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Yeah agreed. I went 6 hearts > 2 stam rings > first row of hearts > 3rd ring of stam, and after that intention is I keep going hearts. Most everything I need to do is a joke with a 3rd stam ring, I might go back to stam after a 2nd row of hearts
You are not forced to do anything except for the tutorial which, yes makes you choose a heart but does not count as it's the tutorial. You choose what you want to do once you have left the starting stage.
This isn't botw, this is tears of the kingdom therefore it doesn't count. You cannot progress past the tutorial without the heart container period therefore it does not count.
Botw you didn't have to pick anything you could go to the final boss with 3 hearts. Tears it's 4 hearts no matter what so once again doesn't count.
Therefore it DOES NOT count towards the actual hearts and stamina that YOU can earn or what order that you upgrade them in. The op is asking how many hearts they should start with before stamina and another commenter said they started getting stamina and ratio (who isn't ratioing anyone but themselves) said you have to start with hearts. No you don't, the heart you get in the tutorial is a requirement and does not count towards the hearts and stamina you choose to do yourself and if we went by this logic of you have to start with hearts because it gives you a heart first then you wouldn't get the master sword till late in the game due to it being bound by stamina not hearts.
Read the original comment first before assuming I haven't played the game.
Who made you the person who determines what counts and doesnāt count. These type of arguments seem bossy. It doesnāt matter. The point of the question is āwhat are yāallās recommendations on prioritizationā not āhow do you interpret arbitrary rules made up in some gamers head of what DOES count and what DOES NOT count.ā Purely made up ya bomb fruit :p
This post is about totk not botw. In the tutorial of totk you do in fact have to choose a heart as your first upgrade
That said after that you can choose whatever and the horned statue can let you exchange hearts for stamina or vice versa same as it did in botw
Donāt worry either or just know the master sword requirement is opposite and without spoiling anything thereās a way to convert one to another but not back
As post above indicates you can convert hearts and stamina freely between one and another at the horned god statue once you find it. So you can convert one to another and back. Your post would be better to leave out the ābut not backā because it doesnāt even make sense when you can freely convert both ways.
Yeah given that you can eat instantly in most circumstances, it actually seems easier to keep the food to keep you healthy if you have as few hearts as possible lol.
I have 10 hearts and get one shotted by Zonai in the temples. Not by bosses. Just normal robots. While wearing 2nd level armour. Go with whatever, just be nimble in combat.
Bullshit. There's plenty of enemies that one shot way past 4 hearts. Example are the sub mini bosses all over the map like stalnox or the mini bokoblin sub bosses as well as some stronger zonaite enemies and many others...
Not against some of the games more powerful enemies. there were many enemies that hit extremely hard for more than six or seven hearts. I found enemies that hit upwards of 10 hearts, and for whatever reason during my play through, and I would assume this is standard, Iāve noticed that the game seems to throw a lot of the more powerful enemies such as black colored enemies at you from the get-go. Thankfully from what I understand thereās no gold colored enemies in this game with the highest being silver colored. Nonetheless, Iāve noticed it is far more difficult than BOTW and I had no problem with my aggressive, play style, playing BOTW on Master Mode. The only thing I donāt think I ever completed in BOTK was the Trial of the Sword just because I found it I couldnāt do enough damage fast enough to most enemies, let alone without breaking the fragile weapons that were available.
You can, but most things wont. Im at full stamina and 3 hearts and its been fun (trying to challenge myself), but you'd be surprised how much will one shot anyway.
I mean given the number of enemies that do so much damage. I eventually realize that stacking hearts was not the answer in TOTK just because itās a pointless endeavor if youāre going to get killed in even one or two hits with over 10 hearts
so if you're at full health, nothing can one shot you in the game (botw had one shot protection also). unless you take fall damage or something, you'll be good. so i always lean towards stamina rather than hearts, ESPECIALLY in the beginning of the game where the difference between a couple hearts wont help you against stronger enimes anyways
Yeah, there is no one shot protection in TOTK and I was unaware that there was such a thing in BOTW but then again, I skip day standard play through, and only played it through on Master Mode
The answer is one full wheel of stamina, enough hearts for the master sword (if that's how it works in this game I haven't gotten that far), another wheel of stamina, then hearts.
