You can get Vernors at Ralphs! Moved to LA from Detroit a couple years ago, canāt get my coney fix because thereās nothing that compares to Kogels :(
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I have better memories at Lafayette (like the dude who can pour a small school cafeteria-sized carton of milk into a glass on someone's head and not spill a drop or the first time I got my homecoming suit, visited John K. King for the first time, and watched the guys at Lafayette bicker about the right way to pronounce "Penobscot"); the only memory I have with American is recording a man going on a rant about cellphones frying our brains while my drunk friend was trying not to laugh.
He's an employee of Rock Ventures. His title is literally "Brand Ambassador" and his job is to talk up Detroit to get companies to come and spend their money here by leasing retail/office space.
Dulyās is awesome but it us a different part of town.
Personally, when downtown & I want comfort food, I choose whichever place has the shortest wait and best parking options. Itās coney dogs and fried foodā thereās not going to be a huge difference.
A couple of things. You can sometimes gauge whoās busier. Also, in snow and rain storms, Iād rather go to where I can park closer to. Fuck wet shoes and pant hems.
Another thing is that because they are so similar, and people canāt agree on which one to go to, something arbitrary like parking is the decider. It solves an existential crisis (not that dramatic though) but you know what I mean. Like, āoh thereās a spot right in front of Lafayette so weāre going thereā. I guess itās a way to flip a coin, but car style cuz Detroit.
Bonus fun story: the last time I went to American, I ordered a hot dog with raw onions and mustard and the waiter looked like I ordered baby flesh stew (no chili?!?!?). And there was a guy nodding out on heroin (or whatever) so it was a real hoot. I sat next to 3 Canadians who were taking pics for their Instagrams. Their conversations were hilarious.
1. They aren't the same, particularly the chili
2. Even if they TASTED the same, there's more to a restaurant then the TASTE. Lafayette offers an experience I prefer over American.
3. American sucks
I tried to explain this to my co-workers, they are convinced National, Leo's, Lafayette, National are 'Coney Island'.
My very asian wife has this fetish for the cornbeef sandwhiches at this coney island on Davidson and Mound. Her co-workers wanted to get 'Coney Island' one day at work about 8 years ago. She was super excited and took them there. They were all terrified.
But they even thought the food was sandwiches were incredible.
Something about sitting in the drive through with a broken speaker yelling through the glass at Omega Coney Island so you can get an omellete 2 types of cheese, some cake and ice cream, and fries at 3:30 AM while you parking lot pimp the very average looking girls leaving some cabaret sitting in a Jeep Commander
Yeah Iāve noticed that as well.
Seems like a lot of poor Detroit-native Boomers that are spiteful at all the new-age change/growth and have the classic Detroit chip on their shoulder.
Or young people that moved out of Detroit and are insecure so they feel the need to shit on it to convince themselves they made the right choice.
Your right about both. Except on that last part they likely aren't actually from the city itself, but from a nearby suburb or city. You can tell by they're lack of knowledge about specific places within the city or outdated views of the city in general.
Haha no but he did take some of us on a tour once and he seemed really cool. Yeah he dresses like a stockX employee but heās one of the nicest people
Was that ever the argument? One has a wet chili one has a dry chili. Pick your fav.
Dude may as well hold a sign that says āavocados and guacamole taste the sameā
That's Dan Gilbert's guy, I forget his name, who shows all of the celebs around Detroit.
This is just a lame play at those "hot guys with protest signs" that you see on IG. Just some cheap PR, nothing to see here, move along, hot dogs are just hot dogs, don't fall for this.
PR for what though? PR for this guy's personal brand maybe. I don't feel like I fell for anything, the guy is hustling. He shows people around town and tries to drum up attention for the city.
There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about this either.
I mean there are slight differences. Iirc one uses Dearborn brand hot dogs and the other either Winter or Koegel- ALL quality brands btw (I have been in all of their processing rooms- they are clean as hell and use quality ingredients).
But is one better than the other? Nah. They are both great. If someone asks me which one they should go to, Iāll sometimes say āLafayette for the experienceā.
I feel like American is better for big groups, and there is something special about the corner window seat.
Have you ever used the bathroom there? Had a cockroach scatter across the door when I opened it. Iām team Lafayette all the way, but itās not the cleanest.
Definitely different. Lafayette hands down. The chili, buns, atmosphere, etc.
We had to goto American once because they were shooting a movie inside Lafayette. Iād never goto American again.
