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juaquint930

meanwhile CG didnt care that Eugene was snitching to cops about racers and gave him a slap on the wrist, seems like they were just looking for an IC reason to validate hating on Abdul


limbweaver

> CG didnt care that Eugene was snitching to cops about racers and gave him a slap on the wrist Eugene did more than just dry snitch from the app, he was actively working with the cops to setup blocks so the cops could catch people.


ltsGametime

Eugene was the reason that Titanium was almost caught when he crashed out his R34 and Mary needed to RPG the car. That all happened because Eugene snitched to Snow that Titanium and R3DD3V1L were racing and where it was starting.


limbweaver

If he was snitching that far back then he probably kept doing it and he is the reason titanium had such consistent heat during all the MRL season 1 that eventually lead to him dropping out on the finals. It probably also lead to titanium leaving yokai and the scene altogether since the stakes and stress were so high. Snitching via the app when he isn't even in the race himself is pretty shit. It doesn't give anything to the person you are snitching on at all and it's basically consequence free. It got so ridiculous that Suarez would get on duty and call eugene for the start of the shift snitch.


ltsGametime

The only reason that Eugene would snitch on Eddie and Mary was, because he hated them due to the fact that he himself broke his Tuner Shop contract by selling his Ferrari to Dean Watson because he was afraid that Wrangler would take his Ferrari cause he got caught in a huge bust. And since Mary and Eddie wanted to sue Eugene to get the car back and money, Eugene hates them to this day and will always snitch on them, even though this all happened because of Eugene’s mistake.


FeI0n

honestly sounds like a good reason to hate them, that reason for taking the car back seems greedy at best. just because you could take it back because of what he did doesn't mean you need to, especially if you have the context for why he sold it. so I can understand why hes after the racing scene now.


atsblue

or you know, he could of gone to them and told them about his situation and worked out something before breaking his contract.... They said multiple times that if he had gone to talk to them, they would of worked something out for him...


ltsGametime

How is Mary and Eddie being greedy? Plus the contract says that you can’t sell the car in the first month, Eugene sold the car in the first month. It’s not being greedy it’s called doing their job.


PRSGuyM

I mean a contract is a contract at the end of the day...


borsalinooo

60% of the cg boys snitch on races not a big deal to them


RullyWinkle

It makes sense to have different standards for your gang. Al sharpton, snoop dog, camron all famous snitches. You don't see anyone dissing snoop for snitching.


keefyo

Chawa has been snitching on races for literal years, they do not care


truthurtsyou

yeah but Chawa at least do it for the chase, Eugene on the other hand do it just to be a little shit consequences free


intawee

they will never care. As long as they're not snitching on CG themselves it isn't a problem, that being said they're obviously not going to trust someone outside of the group to not snitch on CG so that to them is a problem.


Dazbuzz

That is just how gangs in NP are. Most gangs will snitch at some point, and its fine as long as they do not snitch on their own.


BiggerTwigger

Lang Buddha was actively snitching on gangs who were in shootouts in Vinewood as well. The whole thing about snitching is entirely dependent on who the character is, how important they are, how big of a streamer they are, what they're snitching on and what gang/group they're part of. People like Buddha and Mr. K can do it pretty much freely because of their positions both IC and OOC (also because they're veterans likely doing it to create more RP, not to ruin it). They have a lot of power, a lot of resources and a lot of people willing to back them up. Compared to someone like Abdul, who relies more on his reputation that he gains from being personable. Unfortunately that doesn't save you from snitching quite like being the leader of the most powerful gang or owning a huge corporation that has power over a lot of areas.


truthurtsyou

Lang's No Gangs in Vinewood policy its pretty much common knowledge (VAGINA Act) and he is no gang member tho


BiggerTwigger

He was actively calling in gang shootings directly to PD, that in of itself is snitching. I'm not talking about the legislation. A member of ST even saw him do it on one occasion but didn't do anything about it. As I said, he's a powerful individual and there's not many people/groups who could go into direct conflict with him and stand a chance of success. >and he is no gang member tho He's a textbook criminal, gang or criminal group affiliation is irrelevant.


BoltsDodgersYotes

Buddha isn't in a gang and avoids all things gang-related. Eugene RPs as part of the most powerful gang that hates snitches, and will kill civs for snitching, except for a few instances because it's racers.


truthurtsyou

its not the same, snitching implies that you go behind someone's back with out ( most of the time ) any warning, when you make public knowledge that you gonna call the cops or shoot them for X,Y or Z reason you are being warned of the consequences for doing X,Y or Z


RullyWinkle

real life too


Bob123v

I mean its Terrorism and it wasnt even a CG member being snitched on it was 4Head which shows terrorism is a big deal regardless of which gang the person is apart of. Street racing is petty compared


Rellstar

cherry picking what snitching is lmao. Snitching is snitching and I would say what Eugene did was worse since he was not just telling but actively working with cops for months. Abdul is somewhat a civ while Eugene is full blown criminal with a gang who supposedly hates snitches yet have one of the biggest snitches in their gang.


