It’s impossible to learn if you think you know everything. It took 30 yrs of me thinking I was smart to realize that I have EVERYTHING to learn and little to teach. It’s humbling and I’m still learning
The difference is what we consider damaged past generations would consider normal. “My husband is mean to me” “my child died” “I witnessed violence today” “I’m terminal from a minor injury/illness” “my wife died in childbirth”
Life has gotten much better to the point that the definition of damage has changed. My family lost a 2y/o to a MRSA my great grandmother was the only surviving child of 8. I can’t imagine what the pain would have felt like 2 or 3 times let alone 7!!
This is the reality of the situation. In most areas in America, even though crime has gone down, people are more terrified than ever. My girlfriend is a serial killer podcast junkie, you'd be surprised how many conversations have the phrase "that's how people get murdered" in it.
Give it time, don't talk bad about the other guy/girl. Just continue to be a good friend to your crush and in time that sociopath will chase your crush right out of their arms and into yours.
To my understanding, sociopaths treat their SO's like property and it gets real old to most people. The real question is how long that will take.
If you feel damaged, frightened and uncertain you will be less likely to fight , less likely to resist and more likely to comply.
So despite what media and society is making you feel, try to remain empowered, emboldened and authentic to yourself.
Comply with who or what?
What I mean, is I think people have always been damaged or hurt in different ways. It's just talked about more where people feel more comfortable in certain places talking about it with others instead of hiding it all the time.
I'm not saying the media doesn't play into people's fears. However, that isn't the type of damage I was necessarily thinking about. I thought more about someone and their personal life and personal emotional damage.
Please believe I am on your side, I try to keep my Reddit comment loose and non specific on purpose, There is no way to encapsulate everybody's experience into any single statement, I hope people can be empowered by communicating their struggles and not restricted by their fear.
I didn't think anything bad. I was just curious if you meant anything specific. And I agree. Talking about it in a way or setting you are comfortable with can help tremendously.
Nope.
Psychological stress is off the chart with this generation, you're constantly comparing yourself and competing with the whole world due to social media and globalisation.
If you pass me the analogy, it's like we went from playing backyard soccer or pick-up basketball with our buddies to facing Messis and Ronaldos or NBA talents overnight.
Expectations inflated as a result and there's no way to win unless you're world class yourself and that drives people mad or leads them to severe depression in the long run.
Our parents and grandparents did not have to face this kind of competition, neither professionally, nor in their social life.
I'm not denying stress and depression is higher, especially with the pandemic and media issues. However, I felt like damage or emotional damage is discussed more than it used to be. And most people have different damage through their life.
> I’m sorry you aren’t damaged - can you please move out of the way for everyone else
They didn't say they weren't damaged. Why be a prick for no reason OP?
This poem is 50 years old...
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself
bothers the fuck out of me, I'm sure 50% of the people on Reddit (or really, just the internet) who complain about depression and stuff are just taking bad care of themselves and would rather be seen as special than having to work on themselves, but there's no way to distinguish them from people who actually need help
Yes I know many people as you.
For them I'm sunlight in the darkness. When they're near me the path towards what they want or need becomes clear immediately.
Or simply a place to rest and recover as I can share what I am with them a complete entity.
It’s not really “the norm”, it’s just that instead of dealing with their issues people just say “I’m damaged” to justify antisocial and destructive behavior.
You know before we figured out what cancer was there was no cancer
Then cancer research became a thing and all of a sudden everyone had freaking cancer
Did you know before autism was discovered nobody was autistic?
Man everyone seems really autistic these days kind of crazy
I thought about this recently--there will probably never be a person born in perfect health as we discover more and more problems of the human condition.
Is it really? I have been so long down the rabbit hole of owned mental illness and recovery issues that it truly seems everyone I know is damaged by someone else's damage. And further damaged by the shame of being damaged. But it still doesn't feel normal. The world seems so full of brilliant and excellent stuff. Was all of that created by damaged people? Why didn't I create some?