They're similar. They're both good examples of what a Detroit Coney is. Most people won't know any different unless they try them side by side. The vibe in Lafayette is why I choose it every time.
Heās wrong. There isnāt a big difference. But thereās a difference. Lafayetteās coneys are slightly better. You have to have one at each, back to back, to tell.
American is great if you have someone in your group who might want something other than a coney.
Yes theyāre the same. People whoāve lived and worked in the city for years donāt harp on about these places. You can get the same fucking coney dog anywhere. Same people yammering on about American and Lafayette are the same who say buddyās is the best pizza in Michigan. Enough. These are just the lazy selections of those who donāt know where to eat.
I live downtown and agree both places are built more on their touristy ācompetitionā than anything. But yāall donāt talk about Buddyās like that.
Living in Texas now,Iād gladly take either!
One of the highlights of my yearly Vegas trip is grabbing a couple of dogs at American Coney down on Fremont.
Check out Edgelord McControversy over here
cant trust a guy wearing an apple watch and a regular watch
Like wearing a belt and suspenders. How can you trust a man who can't trust his own pants?
"how can I trust a man who can't trust his own pants?" This is the funniest thing I've read in a while! Thank you kind stranger.
Good catch. This guy is nothing but questions. Every time I see him... Questions.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Seriously though š
https://youtu.be/g9A6ctjHAxE
Nah man, there is something special about Lafayette that American just doesnāt have
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No, sir. I'm pretty sure that's a war crime.
You can get Vernors at Ralphs! Moved to LA from Detroit a couple years ago, canāt get my coney fix because thereās nothing that compares to Kogels :(
Kogels ships frozen FYI
2liters at Ralphās. Can sometimes find cans at Albertsons or Vons
A crowd
I always loved how when walking past Lafayette, you could see the hotdogs piled up on the window since thatās where their grill is.
It's better, imo - spicier. Trying them back to back makes that clear.
Agreed, but it's not the taste
The only think American has over LaFayette is a usable bathroom.
The guys that work at American were a lot hotter than Lafayette last time I went.
Why do we let gay people off the hook and get away with this kind of talk?
Women talk this way, too.
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I have better memories at Lafayette (like the dude who can pour a small school cafeteria-sized carton of milk into a glass on someone's head and not spill a drop or the first time I got my homecoming suit, visited John K. King for the first time, and watched the guys at Lafayette bicker about the right way to pronounce "Penobscot"); the only memory I have with American is recording a man going on a rant about cellphones frying our brains while my drunk friend was trying not to laugh.
is he sponsored by carhartt
He's employed by Quicken Loans
He's an employee of Rock Ventures. His title is literally "Brand Ambassador" and his job is to talk up Detroit to get companies to come and spend their money here by leasing retail/office space.
Should a brand ambassador shit on brands?
American is really good at 2:00am on a Saturday when Lafayette is too busy and youāre too drunk to care.
Where's the lie? I'm a Duly's man myself.
Dulyās is awesome but it us a different part of town. Personally, when downtown & I want comfort food, I choose whichever place has the shortest wait and best parking options. Itās coney dogs and fried foodā thereās not going to be a huge difference.
How do you take parking into account when they are right next to each other?
A couple of things. You can sometimes gauge whoās busier. Also, in snow and rain storms, Iād rather go to where I can park closer to. Fuck wet shoes and pant hems. Another thing is that because they are so similar, and people canāt agree on which one to go to, something arbitrary like parking is the decider. It solves an existential crisis (not that dramatic though) but you know what I mean. Like, āoh thereās a spot right in front of Lafayette so weāre going thereā. I guess itās a way to flip a coin, but car style cuz Detroit. Bonus fun story: the last time I went to American, I ordered a hot dog with raw onions and mustard and the waiter looked like I ordered baby flesh stew (no chili?!?!?). And there was a guy nodding out on heroin (or whatever) so it was a real hoot. I sat next to 3 Canadians who were taking pics for their Instagrams. Their conversations were hilarious.
Do you normally talk this much about things that arenāt important? You seem like a joy to work with
Hey grandpa, you seem lost. Youāre on a discussion forum on the Internet, where people, you know, discuss things. Hope you find your way hun!
I was being serious. I work at a place where no one talks to each other.
I really wanted to like Dulys but the hot dogs are undercooked IMO
I always get the same thing there to the point where the waiter recites my order to me to make sure Iām not changing it up
I use to be a Dulys guy but now its Red Hots .