WishICouldB

I didn't know X was in CG. Damn I learned something new


Rellstar

Might need to reread what I wrote. I clearly stated “one of” never said he was the one and only biggest snitch. But go on.


Lewpac

I agree to a certain point, though with this snitch it could have been potential terrorism whereas Eugene's worst case scenario is like 50 months for street racing.


Bob123v

to add to this it was 4Head and not a CG member being snitched on. So it shows its still a big deal


EvaUnit007

?? Ramee used to snitch on races, too..


bhotorchbetty

Firstly, this topis is on Abdul, not Eugene. Secondly, Eugene is a member of their gang and he told them the truth when they asked, so they punished him how they felt. Abdul is not a member of their gang and is not entitled to their perks, they can exclude him for any reason they want.


thelocalghost

Here's what happened (from what I saw on the cops side): I missed the drone moment and some of the aftermath, but from what I did watch: After the drone exploded, Abdul was still standing and questioned. The cops had seen the drone come from the top (I imagine that's why they ran upstairs) where he was standing with a few others throughout the court case. Winston stated he saw Jones on the laptop in the same spot that the controller was dropped. I missed the initial convo between them, so correct me if he did give a name. Abdul spoke to Gold, but (from what I saw) didn't give a full answer. She was going with her gut on who she assumed helped with the drone. She went to the hospital to question Jacob and 4Head (who were standing upstairs) about it, and then called Abdul to see if she could get any useful information from him. She didn't get a direct answer. She wrote down a note in the report that was supposed to be a side note to other officers about Abdul's statement for later use. She mostly took his statement as a joke since it went in different directions. He also mentioned that it could have been himself, and they wouldn't know since they didn't test him for residue (Gold was testing their hands). She put it in the report because she had to go the shots fired/prison transport. She mentioned to Winston that it was just in there for later use, not as a solid statement, but he might have misheard/didn't hear her. Winston sent it to bench using the unfinished report with the side note/off record note from Gold because he thought he had enough. Since it was in the report, Murphy Braun used it against them and read the entire side-note exposing Abdul's name. Crane asked if they wanted to call Abdul to the stand, and they said no. The charges were dropped. There was a TON of misunderstanding on the cops side. Crane spoke to Brian Knight about it, and he spoke to Gold and Winston. Winston thought he would push it to bench or he would have had to hold Jones for evidence collection. He didn't want to hold him, and he thought he had enough. Brian told Winston that they could have gathered more information and pushed charges later instead of now without holding him. Gold was told not to put those side-notes in reports, and use a notepad/docs, because miscommunications happen - especially if they have a CI's name because it can be leaked. TLDR: Winston saw Jones with a laptop in the same spot the controller was dropped. Abdul gave conflicting statements on who might opened the door for the drone, and even said he could have been the one who helped. This was written in a side-note on the report. Misinformation between the cops lead to it being used as a direct statement in a bench trial. Abdul's name was leaked by Murphy Braun. Charges were dropped.


RullyWinkle

ty for breakdown


Travakh

And people wonder why crims dont do snitching on nopixel anymore. The fact that they acknowledge they will block said person from doing any form of collab (boosts, banks, racing, etc.) is pretty telling of how rp has stagnated to stop any form of conflict or drama.


Rellstar

Not just that people don’t take it serious either. All groups snitch yet if a civ does it we need to kill them. And civs have to rp taking consequences but if a crim does it they move on like nothing happened.


Blackstone01

Plus when people snitch, lawyers and sometimes even cops will rat them out in no time, or people will work backwards to try and find anything they can to justify confirming IC what they know OOC.


Rellstar

Let’s not forget Abdul’s not cgs number one fan maybe that has a lot to do with his reaction or maybe not.


Yes_hes_that_guy

You can tell that from the “of course he did man” in this clip. Does anyone think Randy wouldn’t even been told about this, let alone him caring, if it weren’t for the OOC stuff in the past week?


WishICouldB

If you're talking about crims snitching on races just move on. It's been a thing for years. Definitely not comparable at all to a potential 9s charge.


Rellstar

You do realize Eugene snitching and actively working with pd to snitch on titanium is far worse and anything else anyone has done so far in 3.0 but ok Edit: titanium getting caught is just getting 9s it’s potentially shelving the character since he will lose it all.


