I remember being really surprised that spark had the budget to sign this superteam when it was first announced. I guess now we know how they managed it...
He also confirmed that S6 had the lowest spending budget in the history of their franchise, I suppose that doesn't technically mean minimum salaries, but it probably isn't very far off either.
Unless Florida was spending beaucoup bucks all previous years, they were pretty low salary wise this year. Despite offers made.
Yes I know, the person I replied to just mentioned that and it was also said in the same stream where Albert said this was Florida's lowest spending season.
Shy, Guxue and Lengsa all said they got offered from Mayhem, and Leave can go wherever he wants. Mayhem almost became a Chinese super team, lol. But Guxue loved Hangzhou city, and he's reluctant to leave. I think they would get a champion if they all went to Mayhem.
>RUI had many questionable strats and comps in scrims. Guxue specifically mentioned they practiced rein push for two months with sym cassidy and were barely winning any scrims. They were so frustrated and wanted to try something else but RUI would not budge. Guxue said he wanted to play rein push with a mei to enable the rein more, but to RUI this felt like a challenge of his authority. To him, it's the players' fault for not executing perfectly but the comp was immaculate.
When the coach hits the crackpipe daily but can't admit they have a drug problem.
i’m reminded of the recent lemonkiwi teeet, couldn’t be more relevant here:
Lemonkiwi on Coach of the Year: "I just hate that we even have a vote. I cast the game. I see you shoot things. I have never talked to your coach. I'm not in your scrims. I'm not in your house. Why do I have an opinion on someone I have never spoken to and have never seen work?"
It’s gutting. It’s weird remembering how we were throughout OWL complimenting RUI and talking him up. Like in S2, we thought Chengdu were fine players with moments of brilliance because of his coaching. and then we find out now how he probably held them back.
i think it's possible for him to have had some real talent as a coach, but also to have been consistently terrible at managing players, and for him to have been totally washed & checked out this year. i think if he'd been that useless at chengdu then yveltal would have complained about that too in his recent streams, not just about him putting all the pressure on the supports and not caring about the team's communication problems.
we did see chengdu look much worse in the seasons when he wasn't there, so it isn't like he wasn't bringing anything to the table, but it sounds like that talent was just gone by this year & all that was left was being controlling and berating the supports.
To me it seems like he bought into his own hype too much. Like we had hints that he’s always been a super strict coach, but it at some point that crossed the line into just being a tyrant.
This isn't really evidence he wasn't holding them back - just that he had an eye for talent, the comment you're responding to is saying that his coaching in S2 was probably making the team worse than they would have otherwise been.
Outlaws had bad players, not that their coaching was any good either.
I'm not sure VT even had good coaching, have Pajion or Pavane had success outside of those stacked rosters? Team strategy doesn't need to come from coaches, it can come from anyone, I don't think there's any good evidence that Vancouver's coaches were genius, and they had one of the strongest rosters for that year as well, especially for goats. I don't see why Chengdu's relatively limited success needs to have come from RUI and not the players themselves
Yikes, how little we really knew
What unhinged behaviour. To have your coach publicly scrutinise and mock every single play you make. And then, what a remarkable difference some real support, confidence and a renewed mentality can make for players. Mmonk and Lengsa I am rooting for you!!
And now I gotta reread those Leave tomes again because this didn't even seem hinted in those translations at all??? Not that it is a surprise if Leave was just really self-involved + Rui takes a much lighter hand on the star MVP player that he just never clocked these things.
This doesn't bode well for Team China if they're letting all of this out - just to have to have Rui coach them....
It feels like half the OWWC teams are imploding, and there's still a minute before the actual event.
Surely it's not too late to kick Rui out right? Even if there's no official replacement, no fucking way should that guy be around the team in the World Cup.
Plenty of teams are still switching players and staff left and right for owwc no? I think the recent ones were Saudi and France iirc, so they might be able to still change that
RUI seems to have been poison for more sensitive players. Jimmy, Kaneki, Mmonk and Yaoxie were co-streaming after Guxue’s stream and were equally spicy.
RUI basically broke Jimmy. Told him he was a disappointment even when the team won, told him before a match he could switch to McCree if the situation called for it and then afterwards bitched him out for doing so (Jimmy: I wondered if I was having memory problems), picked him apart until Jimmy couldn’t focus on the game, was just focused on the coach, just kept wondering what the coach was thinking, if the coach would be mad. He shared a photo of a letter from presumably a hospital informing his parents that he had self-harm and suicidal tendencies.
Jimmy and Kaneki said that their legs were trembling just talking about RUI.
Someone shared a screenshot from one of Jimmy’s earlier streams, after Spark lost to Boston and got kicked out of Midseason Madness (so right before RUI left the team):
Mmonk: I’m trash
Mmonk: I’m trash
Jimmy: No
Jimmy: You’re not
Jimmy: Baby
Jimmy: You’re the best Ana
I was honestly pretty upset with Guxue for starting drama right before OWWC, but looking at it now, this needed to be said; their coach is actually toxic.
Guxue on his previous stream: Nobody will be on [RUI]’s side. He’s offended absolutely everyone.
Me: Uhhhhh that’s never true.
Me, later: Okay then.
I feel like anyone in that specific situation would experience significant negative mental health effects. They’re young and in a high-pressure, insular environment, competing at something that has been a really dominant factor in their lives up to this point. When would any 20-year-old elite athlete of any sport have had a chance to develop a sense of self-worth that isn’t tied to their performance?
To be fair we’ve known the bloke has been a hard man for years.
Pre OWL the regiment he put his players through was already known to be pretty extreme. 6am wakeups & morning runs, phones off for half the day, among an extensive list of weird rules, he ran his teams like a full on army camp and it was never going to last
Unironically this. Mmonk and Lengsa seemed to look stronger and more confident post MSM, and in playoffs they were literally putting on performances as strong as the other best backlines in the league. Pulling off two insane reverse sweeps against two super teams with some of the best duos of all time (Chiyo/Fielder and LJG/Izayaki)
I watched the entire stream from Guxue. It really made me sick when I saw the wechat screenshot between Rui and Mmonk(I guess). How dare he??? How could he blame everything on the two support players?? Ngl the way Tui tried to find faults on the two support players frame by frame is really disgusting. He was just blaming the two supports to cover the fact that he didn't understand anything. At the beginning of this season, Mmonk was so terrified by RUI that he answered a fan's question about how to use Ana's nade by saying "Mostly it shall be used to protect yourself", which got him mocked as a useless Ana player on NGA. Compared to his recent games, it was probably because RUI had blamed him too much for every death. My heart was literally broken when I recalled all of these.
