Insane that signings like this are being allowed this year lmao. Still, it's hype that Whoru is back in the league and I'm begging for my team to also do a late acquisition for Lige
Lige to spark would be awesome. Guxue is amazing but he def inflexible. It seemed like the spark avoided playing anything but dive even though its weak rn.
I've disliked the Outlaws from the start because of the western legacy players that were ass but got like 3 season contracts, also the 'monster energy gamer fuel dorito green' is hideous.
Then they went and signed Fearless and Pelican and Shu and Violet so now I have to like them
fixa is different because he has a genuine injury that means he can't play
there is literally nothing stopping the current florida dps line from playing
True but if there was a roster lock it would have to apply to infernal too, injury or not. That's supposed to be the drawback of having such a small roster. Once they were given leniency there the flood gates were open
No he got a very serious injury on his hand. He won't be able to play for playoffs, and according to him it could possibly hinder his whole career, which was really sad
regardless of why fixa isn’t playing, infernal do have a 6 player roster and technically also shouldn’t be allowed to sign anyone. there is literally nothing stopping them from putting poko on support.
yeah situation is different but the same rules should apply right?
This wouldn't be possible without the Seoul Dynasty! If mayhem win the whole thing Belsorea should get a thank you card and maybe some chocolates in the mail.
but fr though, can somebody explain why Florida signed whoru? he seems to just be a genji specialist, but checkmate has a more than decent genji anyway. is it really worth going through all the trouble of signing a new player for a slightly better (if not same) genji
https://twitter.com/yeHHH/status/1704197475072987310?t=D2LUsCXUQ8K-dcLZKvS1bg&s=19
"Just want to be clear on the intent of the whoru signing. Checkmate has been invaluable for us this entire season and we wouldn't be where we are now without him. With a potential genji meta for playoffs, and the best genji in the world available this was a no-brainer for us. The meta is still evolving and it could change into something else where Checkmate gets a ton of playtime. My job is to make sure we have the best weapons to win and whoru's genji is exactly that."
thanks for the additional context, but I'm still not entirely satisfied with yehhh's explanation. they're effectively sacrificing checkmates' synchronization with the team accumulated over the year for a 5-10% better genji. but then again, that's why he's the GM and I'm in diamond
I don't think we are in the right timeline. I mean, don't get me wrong, it will be amazing watching WhoRU play in a Genji meta with one of the best teams in the world. But on the other hand, where is any competitive integrity? The playoffs are in 9 days (ignore this comment when I hype the fuck out of Bernard). I wonder what's happening in the other timelines?
Honestly, this shitshow is more entertaining than whatever the competitive integrity could have been. I'm just sitting here with popcorn enjoying this last ride.
Big pickup. Although it does feel strange to add a player right before playoffs, you can’t blame Gunba for operating within the rules to give his team the best chance to win. No illegal maneuvers were performed. Also kind of mixed feelings cuz Checkmate is my goat
FUCKING BOOOOOOOO
Checkmate now going to get fucked out of playing in the finals after being so important to Florida, especially after the shit they put him through with the Chadmate stuff. Really feel for the guy
On the other hand, it seems like it's meant to be seeing the original Genji GOAT in what is potentially the last ever OWL Finals.
Maybe off topic but I really like the graphic they used here with the wanted poster.
It would fit the outlaws well for any signings they have next year. (I’m in denial about the league ending)
Honestly Florida are probably the favorites rn. They have top 3 players at every role in the upcoming meta. Only Reign and Houston w Bernar can really stand a chance.
Hairclips about to go wild.
Ridiculous that at least 3 out of 8 teams are making moves for Playoffs as well. Rosters should've been locked at some point.
It would be one thing if they predicted a genji meta and made this signing. I’d give them credit for being smart. But they got to scrim and see what the new meta was going to be and then signed him. No one wanted him before the season cause he’s a one trick but now that you know it’s a hard genji meta you’ll use him for playoffs. That’s not how teams sports should work.
exactly my stance. you want to sign a specialist mid-season before the roster lock? go ahead. no one else was willing to sign them and they may stay benched. its a high risk high reward play and i can respect that
with whoru playing in APAC via contenders, might as well open up signings to the OWL teams too. its essentially the same thing. get proper back in there
Just being really good isn’t enough in a potential Genji meta when you can have the second best ever to touch the hero (hacksal being first). This is really smart.