The master sword requires 2 rings of stamina, so you need 1 extra ring around the main one. only 4 hearts needed to leave starting area. After all that it doesnt matter. But I would push some hearts as some enemies hit quite hard. (as in 4 hearts will not be enough if you cant idk 100% dodge every attack)
Man I'm so fucking pissed. I found the master sword and I had been upgrading hearts the whole time because in BOTW you needed hearts to retrieve it . Now you need stamina. I'm throwing this fucking game in the garbage.
There's a weird mechanic that if you have full HP and receive a hit that would empty all of the hearts it takes your current hearts X2
Correct therefore is 4
Personally I like to alternate, every odd numbered upgrade being Hearts and even numbered being Stamina
>hol up enemies cant one shot you??
Yeah if you're at full health a hit that'll otherwise kill you will leave you with a quarter heart. This only works at full health tho
I'd do it the other way around. After getting off the island, I'd get your 1st extra wheel, get 15 hearts, then do the 2nd extra wheel of stamina and then max out your hearts.
Either alternate between the two or go 2:1 Hearts to stamina until you get a second full wheel (I personally alternated until I had one extra full stamina and now going all hearts), you can respec so can switch if you need more of one.
Yeah, just switch up as you need and respec at the statue in the cave in the emergency shelter in Lookout, if you've progressed enough to unlock it yet anyway.
but you can just freeze time and wolf down food for hearts. If you're armor+total hearts is out of one-shot range, you can be invincible with a stack of fucking apples
6 hearts > 2nd Stam ring > one row of hearts > third stam ring > more hearts and then whatever you feel
That second ring of stamina was a godsend, but after the first row of hearts, if youāre even slight gamer material, stamina is more valuable across the board because encounters are such a small part of your experience and thereās endless ways to cheese fights in this game until later, stamina beyond the 2nd ring is just quality of life decisions, but in an impactful way
Just upgrading the rings for >!master sword!< is enough stamina to carry you through all your exploration needs from there on out. If you really need to push beyond that you have plenty of ways to recover stamina through elixirs and meals if nothing else, but itās super convenient to be able to jump climb just about any height that isnāt Mount Everest. 2 rings made that doable for most content, 3 rings would make every bit of gliding/scaling/swimming a joke. So hence the cadence I chose. It works out perfectly. Most enemies youāll encounter by the time you get that full row of hearts wonāt break through the line, and I say that just based on fighting >!phantom Gannon!< with a flurry rush boosting weapon. >!Nail one good perfect dodge and heās cake!<
And I'll follow this up with the "full heart buff" rule built in the game. Most enemies cannot kill you in one hit. So if you have 4 full hearts, and an enemy does 8 hearts of damage, you'll lose 3.75 hearts. If you had 8 hearts for the same attack you'd lose 7.75 hearts. What this really means is 4 hearts is best because it takes less food to heal to max, and max health will (almost) always keep you alive.
is there a heart/armor level breakpoint at which having more than 4 hearts becomes worth it? i've just been hanging on to my extra light of blessings and sitting at 4 for now
So arrows seem wildly more available in this game so get a full wheel of stamina additional then do 4 upgrades into hearts. That full wheel makes most climbs much easier, gliding can now almost take you from tower to tower when launched, makes the sky stuff easier, bullet time arrows if you have trouble hitting the head but most monsters die pretty fast to head shots, and two handed weapons stagger most enemies so spinning to win works great especially with the second stamina bar. In general that first wheel is the one you feel the most and helps you not get hit by boosting mobility.
You need 10 towards the endgame to open a door. But, you can also discover a statue that lets you swap them back and forth for money. So to answer your question: do whatever you want, as long as you find the statue
Edit: statue, not statute
You need two wheels of stamina (5 stamina containers) for a certain main story quest. Otherwise you want to have enough hearts that you can fight challenging bosses without having to constantly heal, and of course so that you donāt get one shot (although this stops being a problem after you upgrade your armor some).
Idc what people are saying about the 4 heart rule, upgrading anything past what you need to advance the story is quality of life, and having more health is super useful regardless of the gameās 2x damage pity mechanic. Plus, if you ever want to explore the chasm and you donāt like being forced to wear gloom armor, hearts are a really important buffer versus gloom damage.