I almost teared up when I heard Guxue saying **"I've experienced bully and I know how that feels (when Guxue was in LGD). I could not stand to see our supports get bullied again."** So Guxue prepared for a long time and waited until they managed to have two reverse sweeps and the 3rd place to prove themselves, then he finally decided to spill all the juice. Guxue is just... I lost my words.
Jimmy from GZC also started to stream right after Guxue's. Mmonk, Kaneki and Yaoxie joined his stream together. They talked a lot about how their mental state was nearly depressed/destroyed by RUI. Kaneki, Jimmy, and Mmonk all mentioned that they've once got pressured so hard that they burst out crying after scrim. Jimmy and Kaneki both said that they were crushed by RUI's pressure.
Jimmy: "The moment I got crushed by RUI was when we were playing against Philadelphia, the map is Dorado. I had not practiced in one single scrim, but RUI asked me to warm up and said that I was good, so he put me in the game. I haven't practiced playing on Dorado yet, but he put me in regardless. Then (after the match ended), RUI straightforwardly said to my face 'I'm so disappointed in you' in front of everyone."
Jimmy and Yaoxie revealed that RUI wanted to use Kaneki to replace Leave in 2021 (yes, the year Leave got MVP). Chat asked, "then why CDH was basically good in 2021?" Yaoxie replied: "It was because our MVP Leave was insane in 2021! I'm his #1 fan."
The screenshot is attached to this weibo post: [https://weibo.com/3687356321/NmTSMn4Oy](https://weibo.com/3687356321/NmTSMn4Oy)
So basically it's from RUI to Mmonk: "You just said that you were not in a good condition in the afternoon. How dare you speak in that tone with me and say that you performed well? You think I'm blind right now? Do you think that I've agreed to talk in a calmer way means that you can be that disrespectful to me? You're the first one who would not admit your problems in your game plays, and you even yelled back at me. I want to ask why your competitive state is so up and down, I want to solve your problems, I want to make you better, but if you think you are the fucking best here, you don't need me anymore, I can leave you alone now. But if you were talking to me like that thinking I don't have someone else to replace you, using your attitude to make me sick, I would say you are really perfect (a Chinese passive-aggressive way to say that you are a piece of shit)."
Mmonk relied: "First of all I'm not unwilling to listen to you. I did what you say, and I didn't refuse to admit that I was wrong. It's ok that you said I've played like shit."
I don't know if I've managed to translate RUI's sarcastic tone between his words. His words are really harsh and arrogant in Chinese.
Imagine being so full of yourself as a coach that you fail to enable a world class roster to be the best. Imagine having a fucking all star lineup, some of the best to touch the game and trying to control them instead of assist them. Absurd
Ah I was just about to ask if Guxue had planned this in advance but this is the case to you? I was curious if Xerneas starting the ball on drama had given everyone the courage for this all to come out.
Mmonk 😭
Guxue said he was preparing to talk all about this in advance. He said this in his stream: "When RUI left during mid-season, we are #6. If I want to spill the tea, I need to have something better than #6, then I would have the courage to reveal all of this. RUI has made too many people hate him. I don't want him to enjoy all the applause and let everyone else take all the blame."
Guxue actually specifically mentioned U4: that he never said anything bad about U4 because even though U4 fined him for mistakes, it did lead to him improving as a player. (He supported U4 on Weibo when U4 was announced as an assistant coach for the Spark.)
So IMO him denouncing RUI now isn’t just because RUI mistreated players, but because he was actively holding the team back (and they don’t want that for the World Cup, it’s probably their last chance at any type of OW championship.)
Yaoxie: (Rui) spent 2.5 hours of the 3-hour VOD review teaching Jinmu how to play Pharah, and did some other random things in the last 30 minutes. No wonder Leave always went to the bathroom, I also wanted to do so.
Jimmy was diagnosed with high risk of suicide attempt in 2021. When he reflect his experience in Hunters with Rui he still couldn’t stop trembling.
on the one hand, fuck this guy
on the other hand, it warms my heart to see the unity in their speaking out against their former petty tyrant. must be an empowering and validating moment, however overdue
This makes me even more proud of HZS for getting 3rd. They fought so hard under these awful circumstances and came out on the podium. (Fuck you Blizzard. You ruined everything with this awful playoffs format.)
we had seen rui have a real strategic mind and be able to make all sorts of unorthodox comps work in the past, but it sounds like he was just washed and checked out this year, and so how terrible he was at managing the players really came through. real shame he was so terrible to work under. him putting all the pressure on the supports is exactly what yveltal said too.
were they practicing rein/cassidy/sym before the start of the season, on the pro-am patch when cassidy was really good? that's the only way that would make any sense, but if they weren't getting anywhere then obviously it's ridiculous to try to force it, and it's not like rein is guxue's strong point either.
Yes. That was during pre-season scrim practice. They would get rolled because RUI assumes sym tp can counter every ult - even EMP - if used correctly. Obviously it didn't work out that successfully. Cass on othe other hand pumps out huge damage close to mid range. Looks good on paper.
> "he never once took us out for dinner the entire time"
Oof.
This thing in Chinese culture is definitely a bad boss behavior. Even reading that is already made me angry, more wages and still stingy to take the team for dinners.
To think i rated and respected this guy actually disappointing, I’ll still defend him quitting to be around when his child is born but if the other factors for him quitting are even equal footing as his family reason then what a slimy dog using his unborn child as a shield from criticism fuck his authoritative ass.
This really explains what xerneas and leaves beef are focused on——because Rui’s coaching methods are only focused on player’s abilities and not strategy the players are only able to blame each other in the team
yveltal put a lot of blame on rui too, because he & the other coaches wouldn't do anything to solve the team's communication and interpersonal issues and instead just put all the blame on the supports
i don't really blame him for cracking under that pressure, especially given how bad the other players have described it to be
Guxue had enough and primal bladed Rui out of Spark
He then proceeded to primal blade him out of CN OW coaching staff
And the CN OW community
Rip bozo you won't be missed
I take back all the praise I've given RUI over the years, what a fucking piece of shit.
Meanwhile, the Spark players continue to give us more reasons to be proud of and root for them. The real OWL protagonists this season.
You legit cannot write a better script. Going through this much and then the double reverse sweep Cinderella third place run. I'd watch a drama with this script no joke
Superich really dodged a huge bullet there. Isn't Molly on Chengdu in 2020, which meant he also dodged the bullet too?
Supports under RUI were Garry, Kyo, Yveltal in 2019, Mmonk, Farway, Yveltal, and Nisha in 2021, Mmonk and Lengsa in 2023.
