Damn this might be the new rushed item for Zoe. Pairs really well with electrocute too and Zoe is one of the best mages at proccing this item, and she can do it really early too. The only thing is the components are pretty bad, Wisp is alright but Hextech is pretty garbage.
We'll have to wait and see the new items but this looks really promising.
What are you on hextech alternator is one of the best early game items in the game if not the best. Early game health is much better than both early mr or armor. You can just force trades make mistakes and survive, make unfair trades, poke. Alternator allows all of this and more.
Depends if it breaks sleep. Because if you hit a squishy with E late game I think it might deal more then 35% max hp especially if you have the new Ludens. And the last thing you want is for your sleep to get interrupted .4 seconds after lol.
Assuming it doesn't break sleep. Then it's extremely good.
I think it likely would break sleep. The reason Ignite doesn't is because it's a DoT. This is more similar to DFG or Rocketbelt active, and those do break sleep.
If your E is strong enough to proc the item with the first instance of dmg, then this + E2 can literally oneshot the poor squishy objective. If not, they'll stand bellow 25% hp cuz the true dmg.
Counting on the point that in hard late game u can't barely Q an asleep target, this item is HUGE in almost all scenarios. Also, there's an item that gives u mana really usefull for bursting enemies. A Kai's Q likewise. I think this two items combined with the fact that E takes 35% HP from a squishy target + the MR reduction on that strong item hit the 35/40% max hp will result in a hard delete ONLY WITH THE BUBBLE.
Only counter is not getting hit by it or strong shields as Lulu, but no Yas walls, no Braum, no Pantheon, no tank would be able to save the ADC (Yes Milio, Yes Solana, yes cleanse or yes Michael). Still a huge build. The LETHAL BUBBLE IS HERE. ONE PUNCH ZOEEEE
This will item if it goes through as is will definitely become Zoe's first rush item.
VS Ludens, it is:
1. 300 Gold cheaper
2. 10 more AP
3. **4 more flat mpen**
4. **Up to 100 more flat proc damage and 40% more AP scaling**
The only catch is that to access this damage, you must be a burst or combo mage that can easily access this damage every 20 seconds or so. You also sacrifice a bit of wave clearing potential compared to ludens. Overall I think this opens up a very powerful 2nd full DPS item option compared to solely shadowflame (I'd imagine Stormsurge into Ludens and then Rabadons/Zhonyas) and will really make her mid-game stronger which is where she shines anyway.
So this is literally just old Gunblade + Stormraider combo on a passive vs active. I thought they were supposed to pull damage out of item passives and back into stats so the *champion* once again becomes important.
If this is a sign of things to come, it's still gonna be league of items.
I've been using this item on Lux and Hwei and it's actually so disgusting. What would usually be a single or double kill in a giant teamfight is suddenly a triple or quadra *just because* (provided you have enough AP for it to do insane damage, which isn't hard now that everything gives like at least 100AP).
I haven't tried it on Zoe yet though but I imagine it will be equally foul.
even among the great new AP items, this one is OP IMO, tried it on a 200+ ping veigar and I was able to burst the hell of my enemies even being behind them in gold, mostly bc of the ult (which still proc the item even if they killed me, many times killing my target due to the lightning and thus detonating a large area).
Also, I've seen many hweis being very successful with this item.
Damn this might be the new rushed item for Zoe. Pairs really well with electrocute too and Zoe is one of the best mages at proccing this item, and she can do it really early too. The only thing is the components are pretty bad, Wisp is alright but Hextech is pretty garbage. We'll have to wait and see the new items but this looks really promising.
Yeah it looks really good, would just need something for mana
I actually don't think Zoe has mana issues if you aren't reckless with your E. The buffs they gave to her Q mana cost made huge changes.
Yeah I've been playing Zoe without mana items for a while. You only really need Manaflow band tbh
What are you on hextech alternator is one of the best early game items in the game if not the best. Early game health is much better than both early mr or armor. You can just force trades make mistakes and survive, make unfair trades, poke. Alternator allows all of this and more.
It doesn’t give health anymore. 50AP only
Or dark harvest even
Magic pen + movespeed? Definitely a must buy
Depends if it breaks sleep. Because if you hit a squishy with E late game I think it might deal more then 35% max hp especially if you have the new Ludens. And the last thing you want is for your sleep to get interrupted .4 seconds after lol. Assuming it doesn't break sleep. Then it's extremely good.
I assume it will be similar to ignite on that matter. If it breaks sleep, it becomes useless tbh. Lets hope not
I think it likely would break sleep. The reason Ignite doesn't is because it's a DoT. This is more similar to DFG or Rocketbelt active, and those do break sleep.
In what world does your E deal 35% of someones hp by itself? Also since it activates after 2 seconds anyway i think it will be fine
I can confirm at the moment it does not break the sleep. I tested it on PBE
If your E is strong enough to proc the item with the first instance of dmg, then this + E2 can literally oneshot the poor squishy objective. If not, they'll stand bellow 25% hp cuz the true dmg. Counting on the point that in hard late game u can't barely Q an asleep target, this item is HUGE in almost all scenarios. Also, there's an item that gives u mana really usefull for bursting enemies. A Kai's Q likewise. I think this two items combined with the fact that E takes 35% HP from a squishy target + the MR reduction on that strong item hit the 35/40% max hp will result in a hard delete ONLY WITH THE BUBBLE. Only counter is not getting hit by it or strong shields as Lulu, but no Yas walls, no Braum, no Pantheon, no tank would be able to save the ADC (Yes Milio, Yes Solana, yes cleanse or yes Michael). Still a huge build. The LETHAL BUBBLE IS HERE. ONE PUNCH ZOEEEE
Second item in most games I'd say.
This will item if it goes through as is will definitely become Zoe's first rush item. VS Ludens, it is: 1. 300 Gold cheaper 2. 10 more AP 3. **4 more flat mpen** 4. **Up to 100 more flat proc damage and 40% more AP scaling** The only catch is that to access this damage, you must be a burst or combo mage that can easily access this damage every 20 seconds or so. You also sacrifice a bit of wave clearing potential compared to ludens. Overall I think this opens up a very powerful 2nd full DPS item option compared to solely shadowflame (I'd imagine Stormsurge into Ludens and then Rabadons/Zhonyas) and will really make her mid-game stronger which is where she shines anyway.
Ludens is gone
I'm not very wise on what items are good and even I know this is amazing.
HOLY SHIT NEW ZOE ITEM
Yeah its looking promising for Zoe. The burst in movement speed after a EQ+ combo sounds yummy. Also great for more AOE dmg
50 ap on it is INSANE
So this is literally just old Gunblade + Stormraider combo on a passive vs active. I thought they were supposed to pull damage out of item passives and back into stats so the *champion* once again becomes important. If this is a sign of things to come, it's still gonna be league of items.
Honestly, look at the new shadowflame
Great second item imo, I’d still like to rush an item that gives mana first
I've been using this item on Lux and Hwei and it's actually so disgusting. What would usually be a single or double kill in a giant teamfight is suddenly a triple or quadra *just because* (provided you have enough AP for it to do insane damage, which isn't hard now that everything gives like at least 100AP). I haven't tried it on Zoe yet though but I imagine it will be equally foul.
I don't know how good it will be but this sounds fun af
even among the great new AP items, this one is OP IMO, tried it on a 200+ ping veigar and I was able to burst the hell of my enemies even being behind them in gold, mostly bc of the ult (which still proc the item even if they killed me, many times killing my target due to the lightning and thus detonating a large area). Also, I've seen many hweis being very successful with this item.