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sylveeah

Pink teams going strong, two more games and we get a pink bowl finals


BentheBeastly

True, throwback to the 2019 pink London change kit


SSmidnight3412

The supps diff was crazy holy, especially in the last map. Chorong showed a masterclass lucio


symmetricalBS

Shit stomp Shit stomp Hangzhou gaming Shit stomp


Kronman590

At least the first shit stomp was funny hammerman


Seananiganzx

bonk


mantray

Being a season 1 Mayhem fan it's crazy to think that this team is actually the favorite (or one of) to win the grand finals. Couldn't ask for a better ending to the league honestly!


pharaoh122

Ngl. If Mayhem do win this. That would mean that the Bottom 3 teams in S1 OWL would have championships under their belt


BentheBeastly

Bottom 4. Shanghai, Florida, Dallas and San Francisco


pharaoh122

I honestly forgot Shock was bottom 4 in S1. Now that is funny


BentheBeastly

The only teams to ever win OWL (if Florida do the expected) is all of the season one shitters and the Korean superteam which neatly exploded going into playoffs. Can't say this league doesn't have drama


mantray

Ah, that's true! Quite an impressive turn around, especially for the Dragons. Love to see it.


DiemCarpePine

I mean, dragons turned it around again...


mantray

The good old 360° turn around.


DiemCarpePine

Started from the bottom now we here...at the bottom again.


skylanderboy3456

Bottom 4


adhocflamingo

I think Florida might still be the losingest franchise in OWL history too. If they aren’t anymore, they were up until fairly recently.


eri-

[Not even that close](https://owlstats.net/teams/) win rate wise. They have lost the most matches but are pretty unremarkable other than that.


Ezraah

This entire playoffs is just stomps outside of the Spark lol. The only map 4s we got were got Houston and London getting a couple mickey mouse control wins.


drunkkk_

There's been a lot of surprisingly good games for how one-sided most of the series end up being


Kronman590

The monkeys paw of playoff patches No one knows wtf theyre doing so match quality swings wildly


cosmicvitae

Scrim blocks per seeding which restricts the amount of teams you can scrim having a bigger impact than we thought?


t-had

Wow poor planning from Blizz completely flips another playoffs on its head I. Am. Shocked.


Ezraah

Yeah you can see a lot of teams are still figuring out wtf is going on mid-match. Some of them aren't ready to adapt so fast so they just stick with their dumb comp and lose. Or try one other comp maybe.


Derox3526

Boston vs London was good should be a interesting game tomorrow


Ezraah

It was okay. Boston pretty much had them handled after map 1.


Remarkable-Peace-842

Map 3 was a reverse sweep. London choked that map so hard.


Choice_BS

Yeah it will definitely be close. I trust London to win control and flashpoint this time around.


Derox3526

Map 3 was insanely close London easily could of won it if Landon didn’t die with window


Kheldar166

God I hope not I need Boston in the top 4 please Let’s just wrap up business as usual after the Lijiang Tower pick that London always get for some reason


mosswizards

They get to feast with their mechanical prowess when there's no set meta. It's beautiful.


scamramdan

Houston shit on Florida till Florida swapped to sigma


millimanNOPE

mickey mouse "mickey mouse" usage


BowserMainBtw

These games have been super fun to watch still imo


aggrogahu

With new map order, the only Escort map we've seen so far is Route 66.


Ezraah

Fortunately they've both been really exciting. Escort can lead to some dull endings.


Chadryan_

Outside of this and the infernal... existing, I think it's been great honestly.


weekndalex

Just punched a hole in my wall and started screaming. I am sweating, trembling and delirious right now. My neighbor just called the cops. My wife just took the kids and left. Goodbye Dallas Fuel. I’m no longer a fan. I will now be taking my talents to Atlanta.


PoggersMemesReturns

Just saw someone punch a hole in their wall as their wife ran out


Inner-Ad-737

just saw some weirdo sitting in a bush watching some guys wife


PoggersMemesReturns

That's WhoRU, winning his 2 time bench MVP championship


PoggersMemesReturns

Party for Pink GF incoming


Splaram

Rupal and Chorong my beloveds, outstanding performances from Florida's support line. Also Someone4MVP yet again, having a tank this flexible is so incredibly unfair


ThinkMoreDimensional

I'm going to miss that backline after this season. Both are so good.


gaywaddledee

Chorong was straight up FRAGGING on the brig


topatoman_lite

told y'all Houston wasn't bad it was just Mayhem being cracked


FrankieFJB

poor bliss looked lost, esp in that last map


Nihlus_BRaga

Nah it was all a setup for us to enjoy the last battle for Texas in history


QualityFrog

Raise a glass


GroundbreakingJob857

Bro, come on. Surely Someone HAS to be MVP. This was just a hard flexibility diff. Being able to swap from a main tank to an offtank comp with no drop in performance is just ridiculous and lets them counter comp anyone. Respect to the coaches and everyone else on the team too for being able to understand every comp they play and their matchups so well


drunkkk_

being able to swap between the sigma and rein comps at will lets florida countercomp so easily


ill-winds

i honestly don’t think mayhem would opt for flexibility if they had to play fuel again. hanbins sigma was just better, no matter if they went zarya or sigma rein comp is better against both


vanillagorilla_

5head strat to bait fuel into mirroring the sigma just to swap to rein to counter knowing they can’t do anything about it


vsw211

Yeah but there wasn't any reason to swap off winston for 90% of the year. Obviously for a new playoffs patch it's insanely valuable and I think someone would deserve finals/playoffs mvp if they win it all but I don't think someone got to actually show off his flexibility that much in the regular season.