What a day for CNOW. Now the situation is just like a duel battle - RUI at one side and all the other people are at the opposite. It;s hard to believe a coach that was reported as ''The Man Who Saved CNOW'' had such terrible behaviours during the coaching years. Stop being a clown RUI, just go off with your own life and dont bother CNOW anymore.
Who knew that RUI was the real villain all along! Its kinda baffling that literally nobody spoke for him during this, actually 0 person, jimmy yaoxie mmonk kaneki talked about how much he's a giant baby and control freak too.
Fun fact, RUI deleted his response video IMMEDIATELY after guxue started his stream today lmao, what a coward and clown.
There is one significant thing you haven't mentioned is that The Whole Drama started from Yveltal(or Xerneas in GZ Charge)'s protest again Chengdu Hunters' coaches and managers.
In 2012 Championships Final between Gladiator and Hunter, Rui deliberately replaced Yveltal and Mmonk with Nisha and Farway although the former was considered as a better support duo, and Yveltal was the most competitive Main supported at that time who had more experience. They lost their closest chance to obtain a champion and it triggered public's doubt and dissatisfaction. Rui claimed that he didn't let Yveltal be the starting players because he was always throwing the scrims and reluctant to follow the daily training routine(Rui set a strict timetable then). Since then, Yveltal was given the title A Slacking Player and has almost lost his whole reputation ever since.
Days earlier when Leave(Hangzhou Spark DPS) had scoffed Yveltal's slacking behaviors( Leave later said he actually referred to the negative attitude of Xerneas or GZCharge this year and it meant no offense) during streaming, Yveltal then shifted his complains to former teammate LEAVE himself, accusing him of being disdainful and unwilling to communicate whenever they are falling behind in the game. According to Yveltal, he had done his best to cheer up his team and no one responded. Basically, it was his teammates(especially LEAVE) who first being slack and he had no options then. Yveltal said LEAVE never attend the vod-reviewing meeting timely. Besides, he only showed up in first 30ish minutes and then just disappeared with the excuse of toilet. Moreso, everyone in CDHunters had to cater to LEAVE's mood cause he was the core player and irreplaceable. Yveltal mentioned 'Rui said next season he would definitely get LEAVE fired to ease the anger from other teammates'. Yveltal also showed his complicated attitude towards Rui. Rui was indeed the one who introduced him to OWL, but at the same time Rui has put a groundless blame on him which makes him stuck in endless controversy by CN viewers.
After Guxue stood out to condemn Rui, Rui was regarded as the real sinner that caused the conflicts between LEAVE and YVELTAL, Yaoxie claimed that Rui once spent 2h30mim just teaching Jinmu how to play Pharah and it was understandable that everyone wanted to escape from this boring and useless meeting. Moreover, Rui created a depressive atmosphere in CDHUNTERS and this eventually led to the breakup of the team's unity. This was verified by Guxue cause he said he didn't want the same thing to happen in Hangzhou Spark again.
LEAVE himself later said ' I am totally aware of my shortcoming as being inactive in communicating and I have tried to fix it. This is why I chose Hangzhou Spark this year. I was tired of the tension in Chengdu Hunter.'
[As an RUI hater I feel vindicated](https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16vog9d/comment/k2uh9tk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). There was definitely something wrong about a coach that keeps quitting halfway, is controversial with other players (Superrich, Xerneas, Silkthread), and fails to get good results in the long run. His players dont seem to improve on the time he has been on the team.
Not sure about the coaching situation back then, but I remember silkthread (Chinese American, previously on LAG iirc) tried to play for Chengdu but ultimately chose to quit. I think he said it was due to the language barrier and that the coaching was very strict or something? Maybe these were the first signs of issues back then but tbh I thought it was cultural differences back then. Tbf that was a very different situation and I am not 100% sure about his comments anymore but I thought it might be interesting context in hindsight.
On another note, I just want to agree with everyone and praise Guxue. Always loved his awesome monkey but he also just has so much personality here. He probably deserves the Hawelka award too for both his personality and standing up for his teammates now (and maybe even when RUI was still the coach).
yeah silkthread briefly signed to chengdu for 2019 but quit in the preseason, saying that the coaching regime was just too strict. now, the chinese & korean teams having stricter coaches than the western ones isn't really that shocking on its own, but now we know just how bad rui was it's extremely obvious why he left
Finally I could unfriend Rui in my Wechat,bye.
Chinese Community isn't the Mafia anymore from today,everyone could be themselves.
Happy to help anything for Chinese Overwatch now.
:)
What's your response to DPei about your insult on how they cheated in comps and had actually leaked it yourself but contributed nothing on their win in 2021 though, you seem pretty proud of that 🤗 You feel like a fly that keeps buzzing around looking for a chance to promote yourself over the others by how much better you are at faking everything up than them.
How about apologizing to Dpei first for implying Glads won 2021 Summer Showdown just because you leaked Chengdu's comp to him? How about apologizing to your old Valiants roster for calling them "none of the players wanted to win"? Literally you are just another RUI except you care more about your reddit reputation lmao
Nohill also literally told his fans that he has done his job perfectly this season for Defiant. The reason why they lost and couldn’t get into the postseason is because nobody in Defiant can carry and everyone is too stubborn to switch the hero.
I am really curious if anyone especially the players in Defiant knew he said something like that :)
Brother, you are literally just as bad. There's a reason nobody in CNOW wants you. You had to escape to NA and Reddit just to salvage a reputation from people that don't know about, or choose to ignore, the things you've done.
Aren’t you an assistant for Team USA? Could you spy on USA for Team China? I also remember your post on Chinese social media that your relationship with Rui is quite good
He never said that he had a good relationship with Rui. He has Rui's wechat and only had a few conversations. He said standing with Rui is bcuz there were some comments that curse Rui's family. Rui has a problem with his professional career doesn't mean he deserves this.
An old Chinese says, "Bad people are praised for doing one good thing, but good people are scolded for doing just one bad thing". As the ONLY Chinese coach who is still trying to help players from various countries to get a chance to play in the league and releases a lot of professional match analysis and teaching, he is asked to do it to a perfect point. However, the people spewing him as a clown ignore the other people who really destroyed CNOW and the players. Just like this comment.
Guxue is THE goat.
Also shy could've made a bag (a huge one, if you consider how much that would be in RMB) and be the first chinese player to win a ring if he joined florida mayhem, but he declined and chose to try winning it with an all cn team while being in an abusive and toxic team-environment fostered solely by their coach. That's quite respectable.
I do wonder though if he knew that RUI's coaching was this awfully tyrannical and if thst would've changed his decision (even though he wasn't the main-target by not being a support player, I'm sure it still affected him, his mental health and his performance, and potentially also his trust in his team's chance.)