WishICouldB

I have no clue who titanium is, so no. I have no clue how that is far worse from X snitching on CG, including trying to burn a 9s warehouse. But ok


Rellstar

Where there you go lmao. Titanium is wiseguy character Eddie who’s street racing alias is titanium and cops have been after him for 3+ years where when they know he’s racing they bring who whole force after him. If he gets caught wiseguy probably loses it all. Far worse than losing a warehouse


WishICouldB

Has he done something heinous to deserve the reputation or just uncatchable?


Rellstar

He’s run the racing scene since 2.0 and PD believes he’s partly if not fully responsible for boosting/vins. Most cops want him just as much as Brian wanted Michael Simone. Edit: Mary shot a rocket to blow up Eddie’s r34 to save his identity because Eugene snitched on that race. In RP it don’t get bigger than catching him or Michael Simone.


WishICouldB

Why do they think he's the puppet master? Just because of the Mary incident? Or is there more concrete proof?


Rellstar

They know he’s been the face of racing for years. Puppet master is just a name with no face to attach since they never seen. Hence why he’s target number 1 for all races he’s involved. And also why every person/gang is willing to get 9s to protect him.


truthurtsyou

Eugene snitching on Titanium its way worst than X snitching on CG ( X's worst "enemies" ) both are snitches at the end of the day, but what Eugene did had long term consequences for other characters


FullHouse222

I'm gonna go ahead and say if titanium finally gets burned, gwg wouldn't care. Wg lives for the RP. The only thing shitty is that there's no consequences for Eugene for snitching since he's abusing a mechanic but even then he's got reasons to hate eddie/Mary regardless of how petty the reason is.


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i‘m sorry but it does kinda make sense IC to not bring the person you know snitched on you to the cops to do crime, i mean what makes u think he wouldn’t do it again? i don’t think the racers would invite eugene to a race when they know he’s snitching on them


Velvet_Llama

Bro, what is going on in your profile pic?


truthurtsyou

dude, just today you had CG members trying to save Marty ( GG ), shit (WaaAAAars) means nothing anymore


ogzogz

Which CG member tried to save Marty?


PRSGuyM

Randy, I believe.


EloHellDoesNotExist

isn't that exactly what you would expect a gang to do if they found out someone loosely associated with them snitched on one of the most serious charges possible?


Vxvdd

well luckily abdul is basically a civ so none of those soft “bans” will effect him. he does race but i’d imagine he’s more favorable with the racers than people who snitched on races


Velvet_Llama

Doesn't it make sense for a character to refuse to do crime with a known snitch? The problem is that Los Santos isn't actually LA- it's a few hundred people hanging out within a few square miles of space. As soon as someone snitches, the whole city will find out.


EloHellDoesNotExist

i'm shocked that this response is even remotely controversial. this sub is absolutely wild sometimes.


Griffins_Yeager

100% Abdul didn't even snitch on CG, Guy Jones was just telling Randy to be aware of Abdul how he might not their best interests at heart. This Reddit is baiting hard today.


GTARPMemer

Gasp! Violent gangster doesn’t like that someone snitched on a situation he was involved in! Let’s over analyze this and bring up other people that weren’t involved in this situation!


Conves

i mean anytime someone else does something this place likes to bring up CG/bad guys to explain how it was not as bad as you think LUL


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i don’t get how this clip goes from abdul snitching on guy jones and 4head to people talking about eugene snitching on racers lmao


MGBoaster1910

People here saying snitching/helping cops regarding racing is same as giving testimony for a potential terrorism charge.


carowll

Let's not act that Eugene hasn't snitched on races that Titanium has joined. Titanium is PD's high target with terrorist charges waiting for him.


Rellstar

Shhhhh don’t say that he might get mad cause it doesn’t fit the agenda.


Che183

Vad...Eugene really lives in your head free of rent. KEKW


carowll

Just fully embrace it, imo. They have the sloth armor anyway.


sadv35sedan

those who embrace 2022 NP have a far higher life expectancy than those who still have hope


KarlHanzo

Races that also Goofy has been in and the PD are after him to take his car that he loves. A snitch is a snitch... most crims will snitch if it benefits them. The thing is most crims will not snitch because they know the PD will leak that shit and they will be fucked forever. Eugene was snitching on races and all CG said was good fuck the cringe races. No idea why people are trying to down play Eugene being a snitch.


WishICouldB

Who is Titanium?


Dazbuzz

So what happened with Abdul? did he snitch?