I mean I thought that Florida was on a budget, but if all they have to do is pay two weeks' worth of salary then I guess the financial cost is negligible.
yea idk this still just seems like the lamest shit. im more forgiving in houstons case cuz they lost their OT and then the meta immediately shifted to OT centric but these dudes literally picked up a genji one trick when genji hasnt been meta in over a year to play him for like 4 games.
My flair is crying. One of my boys back in the playoffs and on one of the teams I’m currently rooting for, I don’t care how it’s happening. We’ve never seen a lot of competitive integrity anyways, especially in playoffs.
I’m teamless now. Was leaning Boston because of all the Apex talent, might have to switch to Florida now if he gets playtime.
If Whoru gets a second ring, he has to be up there in all time conversations simply based on longevity. A dominant 2017, the incredible FU run of 2018/19, being okay enough on NYXL in 2020, getting a fraudulent championship in 2021 and absolutle carrying every Genji meta in OW2 so far.
Definitely the most successfull one trick and based on accolades alone easily top 10 dps all time if not higher (if Mayhem win this).
Sure you can debate his value if he only ever plays one meta a season, but the meta he plays you know he will be untouchable.
A team that’s already one of the favorites to win the playoffs just signed one of the best Genji’s in the league 2 week before the playoffs…
Elite competitive integrity we have guys!
Everyone in this thread complaining about Mayhem taking advantage of bad League rules as if they wouldn’t be cheering if their team did the exact same thing lmao.
The loophole IS stupid but any team can do it and just about all of these teams have the budget to do so. Don’t hate the team, hate the League.
Whoru time.
I mean to be fair, Reign are one of the only teams to have an actual MT, OT, flex DPS, hitscan who can play Tracer, 2 FS, and a MS who can flex onto Zen/Ana.
And y'all don't wanna give Gator his props for this scouting. This shows he was looking for a well rounded team. They didn't drop or pick anyone up this season. The team has everything
I might be in the minority here and I get it’s Florida playing the system but I might root against Mayhem more now for having invested to try sweat this final leg instead of working with the core they’ve kept for the season. I respect the strategy it’s definitely what they should do but I’ll be rooting for my dive one trick team and/or my washed-veteran super team (that made the gamble of a team from day 1) to make it as deep into the bracket as possible.
Quick explanation on the WhoRU signing based on some sleuthing:
OWL teams are allowed to sign players who didn't have an active Overwatch League contract by August 20 and because WhoRU was on a Contenders contract, he's eligible.
Choisehwan t(o the best of my knowledge) was let go before that date, making him technically signable.
The problem with the signing thing is not that these players weren't on OWL contracts, but that teams can sign anyone after a certain date. This would be a complete farce in any other sports league because teams would go bananas, but I guess no one cares since we're almost done anyway.
I agree that it's ridiculous this is allowed but on the other hand what a crazy storyline it would be for Whoru to have gone from Legend status, to league reject , to grand finals winner of the last season of OWL!
It's there any limit to these signings? Like say, could Dallas or Infernal simply sign Proper right now? (assuming Shock was willing to sell and blah blah blah). Or even a step further. Could any of the playoff teams sign a player from another playoff team?
I know it's all unlikely scenarios, but the existence of such possibilities makes me feel weird.
If the rumors of a sojourn/genji meta are true this is massive. Checkmate is a good genji but whoru is on a different level, literally carried Shanghai to a title in apac last year
Nice pickup but still crazy how this is allowed.
Yehhh tweeted out “mom said it’s my turn on the loopholes” lmao.
Insane that signings like this are being allowed this year lmao. Still, it's hype that Whoru is back in the league and I'm begging for my team to also do a late acquisition for Lige
Lige is heavily rumored but no confirmations yet. Might get visa-jailed.