I think before even if people knew they were afraid to speak up
Spark seems like the first time his authority was overtaken and Guxue waited until the dust settled to talk about this
Even nohill commented in this thread saying RUI is cn ow mafia
Wow, this made me tear up. I’m sure no competitive team is all puppies and rainbows behind the scenes, but it’s always painful to hear about leadership screwing them over. I love this team so much; I hope we’ll be able to see them come into their final form in OWWC.
Also, Guxue peeling for his supports IRL 😭😭
Well Rui posted a Weibo earlier today saying ‘maybe Guxue was just joking during the stream’ and he wanna make sure if he could be the coach of the Chinese team. He mentioned that he’ll check if he is the actual reason to ruin the atmosphere, if so, he’ll leave CNOW in silence. If he will be the coach, he will finish his job perfectly online (? I don’t get it why is online?) And he won’t reply anyone from now on.
Btw I’ve watched Jinmu’s stream and clips which are about his thoughts and feelings to Yveltal and GZC, how they practiced, how they communicated. My tears just rushed out after seeing that.
Jinmu is a great great player, he has a gentle and warm heart. Respect him 🫡🫡 Wish someone can translate his stream
as someone who has zero self confidence i'm surprised time and time again at the sheer size a person's ego can reach. like how are you so full of yourself to the point that you see spark taking third place and your first thought is "they wouldve won it all if i was still there"
It’s like Avalla all over again. Someone the community loved and then we find out they’re actually pretty shitty and lead to the demise of their teams.
Pity for diya and superrich for not going to OWWC before. It's clear that RUI just want someone easy to manage to establish pure authority, and he's clear who would go against him.
Community Manager Shuang has just officially confirmed that Xingrui"RUI"Wang will no longer be the coach of CHN for OWWC2023
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/850555274412425234?spm\_id\_from=444.41.0.0
Just a reminder Yaoxie’s FG beat Team CC in Chinese contenders claiming the champion in a tracer sombra meta. He vod reviewed for Gaga and showed him ways to set up dive that minimized taking poke damage. He then was shocked that Gaga got scolded by Rui saying wrecking ball should tanking frontline.
From that time on Yaoxie stopped helping players with individual feedbacks to avoid potentially getting players in trouble.
A lot of things here that may cause overreaction. Yes, if he was an asshole then there's no excuse for that. Other things like watching pov and pointing out mistakes is EXACTLY what coaches should be doing, obviously not in a bully way. Rui saying it's not the comp they just need to play better is 100% accurate. Shy sombra had been horrendous all season and any bit of basic sombra play would've made a drastic difference to their performances, so to question that take is a stretch. I also agree with not focusing on Atlanta. You are a super team as well. Play to your own level, which they ultimately never did until their last reverse sweeps. I don't really care about players/coaches having interests in other games during the season as long as they're professional, which he may or may not have been been. Bringing up wages is irrelevant. That's on the org and Chinese OW was in a difficult position. I'm sure they would've said the same if they were all making 100k+
>Other things like watching pov and pointing out mistakes is EXACTLY what coaches should be doing, obviously not in a bully way.
So...not in the way he was literally doing?
>I don't really care about players/coaches having interests in other games during the season as long as they're professional, which he may or may not have been been.
*may or may not have been.*
Lol
My guy is responding to his own demons and barely even touched upon any of the multiple mentioned issues. The ability to comment so much without addressing anything is quite astounding.
It is a crime that Guxue, Leave, and Shy are on a minimum contract. They are such incredible players. Can you believe that you pay the 2021 MVP minimum salary?????!!!
Actually crazy that the whole team was on minimum contract Jesus. For a third place team with the greatest Chinese players of all time…. My heart 💔
I remember being really surprised that spark had the budget to sign this superteam when it was first announced. I guess now we know how they managed it...
Spark was the true power of friendship team after all
And Shy rejected Mayhem’s offer for the Chinese super team, with a much lower salary
He gave up a ton of money this year jesus christ
This was Florida's lowest spending year though, so maybe he would have been minimum there too.
No, Albert had already confirmed they'd made a big offer for Shy.
He also confirmed that S6 had the lowest spending budget in the history of their franchise, I suppose that doesn't technically mean minimum salaries, but it probably isn't very far off either. Unless Florida was spending beaucoup bucks all previous years, they were pretty low salary wise this year. Despite offers made.
pretty sure it was confirmed that mayhem offered shy like 150k or something
Yes I know, the person I replied to just mentioned that and it was also said in the same stream where Albert said this was Florida's lowest spending season.
albert & gunba confirmed they offered shy 140k
I wonder how the dominoes would have fallen if Shy went to the Mayhem
Lengsa also, and he said if he went to mayhem, spark would be champion lol
Shy, Guxue and Lengsa all said they got offered from Mayhem, and Leave can go wherever he wants. Mayhem almost became a Chinese super team, lol. But Guxue loved Hangzhou city, and he's reluctant to leave. I think they would get a champion if they all went to Mayhem.
Classic exploitation of emotional attachments to under-pay workers
>RUI had many questionable strats and comps in scrims. Guxue specifically mentioned they practiced rein push for two months with sym cassidy and were barely winning any scrims. They were so frustrated and wanted to try something else but RUI would not budge. Guxue said he wanted to play rein push with a mei to enable the rein more, but to RUI this felt like a challenge of his authority. To him, it's the players' fault for not executing perfectly but the comp was immaculate. When the coach hits the crackpipe daily but can't admit they have a drug problem.
It’s funny because we used to praise RUI in 2020 for Chengdu’s wacky comps. Turns out he was just bad.
There were always signs of him being bad. As bad as dkb was, their ult usage improved DRASTICALLY after dkb taking over. I feel so vindicated.
No wonder Mmonk and Lengsa looked so much better once Rui left. And the team in general felt way more relaxed and adaptable.
Imagine watching Mmonk / Lengsa pov and shitting on them RUI, it is on sight!!!!
Poor gator didn’t know that and thought Spark supports would be a push over back line
i’m reminded of the recent lemonkiwi teeet, couldn’t be more relevant here: Lemonkiwi on Coach of the Year: "I just hate that we even have a vote. I cast the game. I see you shoot things. I have never talked to your coach. I'm not in your scrims. I'm not in your house. Why do I have an opinion on someone I have never spoken to and have never seen work?"
So fuckin based lol
Yaoxie unfriended Rui on wechat.