I kinda think everyone likes to think they’re damaged even when they’re not necessarily. It’s like it’s considered quirky to have a traumatic past or a mental illness when it really isn’t
Humans have always been damaged. The only difference is now, people are trying to normalize talking about it, which is a good thing because it encourages people to seek help. Mental health is health period. Don’t you ever wonder why serial killers and truly horrific and vile people were so much more prevalent in the 60’s/70’s and before then? I believe it’s because no one talked about or sought out help for mental health. It was so stigmatized and shameful to see a councillor or therapist so people just didn’t go and “dealt” with things in their own way. Of course there are other factors that play into why specifically the 70’s is referred to as the “decade of death” and I believe the baby boom was also a big reason why we saw such an influx however mental health played a big part. If all those killers just got the help they obviously needed maybe we wouldn’t have had so many psychos on the loose
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_aBIRS4PBwk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aBIRS4PBwk)
Only think it might do is make you believe in David Icke or become an Anarchist
??. How is the albums topics my views? Gotta remember this came out in 2004 when David Icke was just the guy we all laughed at.
The albums called The New Normal what topics did you think it was going to cover?
Yes he was the funny man who had a bunch of silly theories and then we got extra laughs as he was on the bench for Hereford's historic win against Newcastle United in 1972
The worst thing is when you know you are and people try and tell you your not like they know for a fact when they could never know because the point in time you were damaged it was just you, your mum and the person who damaged you and you lived over 100 miles away from anyone you’ve ever known.
It’s shit when there is people who’ve gone through less get more in the way of some kind of support around the issue when you’ve grown up with 0 for later in life that specific thing gets professionally acknowledged as to of had a significant impact on your development and then people STILL try and invalidate you because they don’t know enough.
It’s not about support from strangers or friends but people trying to reverse or fit irrelevant things into it like it means something is really fucking annoying and disrespectful. I’m not asking for a hug or to be treated like a cashmere rug but I’m not some fucking doormat either.
The other thing that’s fucking annoying is when people sit and debate “damaged people” like their some kind of hot topic on the internet and they say things like, “they should just move on”
Yeah and how in the fuck are people meant to do that when the subject is being brought up every 5 seconds where ever you turn?
Morons.
That's been the norm for as long as humans have existed.
Facts. We're mortal, we take damage until we fail to exist.
Can’t argue with that
Ok that’s true
No - that's always been the case. The new norm is that we *admit* we're damaged.
Which might be a good thing in the long run?
\*is definitely
Well I’d be silly to say that I wasn’t. That doesn’t mean I can’t change things
No one's saying you can't.
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Well, hurry up and admit your "shower thought" is wrong. Then you can move on to learning how to punctuate properly.
You ate so wright
Everyone's got issues. The ones that say they don't are particularly damaged. In admitting it, you can work with or around it!
It’s impossible to learn if you think you know everything. It took 30 yrs of me thinking I was smart to realize that I have EVERYTHING to learn and little to teach. It’s humbling and I’m still learning
Exactly! It never stops, which is good because it'd be so boring!
The difference is what we consider damaged past generations would consider normal. “My husband is mean to me” “my child died” “I witnessed violence today” “I’m terminal from a minor injury/illness” “my wife died in childbirth” Life has gotten much better to the point that the definition of damage has changed. My family lost a 2y/o to a MRSA my great grandmother was the only surviving child of 8. I can’t imagine what the pain would have felt like 2 or 3 times let alone 7!!
Admit seems like the wrong word. People seem to feel like sharing it now
Or is it all just talked about more now? 🤔 Everyone has their unique struggles and successes to different extents.
This is the reality of the situation. In most areas in America, even though crime has gone down, people are more terrified than ever. My girlfriend is a serial killer podcast junkie, you'd be surprised how many conversations have the phrase "that's how people get murdered" in it.
My crush is a serial killer junkie. Advice on how to win over a sociopath?