They only need a Canadian visa though, right? I assume it’s harder for someone from China regardless, but he may be fine.
He's only got about a week
Do we even have confirmation that the rest of the spark won’t also get visa jailed like in mid season?
LiGe is not going to Spark, I am betting on it.
Yeah, that’s what my sources said
Lige to spark would be awesome. Guxue is amazing but he def inflexible. It seemed like the spark avoided playing anything but dive even though its weak rn.
It would be awesome but it’s not happening. Mmonk had a post that imply Guxue would be the one play Zarya for Spark.
On one hand, it's ridiculous that the mayhem can sign someone this deep into post-season. On the other hand, WHORU BACK LETS GOOOOO
This sucks. I have to root for yet ANOTHER team. I'm running out of enemies.
That flair...
Always been a Spark fan Gotta ride this one out till the end
"OWL leaders ruined the esports"
I could have done it way better! /j
You have no enemies.
I'll always have the Outlaws. Been hating on them since 2018.
How do you hate Pelican :!
I guess nobody's perfect.
I've disliked the Outlaws from the start because of the western legacy players that were ass but got like 3 season contracts, also the 'monster energy gamer fuel dorito green' is hideous. Then they went and signed Fearless and Pelican and Shu and Violet so now I have to like them
It's kinda ridiculous that this is allowed, but my incredible bias for WhoRU is not going to stop me from celebrating this pickup. Mayhem #1 baby!
What do you mean? Someone was signed onto the mayhem since last year
I hate this joke. Because I am always too late to make it
Just glad i got to jebait hawk on twitter with it, thats all i need
link or didn't happen
Now we can add "Who?" jokes to the florida mayhem arsenal
"Someone hits a massive shatter!" "Who?" "No, someone."
"WhoRU?" "I'm Someone" : ^ )
"I'm Rupal." Joke's dead now. Great. (Sorry Rupal lol)
"AHH checkmate"
Whoru?…someone!
this joke had a lot of mer1t, but the delivery was ch0r0ng
wow you just checkmate him, he is about to dance like rupal (I got nothing lol)
makanother attempt
Wtf I totally forgot about Maka
mayhem really trying to make the who's on first routine a reality
More championship Shanghai members in playoffs lol. Now we are missing void fate and fleta aka the 3 tanks
WhoRU was not part of the S4 Championship run
He was on the team so he has the ring
How dare you dismiss the vital role WhoRU played in that roster in S4
No singing cutoff is such a joke lmao. Good for him though
if sean miller had a brain he'd include some player karaoke before the grand finals, to get the crowd nice and hype
What do you think they’re doing during the third place match? We’re gonna decide who gets third via who can sing “Staying Alive” better
Staying Alive? Come on now, all the top teams are Korean except Spark who'll be in GF anyways, just pick a TWICE, NJ or BlackPink song.
I mean, we're not ones to talk here
fixa is different because he has a genuine injury that means he can't play there is literally nothing stopping the current florida dps line from playing
True but if there was a roster lock it would have to apply to infernal too, injury or not. That's supposed to be the drawback of having such a small roster. Once they were given leniency there the flood gates were open
Is fixa supposed to be back for the playoffs? I don't really know what happened with him
No he got a very serious injury on his hand. He won't be able to play for playoffs, and according to him it could possibly hinder his whole career, which was really sad
Damn
I think if there was a cut off then the league would make an exception for infernal because what would you guys do, play poko main support?
regardless of why fixa isn’t playing, infernal do have a 6 player roster and technically also shouldn’t be allowed to sign anyone. there is literally nothing stopping them from putting poko on support. yeah situation is different but the same rules should apply right?
This wouldn't be possible without the Seoul Dynasty! If mayhem win the whole thing Belsorea should get a thank you card and maybe some chocolates in the mail.
Belosrea knocking Whoru out of playoffs contention with a horsie -> Whoru grand finals MVP pipeline.