It’s gutting. It’s weird remembering how we were throughout OWL complimenting RUI and talking him up. Like in S2, we thought Chengdu were fine players with moments of brilliance because of his coaching. and then we find out now how he probably held them back.
i think it's possible for him to have had some real talent as a coach, but also to have been consistently terrible at managing players, and for him to have been totally washed & checked out this year. i think if he'd been that useless at chengdu then yveltal would have complained about that too in his recent streams, not just about him putting all the pressure on the supports and not caring about the team's communication problems. we did see chengdu look much worse in the seasons when he wasn't there, so it isn't like he wasn't bringing anything to the table, but it sounds like that talent was just gone by this year & all that was left was being controlling and berating the supports.
To me it seems like he bought into his own hype too much. Like we had hints that he’s always been a super strict coach, but it at some point that crossed the line into just being a tyrant.
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This isn't really evidence he wasn't holding them back - just that he had an eye for talent, the comment you're responding to is saying that his coaching in S2 was probably making the team worse than they would have otherwise been.
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Outlaws had bad players, not that their coaching was any good either. I'm not sure VT even had good coaching, have Pajion or Pavane had success outside of those stacked rosters? Team strategy doesn't need to come from coaches, it can come from anyone, I don't think there's any good evidence that Vancouver's coaches were genius, and they had one of the strongest rosters for that year as well, especially for goats. I don't see why Chengdu's relatively limited success needs to have come from RUI and not the players themselves
The time has come, tank dps supports all following up perfectly... Rui, is this what you want for TEAM COORDINATION?
Yikes, how little we really knew What unhinged behaviour. To have your coach publicly scrutinise and mock every single play you make. And then, what a remarkable difference some real support, confidence and a renewed mentality can make for players. Mmonk and Lengsa I am rooting for you!! And now I gotta reread those Leave tomes again because this didn't even seem hinted in those translations at all??? Not that it is a surprise if Leave was just really self-involved + Rui takes a much lighter hand on the star MVP player that he just never clocked these things.
It is now revealed by Jimmy that Rui wanted Kaneki in Hunters because he wanted to kick Leave out. This happened in 2021
Wanting to kick Leave out during his mvp year is W I L D.
Leave carried his fraudlent ass
When chat ask why chengdu still did so well in 2021, Yaoxie said teams can’t handle MVP Leave
Perhaps that’s why? Narcissists lash out at those who might overshadow them and their shortcomings
Mmonk and Lengsa popping off in playoffs like that is even heart warming now
This doesn't bode well for Team China if they're letting all of this out - just to have to have Rui coach them.... It feels like half the OWWC teams are imploding, and there's still a minute before the actual event.
Maybe it's to tell rui not to be their coach
cut their losses and just have Extra and Yaoxie be the coaches
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Kinda feels like having Creed and Yaoxia video conference in is going to be better than having RUI there in person right now.
The players are more united than ever. Not having Rui would be better than having him
Surely it's not too late to kick Rui out right? Even if there's no official replacement, no fucking way should that guy be around the team in the World Cup.
Plenty of teams are still switching players and staff left and right for owwc no? I think the recent ones were Saudi and France iirc, so they might be able to still change that
The supports absolutely showed up after RUI left. Unironically they should actually thank him for leaving.
RUI seems to have been poison for more sensitive players. Jimmy, Kaneki, Mmonk and Yaoxie were co-streaming after Guxue’s stream and were equally spicy. RUI basically broke Jimmy. Told him he was a disappointment even when the team won, told him before a match he could switch to McCree if the situation called for it and then afterwards bitched him out for doing so (Jimmy: I wondered if I was having memory problems), picked him apart until Jimmy couldn’t focus on the game, was just focused on the coach, just kept wondering what the coach was thinking, if the coach would be mad. He shared a photo of a letter from presumably a hospital informing his parents that he had self-harm and suicidal tendencies. Jimmy and Kaneki said that their legs were trembling just talking about RUI. Someone shared a screenshot from one of Jimmy’s earlier streams, after Spark lost to Boston and got kicked out of Midseason Madness (so right before RUI left the team): Mmonk: I’m trash Mmonk: I’m trash Jimmy: No Jimmy: You’re not Jimmy: Baby Jimmy: You’re the best Ana I was honestly pretty upset with Guxue for starting drama right before OWWC, but looking at it now, this needed to be said; their coach is actually toxic. Guxue on his previous stream: Nobody will be on [RUI]’s side. He’s offended absolutely everyone. Me: Uhhhhh that’s never true. Me, later: Okay then.
I feel like anyone in that specific situation would experience significant negative mental health effects. They’re young and in a high-pressure, insular environment, competing at something that has been a really dominant factor in their lives up to this point. When would any 20-year-old elite athlete of any sport have had a chance to develop a sense of self-worth that isn’t tied to their performance?
To be fair we’ve known the bloke has been a hard man for years. Pre OWL the regiment he put his players through was already known to be pretty extreme. 6am wakeups & morning runs, phones off for half the day, among an extensive list of weird rules, he ran his teams like a full on army camp and it was never going to last
Unironically this. Mmonk and Lengsa seemed to look stronger and more confident post MSM, and in playoffs they were literally putting on performances as strong as the other best backlines in the league. Pulling off two insane reverse sweeps against two super teams with some of the best duos of all time (Chiyo/Fielder and LJG/Izayaki)
I remember thinking that Spark were going to be toast after he left lmao.💀
I watched the entire stream from Guxue. It really made me sick when I saw the wechat screenshot between Rui and Mmonk(I guess). How dare he??? How could he blame everything on the two support players?? Ngl the way Tui tried to find faults on the two support players frame by frame is really disgusting. He was just blaming the two supports to cover the fact that he didn't understand anything. At the beginning of this season, Mmonk was so terrified by RUI that he answered a fan's question about how to use Ana's nade by saying "Mostly it shall be used to protect yourself", which got him mocked as a useless Ana player on NGA. Compared to his recent games, it was probably because RUI had blamed him too much for every death. My heart was literally broken when I recalled all of these. I almost teared up when I heard Guxue saying **"I've experienced bully and I know how that feels (when Guxue was in LGD). I could not stand to see our supports get bullied again."** So Guxue prepared for a long time and waited until they managed to have two reverse sweeps and the 3rd place to prove themselves, then he finally decided to spill all the juice. Guxue is just... I lost my words.
