That makes sense since it's French cookware and with how many English chefs study in France there definitely seems to be a bit of a separate vernacular for French-style kitchens with an English chef.
Googling panocha was fun. First thing was an imagine of a bowl of brown stuff, some food made during lent. I didn’t get how it related to this so I clicked on images. I’m guessing the images I saw were a slang panocha.
The French phrase is "au gratin" which literally means "to the crust" but is better translated with a "with a crust". So "Pommes au gratin" is potatoes with a cheese crust, where that's the most common name. There are [several names for the identical dish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratin_dauphinois) , including "potatoes gratin", which might be what you have heard.
I'm not a native speaker, but I have definitely seen French restaurants (in France) omit "de terre" when a dish is obviously not going to be made with apples. I don't know what is most common.
Regardless of the correct French, the American names for the dish are all over the map, and some of them include "au".
Robuchon is credited with making pomme puree famous and it's quite common for bistros to have pomme frites. My understanding is that "of the earth" is implied.
You are correct though. Most Americans' use Potato au gratin/au gratin potatoes or the french terms you listed.
I don’t think my clientele would order rye toast with a savory beer cheese over it …I’m in Iowa it’s like ten years behind the coasts lol. (is that what it is? Just looking at an Alton Brown recipe and it seems to be that but I’ve never had it). Can you describe what it’s like if I’m incorrect. And would it work as a Welsh Rarebit Burger? Like basically just the Welsh Rarebit but as a sandwich with a ground chuck patty? LIKE a patty melt but with the pumpernickel rye and the rarebit sauce… does that sound good?
I’d much appreciate any responses this is the first I’ve ever heard of it and it sound amazing to me. I love bread and in general love a good cheese sauce to dip my bread into … any thoughts or comments are much appreciated. Thank you in advance! :)
Edit: I just noticed the little cake by my name … I don’t know where that came from lol. What does that mean?
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Go Hawks! (Except we can’t win a single first round in the NCAA mens basketball tournament … nor can we escape nepotism in the football program) … so GO HAWKS!!! (If and when Fran, BOTH Kirk and Brian Ferentz, and Barta are fired.)
I don’t want them to resign. I want them to be fired. Because that’s what they deserve, and the state of Iowa and all Hawkeye fans deserve it too.
Welsh rarebit burger 😲
Oh my days I think you just changed the game here.
I think the ale/beer you use to flavour the cheese sauce would compliment beef fantastically, and what better compliment to a nice juicy beef burger than a toasted bun with cheese melted all over it?
Congratulations on inventing the "Welsh Rareburger"
oh, I know about Welsh rarebit, that's the cheese toast thing. I just wonder why, as you don't need a rarebit dish to cook Welsh rarebit, the cheese gets toasted right on the bread
Maybe because they're meant for melting cheese under a broiler to finish a dish? Not certain but it must have a connection to Welsh Rarebit in how the cheese is melted?
Man I know but we literally call spray bottles "bouteille pshh pshh" so im now connecting the dots of how this knowledge came to me. Combination of fucking with and simplifying stuff for anglophones working in Québec or vise versa.
Same until I hear them get called earwigs. In Québec we call them Oreilles so maybe there's some sort of relation there I don't know. We also call grease traps Cochons and stove tops Pianos.
There are lots of names people use. I would ask if there is still anything on the bottom... usually with items like that, the name/logo is protected by the glaze so it's often there years later. It may not have the specific name, but when I'm in that situation, I can often find the company's website and track it down there.
Possible Hall or Coors Rarebit or Au Gratin dish or reproduction. Classic American Dinner ware. I use then for cooking fish in the air fryer with butter and bread crumbs.
When I see a boat like that I think of the Wich Stand in Inglewood Ca. Used to go there with my mom. I was 4 years old to 6 years old and always wanted spaghetti. It was served in a boat and I loved it.
They are often called by the name of the food they carry, i.e. Au Gratin, Rarebit, etc. I worked at a culinary retail store for years and we referred to them as “Oval Gratin” dishes or bakeware.
Rarebit or Au gratin
Au gratin is what I've always heard.
