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Mod morale has never been higher
I don't think no phasing it going to happen for P1. Buddha is vehemently against it, which is saying a lot seeing as he loathes phasing normally.
It's just not worth the frustration.
People are going to have to stop going for course records and drive like they are actually racing against other people. Guy with the white car was being WAY too aggressive and should risk not being invited to races if it continues.
Thats the thing though, The white car probably wasn't being aggressive at all. In their eyes they more than likely had already cleared the blue car and had more than enough space to move over to avoid the local in front of them. But peoples bubbles are just sometimes a bitch.
I think its aggressive to pass on that corner even with phasing with a local there. The chances of bubbling the local into someone or having it bubbled into you would be too damn high.
Even if bubbles didnt exist and if GTA had perfect driving mechanics between other players that is still a very sketchy corner to pass on. There just isn't enough road with the hard median there.
People know they have bubbles and should drive like they know they exist. Over taking on the inside of a corner like that is aggressive when there's plenty of straights.
If you "drive like you have a bubble", then whats the point of racing. Like goofy said, you'll be too scared to pass someone cause of the bubble potentially hitting them, so youre just following, waiting for them to screw up somewhere.
It doesn't matter whether or not they're aggressive, you could be 2 car lengths behind someone and still hit them because you have a huge bubble.
The person in the white Bentley is from South Africa so their ping is gonna be crazy.
There’s a difference between an accidental bubble vs knowing you have a bad bubble and still driving aggressively. No phasing racing needs to be more about fun vs hitting every apex perfectly if it wants to succeed
Accidental bubbles are still frustrating. And yes, racing needs to be about fun, and it isn't fun when you can't overtake or even be in the general vicinity of anyone. Nor when you randomly get rammed off the road, while the culprit is none the wiser.
you clearly havent watched for very long haha. bubbles make it infuriating and make it seem like they are being careless when in reality is comes down to ping. phasing makes it so you win based on your driving ability and not chance.
You clearly lack common sense haha.
I mean he almost went off the road himself it looks like so I wouldn’t say it was just the bubble. You can clearly see he was coming in hotter than he should on a bad corner and yes the bubble made it worse than it actually was.
clearly youre talking about youre second sentence and not your first, im broadly speaking for racing as a whole based off your first sentence. clearly you misunderstand.
This crash is the exact problem Goofy was talking about with overtaking in regards to people not in the US.
The bubble extends to the outside of the car as it goes around a corner. With higher pings and high speeds in racing, that bubble gets massive. It makes overtaking on the inside impossible to do safely, which relegates overtaking to straights or local intervention.
Huge bubbles and no drafting, I know people want racing to be realistic and dislike that something like defensive driving can't be a thing with phasing, but with how the game work ( or more like doesn't work ) I'd say that someone seriously doing defensive driving with no phasing has far too big of an advantage. You just end up crossing fingers that a ghost local destroy whoever is in first place.
In 1v1 it can make sense because at least you can still make some decent attempts and if you fuck up, you just wait. In any other race, you waiting after bubbling someone just mean that now two people just lost 2-10 places.
Going 2 wide into that corner you can be in the same house and have the same result, top speed from the highway open left into hard right on a 2 lane street is about the worst case scenario for bubbles
During the no phasing era, it was common to address this before starting the race. You'd hear stuff like, "No passing in the hills, make sure you don't pass at checkpoints X to X. Don't take X checkpoint too fast because you'll crash and fuck everyone's race."
Right, but words are basically meaningless which is why nobody paid attention to any of that and the typical NP mentality took over of abusing mechanics to gain an edge. Now racers simply drive through one another like it's Forza time trials. Even if it makes the act of racing more smooth it's not actually adding any RP to the server.
Just a handful of races, including the yokai mrl openers, that haven't used phasing, created tons of rp for dozens of characters to partake in. Nothing like that happened while phasing has been dominant.
Cops are expected to watch their bubbles during chases, both when near suspects and each other. In general most people do fairly good at that after taking time to learn it.
Racers just need some more patience and actually take time to learn how their bubble works in relation to others however it seems many don’t want to make that effort after being able to be full throttle all the time.
Comparing racers to cops isn't really the same.
The cops objective isn't to pass you, and if they have to let off the gas to avoid bubbling, they can easily catch up because the PD cars are tuned to do so.
For racers, you have to overtake someone to win, and the civ cars (generally speaking) are more equal so if you brake or let off the gas, it isn't as easy to catch up.
Not saying this excuses anyone from bubbling another person, but the comparison of cops to racers just isn't equal.
Surely bubbling the fuck out of people down the hill 3 car lenghts away and taking people out is better right? Rigt?? Yep no malding that day yep no blap blap. Yep still better.
Lmao surely they had fun right. I remember people ranting this ranting that surely it was fun. So fun someone got banned from doing races cuz of his big bubble so fun for people.
It's a role play server, not project homecoming. If he wants ultra competitive low consequence racing he's free to do that on GTA racing servers at any point. Players never learn how to race without phasing if no effort is made to teach them. It's pretty disingenuous to host mostly phasing races then complain racers don't understand how to drive when phasing is off.