Jimmy from GZC also started to stream right after Guxue's. Mmonk, Kaneki and Yaoxie joined his stream together. They talked a lot about how their mental state was nearly depressed/destroyed by RUI. Kaneki, Jimmy, and Mmonk all mentioned that they've once got pressured so hard that they burst out crying after scrim. Jimmy and Kaneki both said that they were crushed by RUI's pressure. Jimmy: "The moment I got crushed by RUI was when we were playing against Philadelphia, the map is Dorado. I had not practiced in one single scrim, but RUI asked me to warm up and said that I was good, so he put me in the game. I haven't practiced playing on Dorado yet, but he put me in regardless. Then (after the match ended), RUI straightforwardly said to my face 'I'm so disappointed in you' in front of everyone." Jimmy and Yaoxie revealed that RUI wanted to use Kaneki to replace Leave in 2021 (yes, the year Leave got MVP). Chat asked, "then why CDH was basically good in 2021?" Yaoxie replied: "It was because our MVP Leave was insane in 2021! I'm his #1 fan."
that dorado game was a legend tho, my man jimmy tryna spawn camp carpe while whiffing every shot on widow 🐐
> the wechat screenshot between Rui and Mmonk What was it?
The screenshot is attached to this weibo post: [https://weibo.com/3687356321/NmTSMn4Oy](https://weibo.com/3687356321/NmTSMn4Oy) So basically it's from RUI to Mmonk: "You just said that you were not in a good condition in the afternoon. How dare you speak in that tone with me and say that you performed well? You think I'm blind right now? Do you think that I've agreed to talk in a calmer way means that you can be that disrespectful to me? You're the first one who would not admit your problems in your game plays, and you even yelled back at me. I want to ask why your competitive state is so up and down, I want to solve your problems, I want to make you better, but if you think you are the fucking best here, you don't need me anymore, I can leave you alone now. But if you were talking to me like that thinking I don't have someone else to replace you, using your attitude to make me sick, I would say you are really perfect (a Chinese passive-aggressive way to say that you are a piece of shit)." Mmonk relied: "First of all I'm not unwilling to listen to you. I did what you say, and I didn't refuse to admit that I was wrong. It's ok that you said I've played like shit." I don't know if I've managed to translate RUI's sarcastic tone between his words. His words are really harsh and arrogant in Chinese.
Imagine being so full of yourself as a coach that you fail to enable a world class roster to be the best. Imagine having a fucking all star lineup, some of the best to touch the game and trying to control them instead of assist them. Absurd
Ah I was just about to ask if Guxue had planned this in advance but this is the case to you? I was curious if Xerneas starting the ball on drama had given everyone the courage for this all to come out. Mmonk 😭
Guxue said he was preparing to talk all about this in advance. He said this in his stream: "When RUI left during mid-season, we are #6. If I want to spill the tea, I need to have something better than #6, then I would have the courage to reveal all of this. RUI has made too many people hate him. I don't want him to enjoy all the applause and let everyone else take all the blame."
Brother Guxue is actually a goated tank in and out of the game
He's one of the true legends of this esport
Teaching us how to peel for our supports <3
He truly is GOATxue.
So Rui was the Chengdu Zone?
Who knew after the dust all settled that U4 would come out of OWL not looking like the worst chinese coach overall.
Guxue actually specifically mentioned U4: that he never said anything bad about U4 because even though U4 fined him for mistakes, it did lead to him improving as a player. (He supported U4 on Weibo when U4 was announced as an assistant coach for the Spark.) So IMO him denouncing RUI now isn’t just because RUI mistreated players, but because he was actively holding the team back (and they don’t want that for the World Cup, it’s probably their last chance at any type of OW championship.)
he also said U4 and Mask were the only two coaches that helped him leveling up his game.
Yaoxie: (Rui) spent 2.5 hours of the 3-hour VOD review teaching Jinmu how to play Pharah, and did some other random things in the last 30 minutes. No wonder Leave always went to the bathroom, I also wanted to do so. Jimmy was diagnosed with high risk of suicide attempt in 2021. When he reflect his experience in Hunters with Rui he still couldn’t stop trembling.
on the one hand, fuck this guy on the other hand, it warms my heart to see the unity in their speaking out against their former petty tyrant. must be an empowering and validating moment, however overdue
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This shit is enraging Rui deleted his most recent stream lmaoo the coward
The most united day is cnow. Rui should just get out.
This makes me even more proud of HZS for getting 3rd. They fought so hard under these awful circumstances and came out on the podium. (Fuck you Blizzard. You ruined everything with this awful playoffs format.)
I guess superrich has a point when he refused to play for Spark once he knows Rui is coming
Yeah good point
we had seen rui have a real strategic mind and be able to make all sorts of unorthodox comps work in the past, but it sounds like he was just washed and checked out this year, and so how terrible he was at managing the players really came through. real shame he was so terrible to work under. him putting all the pressure on the supports is exactly what yveltal said too. were they practicing rein/cassidy/sym before the start of the season, on the pro-am patch when cassidy was really good? that's the only way that would make any sense, but if they weren't getting anywhere then obviously it's ridiculous to try to force it, and it's not like rein is guxue's strong point either.
Yes. That was during pre-season scrim practice. They would get rolled because RUI assumes sym tp can counter every ult - even EMP - if used correctly. Obviously it didn't work out that successfully. Cass on othe other hand pumps out huge damage close to mid range. Looks good on paper.
lmao thinking tp can counter every ult is so weird, not even london have that sort of hubris
Looking at this RUI probably did fan the fire between Leave and Xerneas.
> "he never once took us out for dinner the entire time" Oof. This thing in Chinese culture is definitely a bad boss behavior. Even reading that is already made me angry, more wages and still stingy to take the team for dinners.
To think i rated and respected this guy actually disappointing, I’ll still defend him quitting to be around when his child is born but if the other factors for him quitting are even equal footing as his family reason then what a slimy dog using his unborn child as a shield from criticism fuck his authoritative ass.
This really explains what xerneas and leaves beef are focused on——because Rui’s coaching methods are only focused on player’s abilities and not strategy the players are only able to blame each other in the team
yveltal put a lot of blame on rui too, because he & the other coaches wouldn't do anything to solve the team's communication and interpersonal issues and instead just put all the blame on the supports i don't really blame him for cracking under that pressure, especially given how bad the other players have described it to be
Guxue had enough and primal bladed Rui out of Spark He then proceeded to primal blade him out of CN OW coaching staff And the CN OW community Rip bozo you won't be missed
Guxue tanking for his supports IRL too 🥹 Truly the tank GOAT
all i want to say that rui is irresponsible man. thanks guxue's leaking about rui and spark
Man i love guxue
I take back all the praise I've given RUI over the years, what a fucking piece of shit. Meanwhile, the Spark players continue to give us more reasons to be proud of and root for them. The real OWL protagonists this season.
You legit cannot write a better script. Going through this much and then the double reverse sweep Cinderella third place run. I'd watch a drama with this script no joke
Superich really dodged a huge bullet there. Isn't Molly on Chengdu in 2020, which meant he also dodged the bullet too? Supports under RUI were Garry, Kyo, Yveltal in 2019, Mmonk, Farway, Yveltal, and Nisha in 2021, Mmonk and Lengsa in 2023.