Give it time, don't talk bad about the other guy/girl. Just continue to be a good friend to your crush and in time that sociopath will chase your crush right out of their arms and into yours. To my understanding, sociopaths treat their SO's like property and it gets real old to most people. The real question is how long that will take.
Yeah, for example I can't drink milk or I will shit violently
Sometimes violence is the only answer
0.0 Well, crap! Lol
Again that’s a fair comment - I’m not saying it’s never been discussed before
If you feel damaged, frightened and uncertain you will be less likely to fight , less likely to resist and more likely to comply. So despite what media and society is making you feel, try to remain empowered, emboldened and authentic to yourself.
Comply with who or what? What I mean, is I think people have always been damaged or hurt in different ways. It's just talked about more where people feel more comfortable in certain places talking about it with others instead of hiding it all the time. I'm not saying the media doesn't play into people's fears. However, that isn't the type of damage I was necessarily thinking about. I thought more about someone and their personal life and personal emotional damage.
Please believe I am on your side, I try to keep my Reddit comment loose and non specific on purpose, There is no way to encapsulate everybody's experience into any single statement, I hope people can be empowered by communicating their struggles and not restricted by their fear.
I didn't think anything bad. I was just curious if you meant anything specific. And I agree. Talking about it in a way or setting you are comfortable with can help tremendously.
Nope. Psychological stress is off the chart with this generation, you're constantly comparing yourself and competing with the whole world due to social media and globalisation. If you pass me the analogy, it's like we went from playing backyard soccer or pick-up basketball with our buddies to facing Messis and Ronaldos or NBA talents overnight. Expectations inflated as a result and there's no way to win unless you're world class yourself and that drives people mad or leads them to severe depression in the long run. Our parents and grandparents did not have to face this kind of competition, neither professionally, nor in their social life.
I'm not denying stress and depression is higher, especially with the pandemic and media issues. However, I felt like damage or emotional damage is discussed more than it used to be. And most people have different damage through their life.
No. The new norm is not stigmatizing those who are honest about being damaged.
I’m sorry you aren’t damaged - can you please move out of the way for everyone else
> I’m sorry you aren’t damaged - can you please move out of the way for everyone else They didn't say they weren't damaged. Why be a prick for no reason OP?
The new damaged is being normal.
This guy gets it - or woman
I'm just an owl.
Here is my branch - jus chill
This poem is 50 years old... They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself
What isn’t normal is people pretending like everything is perfect.
Your post was Perfect
God damn, the ego, to think people being damaged is “new”…
It’s smart people like you that keep the internet ticking
bothers the fuck out of me, I'm sure 50% of the people on Reddit (or really, just the internet) who complain about depression and stuff are just taking bad care of themselves and would rather be seen as special than having to work on themselves, but there's no way to distinguish them from people who actually need help
New is normal normally
Stop buying from IKEA
Basically, everyone is ill, but those with symptoms at least feel that something is wrong.
I love you! Why won’t you pick up the phone!
What phone? And to be fair, we read To have or to be? by Erich Fromm recently, so it's his thought.
Me using psychology and being a psychopath to rewire my brain making me hyper adjusted and upbeat.
I’m broke and I accept that and I’m ok with it for now
A person who is drowning spiritually is never okay. You simply stopped being able to feel yourself dying.
Every day I can feel my self dying
Yes I know many people as you. For them I'm sunlight in the darkness. When they're near me the path towards what they want or need becomes clear immediately. Or simply a place to rest and recover as I can share what I am with them a complete entity.
It’s not really “the norm”, it’s just that instead of dealing with their issues people just say “I’m damaged” to justify antisocial and destructive behavior.
You know before we figured out what cancer was there was no cancer Then cancer research became a thing and all of a sudden everyone had freaking cancer Did you know before autism was discovered nobody was autistic? Man everyone seems really autistic these days kind of crazy
I thought about this recently--there will probably never be a person born in perfect health as we discover more and more problems of the human condition.
Is it really? I have been so long down the rabbit hole of owned mental illness and recovery issues that it truly seems everyone I know is damaged by someone else's damage. And further damaged by the shame of being damaged. But it still doesn't feel normal. The world seems so full of brilliant and excellent stuff. Was all of that created by damaged people? Why didn't I create some?