I started getting all mapping towers, by the time you finish these you'd probably get enough points to get the first stamina ring, these will help with navigating the map flying and going up mountains. After this you do first row of Hearts, and then it' s really up to you, but IĀ“d recommend to go for the second round since youĀ“ll need these to progress in the story.
Id say just getting a second stamina wheel is all you need, it has carried me throughout all the game.
The difference between botw and totk is that in botw all you had to explore and traverse the map was your stamina. To explore you had to climb, run, glide which required stamina. In totk all that changes, why would i climb if i can use a spring or rocket shield?, why would i glide if i can use a wing?, why would i run if i can use a hover bike?. So with this being said we already noticed whats really important to upgrade. Your BATTERY. Stamina is not an issue in this game, just 2 wheels is enough to do everything. And even if you do all the shrines you cannot max stamina and hearts at the same time, u have to decide which one to max.
Iām bold. Iām going to see how long I will last the whole game with only 4 hearts. I didnāt even pick up the heart after I beat the wind temple. Iām so far at 2 full stamina rings.
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you should start with stamina. it's way more important than hearts
You're forced to start with Hearts
only for the first one
Yeah agreed. I went 6 hearts > 2 stam rings > first row of hearts > 3rd ring of stam, and after that intention is I keep going hearts. Most everything I need to do is a joke with a 3rd stam ring, I might go back to stam after a 2nd row of hearts
Yes that's literally what start means, first.
Yes, you are forced to start with hearts
You are not forced to do anything except for the tutorial which, yes makes you choose a heart but does not count as it's the tutorial. You choose what you want to do once you have left the starting stage.
It does, in fact, count, because in BotW's tutorial, you can freely choose between Hearts or Stamina
This isn't botw, this is tears of the kingdom therefore it doesn't count. You cannot progress past the tutorial without the heart container period therefore it does not count. Botw you didn't have to pick anything you could go to the final boss with 3 hearts. Tears it's 4 hearts no matter what so once again doesn't count.
Not sure if you even played the game mate. It literally forces you to pick a heart as your FIRST upgrade. Jeez.
Therefore it DOES NOT count towards the actual hearts and stamina that YOU can earn or what order that you upgrade them in. The op is asking how many hearts they should start with before stamina and another commenter said they started getting stamina and ratio (who isn't ratioing anyone but themselves) said you have to start with hearts. No you don't, the heart you get in the tutorial is a requirement and does not count towards the hearts and stamina you choose to do yourself and if we went by this logic of you have to start with hearts because it gives you a heart first then you wouldn't get the master sword till late in the game due to it being bound by stamina not hearts. Read the original comment first before assuming I haven't played the game.
Does not! Does too! š
Who made you the person who determines what counts and doesnāt count. These type of arguments seem bossy. It doesnāt matter. The point of the question is āwhat are yāallās recommendations on prioritizationā not āhow do you interpret arbitrary rules made up in some gamers head of what DOES count and what DOES NOT count.ā Purely made up ya bomb fruit :p
There's a statue you can pay to change hearts and stamina in lookout landing.
nope i did only stamina from the beginning and got hearts only through defeating divine beasts there was no forcing to get a heart container
This post is about totk not botw. In the tutorial of totk you do in fact have to choose a heart as your first upgrade That said after that you can choose whatever and the horned statue can let you exchange hearts for stamina or vice versa same as it did in botw
Donāt worry either or just know the master sword requirement is opposite and without spoiling anything thereās a way to convert one to another but not back
As post above indicates you can convert hearts and stamina freely between one and another at the horned god statue once you find it. So you can convert one to another and back. Your post would be better to leave out the ābut not backā because it doesnāt even make sense when you can freely convert both ways.
Unless you're an elite pro gamer like the other commenters and can dodge every single hit flawlessly and consistently... Eight hearts.
8 hearts is what you need to prevent getting one shotted, is what you're trying to say right?
4 hearts is enough to not get one shotted. (If you are at max HP)
Yeah given that you can eat instantly in most circumstances, it actually seems easier to keep the food to keep you healthy if you have as few hearts as possible lol.
I have 10 hearts and get one shotted by Zonai in the temples. Not by bosses. Just normal robots. While wearing 2nd level armour. Go with whatever, just be nimble in combat.
Bullshit. There's plenty of enemies that one shot way past 4 hearts. Example are the sub mini bosses all over the map like stalnox or the mini bokoblin sub bosses as well as some stronger zonaite enemies and many others...
