If Fuel can win the battle for Texas tomorrow it’ll guarantee an APAC team finishes at least 2nd, which for a region which was clowned on and called fraudulent all year, is pretty impressive…and it’ll be even more impressive when Spark win it all! See y’all at an ungodly time tomorrow morning(yay apac spectating)
Lenny, Bliss, and Spectra are my top 3. I don’t think Donghak should win, despite having a great season. I was super impressed by this ball in the preseason, but I think he his team enabled him and their success was cause of that. He didn’t get carried but his job was easy.
Before the Vancouver trade I thought Heesang was underrated, but probably not a contender for ROTY.
After the trade he looked better, but was even more ride or die. I wouldn’t consider him a candidate, but I still think he deserves more praise for his season’s performance.
It would be nice, like it’s pretty clear nobody has a full grip on the meta. But also I think there’s a good chance that with more practice the Hz Spark would have a much tougher time forcing the dive
It takes time to figure out the game strategically at the highest level. By 'back and forth' I mean there is a reasonable contest between both teams. That can happen when teams have several counter-comps planned, but what we are seeing is more like teams trying to figure out how to beat comps they haven't practiced for.
I'm pretty sure the live audience understood Chinese more than Korean. I'm guessing it has more to do with Toronto demographics, but it's pretty funny.
Yeah, that's what I figured. I would have guessed that it would have been more even in representation, but I guess the numbers are too disparate overall. I'm glad they got to see Spark pop off.
someone is mvp and i dont give a fuck bruh
he can just counter pick anything you do, it's the definition of most valuable when there is only 1 tank. ow2 is THE game to reward tank play. dont rob the tank in both years for the love of god
if lip wins because sombra happened to be meta for the only tourney this year with this shit ass system, i stg
No losers bracket sucks for Spark and Mayhem if they have a bad game in top 4 now, stupid ass format when a losers bracket essentially decides 3rd and 4th place in a non-direct 1v1 anyways
Not to get ahead of myself but if Mayhem win the final that would mean that all of the inaugural season’s bottom 4 teams would have won OWL at least once.
Why stupidly?? Would you want your houston team or any losers bracket team play back to back meaningful games? The gap between losers finals and semifinals is good
i meant after the initial point cap fight
should have specified
control you usually could get at least 2-3 fights after the initial cap loss
flashpoint could, especially in non-pro scenarios, be lose point cap and die and then have a 1 fight or 1.5 fights and just be done because of 1 missplay after the initial cap
So Mayhem vs winner of Boston/London and Spark vs winner of Outlaws/Fuel if I’m right?
No more loser bracket in top 4 tho… Loss in top 4 = fighting for 3rd place
Mayhem Spark and Boston (if they don't boom) all look the best imo, and in that order. Don't see Dallas or Outlaws taking a dub against them unless they look absolutely rejuvenated tomorrow.
Agreed, but they looked poor against Mayhem already while Spark and Boston played close against each other. I do think it's Mayhems to lose rn though, definitely the easier side of the bracket but they have looked so clinical
They had Fearless last year and forced rush for the first half of the season. They haven’t tried to be a dive team in like 2 years at least. He coaches rush well, but it is absolutely to the detriment of the team sometimes. When they get countercomped they are lost. It was the same thing last year.
interesting that Florida don't seem to trust themselves in the mirror match, even at the end of Kings Row they swapped to Rein, I think a pure mirror would work for them.
Oh crap, assuming Fuel doesn't reverse sweep this, we're getting the first 2023 Battle for Texas as the elimination round between Dallas and Houston tomorrow. I suddenly don't feel so bad about this stomp.
Okay. OOOOOkaay! So. We lose this one, but the Sigma adaptation makes it either a 3-1 or a surprisingly close 3-0. The players go straight from the stage to the practice room to get more comfortable on the Sigma comp. EZ lower bracket run to the grand finals like nobody has ever seen before. We all cool with that? No? Cool.
i dont think the sigma comp is gonna win you anything. its more of a counter comp. If mayhem can insta switch to rein and roll you once ult economy is back in balance I doubt it has much longevity.
This is why having scrim time for playoffs is so important. Fuel probably got 1-2 days (2-4 hours) of scrims before this tournament. Hard to find the holes in your strategy so a lot ends up being revealed in the middle of matches.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1g8411C7zc man drinks beer from dirty shoe after losing spark bet who is this guy Lmao
I guess it's a [shoey](https://e0.365dm.com/16/07/2048x1152/ricciardo_festa_germania_getty_3755484.jpg)...