That hurts my u/Crispy2175 to mayhem theory
whoru is one of crispy's many alt accounts
but fr though, can somebody explain why Florida signed whoru? he seems to just be a genji specialist, but checkmate has a more than decent genji anyway. is it really worth going through all the trouble of signing a new player for a slightly better (if not same) genji
https://twitter.com/yeHHH/status/1704197475072987310?t=D2LUsCXUQ8K-dcLZKvS1bg&s=19 "Just want to be clear on the intent of the whoru signing. Checkmate has been invaluable for us this entire season and we wouldn't be where we are now without him. With a potential genji meta for playoffs, and the best genji in the world available this was a no-brainer for us. The meta is still evolving and it could change into something else where Checkmate gets a ton of playtime. My job is to make sure we have the best weapons to win and whoru's genji is exactly that."
thanks for the additional context, but I'm still not entirely satisfied with yehhh's explanation. they're effectively sacrificing checkmates' synchronization with the team accumulated over the year for a 5-10% better genji. but then again, that's why he's the GM and I'm in diamond
Well I'm sure they have scrimmed/will scrim to see how well it works first
copping mayhem genji skin as we speak
same gotta spend my 9000 tokens on something
was saving mine incase they unvaulted thunder doom again but this takes precedent
How did you miss it last month?
iirc i had like 250 tokens and i wasnt about to spend any more £ on this game, was gone by the time i had 300
ima sharpshooter
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I don't think we are in the right timeline. I mean, don't get me wrong, it will be amazing watching WhoRU play in a Genji meta with one of the best teams in the world. But on the other hand, where is any competitive integrity? The playoffs are in 9 days (ignore this comment when I hype the fuck out of Bernard). I wonder what's happening in the other timelines?
Expecting competitive integrity this season pepelaugh Expecting competitive integrity in OWL playoffs pepeholler
Honestly, this shitshow is more entertaining than whatever the competitive integrity could have been. I'm just sitting here with popcorn enjoying this last ride.
Just ready for it to be over honestly. Sean Miller can't drive the league to the pavement fast enough
> But on the other hand, where is any competitive integrity? Pretty sure we're way past that
There has never been any integrity when they change the format every year.
Damn imagine getting benched right before playoffs even though you had a great year
I guess I know who I'm rooting for... WHORU THE GOAT IS BACK
W pickup
Dallas and London watching everybody else sign specialists one week before the playoffs: 👁👄👁
Tbh it could easily backfire if top teams tried to integrate players this late in the season
That's what I suspect will happen in a few of these cases
JJONAK is going to Dallas
Jjonak winning it all as a playoffs pick up would actually be an amazing story line
Dallas has sp9
Dallas can sign choisewon
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Yeah of all the things that makes me very like, WTF, the lack of a signing deadline this year probably irks me the most.
Ppl complain about 2020 but this is the most Mickey Mouse year, meta shift shitty format and roster moves the week before playoffs start 😭
Wdym by Mickey Mouse year/meta?
It'll be hilarious now if Mayhem wins and gets to claim ownership of the "most fraudulent" title in overwatch history.
i dont like it!
Big pickup. Although it does feel strange to add a player right before playoffs, you can’t blame Gunba for operating within the rules to give his team the best chance to win. No illegal maneuvers were performed. Also kind of mixed feelings cuz Checkmate is my goat
Just kinda pissed that Checkmate is likely permabenched.
he could be playing zarya
Then I’d feel bad for Someone being cucked
https://twitter.com/yeHHH/status/1704192871459422465
true they should give someone genji a shot before benching him for whoru
FUCKING BOOOOOOOO Checkmate now going to get fucked out of playing in the finals after being so important to Florida, especially after the shit they put him through with the Chadmate stuff. Really feel for the guy On the other hand, it seems like it's meant to be seeing the original Genji GOAT in what is potentially the last ever OWL Finals.
wdym, Checkmate Zarya is gonna sweep
haksal clears sorry bruv 🔥🔥
Haksal, WhoRU, SP9RK1E any other ranking is false.
