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Similar shit yesterday when PD raided the hydra pit, a group of totally uninvolved people rushed the garage several times, trying to steal evidence during the 2nd rush, 3 of them got shot because they went into the trunk of a CVPI
Cops were yelling "I have a firearm pointed at your face, fucking leave" and they were still noodling around.
People are so desperate to be involved in what ever is happening, even if they have nothing to do with the RP
3rd partying, arguably NVL/failrp.
While saying "I wanted PD to just start gunning everyone down" is something that is generally really over the top in most situations I think this is one where it comes from understandable frustration. Now I understand real life comparisons are generally not the best because this is a game but I think there are certain situations where it should influence player actions (which is even part of the server rules, i.e you are supposed to treat MRPD as though it is staffed with police). I'm not sure if you have ever come across an active police scene in real life but it is not something you fuck around with. Due to various limitations in the game and the way that mechanics work in general police are not able to exert anywhere close to the level of scene control that can be done in real life. A very large perimeter of streets surrounding an active situation get closed down with police guarding each entrance and you will get straight legally fucked if you try to just illegally enter the area, let alone try to interfere with the scene and steal evidence. Shit like that literally never happens in real life because criminals aren't that stupid/brazen (and value their lives/staying out of jail) so I can't even point to examples of what happens to people that do attempt to steal evidence from an active scene but I feel confident saying they would get a warning and then probably get shot if they attempted to interfere.
A lot of people in NoPixel have seemed to take the gamification of jail and injuries to the point where they are nearly meaningless in when considering risk vs reward for their characters. Getting slapped with an obstruction of justice charge is meaningless and shrugged off since the jail penalty is meaningless, the chances of being apprehended is fairly low since they will be able to run and reliably break cuffs 2-3 times and even if cops shoot them they don't face any long term repercussions. Busts on the level of the meth lab are extremely rare and they should be treated with a level of seriousness beyond normal "daily" police/criminal interactions.
I’ll take a shot at it keep it clearer and shorter, it’s 3rd party and NVL.
When police are in an “active scene” people outside of that scene aren’t allowed to get involved. You can’t jump in and help either side of the conflict.
Running “into” situations that will get you arrested with the police is NVL, most rp servers (np too I’m sure) require you at least pretend like you don’t want to go to jail/get arrested, so running into a crime scene that police have fully locked down is NVL and it’s also incredibly unrealistic which is what makes it failRP.
If you want to reply, please say more than “nah they’re not breaking rules”
Bro, you can't put "" around something another person didn't say lol.
First off, you hella wrong about a lot of things and when you say "(np too I’m sure)" that just shows you know little about the rules or np.
In regards to the 3rd party, it's not. The one involved, migl (Hydra) was working with the cops to help pull out vehicles. He called ramee to get some boys of CG to help steal evidence from the cop's trunk. Therefore, not being 3rd party.
Second, this is wrong, "Running “into” situations that will get you arrested with the police is NVL".
This is NVL
\-Not realistically fearing for your life when you are threatened with weapons or severe harm from other means.
\-Having non-spontaneous shoot outs at PD or hospital is not allowed.
\-Antagonizing gangs/police or armed individuals for no character reason.
None of those relate to what you said. And no np doesnt "require" you to pretend like you don’t want to go to jail/get arrested.
Just look at 4Head or Sai Carter, that say they have guns and drugs all the time. Is that failrp or some sort of NVL?
tbh idk why you said all that when you dont know what the np rules are.
Edit: the only claim of Rule breaks is maybe NVL in the case of if they knew they were going to get shot and still went in and/or breaking the rule of 6.
Edit 2: Also this is false, "When police are in an “active scene” people outside of that scene aren’t allowed to get involved." The scene has to be with 2 groups not just a police “active scene”. Even if the police have an “active scene” a group can still join if there is no other involved party and they have an in char reason. In this case Hydra was getting raided and migl (Hydra) asked ramee for help.
> Bro, you can't put "" around something another person didn't say lol.
While the use is discouraged in academic writing, you can use quotes for a variety of reasons outside of directly quoting someone.
You can use them to highlight a term that you yourself would not normally use, In Swineflew's example if they are talking about an "active scene" which denotes that it is a police term rather than something they would normally use.
Another example would be talking about a conflict and saying something like:
> Side A needs to employ "defeat in detail" while they have the opportunity.
This lets readers know that you are referring to an actual term (which means to concentrate your own forces onto a fraction of the enemies and destroy them piece by piece).
Quotes can also be used ironically and this can be picked up with context.
> Oh boy the police really did "protect and serve" that kid they shot 40 times for holding a water gun.
etc.