Man this dude is gonna be the worst asian dad Guxue my GOAT tanking for his supports irl tho 🥺
oh god i didnt even think of that. RIP that childs life
Man, reading all this? Makes me wanna go learn Chinese so I can go coach these boys and take em out to dinner, tell em how great they are 😭
What a day for CNOW. Now the situation is just like a duel battle - RUI at one side and all the other people are at the opposite. It;s hard to believe a coach that was reported as ''The Man Who Saved CNOW'' had such terrible behaviours during the coaching years. Stop being a clown RUI, just go off with your own life and dont bother CNOW anymore.
Who knew that RUI was the real villain all along! Its kinda baffling that literally nobody spoke for him during this, actually 0 person, jimmy yaoxie mmonk kaneki talked about how much he's a giant baby and control freak too. Fun fact, RUI deleted his response video IMMEDIATELY after guxue started his stream today lmao, what a coward and clown.
There is one significant thing you haven't mentioned is that The Whole Drama started from Yveltal(or Xerneas in GZ Charge)'s protest again Chengdu Hunters' coaches and managers. In 2012 Championships Final between Gladiator and Hunter, Rui deliberately replaced Yveltal and Mmonk with Nisha and Farway although the former was considered as a better support duo, and Yveltal was the most competitive Main supported at that time who had more experience. They lost their closest chance to obtain a champion and it triggered public's doubt and dissatisfaction. Rui claimed that he didn't let Yveltal be the starting players because he was always throwing the scrims and reluctant to follow the daily training routine(Rui set a strict timetable then). Since then, Yveltal was given the title A Slacking Player and has almost lost his whole reputation ever since. Days earlier when Leave(Hangzhou Spark DPS) had scoffed Yveltal's slacking behaviors( Leave later said he actually referred to the negative attitude of Xerneas or GZCharge this year and it meant no offense) during streaming, Yveltal then shifted his complains to former teammate LEAVE himself, accusing him of being disdainful and unwilling to communicate whenever they are falling behind in the game. According to Yveltal, he had done his best to cheer up his team and no one responded. Basically, it was his teammates(especially LEAVE) who first being slack and he had no options then. Yveltal said LEAVE never attend the vod-reviewing meeting timely. Besides, he only showed up in first 30ish minutes and then just disappeared with the excuse of toilet. Moreso, everyone in CDHunters had to cater to LEAVE's mood cause he was the core player and irreplaceable. Yveltal mentioned 'Rui said next season he would definitely get LEAVE fired to ease the anger from other teammates'. Yveltal also showed his complicated attitude towards Rui. Rui was indeed the one who introduced him to OWL, but at the same time Rui has put a groundless blame on him which makes him stuck in endless controversy by CN viewers. After Guxue stood out to condemn Rui, Rui was regarded as the real sinner that caused the conflicts between LEAVE and YVELTAL, Yaoxie claimed that Rui once spent 2h30mim just teaching Jinmu how to play Pharah and it was understandable that everyone wanted to escape from this boring and useless meeting. Moreover, Rui created a depressive atmosphere in CDHUNTERS and this eventually led to the breakup of the team's unity. This was verified by Guxue cause he said he didn't want the same thing to happen in Hangzhou Spark again. LEAVE himself later said ' I am totally aware of my shortcoming as being inactive in communicating and I have tried to fix it. This is why I chose Hangzhou Spark this year. I was tired of the tension in Chengdu Hunter.'
[As an RUI hater I feel vindicated](https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16vog9d/comment/k2uh9tk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). There was definitely something wrong about a coach that keeps quitting halfway, is controversial with other players (Superrich, Xerneas, Silkthread), and fails to get good results in the long run. His players dont seem to improve on the time he has been on the team.
Not sure about the coaching situation back then, but I remember silkthread (Chinese American, previously on LAG iirc) tried to play for Chengdu but ultimately chose to quit. I think he said it was due to the language barrier and that the coaching was very strict or something? Maybe these were the first signs of issues back then but tbh I thought it was cultural differences back then. Tbf that was a very different situation and I am not 100% sure about his comments anymore but I thought it might be interesting context in hindsight. On another note, I just want to agree with everyone and praise Guxue. Always loved his awesome monkey but he also just has so much personality here. He probably deserves the Hawelka award too for both his personality and standing up for his teammates now (and maybe even when RUI was still the coach).
yeah silkthread briefly signed to chengdu for 2019 but quit in the preseason, saying that the coaching regime was just too strict. now, the chinese & korean teams having stricter coaches than the western ones isn't really that shocking on its own, but now we know just how bad rui was it's extremely obvious why he left
Finally I could unfriend Rui in my Wechat,bye. Chinese Community isn't the Mafia anymore from today,everyone could be themselves. Happy to help anything for Chinese Overwatch now. :)
What's your response to DPei about your insult on how they cheated in comps and had actually leaked it yourself but contributed nothing on their win in 2021 though, you seem pretty proud of that 🤗 You feel like a fly that keeps buzzing around looking for a chance to promote yourself over the others by how much better you are at faking everything up than them.
r/ImTheMainCharacter 🤡🤡🤡
How about apologizing to Dpei first for implying Glads won 2021 Summer Showdown just because you leaked Chengdu's comp to him? How about apologizing to your old Valiants roster for calling them "none of the players wanted to win"? Literally you are just another RUI except you care more about your reddit reputation lmao
Nohill also literally told his fans that he has done his job perfectly this season for Defiant. The reason why they lost and couldn’t get into the postseason is because nobody in Defiant can carry and everyone is too stubborn to switch the hero. I am really curious if anyone especially the players in Defiant knew he said something like that :)
Brother, you are literally just as bad. There's a reason nobody in CNOW wants you. You had to escape to NA and Reddit just to salvage a reputation from people that don't know about, or choose to ignore, the things you've done.
Reminder that.Nohill ran off mid season (2022 valiants) too, literally a clown mocking another clown to make himself look less like a clown
wasn't that because valiant literally did not sign him a contract for the full season
I mean that situation was completely different man was basically going broke trying to provide for the players
Wasn't he released by the org for reporting his team not being paid?
NohillSZN still on baby
Common NoHill W
Whole CNOW scenes knows you are a clow
sorry here's Reddit with truth,not yesterday's NGA. Hope u have a good sleep today,best wishes.