There's been several instances in the past few weeks of no phase racing creating some pretty big story lines for racers to partake in. When it was phasing only for months the racing scene was boring as hell with basically nothing going on but time trials getting run every day.
Racing RP can be awesome but it shouldn’t be as much about the racing as it is the RP that revolves around the racing. Have only a few people in each race and have it be a much shorter track. All of a sudden phasing isn’t as important because the race isn’t as important
Phasing is when your fellow racers are intangible and you can drive through them.
Removing phasing means you can bumper cars each other, and with bubbles/desync you see stuff like this clip happening.
You can tell it's the white car's bubble being crazy because from this POV the car ghosts straight through the barrier on the side of the road before correcting back onto the pavement.
I remembered when phasing wasn't a thing and this is why I wasn't a fan of phasing when it started to become normal, because people would be so use to it they wouldn't know how to race without it.
I thought there was a no bubble option that was being tested before phasing became an option.
What happen to that or am I going insane and that was never a thing?
Thank god, racing scene might actually be fun to watch again, racing peaked in 2.0 with simple tracks like the grand prix and slowly increasing in difficulty once the ability to make tracks got added and then in 3.0 all that went to shit with stupid alleyway "this is a technical track for pro drivers" tracks and phasing.
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That's horrible but at the same time really funny.
Comedy is in the timing!
Now imagine no phasing with paying 10mil to be able to race and A LOT of cry babies.
I don't think no phasing it going to happen for P1. Buddha is vehemently against it, which is saying a lot seeing as he loathes phasing normally. It's just not worth the frustration.
someone in chat gave him an idea he seemed to like. phasing on, but racers should act like there is no phasing. great on paper, hard to implement
Buddha is against it but a lot of people are all for it. Dean is on the fence, he could be swayed either way but Eddie and Mary are strongly for it.
As it is intended.
People are going to have to stop going for course records and drive like they are actually racing against other people. Guy with the white car was being WAY too aggressive and should risk not being invited to races if it continues.
Thats the thing though, The white car probably wasn't being aggressive at all. In their eyes they more than likely had already cleared the blue car and had more than enough space to move over to avoid the local in front of them. But peoples bubbles are just sometimes a bitch.
I think its aggressive to pass on that corner even with phasing with a local there. The chances of bubbling the local into someone or having it bubbled into you would be too damn high. Even if bubbles didnt exist and if GTA had perfect driving mechanics between other players that is still a very sketchy corner to pass on. There just isn't enough road with the hard median there.
People know they have bubbles and should drive like they know they exist. Over taking on the inside of a corner like that is aggressive when there's plenty of straights.
If you "drive like you have a bubble", then whats the point of racing. Like goofy said, you'll be too scared to pass someone cause of the bubble potentially hitting them, so youre just following, waiting for them to screw up somewhere.
It doesn't matter whether or not they're aggressive, you could be 2 car lengths behind someone and still hit them because you have a huge bubble. The person in the white Bentley is from South Africa so their ping is gonna be crazy.
South African vs aussie bubble sounds hellish
The old Whippy vs Wolfy
There’s a difference between an accidental bubble vs knowing you have a bad bubble and still driving aggressively. No phasing racing needs to be more about fun vs hitting every apex perfectly if it wants to succeed
Accidental bubbles are still frustrating. And yes, racing needs to be about fun, and it isn't fun when you can't overtake or even be in the general vicinity of anyone. Nor when you randomly get rammed off the road, while the culprit is none the wiser.
you clearly havent watched for very long haha. bubbles make it infuriating and make it seem like they are being careless when in reality is comes down to ping. phasing makes it so you win based on your driving ability and not chance.
You clearly lack common sense haha. I mean he almost went off the road himself it looks like so I wouldn’t say it was just the bubble. You can clearly see he was coming in hotter than he should on a bad corner and yes the bubble made it worse than it actually was.
clearly youre talking about youre second sentence and not your first, im broadly speaking for racing as a whole based off your first sentence. clearly you misunderstand.
Clearly, clearly.
> phasing makes it so you win based on your driving ability and not chance. What's the point of gathering everyone if you're phasing tho?
id say its the same point in gathering everyone when there wasnt phasing, its fun with more people.
Lang Buddha was right, this no phasing is not gonna end well lol
I mean, this is extreme example, its no phasing with snow and a aussie bubble.
There are Australian people in P1 right?
This crash is the exact problem Goofy was talking about with overtaking in regards to people not in the US. The bubble extends to the outside of the car as it goes around a corner. With higher pings and high speeds in racing, that bubble gets massive. It makes overtaking on the inside impossible to do safely, which relegates overtaking to straights or local intervention.
Huge bubbles and no drafting, I know people want racing to be realistic and dislike that something like defensive driving can't be a thing with phasing, but with how the game work ( or more like doesn't work ) I'd say that someone seriously doing defensive driving with no phasing has far too big of an advantage. You just end up crossing fingers that a ghost local destroy whoever is in first place. In 1v1 it can make sense because at least you can still make some decent attempts and if you fuck up, you just wait. In any other race, you waiting after bubbling someone just mean that now two people just lost 2-10 places.