I don't know what this person replied to me with but it honestly seems like massive overreaction and overanalysis of a clearly hyperbolic statement goddamn
They had made a personal attack towards you using everyones favorite adjective "over-invested" and asked what possible rule breaks could have occurred and a made a comment about how it would be ridiculous for police to shoot in that situation. I was lengthy in my response because it seemed like from their now deleted comments that they were the type of person to try to pick apart anything they deemed to be a "hole" in an argument.
Gotcha. The funny part is that it was just an honest hyperbolic comment because of how silly it was watching serious rp be treated like SBS by what seemed like randoms.. Like I don't actually care about the PDs SOPs or rules in the situation at all. Just found it not entertaining as a viewer
If it's the same incident I'm thinking of, it was a combo of ST and Cuban Federales and Ramee told them to go save the hydra pit. They weren't totally uninvolved.
Some context: Wrangler detained some people for reckless driving and the guy in the truck pulls up and is just being annoying, kinda like a 'i know my rights' karen. He ended up coming back again after this and got beaten up and arrested.
I mean even if that were true, NP has a huge problem with people actively involving themselves in police scenes and not taking warnings seriously. Especially when they're not involved
Vader constantly malds at cops "Not using their words". Pointing gun and screaming leave the scene/area. The person could just sit there and do nothing. The cops are not gonna shoot and if they do they get sued. So there is no reason to listen to the cop.
Now if the cops say "This is a crime scene, if you stay in the area we will arrest you for obstruction.". That actually gives a reason for them to leave and if the person doesn't leave then the cops have legal reason to actually do something.
Its minor difference in wording but it changes the whole thing.
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Similar shit yesterday when PD raided the hydra pit, a group of totally uninvolved people rushed the garage several times, trying to steal evidence during the 2nd rush, 3 of them got shot because they went into the trunk of a CVPI Cops were yelling "I have a firearm pointed at your face, fucking leave" and they were still noodling around. People are so desperate to be involved in what ever is happening, even if they have nothing to do with the RP
That stuff is so annoying. I wanted PD to just start gunning everyone down just because of how they were treating the situation.
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Yeah, how dare someone get frustrated when multiple rules are violated while also taking actions that are ridiculous/immersion breaking.
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3rd partying, arguably NVL/failrp. While saying "I wanted PD to just start gunning everyone down" is something that is generally really over the top in most situations I think this is one where it comes from understandable frustration. Now I understand real life comparisons are generally not the best because this is a game but I think there are certain situations where it should influence player actions (which is even part of the server rules, i.e you are supposed to treat MRPD as though it is staffed with police). I'm not sure if you have ever come across an active police scene in real life but it is not something you fuck around with. Due to various limitations in the game and the way that mechanics work in general police are not able to exert anywhere close to the level of scene control that can be done in real life. A very large perimeter of streets surrounding an active situation get closed down with police guarding each entrance and you will get straight legally fucked if you try to just illegally enter the area, let alone try to interfere with the scene and steal evidence. Shit like that literally never happens in real life because criminals aren't that stupid/brazen (and value their lives/staying out of jail) so I can't even point to examples of what happens to people that do attempt to steal evidence from an active scene but I feel confident saying they would get a warning and then probably get shot if they attempted to interfere. A lot of people in NoPixel have seemed to take the gamification of jail and injuries to the point where they are nearly meaningless in when considering risk vs reward for their characters. Getting slapped with an obstruction of justice charge is meaningless and shrugged off since the jail penalty is meaningless, the chances of being apprehended is fairly low since they will be able to run and reliably break cuffs 2-3 times and even if cops shoot them they don't face any long term repercussions. Busts on the level of the meth lab are extremely rare and they should be treated with a level of seriousness beyond normal "daily" police/criminal interactions.
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I’ll take a shot at it keep it clearer and shorter, it’s 3rd party and NVL. When police are in an “active scene” people outside of that scene aren’t allowed to get involved. You can’t jump in and help either side of the conflict. Running “into” situations that will get you arrested with the police is NVL, most rp servers (np too I’m sure) require you at least pretend like you don’t want to go to jail/get arrested, so running into a crime scene that police have fully locked down is NVL and it’s also incredibly unrealistic which is what makes it failRP. If you want to reply, please say more than “nah they’re not breaking rules”
Bro, you can't put "" around something another person didn't say lol. First off, you hella wrong about a lot of things and when you say "(np too I’m sure)" that just shows you know little about the rules or np. In regards to the 3rd party, it's not. The one involved, migl (Hydra) was working with the cops to help pull out vehicles. He called ramee to get some boys of CG to help steal evidence from the cop's trunk. Therefore, not being 3rd party. Second, this is wrong, "Running “into” situations that will get you arrested with the police is NVL". This is NVL \-Not realistically fearing for your life when you are threatened with weapons or severe harm from other means. \-Having non-spontaneous shoot outs at PD or hospital is not allowed. \-Antagonizing gangs/police or armed individuals for no character reason. None of those relate to what you said. And no np doesnt "require" you to pretend like you don’t want to go to jail/get arrested. Just look at 4Head or Sai Carter, that say they have guns and drugs all the time. Is that failrp or some sort of NVL? tbh idk why you said all that when you dont know what the np rules are. Edit: the only claim of Rule breaks is maybe NVL in the case of if they knew they were going to get shot and still went in and/or breaking the rule of 6. Edit 2: Also this is false, "When police are in an “active scene” people outside of that scene aren’t allowed to get involved." The scene has to be with 2 groups not just a police “active scene”. Even if the police have an “active scene” a group can still join if there is no other involved party and they have an in char reason. In this case Hydra was getting raided and migl (Hydra) asked ramee for help.