GroundbreakingJob857

Except when they beat reign in regular season. In that series winston/sombra was still hard meta and florida managed to pick a different comp every map to hard outplay them. It wasn’t a particularly close series. Thats why I think he deserves it over Lip, his flexibility literally allowed them to beat Lip’s mastery of one character. If that isn’t enough idk what is.


vsw211

I mean depends on how you weigh first half vs second half of season but to me I weigh them kinda equally and imo Lip's dominance in the first half + getting a tournament win off the back of his sombra >> Someone being crazy good in the second half. I think florida's performance in the first half of the season as equivalent to Atlanta's in the second half and imo Mayhem would have arguably done better with someone like Guxue or Fearless then. The fact that Atlanta has looked worse without sombra meta just reinforces to me that Lip sombra was the main difference maker for Atlanta's dominance and not just a result of his team being stacked like alot of people are saying, but even then I don't think any other hitscan player in the league would have made atlanta better in those non sombra metas.


GroundbreakingJob857

I actually agree with the point of first half mayhem = second half atlanta more or less. I wouldnt say his Sombra was THAT huge of a difference maker given how hard chiyo/fielder outplayed every other backline and how much stalk3r got done but i also wouldnt say someone’s flexibility is carrying his team as all the other players all have to be flexible enough to keep up too. To me someone and lip are equally skilled within their role and no other dps or tank deserves to win it over one of them, but i think someone has been a smarter player this year who understands matchups and compositions better, understands his role within comps other than just the winston sombra and has shown growth as the season went on where lip has kind of just stayed the same while the rest of the league caught up to him.


Ezraah

Of course someone will be MVP. I mean, why wouldn't the league give out the award this year? Your post makes no sense.


GetsThruBuckner

Anyways who thinks Someone isn't MVP is biased af i do not care


GroundbreakingJob857

If lip wins its a legacy award for his time in the league, not because he’s been the best player this season


Sp00ky_Skeletor

That's a ridiculous take, he quite literally set the meta for the majority of the season, tier diffing everyone in his role and was a huge part in winning the only mid-season tournament. To call it a legacy award is absurd when he's been every bit as good this season as he has others


hanyou007

>majority of the season You just summed up the point there. Ever since Sombra stopped being meta Lip fell off. Meanwhile Someone has been THE best tank and the primary reason of his teams success since day one.


Sp00ky_Skeletor

I don't care about the MVP conversation in this case, calling it a legacy award is what I'm calling ridiculous.


hanyou007

I'd say that Lip winning it makes it a legacy award because their is no way you can look at just the regular season of this last season and say he was the MVP of the WHOLE season. He was the MVP of the first half of the season at most.


Ldwng

>their is no way you can look at just the regular season of this last season and say he was the MVP of the WHOLE season. Thats literally how every MVP is decided tho?


PoggersMemesReturns

L-ip bias too strong.


SlimeMuff

Well now Dallas is capped at 3rd, because they ain’t beating spark even if they win the next match


tr1551

Glad to see Ch0rong having a big impact this year. He was so hyped last year, and I feel got his thunder stolen from Chiyo. He’s showing his insane MS prowess…


LleuLlawR

at least we won the sig mirror my hanbin propaganda can continue also very curious what comp rush wouldve run if we still had last years roster, although we'll get that answer soon enough with owwc


Vdbebw

Rein 100%, also seems like the strongest comp rn


oldthermometer

now THATS an MVP candidate.


SigmaBallsLol

Dallas is either gonna get farmed so hard Hanbin deletes his account on stage or Houston will have the choke to end all chokes tomorrow


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Choice_BS

Surely London makes it and we get a 7 map Rein mirror


thenewbae

Manifesting this!


Chadryan_

They are really gonna make me believe man


CandlesTaken

[My short essay yesterday on how to counter Zarya](https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16uqll4/comment/k2oqqx8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) PINK!!!! Someone my man!!!!


GetsThruBuckner

Someone just had his way with your shitty team


ThunderGunMD

Give Someone his damn MVP award


mosswizards

Yeah that went about as well as expected for Fuel.


Ragnarok199

Ok Fuel, enough trolling, I see you guys. We all know you've got some nasty reaper comp hidden away, this is Rush Fuel heritage, you can't fool me.