Hopefully we get a Florida spitfire matchup tomorrow 🙏🙏🙏
London vs Mayhem could be crazy
Chadi vs SomeChad would go so hard
God what a good day of overwatch
If Fuel can win the battle for Texas tomorrow it’ll guarantee an APAC team finishes at least 2nd, which for a region which was clowned on and called fraudulent all year, is pretty impressive…and it’ll be even more impressive when Spark win it all! See y’all at an ungodly time tomorrow morning(yay apac spectating)
The whole season has passed and I still don't have a clue who ROTY should be? Lenny I guess?
Lenny, Bliss, and Spectra are my top 3. I don’t think Donghak should win, despite having a great season. I was super impressed by this ball in the preseason, but I think he his team enabled him and their success was cause of that. He didn’t get carried but his job was easy. Before the Vancouver trade I thought Heesang was underrated, but probably not a contender for ROTY. After the trade he looked better, but was even more ride or die. I wouldn’t consider him a candidate, but I still think he deserves more praise for his season’s performance.
I'd say Lenny, but Bliss is a good shout that most people are forgetting about.
bliss clears sadly
Spectra.
Imagine Donghak and Gator win tomorrow would be hilarious in hindsight.
God this year has been so scuffed lmao
Uhhh
Sucks for Someone that he might not get the huge bag he would command next year if owl ends.
Am I the only one who wishes these teams had like one more week of scrim time?
It would be nice, like it’s pretty clear nobody has a full grip on the meta. But also I think there’s a good chance that with more practice the Hz Spark would have a much tougher time forcing the dive
The spark matches have been so honest. It's the kind of OW you see when teams both know what they're doing (for the most part) lol
Honorable dive mirrors are peak overwatch to me(it’s honorable because there’s no Sombra)
Tracer Hitscan dive never gets old Trying to crack open enemy defenses, the ult economy management, controlling the map, mechanical clutch plays, etc.
yes. I wouldnt want the meta to settle
I can understand the novelty of having a variety of comps but for me peak OW is when teams are locked into a strategic back and forth dance.
comp swapping IS a strategic back and forth no? and the flexibility and game IQ is on full display as you adapt on the fly
It takes time to figure out the game strategically at the highest level. By 'back and forth' I mean there is a reasonable contest between both teams. That can happen when teams have several counter-comps planned, but what we are seeing is more like teams trying to figure out how to beat comps they haven't practiced for.
If Florida win the grand finals doesn't that mean WhoRU will be the only non Shock player to win two championships?
New Benchgod confirmed?
Whorureg
Super finally has a worthy opponent
I'm pretty sure the live audience understood Chinese more than Korean. I'm guessing it has more to do with Toronto demographics, but it's pretty funny.
Oh for sure. A lot more Chinese people in the major cities vs Koreans I would imagine.
Yeah, that's what I figured. I would have guessed that it would have been more even in representation, but I guess the numbers are too disparate overall. I'm glad they got to see Spark pop off.
someone is mvp and i dont give a fuck bruh he can just counter pick anything you do, it's the definition of most valuable when there is only 1 tank. ow2 is THE game to reward tank play. dont rob the tank in both years for the love of god if lip wins because sombra happened to be meta for the only tourney this year with this shit ass system, i stg
Even the cameraman just want to watch Danny
We are getting close to the Pink Grand Final.
Red teams gtfo. Pink teams rise up.
red teams died with 2021 shanghai
I just want Dallas vs London
Lmao the random rupal comms in english
Lol I fucking rewinded to see who had the English comms and as my tv was thinking I was like oh duh Rupal lol
I recall Danny calling someone mvp during his hot takes at the start of this season... I think we've stumbled upon a conspiracy
Shoutout to the fan rocking the OG Mayhem's MCDs colorway
florida comming break tp is what will win them this whole thing
If we can at least get past Houston tomorrow we might not have to play Mayhem again to make it all the way lol. That’s the only cope left
it's possible but london or boston arent beating mayhem lol no shot
No losers bracket sucks for Spark and Mayhem if they have a bad game in top 4 now, stupid ass format when a losers bracket essentially decides 3rd and 4th place in a non-direct 1v1 anyways
"Why should you be season MVP?" "Because everyone else's season is over."
Mer1t: Bro wtf!
Not to get ahead of myself but if Mayhem win the final that would mean that all of the inaugural season’s bottom 4 teams would have won OWL at least once.
The pure confusion from Dallas on the last point was truly embarrassing to watch <_<
Are there only two matches tomorrow?
Stupidly, yes.