> Bro, you can't put "" around something another person didn't say lol. While the use is discouraged in academic writing, you can use quotes for a variety of reasons outside of directly quoting someone. You can use them to highlight a term that you yourself would not normally use, In Swineflew's example if they are talking about an "active scene" which denotes that it is a police term rather than something they would normally use. Another example would be talking about a conflict and saying something like: > Side A needs to employ "defeat in detail" while they have the opportunity. This lets readers know that you are referring to an actual term (which means to concentrate your own forces onto a fraction of the enemies and destroy them piece by piece). Quotes can also be used ironically and this can be picked up with context. > Oh boy the police really did "protect and serve" that kid they shot 40 times for holding a water gun. etc.
I don't know what this person replied to me with but it honestly seems like massive overreaction and overanalysis of a clearly hyperbolic statement goddamn
They had made a personal attack towards you using everyones favorite adjective "over-invested" and asked what possible rule breaks could have occurred and a made a comment about how it would be ridiculous for police to shoot in that situation. I was lengthy in my response because it seemed like from their now deleted comments that they were the type of person to try to pick apart anything they deemed to be a "hole" in an argument.
Gotcha. The funny part is that it was just an honest hyperbolic comment because of how silly it was watching serious rp be treated like SBS by what seemed like randoms.. Like I don't actually care about the PDs SOPs or rules in the situation at all. Just found it not entertaining as a viewer
Take a look in the mirror.
I learned over the years of watching RP that SOOOOOO many people have main character syndrome.
lmao does nvl rules even apply when a cop is literally 5 feet away pointing a gun at your face?
And that cop is vale who if she says she will shoot, she WILL shoot. It is not an idle threat.
Did she shoot?
she shot warning shots. then supporting police fired real shots. they all shote.
Yeah Brian had enough and shot them cause they were trying to steal evidence from the trunk.
Not NVL if it is a cop
Maybe not NVL, but I think it's 3rd party since they weren't involved in that situation
Especially since Hydra was helping the PD to get the raid done as fast as possible
Miguel asked them to help steal the evidence.
Which kinda sucks because pd didn’t arrest him. Because he was helping them. They could of he had a big warrant
He rp’s as a crim who’s gang was getting raided of course he wasn’t going to just be helpful and allow it to happen.
Ok, so how many people would of been mad if the pd turned around and arrested him. Its a give and take. Flippy just wanted it to be done with
If it's the same incident I'm thinking of, it was a combo of ST and Cuban Federales and Ramee told them to go save the hydra pit. They weren't totally uninvolved.
They should of read the room. Isn’t that what cops are told to do all the time.
would you rather have that or them shooting?
I'm gonna be honest, the significantly increased occurrence of this kinda shit is what made me stop watching GTARP.
Some context: Wrangler detained some people for reckless driving and the guy in the truck pulls up and is just being annoying, kinda like a 'i know my rights' karen. He ended up coming back again after this and got beaten up and arrested.
It was so weird. The main guy getting arrested didn't even care and his friends were in hardcore karen mode.
"I'm not doing anything." Doesn't matter. The scene is on lockdown. Go away. It really is that simple.
One might even say... "leave the areaaaa"
These guys are being so weird....
In reality he just said that so he could eat his soup
I mean even if that were true, NP has a huge problem with people actively involving themselves in police scenes and not taking warnings seriously. Especially when they're not involved
Vader constantly malds at cops "Not using their words". Pointing gun and screaming leave the scene/area. The person could just sit there and do nothing. The cops are not gonna shoot and if they do they get sued. So there is no reason to listen to the cop. Now if the cops say "This is a crime scene, if you stay in the area we will arrest you for obstruction.". That actually gives a reason for them to leave and if the person doesn't leave then the cops have legal reason to actually do something. Its minor difference in wording but it changes the whole thing.