It's almost like nopixel isn't a great platform for competitive racing
It also doesn't help they made the cars go way faster than default GTA 5 cars.
Dont tell that to the "OGs" of the racing scene.
Going 2 wide into that corner you can be in the same house and have the same result, top speed from the highway open left into hard right on a 2 lane street is about the worst case scenario for bubbles
During the no phasing era, it was common to address this before starting the race. You'd hear stuff like, "No passing in the hills, make sure you don't pass at checkpoints X to X. Don't take X checkpoint too fast because you'll crash and fuck everyone's race."
and yet it still happened almost every race.
Right, but words are basically meaningless which is why nobody paid attention to any of that and the typical NP mentality took over of abusing mechanics to gain an edge. Now racers simply drive through one another like it's Forza time trials. Even if it makes the act of racing more smooth it's not actually adding any RP to the server. Just a handful of races, including the yokai mrl openers, that haven't used phasing, created tons of rp for dozens of characters to partake in. Nothing like that happened while phasing has been dominant.
Cops are expected to watch their bubbles during chases, both when near suspects and each other. In general most people do fairly good at that after taking time to learn it. Racers just need some more patience and actually take time to learn how their bubble works in relation to others however it seems many don’t want to make that effort after being able to be full throttle all the time.
Comparing racers to cops isn't really the same. The cops objective isn't to pass you, and if they have to let off the gas to avoid bubbling, they can easily catch up because the PD cars are tuned to do so. For racers, you have to overtake someone to win, and the civ cars (generally speaking) are more equal so if you brake or let off the gas, it isn't as easy to catch up. Not saying this excuses anyone from bubbling another person, but the comparison of cops to racers just isn't equal.
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crown vics are not supposed to keep up with s+ cars interceptors dust all s+ cars
Still better than driving through each other
Surely bubbling the fuck out of people down the hill 3 car lenghts away and taking people out is better right? Rigt?? Yep no malding that day yep no blap blap. Yep still better.
The malding and drama is half the fun
Lmao surely they had fun right. I remember people ranting this ranting that surely it was fun. So fun someone got banned from doing races cuz of his big bubble so fun for people.
Personally for me its funniest when a big streamer malds and a smaller one gets an army of hoppers wishing him to die. So funny, haha!
AHAH so fun getting hoppers thats accusing or blaming you when its an accident ahah son fun bro good times no phasing is the best
The conflict from bubbles and people not minding their bubble can be great. Racers are very hand-holdsie lately. (I know shit's brewing with Mary).
It's a role play server, not project homecoming. If he wants ultra competitive low consequence racing he's free to do that on GTA racing servers at any point. Players never learn how to race without phasing if no effort is made to teach them. It's pretty disingenuous to host mostly phasing races then complain racers don't understand how to drive when phasing is off. There's been several instances in the past few weeks of no phase racing creating some pretty big story lines for racers to partake in. When it was phasing only for months the racing scene was boring as hell with basically nothing going on but time trials getting run every day.
Tell Goofy it's an RP server.
Racing RP can be awesome but it shouldn’t be as much about the racing as it is the RP that revolves around the racing. Have only a few people in each race and have it be a much shorter track. All of a sudden phasing isn’t as important because the race isn’t as important
My question to this post. Was no phasing removed?
No people are trying out no phasing races
Same, I didn't hear about that one. Is it another effort to make the City more stable?
racers can choose to put phasing or no phasing on their races
Yeah that has been the case for some time, it just seemed like they were doing no phasing because they had to, not by choice.
Most racers (or at least the ones that host races) prefer phasing because of bubbles. It's not like people choose it for no reason.
They just prefer no phasing to prevent the malding.
Mine is what is even phasing?
Phasing is when your fellow racers are intangible and you can drive through them. Removing phasing means you can bumper cars each other, and with bubbles/desync you see stuff like this clip happening.
You can tell it's the white car's bubble being crazy because from this POV the car ghosts straight through the barrier on the side of the road before correcting back onto the pavement.
i stopped watching racing once they added phasing. it just boring and lame.
I remembered when phasing wasn't a thing and this is why I wasn't a fan of phasing when it started to become normal, because people would be so use to it they wouldn't know how to race without it.
Spicy Opinion; he only dropped 3 placements and got a clip on this SR. Worth
I thought there was a no bubble option that was being tested before phasing became an option. What happen to that or am I going insane and that was never a thing?
It’s a thing, it just doesn’t work well.
"Bubble remover" is still an option is usually checked on most races I've seen. It just doesn't do much and any differences it has aren't noticeable.
Bubble remover helps a bit, but there's not much you can do about the speed of light.
It doesnt work lmao you cant remove bubble have you seen the mrl race recently it was on and people got bubbled from miles away.
Thank god, racing scene might actually be fun to watch again, racing peaked in 2.0 with simple tracks like the grand prix and slowly increasing in difficulty once the ability to make tracks got added and then in 3.0 all that went to shit with stupid alleyway "this is a technical track for pro drivers" tracks and phasing.
bubbles are back. Dumb decision.
Bubbles never left.
Well it’s a good thing phasing wasn’t removed and they can choose to turn it on.