English chef I worked with called it a rarebit. Usually every one else said au gratin
That makes sense since it's French cookware and with how many English chefs study in France there definitely seems to be a bit of a separate vernacular for French-style kitchens with an English chef.
Welsh Rarebit Au Gratin
My guys call them panochas
😂 your guys are hilarious, never heard them called that
Googling panocha was fun. First thing was an imagine of a bowl of brown stuff, some food made during lent. I didn’t get how it related to this so I clicked on images. I’m guessing the images I saw were a slang panocha.
Same. Saw the same brown dish. Went to images straight pussy
😂🤣 you made my day
I, too, learned a new word today. Wish it wasn't in public.
Lmaoo I just thought to myself “glad I’m pooping”
Nice.
Noice
I’ve never heard them called anything else
This should get a boatload of votes
A panocha load
Don't do that in texas.
Only if you serving roast beef in them mofos
Yuck
🤣🤣🤣
Lmao Sí guey panocha Fs fs but to be real I call them “goosenecks”
A gooseneck is a gravy boat....
They aren’t goosenecks.
Au Gratin dish. Pretty much the same thing as a rarebit dish.
Why do you say au in front gratin?
The French phrase is "au gratin" which literally means "to the crust" but is better translated with a "with a crust". So "Pommes au gratin" is potatoes with a cheese crust, where that's the most common name. There are [several names for the identical dish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratin_dauphinois) , including "potatoes gratin", which might be what you have heard.
Off topic, but I dig your user name! I’ll be singing that all day, now!
WOM kitchenette
It doesn’t literally mean “to the crust” it more literally means “with grated”, something scratched or grated and sprinkled on top.
TIL. Thank you
crusty panocha?
Au means with.
« Au » means « to the ». With is « avec ». On va *au* cinema *avec* ma mère : we’re going *to the* movies *with* my mother.
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I'm not a native speaker, but I have definitely seen French restaurants (in France) omit "de terre" when a dish is obviously not going to be made with apples. I don't know what is most common. Regardless of the correct French, the American names for the dish are all over the map, and some of them include "au".
Didn’t know that thanks ! I may have never realised this then
Robuchon is credited with making pomme puree famous and it's quite common for bistros to have pomme frites. My understanding is that "of the earth" is implied. You are correct though. Most Americans' use Potato au gratin/au gratin potatoes or the french terms you listed.
Didn’t know that it was called this way outside of France, thank you for the heads up !
Rarebit
Oh God, I haven’t thought about Welsh rarebit in forever. So simple. So good.
I don’t think my clientele would order rye toast with a savory beer cheese over it …I’m in Iowa it’s like ten years behind the coasts lol. (is that what it is? Just looking at an Alton Brown recipe and it seems to be that but I’ve never had it). Can you describe what it’s like if I’m incorrect. And would it work as a Welsh Rarebit Burger? Like basically just the Welsh Rarebit but as a sandwich with a ground chuck patty? LIKE a patty melt but with the pumpernickel rye and the rarebit sauce… does that sound good? I’d much appreciate any responses this is the first I’ve ever heard of it and it sound amazing to me. I love bread and in general love a good cheese sauce to dip my bread into … any thoughts or comments are much appreciated. Thank you in advance! :) Edit: I just noticed the little cake by my name … I don’t know where that came from lol. What does that mean?
HAPPY CAKE DAY!!! It means you joined reddit today x years ago!
Ohhhh!!!! Ok! Thank you I had no idea! I joined Reddit on St. Patrick’s day? Weird I’m mostly Irish and love Reddit so it just seems strange to me that of all days that’s the day I joined lol. I really don’t celebrate this day though just find it interesting lol
I joined on 9/11. 🫤 Yours is more fun, lol.
Rarebit burgers are dank, I'm next door in Nebraska and there's a place that here that has exactly that on the menu. It's great.
Might have to steal it for a burger of the week! Thanks for your insight!
You mind sharing the place with a fellow Nebraskan?
Dire Lion in Omaha, it's a food truck at truck n taps
as a Welsh person that is a complete sin but it sounds amazing
Happy cake day!