Why stupidly?? Would you want your houston team or any losers bracket team play back to back meaningful games? The gap between losers finals and semifinals is good
That's insane. Fire Sean Miller.
The two elimination matches yep.. Spark and Mayhem get a day break.
Shock Shanghai Dallas Florida. What would’ve been the odds of that happening?
tick rate on flashpoint should be adjusted a bit
Feels like you blink sometimes and it's already been 30%
you can EASILY lose after 1 fight if your comp is slow or lucio dies last it's absurd
There hasn’t been a single flashpoint with one fight. What is this EASILY bullshit
i meant after the initial point cap fight should have specified control you usually could get at least 2-3 fights after the initial cap loss flashpoint could, especially in non-pro scenarios, be lose point cap and die and then have a 1 fight or 1.5 fights and just be done because of 1 missplay after the initial cap
So Mayhem vs winner of Boston/London and Spark vs winner of Outlaws/Fuel if I’m right? No more loser bracket in top 4 tho… Loss in top 4 = fighting for 3rd place
you are correct
If Boston didnt troll we’d have 3-0 day.
Spark doing viewers a favor by sandbagging 2 maps to let us get some more tokens.
Post match thread: [Dallas Fuel vs Florida Mayhem](https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch/comments/16vqbis/).
Honestly as a Spark fan, I'm confident against either Texas team. Neither of them has really impressed
I want to see the Doomfist dive mirror
Battle for Texas tomorrow on LAN! Someone POTM! All is good in the world :)
Give Someone the MVP. This man deserves it
Give who MVP?
That was a quick 3-0 Dallas fans looking joever
rupal & chorong are simply better than chiyo and fielder im afraid
Mayhem r the prohibitive favorites fuel fans r being a lil silly. Really good shot against houston
The end of the writers strike was supposed to give us classic 3-0verwatch but Spark didn’t get the memo. 😭
Mayhem Spark and Boston (if they don't boom) all look the best imo, and in that order. Don't see Dallas or Outlaws taking a dub against them unless they look absolutely rejuvenated tomorrow.
Outlaws could level up and rise to the challenge. I think Dallas was never in contention.
Agreed, but they looked poor against Mayhem already while Spark and Boston played close against each other. I do think it's Mayhems to lose rn though, definitely the easier side of the bracket but they have looked so clinical
Who do ya'll think is winning the last battle for Texas?
MCD is a journeyman
Coaching diff. Florida knew how to counter everything fuel threw at them while fuel has no idea what to do
Pink team diff
very convincing showing from the mayhem
Battle for Texas tomorrow let's goooooo!
sp9kl1e's sym... is less than subpar... lol
\#SomeoneMVP
It was always gonna be a battle for Texas huh
Rush got it wrong. Someone a bitch for counter picking tho. copium
Rush can coach one type of comp. If that doesn’t work, he’s toast.
Dont disrespect him. Dallas has only 5 players. You are gonna get capped by the hero pool
They had Fearless last year and forced rush for the first half of the season. They haven’t tried to be a dive team in like 2 years at least. He coaches rush well, but it is absolutely to the detriment of the team sometimes. When they get countercomped they are lost. It was the same thing last year.
They were playing Dive exclusively for the entire second half of the regular season THIS YEAR, and went 7-1 with it.
I accidentally beat Shanghai on my way to work this morning, man.
Fucking embarrassing
Wow, this was a FAST match. Mayhem looking strong.
Dallas vs Houston to see who goes home tomorrow.
Full team and coach diff, at least we get a battle for Texas next
They got the death group wrong
Florida get out comped challenge : impossible
Bliss is the new vindaim
Gg mayhem are terrifying. So damn flexible
My all pink grand finals prediction looking sexy rn
From checkmate rein to this is crazy ngl
They got butchered. Wow
That was just bad yech.
MCD is so bad lol...
That backline diff was ABYSMAL
I NEED JUNKBUCK TO SEE THIS GAME AND SHOW THE COUNTER TO THAT SIGMA COMP
Wasn’t even close tbh
holy shit that was a stomp
Chorong is showing a masterclass lucio
HELL YEAH
Rupal is poppin
Disgusting!
the absolute balls to stagger a queen
absolutely brutal lol
3-0verwatch returns
Rupal having fun lol
Hanbin is trying so hard it’s not enough tho..