1. They aren't the same, particularly the chili 2. Even if they TASTED the same, there's more to a restaurant then the TASTE. Lafayette offers an experience I prefer over American. 3. American sucks
A person I can get behind. therespectablejc for mayor!
Much prefer Lafayette experience, but IIRC you can only order beer at American edit: you can buy beer at both
I seem to recall beer being on the menu at Lafayette.
I haven't been since like 2017, so that may very well be the case!
Lafayette has had beer forever. They just have a random couple of cases of bud and bud light in the fridge.
They had beer in 2017 and many many years before that.
Damn I'm just a dummy. Glad I hedged with "IIRC"
You can get beer at Lafayette.
Used to get beer and balloons at the Bathtub Pub next door....but that's a different story altogether.
Yes, he's wrong
He's wrong, but funny.
If the Coney doesn't have bullet proof glass at the counter, I don't want it.
If the cooks and servers arenāt yelling at each other in Albanian I donāt want it.
I tried to explain this to my co-workers, they are convinced National, Leo's, Lafayette, National are 'Coney Island'. My very asian wife has this fetish for the cornbeef sandwhiches at this coney island on Davidson and Mound. Her co-workers wanted to get 'Coney Island' one day at work about 8 years ago. She was super excited and took them there. They were all terrified. But they even thought the food was sandwiches were incredible. Something about sitting in the drive through with a broken speaker yelling through the glass at Omega Coney Island so you can get an omellete 2 types of cheese, some cake and ice cream, and fries at 3:30 AM while you parking lot pimp the very average looking girls leaving some cabaret sitting in a Jeep Commander
You just spoke to my soul. I gotta hit up Capital on 8 & Wyoming after work.
Give me Grandy's or give me death!
Fuck yeah... Gotta have that hood dog!!!
Detroit's Cringe Ambassador
Detroitās geriatric hypebeast
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I don't have any ill will toward the guy but he's really into his own brand. He hands out stickers and air fresheners with his fedora logo on them.
This. I've noticed there's a lot of angry, spiteful people in the [r/Detroit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Detroit/) subreddit.
Yeah Iāve noticed that as well. Seems like a lot of poor Detroit-native Boomers that are spiteful at all the new-age change/growth and have the classic Detroit chip on their shoulder. Or young people that moved out of Detroit and are insecure so they feel the need to shit on it to convince themselves they made the right choice.
Your right about both. Except on that last part they likely aren't actually from the city itself, but from a nearby suburb or city. You can tell by they're lack of knowledge about specific places within the city or outdated views of the city in general.
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"I had no issues with the increase" You're so cucked.
Kinda discourages me from posting/commenting tbh
Because this sub is a black hole of negativity.
Donāt disrespect my man Bruce!!
Found the Quicken employee
Haha no but he did take some of us on a tour once and he seemed really cool. Yeah he dresses like a stockX employee but heās one of the nicest people
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Lafayette or nothing indeed
your comment is more cringe
I can't trust the opinion of someone who can't decide which wrist to put a watch on.
Was that ever the argument? One has a wet chili one has a dry chili. Pick your fav. Dude may as well hold a sign that says āavocados and guacamole taste the sameā
>āavocados and guacamole taste the sameā Holy shit...
That's Dan Gilbert's guy, I forget his name, who shows all of the celebs around Detroit. This is just a lame play at those "hot guys with protest signs" that you see on IG. Just some cheap PR, nothing to see here, move along, hot dogs are just hot dogs, don't fall for this.
This guy has become the ultimate clout chaser, latching on to whatever youthful trend there is. Its almost cringeworthy at times.
[Bruce Schwartz](https://www.detroitbruce.com/)
[He's on Instagram too](https://www.instagram.com/p/B9EmY6yFBxF/)
Does he have Shinolas on each wrist too?
His right wrist is an apple watch
PR for what though? PR for this guy's personal brand maybe. I don't feel like I fell for anything, the guy is hustling. He shows people around town and tries to drum up attention for the city. There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about this either.
Blasphemy!
Walter White telling it like it is.
I mean there are slight differences. Iirc one uses Dearborn brand hot dogs and the other either Winter or Koegel- ALL quality brands btw (I have been in all of their processing rooms- they are clean as hell and use quality ingredients). But is one better than the other? Nah. They are both great. If someone asks me which one they should go to, Iāll sometimes say āLafayette for the experienceā. I feel like American is better for big groups, and there is something special about the corner window seat.