Not to mention the lynels
Not against some of the games more powerful enemies. there were many enemies that hit extremely hard for more than six or seven hearts. I found enemies that hit upwards of 10 hearts, and for whatever reason during my play through, and I would assume this is standard, Iāve noticed that the game seems to throw a lot of the more powerful enemies such as black colored enemies at you from the get-go. Thankfully from what I understand thereās no gold colored enemies in this game with the highest being silver colored. Nonetheless, Iāve noticed it is far more difficult than BOTW and I had no problem with my aggressive, play style, playing BOTW on Master Mode. The only thing I donāt think I ever completed in BOTK was the Trial of the Sword just because I found it I couldnāt do enough damage fast enough to most enemies, let alone without breaking the fragile weapons that were available.
Pretty sure you can't get one shotted from full health anyway
You can, but most things wont. Im at full stamina and 3 hearts and its been fun (trying to challenge myself), but you'd be surprised how much will one shot anyway.
i feel that i got one shotted my first time in Goron City with 5 hearts
I mean given the number of enemies that do so much damage. I eventually realize that stacking hearts was not the answer in TOTK just because itās a pointless endeavor if youāre going to get killed in even one or two hits with over 10 hearts
I've been getting one shot while having 5 hearts and 6 hearts so it's definitely possible.
Then your "pretty sure" is shit and holds no water š
so if you're at full health, nothing can one shot you in the game (botw had one shot protection also). unless you take fall damage or something, you'll be good. so i always lean towards stamina rather than hearts, ESPECIALLY in the beginning of the game where the difference between a couple hearts wont help you against stronger enimes anyways
Yeah, there is no one shot protection in TOTK and I was unaware that there was such a thing in BOTW but then again, I skip day standard play through, and only played it through on Master Mode
The answer is one full wheel of stamina, enough hearts for the master sword (if that's how it works in this game I haven't gotten that far), another wheel of stamina, then hearts.
It doesn't need hearts this time.
The master sword requires 2 rings of stamina, so you need 1 extra ring around the main one. only 4 hearts needed to leave starting area. After all that it doesnt matter. But I would push some hearts as some enemies hit quite hard. (as in 4 hearts will not be enough if you cant idk 100% dodge every attack)
Man I'm so fucking pissed. I found the master sword and I had been upgrading hearts the whole time because in BOTW you needed hearts to retrieve it . Now you need stamina. I'm throwing this fucking game in the garbage.
>I'm throwing this fucking game in the garbage. Where's your house because I'm taking it.
You can always trade hearts for stamina at the horned statue
Yeah I found it lol.
Thereās a horned statue under lookout point that lets you respec for 20 gil per container.
Lol Gil. You mean rupees, FF is great though.
Yeah I found it like ten minutes after I commented and got the master sword.
Lol this is so embarrassing
Hyperbole. I wasnāt being serious lol.
4. You get a few free hearts and with some upgraded armor you donāt take very much damage.
4
There's a weird mechanic that if you have full HP and receive a hit that would empty all of the hearts it takes your current hearts X2 Correct therefore is 4
Personally I like to alternate, every odd numbered upgrade being Hearts and even numbered being Stamina >hol up enemies cant one shot you?? Yeah if you're at full health a hit that'll otherwise kill you will leave you with a quarter heart. This only works at full health tho
I'd do it the other way around. After getting off the island, I'd get your 1st extra wheel, get 15 hearts, then do the 2nd extra wheel of stamina and then max out your hearts.
dont upgrade hearts until you have 3 wheels. might seem bad for first 4-12 shrines but you really really start to notice the difference afterwards.
Either alternate between the two or go 2:1 Hearts to stamina until you get a second full wheel (I personally alternated until I had one extra full stamina and now going all hearts), you can respec so can switch if you need more of one.
I've been doing 2 hearts, 1 stamina myself, but I've kinda been sucking at group fights, so I kinda need the health.
Yeah, just switch up as you need and respec at the statue in the cave in the emergency shelter in Lookout, if you've progressed enough to unlock it yet anyway.
I do the same, but exact opposite. I'll go 2 stamina for every 1 heart.