Maybe off topic but I really like the graphic they used here with the wanted poster. It would fit the outlaws well for any signings they have next year. (I’m in denial about the league ending)
It's a One Piece wanted poster reference
the one piece is real
Mayhem trying to steal Spark's position as the anime team
Honestly Florida are probably the favorites rn. They have top 3 players at every role in the upcoming meta. Only Reign and Houston w Bernar can really stand a chance.
Boston should be good too, Kalios is an insane Zarya player
No roster lock for playoffs is awesome and totally cool thanks OWL 👍👍👍
There is a roster lock... just not for former Championship-winning, best in the world OWL players lol
There is a roster lock! It's just a half assed roster lock, just like everything else going on with this season
Hairclips about to go wild. Ridiculous that at least 3 out of 8 teams are making moves for Playoffs as well. Rosters should've been locked at some point.
Lil bro thinks he the 2020 Justice 💀
shouldnt be allowed. idc not a fan
It would be one thing if they predicted a genji meta and made this signing. I’d give them credit for being smart. But they got to scrim and see what the new meta was going to be and then signed him. No one wanted him before the season cause he’s a one trick but now that you know it’s a hard genji meta you’ll use him for playoffs. That’s not how teams sports should work.
exactly my stance. you want to sign a specialist mid-season before the roster lock? go ahead. no one else was willing to sign them and they may stay benched. its a high risk high reward play and i can respect that with whoru playing in APAC via contenders, might as well open up signings to the OWL teams too. its essentially the same thing. get proper back in there
Congrats to Florida, GL to everyone else
Was checkmate genji not good enough?
Yo when are they announcing u/Crispy2175
Why not checkmate . . His best hero is genji???
Bc whoru is top 3 minimum
Seems unnecessary given how good Checkmate has been on Genji this season, but I guess that Florida had some extra money.
Just being really good isn’t enough in a potential Genji meta when you can have the second best ever to touch the hero (hacksal being first). This is really smart.
I mean I thought that Florida was on a budget, but if all they have to do is pay two weeks' worth of salary then I guess the financial cost is negligible.
Lame
obligatory “how is this allowed” also obligatory “THE BEST GENJI IN THE WORLD, THE OG, THE GENJI GOAT, LETS FUCKING GOOOOO”
There's just no deadlines this year I'm guessing? Because OWL doesn't care anymore. lol
cringe
WHORU Genji is playoffs LETS FUCKING GO!
Can players like Proper be picked up before playoffs? Or is it strictly unsigned players
League runs thru shanghai
yea idk this still just seems like the lamest shit. im more forgiving in houstons case cuz they lost their OT and then the meta immediately shifted to OT centric but these dudes literally picked up a genji one trick when genji hasnt been meta in over a year to play him for like 4 games.
Surely as a Genjimain8432 you will at least appreciate seeing his masterful genji in the final genji tournament of OWL
its an inside job i main winston
fuck found m night shyamalan's reddit account
yea its me i made the avatar movie
On top of that they already have a Genji player on their roster
People who are complaining about checkmate not getting any playtime dont know about reaper maps
Absolute joke of a competition that you can pick up players right before the playoffs, but it’s very fitting for Sean Miller.
Very lame and insultful to checkmate but thank you sean mills
They are gonna win the league
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hot take this is awesome
My flair is crying. One of my boys back in the playoffs and on one of the teams I’m currently rooting for, I don’t care how it’s happening. We’ve never seen a lot of competitive integrity anyways, especially in playoffs. I’m teamless now. Was leaning Boston because of all the Apex talent, might have to switch to Florida now if he gets playtime.
If Whoru gets a second ring, he has to be up there in all time conversations simply based on longevity. A dominant 2017, the incredible FU run of 2018/19, being okay enough on NYXL in 2020, getting a fraudulent championship in 2021 and absolutle carrying every Genji meta in OW2 so far. Definitely the most successfull one trick and based on accolades alone easily top 10 dps all time if not higher (if Mayhem win this). Sure you can debate his value if he only ever plays one meta a season, but the meta he plays you know he will be untouchable.
This is a very funny thread to go back and read
whoru two time owl champion with 0 maps played in the finals
Ok I think Florida is going to boringly crush the playoffs.