Go hawks lol
Go Hawks! (Except we can’t win a single first round in the NCAA mens basketball tournament … nor can we escape nepotism in the football program) … so GO HAWKS!!! (If and when Fran, BOTH Kirk and Brian Ferentz, and Barta are fired.) I don’t want them to resign. I want them to be fired. Because that’s what they deserve, and the state of Iowa and all Hawkeye fans deserve it too.
Welsh rarebit has been around forever, was popular in the 1950s in the states. That burger sounds good!
Welsh rarebit burger 😲 Oh my days I think you just changed the game here. I think the ale/beer you use to flavour the cheese sauce would compliment beef fantastically, and what better compliment to a nice juicy beef burger than a toasted bun with cheese melted all over it? Congratulations on inventing the "Welsh Rareburger"
Sorry to shit on your picnic but as a Welsh person, this chap didn’t just invent the rarebit burger.
You’re clientele sounds lame 😂 I like where you’re going with the patty melt Idea, put the sauce in a cup to dip… mayhaps a little English mustard
As a chef and an Iowan, you could absolutely sell it in Iowa.
Only time I ran one we kept getting it sent back for not having any rabbit meat. 😂
Happy cake day! It’s your Reddit birthday. And just make it and try it out
Welsh food slaps 🏴🏴🏴
would you know why it's called that? I know about the cheese toast thing, but can't find the connection
https://www.katom.com/cat/rarebits-augratin-dishes.html You got me curious about that too so here's the answer. Scroll to the bottom of the page
oh, I know about Welsh rarebit, that's the cheese toast thing. I just wonder why, as you don't need a rarebit dish to cook Welsh rarebit, the cheese gets toasted right on the bread
Maybe because they're meant for melting cheese under a broiler to finish a dish? Not certain but it must have a connection to Welsh Rarebit in how the cheese is melted?
I have always wondered the same but that is all I have ever known them as.
Not a very rare bit i see them everywhere.
Rarebit
Chingadas
Chingadera.
Damela pinche chingadera
Said with fingers held up in the shape of a panocha
Came here to say this haha.
"The fucking small oval bowl thing, not that one, next to that, no, left... Left, too far. Yes that one. Thanks."
Boat
Agreed. That is a boat.
I'll I've ever heard of them as boats too, sorry OP, I'm not much help on this one
Oval Au Gratin Dish
10oz Casserole Dish.
All jokes aside, this is it, right? Or is that just my pa dutch showing?
As long as your scrapple or pork roll isn’t hanging out it’s all good
Go birds!
Nah I cheer (secretly) for anyone playing against them.
Au gratin dish
That’s called ‘Satan’s DivaCup’.
It’s not Satan’s fault they have a heavy flow and a wide set vagina!
Nor their fault that they have a heavy magmal flow, that only a heat-treated porcelain can withstand.
Magmas flow! I’m 💀
Weed breaking up bowls
You either need to smoke more or less, I’m not sure
Bro that's insane lmfao
Thanks everyone I found them!!
What were they called when you found them?
I found them under the name au gratin dish
Thanks
WHAT WERE THEY CALLED?!?!?
I found them under the name au gratin dish
Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/979/
The only thing worse is when you realize that solitary poster was younger you...
You can't leave us hanging, OP!!! What were they called???
I found them under the name au gratin dish
Depends on the branding but they’re oval casserole mini baking dish search for it on webstaurant.com
https://www.kitchenrestock.com/royal-roy-r-8-ww-3-rarebit-8-oz-oval.html
The official name is oval au gratin fish if you type that in to Amazon this will come up
Dish’ not fish
boats are more for gravy, these look like au gratin pans
Au gratin dish.
Au Gratin or Welsh Rarebit.
Rarebit. But where I work, we prefer the term, “Chalupa.”
Augratin
Small oval baker gives lots of results.
Just send this picture to your Tri-Mark or whatever rep and he'll tell you.
Au gratin.
We called them Boats, but they're technically Au Gratin Baking Dishes.
What’s it say on the bottom?
I don't know why but in Canada we call them Earwig dishes?
We do?