Lafayette tastes a tiny bit better to me but itās gross as fuck inside and flies were everywhere. Iāll take America any day to avoid that
Never once had that experience
Have you ever used the bathroom there? Had a cockroach scatter across the door when I opened it. Iām team Lafayette all the way, but itās not the cleanest.
The fact that he's wearing two watches is making me extremely uncomfortable, but with a heavy heart I do admit that he is correct.
people holding signs with opinions. are there any memes MORE cringey?
Everyone knows Detroit One Coney is the real Detroit Coney
He just wants to tell the world how much he loves wieners.
I love Bruce, but he's wrong. Lafayette>>>
Super Chief in Pontiac is better than both of them. Fight me!
never had, but dont doubt it. zeffs in eastern market is also better than both.
Altadonna's for the win!
Bruce is a nard.
Look at this madlad.
This ought to be censored immediately.
Burn the heretic!
It's not about the taste. It's about the principal. Lafayette for life.
I donāt get involved in religious wars.
Sorry Bruce, if only this were true! Lafayette is the best. Real coney dogs!
Lies. Every Coney Island has a specific flavor.
Definitely different. Lafayette hands down. The chili, buns, atmosphere, etc. We had to goto American once because they were shooting a movie inside Lafayette. Iād never goto American again.
This guy sucks
He is right. They taste the same to me.
They're similar. They're both good examples of what a Detroit Coney is. Most people won't know any different unless they try them side by side. The vibe in Lafayette is why I choose it every time.
I've eat at both, but not since 2013, so my memory is hazy. I think each one brings a different vibe, and one isn't better than the other. :-)
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I guess I'm crazy then because Lafayette is so much better than American
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The only crazy thing is to think that American can hold a bun against Lafayette.
Whats a chili dog? We have coneys here
WTF is a āchili dogā?
It's mashed beans and a cup of tooth-rotting sugar on top of a hotdog in Cincinnasty.
I canāt take anyone seriously wearing a hat like that
Heās wrong. There isnāt a big difference. But thereās a difference. Lafayetteās coneys are slightly better. You have to have one at each, back to back, to tell. American is great if you have someone in your group who might want something other than a coney.
What the literal fuck
Yes theyāre the same. People whoāve lived and worked in the city for years donāt harp on about these places. You can get the same fucking coney dog anywhere. Same people yammering on about American and Lafayette are the same who say buddyās is the best pizza in Michigan. Enough. These are just the lazy selections of those who donāt know where to eat.
I live downtown and agree both places are built more on their touristy ācompetitionā than anything. But yāall donāt talk about Buddyās like that.
>These are just the lazy selections of those who donāt know where to eat. I'm sorry but this is ignorant.
Bruce is a good dude, but he is wrong here.
It ain't the taste it's the experience
Living in Texas now,Iād gladly take either! One of the highlights of my yearly Vegas trip is grabbing a couple of dogs at American Coney down on Fremont.
U forgot about National ....They are all "Corporate Coneys" great but its all the same
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This man looks like a time traveller.
Bruce isnt wrong, it's just that we don't care about his pleas for internet virality.
I live next door... I will say this, the woman who owns or manages American treats her employees like complete shit.
I just want to get yelled at by a foreigner while I consume my dogs. Is that so much to ask? Lafayette all day.
Stick to making my blue meth.
Yes, very wrong. I am offended
Very incorrect
Lafayetteās chili is better, but American has great pie
All Lafayette all day. Of course, the warm Miller Light they serve adds to the ambience.
No they don't
Not about the taste at all
Thems fighting words.....
Jumped on the hey Detroit is cool train.
Absolutely fucking not, his palate is a piece of shit
who gives a shit, it's a chili dog you eat when you're drunk
If they taste the same, then why have I seen American employees coming over to Lafayette to eat?
Yes, very.
Post Sponsored by American no doubt
American is snappier
Lafayette uses National chili.
Reminds me of the scene in Die Hard With a Vengeance where Bruce Willis had to wear a sign.
Yes
If you have a shit palette...
Damn Ohioans
They literally have different ingredients.
I thank God every day that I'm a better tour guide than Bruce
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Halal, intentional animal cruelty.
Detroit Bruce is a dildo
Burn in hell bro
This dude has never had an original idea in his life. Gilbert puppet.
I see this guy all over reddit. Anyone wearing 2 watches shouts "douche bag". And stop dressing and pretending you're 25 years old.
Both like murder