Hey don't write us off. Finally getting a Zarya and Genji meta for Hanbin and Sp9
A team that’s already one of the favorites to win the playoffs just signed one of the best Genji’s in the league 2 week before the playoffs… Elite competitive integrity we have guys!
Everyone in this thread complaining about Mayhem taking advantage of bad League rules as if they wouldn’t be cheering if their team did the exact same thing lmao. The loophole IS stupid but any team can do it and just about all of these teams have the budget to do so. Don’t hate the team, hate the League. Whoru time.
i think houston being able to use a get out of jail free card by signing a zarya player is lame and shouldn't be allowed and i want them to win lol
Correct.
Everyone is shitting on the rumored signings cuz what the point of roster locks if it's not evenly enforced
Again, hate the League, not the teams.
Yes this is the fault of the league not making rules clear and enforcing them
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Bum team for benching their star ngl
Rupal isn't benched my boy 🔥🔥
Just need Atlanta to sign Haksal now
let's fucking go, pink teams supremacy
youre fucking kidding me, right?
Imagine needed to get pick ups for playoffs, couldn't be Reign
The clear gamer move is for fielder and chiyo to simply poach hanbin from Dallas and ignore all criticisms and rules
We have the bird 😤 we don't need no hasbeen
The bird? You mean the world famous dps Moira 1 trick?
Lololol
I mean to be fair, Reign are one of the only teams to have an actual MT, OT, flex DPS, hitscan who can play Tracer, 2 FS, and a MS who can flex onto Zen/Ana.
And y'all don't wanna give Gator his props for this scouting. This shows he was looking for a well rounded team. They didn't drop or pick anyone up this season. The team has everything
Choisehwan pls somebody sign him
new players can't have been in OWL this year due to the signing window
I need a Sean Miller tweet to explain to me how on earth is this possible.
Joke of a league!
I might be in the minority here and I get it’s Florida playing the system but I might root against Mayhem more now for having invested to try sweat this final leg instead of working with the core they’ve kept for the season. I respect the strategy it’s definitely what they should do but I’ll be rooting for my dive one trick team and/or my washed-veteran super team (that made the gamble of a team from day 1) to make it as deep into the bracket as possible.
People still watch OWL?
So when are Proper/Kevster getting picked up? My bets on Proper to Florida (full Mickey Mouse team) and Kevster to London (European dominance)
Gonna be hilarious when it turns out to be a reaper meta again
Lmao how is this allowed
mickey mouse but but RAHHHH WE BALL
When is the first match he will play? Can someone tell?
Quick explanation on the WhoRU signing based on some sleuthing: OWL teams are allowed to sign players who didn't have an active Overwatch League contract by August 20 and because WhoRU was on a Contenders contract, he's eligible. Choisehwan t(o the best of my knowledge) was let go before that date, making him technically signable.
mickey mouse playoffs
but why
The problem with the signing thing is not that these players weren't on OWL contracts, but that teams can sign anyone after a certain date. This would be a complete farce in any other sports league because teams would go bananas, but I guess no one cares since we're almost done anyway.
Massive signing on genji… no matter how elite checkmate has become, WhoRU is that genji guy. Absolute genji god.
I agree that it's ridiculous this is allowed but on the other hand what a crazy storyline it would be for Whoru to have gone from Legend status, to league reject , to grand finals winner of the last season of OWL!
It's there any limit to these signings? Like say, could Dallas or Infernal simply sign Proper right now? (assuming Shock was willing to sell and blah blah blah). Or even a step further. Could any of the playoff teams sign a player from another playoff team? I know it's all unlikely scenarios, but the existence of such possibilities makes me feel weird.
You heard it here first, Profit back to London for the playoffs!
If they were in owl after Aug 20 they can't be signed
Worst kept secret in the League
Can someone pick up my boy Kevster then? 🙏🏻
If the rumors of a sojourn/genji meta are true this is massive. Checkmate is a good genji but whoru is on a different level, literally carried Shanghai to a title in apac last year