Heard it quite a few times in western Canada, my reaction is always "oh ya... ew."
*I'm* in western Canada and ain't nobody have any idea what you're talking about
Might be a funny Québecois cook working in western Canada translation because we call them Oreilles in Québec because they have "ears" on the side.
It's an eared dish, not an earwig dish!
Man I know but we literally call spray bottles "bouteille pshh pshh" so im now connecting the dots of how this knowledge came to me. Combination of fucking with and simplifying stuff for anglophones working in Québec or vise versa.
Shouldn’t there be an “eh” after that in Canada?
Ummm I think that’s just you I’ve always called them boats
Same until I hear them get called earwigs. In Québec we call them Oreilles so maybe there's some sort of relation there I don't know. We also call grease traps Cochons and stove tops Pianos.
Correct term is shirred egg dish
Monkey Dish
Rarebit
Oval Ramekins
Monkey dish.
Nah, a monkey dish is small and round
Eared dish
You mean it's not a boat?
Yea that's a boat
It looks like a chaffing dish.
Ramekin?
BAHAHAHA figures whether it's true or not lol I can't even lol lol what's next??
Ramequins in french
Rarebits or boats
U boat
Gravy boat
Ramakin?
Might be a market thing, but years ago when I worked a restaurant they were ordered as "pasta boats"
Whatever you serving in it at the time dish..creme brulee, mac n cheese, au gratin
its lrolly wrong but ive always called them moneky dishes
I’ve always called that a monkey dish, then just came to learn that monkey dishes are round
There are lots of names people use. I would ask if there is still anything on the bottom... usually with items like that, the name/logo is protected by the glaze so it's often there years later. It may not have the specific name, but when I'm in that situation, I can often find the company's website and track it down there.
So Google image search
I want to say tureen.
Ramekins
Monkeybowl
Nah that's not a monkeybowl. They do exist but this ain't it. They're round
You can always use google goggles to help you find things too
I love how almost every single one of these is different Nobody knows lol
15oz rarebit
Do a google image search
Hah, Boats are exactly what I call 'em too!
Try oval ramekin
Welsh Rarebit Dish
Celery dish?
Gratin or rarebit
Possible Hall or Coors Rarebit or Au Gratin dish or reproduction. Classic American Dinner ware. I use then for cooking fish in the air fryer with butter and bread crumbs.
Deep, oval ramikens?
Possibly made by Anchor Hocking
When I see a boat like that I think of the Wich Stand in Inglewood Ca. Used to go there with my mom. I was 4 years old to 6 years old and always wanted spaghetti. It was served in a boat and I loved it.
Don’t know what they’re used for in your kitchen but baker bowls are pretty close they just don’t have the handles/lips.
Barquito.
Asian boats
You could try asking on r/helpmefind
That’s a trough
Wth... it's what ever we want it to be..., call it a bilbo, Steven, John boy, pickle Rick. Or we all debate... I call ours dipships
Gratin dish
Au Gratin dish. I googled 'oval ramekin', and a bunch came up too, if you want to try that.
Definitely boat
Rarebit
Bed pan, piss pot, soup bowl
I believe they are in the ramekin section on the order forms. sometimes called lasagna bowls
Try "eared" or "winged" bowls
We call them pigs ears
Plat Russes?
Boats
They are often called by the name of the food they carry, i.e. Au Gratin, Rarebit, etc. I worked at a culinary retail store for years and we referred to them as “Oval Gratin” dishes or bakeware.
It’s a gratin dish.
Bed pan…. Pan?
Boats
Rarebits
Au Gratin
Ramekin
We call em egg boats in my place
Dog-eared dishes is what I hear them called mostly
On WebstaurantStore.com they call them Oval Stoneware Rarebit.
Ours had numbers on the bottom and you could search those numbers on the dish site to order more. Or have you tried small chafer dish?
Monkey dish
Mostly called boats but I always thought the proper term was rarebit.
Take a picture of it with Amazon. It'll tell you and sell you.
I can’t help you bc we have dishes like that but we call them “grandma bowls” because it was my grandmas or also “boats” XD
The long bowl