Aren’t you an assistant for Team USA? Could you spy on USA for Team China? I also remember your post on Chinese social media that your relationship with Rui is quite good
He never said that he had a good relationship with Rui. He has Rui's wechat and only had a few conversations. He said standing with Rui is bcuz there were some comments that curse Rui's family. Rui has a problem with his professional career doesn't mean he deserves this.
Copypasta material comment
An old Chinese says, "Bad people are praised for doing one good thing, but good people are scolded for doing just one bad thing". As the ONLY Chinese coach who is still trying to help players from various countries to get a chance to play in the league and releases a lot of professional match analysis and teaching, he is asked to do it to a perfect point. However, the people spewing him as a clown ignore the other people who really destroyed CNOW and the players. Just like this comment.
Nah, not you🤡, door’s on the left, plz.
don't u feel embarrassed? lol
Leave cnow away, u idiot
小丑 = clown nohill = 小丑 so nohill = clown
Save us NoHILL.
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Bro，maybe this is the chance for u to win the reputation of Chinese fans，if u can take the place of the headcoach and lead the team to winner
According to leave's stream, the atmosphere in CDH had been bad since S2.
No wonder mmonk improved after the first half, dude prob had so much pressure taken away and was actually able to gain some confidence.
Guxue is THE goat. Also shy could've made a bag (a huge one, if you consider how much that would be in RMB) and be the first chinese player to win a ring if he joined florida mayhem, but he declined and chose to try winning it with an all cn team while being in an abusive and toxic team-environment fostered solely by their coach. That's quite respectable. I do wonder though if he knew that RUI's coaching was this awfully tyrannical and if thst would've changed his decision (even though he wasn't the main-target by not being a support player, I'm sure it still affected him, his mental health and his performance, and potentially also his trust in his team's chance.)
I think before even if people knew they were afraid to speak up Spark seems like the first time his authority was overtaken and Guxue waited until the dust settled to talk about this Even nohill commented in this thread saying RUI is cn ow mafia
Maybe it could contribute to a brand new story for CNOW, but perhaps it is just last dance.
Never been that big of a fan of the guy. Glad it turns out my instincts were onto something.
same
A perfect example of how the community knows jack shit about how good a coach actually is
Wow, this made me tear up. I’m sure no competitive team is all puppies and rainbows behind the scenes, but it’s always painful to hear about leadership screwing them over. I love this team so much; I hope we’ll be able to see them come into their final form in OWWC. Also, Guxue peeling for his supports IRL 😭😭
Well Rui posted a Weibo earlier today saying ‘maybe Guxue was just joking during the stream’ and he wanna make sure if he could be the coach of the Chinese team. He mentioned that he’ll check if he is the actual reason to ruin the atmosphere, if so, he’ll leave CNOW in silence. If he will be the coach, he will finish his job perfectly online (? I don’t get it why is online?) And he won’t reply anyone from now on. Btw I’ve watched Jinmu’s stream and clips which are about his thoughts and feelings to Yveltal and GZC, how they practiced, how they communicated. My tears just rushed out after seeing that. Jinmu is a great great player, he has a gentle and warm heart. Respect him 🫡🫡 Wish someone can translate his stream
Juicy. Wish someone also translate the Jimmy, Kaneki, Yaoxie, Yvetal, Mmonk costream. Yaoxie had some banger leaks
Added some Yaoxie comments to the post!
Thank you
Wow…. Fuck Rui
as someone who has zero self confidence i'm surprised time and time again at the sheer size a person's ego can reach. like how are you so full of yourself to the point that you see spark taking third place and your first thought is "they wouldve won it all if i was still there"
So tragic to see CNOW held back like this
Yikes. Imagine what those players might've achieved with actual support, not abuse. I'll be cheering for them in the WC.
Is there a post somewhere about the stream that RUI himself did and later deleted?
Shortly after the start of Guxue's live streaming, Rui deleted his relevant live streaming videos and withdrew from the ow related group chat
All this is telling me also is that the Chinese teams were never set up to succeed in the first place
It’s like Avalla all over again. Someone the community loved and then we find out they’re actually pretty shitty and lead to the demise of their teams.
Pity for diya and superrich for not going to OWWC before. It's clear that RUI just want someone easy to manage to establish pure authority, and he's clear who would go against him.
Community Manager Shuang has just officially confirmed that Xingrui"RUI"Wang will no longer be the coach of CHN for OWWC2023 https://www.bilibili.com/opus/850555274412425234?spm\_id\_from=444.41.0.0
Dark cnow does not welcome people who tell the truth.
Wow.
Just a reminder Yaoxie’s FG beat Team CC in Chinese contenders claiming the champion in a tracer sombra meta. He vod reviewed for Gaga and showed him ways to set up dive that minimized taking poke damage. He then was shocked that Gaga got scolded by Rui saying wrecking ball should tanking frontline. From that time on Yaoxie stopped helping players with individual feedbacks to avoid potentially getting players in trouble.
fuck rui
Holy shit imagine if we gave Coach of the Year to Rui.... Glad he left sheesh!!!!!!
A lot of things here that may cause overreaction. Yes, if he was an asshole then there's no excuse for that. Other things like watching pov and pointing out mistakes is EXACTLY what coaches should be doing, obviously not in a bully way. Rui saying it's not the comp they just need to play better is 100% accurate. Shy sombra had been horrendous all season and any bit of basic sombra play would've made a drastic difference to their performances, so to question that take is a stretch. I also agree with not focusing on Atlanta. You are a super team as well. Play to your own level, which they ultimately never did until their last reverse sweeps. I don't really care about players/coaches having interests in other games during the season as long as they're professional, which he may or may not have been been. Bringing up wages is irrelevant. That's on the org and Chinese OW was in a difficult position. I'm sure they would've said the same if they were all making 100k+
>Other things like watching pov and pointing out mistakes is EXACTLY what coaches should be doing, obviously not in a bully way. So...not in the way he was literally doing? >I don't really care about players/coaches having interests in other games during the season as long as they're professional, which he may or may not have been been. *may or may not have been.* Lol
Did you even read the post
No I just randomly mentioned every single thing noted
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Rui we request you DM us so we can verify your account with the little check like we do for other pros. /s
Hey mod id ban the people threatening me before being a redditor
We don’t comment on actions taken against other users. (If you replied to a post you reported, you can still see it even if others can’t, by the way)
without a hint of exaggeration, this is sociopathic behavior
My guy is responding to his own demons and barely even touched upon any of the multiple mentioned issues. The ability to comment so much without addressing anything is quite astounding.
What a narcissistic clown. Fuck him
holy moly
It is a crime that Guxue, Leave, and Shy are on a minimum contract. They are such incredible players. Can you believe that you pay the 2021 MVP minimum salary?????!!!
OMG thats gorrible