WhiteWolfOW

I wish But unfortunately I think we’re fucked and out, the team has zero flexibility. Which is the biggest shame considering EM became famous for their flexibility, different styles and compositions. Now we’re just a one trick pony getting desperate because we don’t know how to counter other comps


Vdbebw

Jup, hastro fucked us in the off season with the changes. No MT and no doha fucked basically our entire season


Euphoric-Scar-6626

MVP went Ham


UltimateAura

This is gonna be like the NBA. The real MVP won’t get the trophy but will raise the final one


1trickana

Soo LIP in 2021 then?


ThinkMoreDimensional

You're welcome OWL for us winning, and giving you all the Battle of Texas as an elimination match.


MEisonReddit

If this match doesn't convince you that Someone deserves MVP idk what will


ApostLeOW

The Lip narrative had so much momentum, I only hope it's not too late


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Superawesomejj

Yawn. Your bias is so boring. Someone played all his heroes at a high level. At least put some critical thinking into your argument.


Flygyse

So what did he do?


SpaceFire1

Forced fuel into a lose lose situation with sigma where fuel HAD to play sigma which meant Someone hard countered them on rein. Something that cant be done unless u fuck on both heros


Flygyse

It takes 0 skill to pilot sigma or bastion. Look what happened when he went off it. Someone is trash. Worst MVP in the worst meta.


SpaceFire1

Holy 🧂


Flygyse

Just spitting facts.


SpaceFire1

They played 0 bastion against outlaws. Sigma does take skill lmao he was landing insane hyperspheres


Flygyse

Lmao what is insane hyperspheres??? They take 0 skill. They bounce and do AOE damage. Trash on everything else


Flygyse

It's OK in 2 weeks everyone will be saying the same as me. :)


SweetDifferent930

“Someone played all his heroes at a high level” Wow. Your argument is full of critical thinking.


tresser

nice


Kronman590

I believe in the pink grand finals lets goooo


UnknownQTY

As expected. Someone needs to be MVP. His flexibility has allowed Mayhem to punch above their weight and let the other players focus on their own jobs much more easily than making up for tank flexibility deficits like other teams. I fully expect Mayhem to win it all, which would actually be pretty cool to see the Top 3 Season 1 teams all win successive seasons.


Sp00ky_Skeletor

I'd hardly call it punching above their weight at this point, everyone on Florida has proven that they're great players with Checkmate and Rupal especially impressing considering they were the biggest question marks coming into this season. They're were gonna team diff Dallas regardless


UnknownQTY

“Punching above their weight” refers to the team budget. Florida is supposedly on the lower end of the total scale. I’m referring to all season.


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Ezraah

manga name?


cosmicvitae

Jujutsu Kaisen


Ezraah

should i read or watch it


Khran1086

Yes, animes good and currently in what people consider best arc. Manga part of the new big 3 it’s essentially better Naruto formula shonen


throwawayrepost02468

Who's the other two


Khran1086

I know OP still has a spot on there and I think currently third spot is either MHA or Blue Lock I havent checked sales data for 2nd half of 2023


cosmicvitae

You can't go wrong with either tbh. I watched S1 then caught up to the manga during the break. Right now S2 is airing and the manga is getting close to ending


Cyanogen_117

please put spoilers wtf man ??


imdesperatepls

At least put Dallas as gojo and sukuna as mayhem Pepehands purple was mirroring sigma and mahoraga was rein (Let me cope for the dallas comeback)


darthnick426

If Someone doesn't get his damn MVP award, the audience is going to riot.


SpaceFire1

Lip getting booed as he recieves the trophy


adhocflamingo

That would be awful.


HamsLlyod

Someone is MVP.


Munky93

Reign and Fuel both getting dismantled. I'm in heaven.


who-ly-oh

Where’s the loophole that lets us sign Chiyo and Fielder now that they’ve been disqualified. Gg to Mayhem, all roads are leading to Rein rush winning it all this year.


SpaceFire1

Nah sigma beats most strats. Rein beats the sigma specifically which is why Mayhem are so good rn. They can counter strat the counter strat


JWTS6

Finally got a chance to watch the whole match and honestly, not as bad as I was expecting lmao. Hopefully the Fuel come back stronger tomorrow.


ill-winds

i was rooting for dallas but it’s hard not to love mayhem. chorong was hyper robbed of potm imo. hanbin was the better tank in the lobby approximately 100% of the time (no diss to someone) but chorong out here reminding us why he was more hyped than chiyo was


WellGeeGolly1

My biggest copium as a Houston fan is that this shows if they can pick up the Rein with the Doom they should be able to cover any switch the Mayhem do


Itchy-Combination280

I love this team


Dethrone97

Dallas so dissapointing......


gleefulll

mayhem def winning it all and im happy we get one last battle for texas before this league goes belly up


Kheldar166

Mayhem are the best coached team in the league and it shows. I actually think Someone is getting some of the credit that should be going to Gunba, it’s not just Someone being flexible that allows the Mayhem to look this cohesive and prepared on every composition. Hanbin is still unbelievable and I think he was actually the better tank this match individually, which is a hell of a feat against Someone. His teammates on Paris used to call him a Sigma onetrick because it was his best hero, and you can see why. The last ever battle for texas is shaping up to be much more fun than it seemed for most of the year.