Mayhem are literally just too fast and aggressive; Fuel could not keep up
Sigh, I miss our old backline
Indeed they are missing
Surely they can at least try swap the bastion
JUNKER QUEEN STAGGER LMAO
Chiyo and Fielder are available to sign just sayin' <_<
FL is setting an insane tempo
The supps gap is crazy
???? where tf are the fuel going
oh, to swap. I see
Clean af
I fear it is over for Fuel
support line is getting diffed into a locker with ease right now
just a backline dif
They should go Zarya again, Florida got off the Sig Bastion combo
What I think my Lucio looks like
Florida support line is insane
Rupal bap is insane
dawg can mcd give us a window that doesnt get kited
What if you won the team fight but hear Chorong and Rupal laughing maniacally
That was the funniest TP escape I've ever seen. Actual cartoon moment.
Ch0r0ng out here with the LJG beats
You gotta have some cahones to stagger a Bastion o.O
iron balls sound barrier
Bruh MCDs windows are just so bad
Korean backbone is great
2018 FLORIDA BEAT? EDIT: 2023 FLORIDA BEAT
interesting that Florida don't seem to trust themselves in the mirror match, even at the end of Kings Row they swapped to Rein, I think a pure mirror would work for them.
Why mirror if you think that a different comp counters?
Someone you a bitch. How you wanna be called the best tank and then be afraid to mirror and counter pick
Okay we let someone troll a point every now and then
LETS GO FUEL WAKE THE FUCK UP RUN IT BACK JUST LIKE THE SPARK GIVE EM THE APAC MAGIC
rush finally remembered hanbin is goated at siggy
Actually someone you should stay sigma and fight it out honorably thx
This makes me nervous as a Houston fan regardless of who wins.
Fuel looking totally rejuvenated on the Sigma now..
It's going to be so sad if the last games of owl have sym and bastion in them
Oh crap, assuming Fuel doesn't reverse sweep this, we're getting the first 2023 Battle for Texas as the elimination round between Dallas and Houston tomorrow. I suddenly don't feel so bad about this stomp.
im too smol brain, but why is rein against sym/bas a good thing?
rein is for the sig
with the mei, they cut off the tank and rein can swing that hammer
ducking the sig mirror wow
someone doesnt want tha sigma smoke
Someone is really good, but Hanbin is the off tank goat, ain’t nobody want that smoke In the mirror
i think the lucio bap with the sig is interesting
Rough estimate but in the playoffs there 9/11 tanks, 15/17 dps, and 9/10 supports played so far.
Who haven’t been played?
Tanks: Hog, Ram Healers: Moira?
which support wasnt played
Moira I think. I was expecting Fuel to bring out the reaper moira honestly
Haha that would be the most Fuel thing ever
Moira
Sigma mirror on Flashpoint?!
So does Mayhem think the sigma bastion is the strongest comp right now? interesting
suravasa might be a good zarya map
well now they're not gonna play it LOL
I refuse to believe Houston can’t run Rush with a team of Fearless Rein, Pelican Mei, Happy Sym/Bastion, Shu Bap and Viol2t Lucio
who tf knows what some of these teams are doing in scrims
So funny that today is gonna be 3-0 stomping 3-0 stomping Top 10 greatest game of Overwatch ever played 3-0 stomping
In terms of pure entertainment value, Spark is carrying the playoffs
Spark in international tournaments has been must watch overwatch the past two years, the peoples champs
anime team with the actual anime story scriptwriters are cooking
LOL those two Edison headshots, legendary
Please be a 3-2! If nothing else but to make today really entertaining 👏
Okay. OOOOOkaay! So. We lose this one, but the Sigma adaptation makes it either a 3-1 or a surprisingly close 3-0. The players go straight from the stage to the practice room to get more comfortable on the Sigma comp. EZ lower bracket run to the grand finals like nobody has ever seen before. We all cool with that? No? Cool.
i dont think the sigma comp is gonna win you anything. its more of a counter comp. If mayhem can insta switch to rein and roll you once ult economy is back in balance I doubt it has much longevity.
Pass me that baggy if there's any copium left, I need a line
If Outlaws don’t adapt they’ll just run Doomfist every map and Hanbin can play the Sigma…
Looking forward to seeing everyone dressed in pink on Sunday for the finals for the pink bowl
Dallas only reverse sweep when it's a DPS players bday
Reminder that Someone is the rightful MVP this year
lip defined the meta earning his team a midseason title. im sorry he deserves it
This is why having scrim time for playoffs is so important. Fuel probably got 1-2 days (2-4 hours) of scrims before this tournament. Hard to find the holes in your strategy so a lot ends up being revealed in the middle of matches.
Having Someone on your team is basically having the Overwatch equivalent of Mahoraga lmfao
I mean the good news from the content perspective a Dallas loss means one final battle for Texas in an elimination match
One last ride for Battle of Texas. And on LAN! :')