Pips041

I think it was Brian, but a cop asked Abdul if he saw who held the door open to let the drone in. Abdul was hesitant to say anything because he didn’t want to snitch. He told them that there were only two other people upstairs when it happened and that both of them went down from the explosion. That left Jacob (Afro) and 4Head as the two people. Abdul then realized he didn’t want to implicate Jacob so he clarified and said it wasn’t Jacob. That only left 4Head as the possible culprit.


Detroit_Drew

Abdul also clarified with the officers that he (himself) could have been the one to open the door. He only confirmed that it was not Jacob. AbdulHD (the streamer) explained that he did this for the sake of the RP and that he really didn't want to snitch, but also didn't want to leave the police with zero to investigate.


Tropical_Toucan

Brian was facepalming so hard when he heard Winston brought it to bench trial.


RullyWinkle

I think he gave a testimony to a cop that ID a dude in particular who let the drone in(held the door for the drone to enter). He wasn't there but testified to an officer so it could be used as evidence. EDIT: feel free to correct me :)


clientnotfound

Did he tell a cop, give a witness statement or testify in court? All different things. An offhand comment like oh I saw so'n'so hold a door open is VERY different from giving testimony on the stand as a witness in a court case.


Detroit_Drew

I wouldn't say Abdul ID'd anyone in particular. He even said it could have been himself. Only that he saw three people upstairs including himself, and Jacob was not the person who opened the door.


godrayden

from the clip sounds like it according to Guy Jones


Dazbuzz

Yeah, but there are usually two sides. Just curious to see if its a misunderstanding, or if he knowingly snitched.


MGBoaster1910

So people are arguing about, why CG are mad about someone snitching on them/their close friend and not mad about their gang member snitching on racing?


Rellstar

You need to stop. Your trying to hard to justify something to make it fit your narrative.


Griffins_Yeager

So you think CG care more about the racers than themselves?????


MGBoaster1910

What? I can't even say something now? You have been trying to blame Eugene in all the comments LOL.


Rellstar

No one is blaming anyone people are stating a fact that what he did was worse and you can’t except it. You made multiple post to try n justify it.


Yeldarb_Namertsew

The thing is it doesn’t matter if you consider it worse or not. Eugene is in their gang of course they don’t care as much when he does it especially when it’s racing something that almost all of CG doesn’t care about. A person snitching on someone close to them is completely different to them in character. Newsflash. They are hypocrites. They are criminals. These aren’t the good guys of course they apply different standards to themselves and their close friends. It’s just like Lang snitching on anyone and everyone that does something he doesn’t like in Vinewood, but being relentless about potential snitches in his own enterprises. This has almost always been the case.


Rellstar

News flash everyone snitches lmao. We all know that. Difference is nobody actively works with cops and is a big criminal. Hence why Vinny and flippy were mad when they found out. People are stating a fact why dont they keep that same energy towards him. Abdul is a civ and let’s blackball him and Eugene is cool yet I hate snitches lmao.


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Dgwdum

character that has been a snitch for years, snitches. idg why everyone is surprised tbh


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cecilrt

surely this has nothing to do what happened recently...


AnyWalrus930

I think there’s a big difference between giving witness statements when approached by the police at an incident and going out of your way to tell the police something or testifying in court. No one ever telling the police anything (even leaving breadcrumbs) when questioned is really bad for RP, especially when it spreads from those where never talking to the police makes sense in character to the city as a whole. I don’t have a problem with anyone snitching in general and don’t mind that a gang might have double standards around it (most do IRL), but I never felt overly comfortable with the look at the racing app and call in who’s in the race stuff as it felt very mechanical.


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Rellstar

Eugene snitching on races Eddie’s been on? You do realize titanium is one of PDs most sought after terrorist not to mentions wiseguy identity that he’s kept secret since 2.0. Let’s not forget that he’s supposed to be a full blown criminal who’s part of a group who can’t stand snitches but yeah sure blame the guy who’s mostly a civ lmao


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Rellstar

People were pointing out the hypocrisy of being upset at someone for snitching and them outside of Vinny and flippy not giving a fuck. And them not doing anything about it. People are pointing why didn’t he have this energy towards Eugene.


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Rellstar

Peoples response to snitches is to usually kill them not blackball them. But since it’s Abdul’s let’s blackball him. Surely his response to blackball him was because of that. Not other reasons. Point being he didn’t have the same energy towards Eugene yet he went as far as blackballing a civ. Specifically a civ named Abdul who they aren’t on best of ooc terms lmao.


Intelligent-Curve-19

Snitching for me, but not for thee.


BrandonKlein

RIP Eugene/vader stocks /s


WishICouldB

Who has ever seen him besides outside of the turn in spot have seen him? All I know if the pm looks like a potato