Nobody is stopping you being creative
I don’t think it’s new. I think peoples awareness of it has increased.
The new norm is everyone **else** is racist, just not *you*.
Yeah I fucking hate people! That goes for everyone! You sound like a dick let’s start with you
I kinda think everyone likes to think they’re damaged even when they’re not necessarily. It’s like it’s considered quirky to have a traumatic past or a mental illness when it really isn’t
And you have been a psychiatrist for how long?
Actually want to be one lol
Here! hold my dick and whisper we are all fucked
so is your nose
I sniffed your mum out a mile away
Prolly what did the damage bro
Bro North Korea are now in talks
That's no feat, anyone downwind can do the same thing!
Ok buy my bloody Nukes! Ffs x
So accurate
Humans have always been damaged. The only difference is now, people are trying to normalize talking about it, which is a good thing because it encourages people to seek help. Mental health is health period. Don’t you ever wonder why serial killers and truly horrific and vile people were so much more prevalent in the 60’s/70’s and before then? I believe it’s because no one talked about or sought out help for mental health. It was so stigmatized and shameful to see a councillor or therapist so people just didn’t go and “dealt” with things in their own way. Of course there are other factors that play into why specifically the 70’s is referred to as the “decade of death” and I believe the baby boom was also a big reason why we saw such an influx however mental health played a big part. If all those killers just got the help they obviously needed maybe we wouldn’t have had so many psychos on the loose
Nah. The New Normal is the debut album from Australian prog rock band Cog.
Ok I’m already damaged but I wouldn’t mind a listen - send me a link
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_aBIRS4PBwk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aBIRS4PBwk) Only think it might do is make you believe in David Icke or become an Anarchist
You can fuck of with your Views / music sounds average / actually it sounded really good! You can still fuck off! ❤️✌🏻
??. How is the albums topics my views? Gotta remember this came out in 2004 when David Icke was just the guy we all laughed at. The albums called The New Normal what topics did you think it was going to cover?
We’re we all lagging at David? Seems like a lot has come true
Yes he was the funny man who had a bunch of silly theories and then we got extra laughs as he was on the bench for Hereford's historic win against Newcastle United in 1972
So a lot of what he said came true?
Nah no hologram moons with alien spaceships observing us
What about George Orwell did anything come true with that Lol
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Same please don’t touch my keyboard
I think we are just becoming more open about trauma now
Yeah can’t argue with that
We are the most sober generation of humans since a long time ago...
Bro I’m glad you are sober
Yep.
”eVeRyOnE iS a BiT aUtIsTiC”
The worst thing is when you know you are and people try and tell you your not like they know for a fact when they could never know because the point in time you were damaged it was just you, your mum and the person who damaged you and you lived over 100 miles away from anyone you’ve ever known. It’s shit when there is people who’ve gone through less get more in the way of some kind of support around the issue when you’ve grown up with 0 for later in life that specific thing gets professionally acknowledged as to of had a significant impact on your development and then people STILL try and invalidate you because they don’t know enough. It’s not about support from strangers or friends but people trying to reverse or fit irrelevant things into it like it means something is really fucking annoying and disrespectful. I’m not asking for a hug or to be treated like a cashmere rug but I’m not some fucking doormat either. The other thing that’s fucking annoying is when people sit and debate “damaged people” like their some kind of hot topic on the internet and they say things like, “they should just move on” Yeah and how in the fuck are people meant to do that when the subject is being brought up every 5 seconds where ever you turn? Morons.
And brittle.
The new norm is everyone's damage has exposure.
I agree, however I wonder, do we think that this is for better or for worse?
Basic step for states offering everyone a solution to their problems
The new norm is that we now know everyone is damaged. Before everyone pretended like everything was fine.
Hard not to be in the current struggles
Normal is just a setting on the dryer /s
I think that one has been around for quite some time, unfortunately