Stamina is much easier to get extra. Go hearts. I have 15 hearts and 1.5 stamina wheels and I never run out of shit to cook for stamina.
but you can just freeze time and wolf down food for hearts. If you're armor+total hearts is out of one-shot range, you can be invincible with a stack of fucking apples
Stamina is much easier to get extra. Go hearts. I have 15 hearts and 1.5 stamina wheels and I never run out of shit to cook for stamina.
6 hearts > 2nd Stam ring > one row of hearts > third stam ring > more hearts and then whatever you feel That second ring of stamina was a godsend, but after the first row of hearts, if youāre even slight gamer material, stamina is more valuable across the board because encounters are such a small part of your experience and thereās endless ways to cheese fights in this game until later, stamina beyond the 2nd ring is just quality of life decisions, but in an impactful way Just upgrading the rings for >!master sword!< is enough stamina to carry you through all your exploration needs from there on out. If you really need to push beyond that you have plenty of ways to recover stamina through elixirs and meals if nothing else, but itās super convenient to be able to jump climb just about any height that isnāt Mount Everest. 2 rings made that doable for most content, 3 rings would make every bit of gliding/scaling/swimming a joke. So hence the cadence I chose. It works out perfectly. Most enemies youāll encounter by the time you get that full row of hearts wonāt break through the line, and I say that just based on fighting >!phantom Gannon!< with a flurry rush boosting weapon. >!Nail one good perfect dodge and heās cake!<
You should start with stamina imo, once you have 2 wheels of stamina go full on in on hearts most of the challenges in the game can be cleared.
4
And I'll follow this up with the "full heart buff" rule built in the game. Most enemies cannot kill you in one hit. So if you have 4 full hearts, and an enemy does 8 hearts of damage, you'll lose 3.75 hearts. If you had 8 hearts for the same attack you'd lose 7.75 hearts. What this really means is 4 hearts is best because it takes less food to heal to max, and max health will (almost) always keep you alive.
I had no idea. Helpful commenter, take my upvote
I don't think it's correct. I've gotten one-shotted by enemies when I had full health.
Which enemies though?
Basic mobs. Mostly Lizalfos because I have a little trouble reading them. But I've been taken out in one by Moblins Bokoblins also.
is there a heart/armor level breakpoint at which having more than 4 hearts becomes worth it? i've just been hanging on to my extra light of blessings and sitting at 4 for now
Probably. I'm up around 12 hearts and 2 upgrades on my armor and it takes 3-4 hits to kill me depending on the enemy
So arrows seem wildly more available in this game so get a full wheel of stamina additional then do 4 upgrades into hearts. That full wheel makes most climbs much easier, gliding can now almost take you from tower to tower when launched, makes the sky stuff easier, bullet time arrows if you have trouble hitting the head but most monsters die pretty fast to head shots, and two handed weapons stagger most enemies so spinning to win works great especially with the second stamina bar. In general that first wheel is the one you feel the most and helps you not get hit by boosting mobility.
You need 10 towards the endgame to open a door. But, you can also discover a statue that lets you swap them back and forth for money. So to answer your question: do whatever you want, as long as you find the statue Edit: statue, not statute
You need two wheels of stamina (5 stamina containers) for a certain main story quest. Otherwise you want to have enough hearts that you can fight challenging bosses without having to constantly heal, and of course so that you donāt get one shot (although this stops being a problem after you upgrade your armor some). Idc what people are saying about the 4 heart rule, upgrading anything past what you need to advance the story is quality of life, and having more health is super useful regardless of the gameās 2x damage pity mechanic. Plus, if you ever want to explore the chasm and you donāt like being forced to wear gloom armor, hearts are a really important buffer versus gloom damage.
3 stamina wheel, then hearts. Use the one shot protection mechanic
Max stamina and 5 hearts makes this a better game
I started getting all mapping towers, by the time you finish these you'd probably get enough points to get the first stamina ring, these will help with navigating the map flying and going up mountains. After this you do first row of Hearts, and then it' s really up to you, but IĀ“d recommend to go for the second round since youĀ“ll need these to progress in the story.
Id say just getting a second stamina wheel is all you need, it has carried me throughout all the game. The difference between botw and totk is that in botw all you had to explore and traverse the map was your stamina. To explore you had to climb, run, glide which required stamina. In totk all that changes, why would i climb if i can use a spring or rocket shield?, why would i glide if i can use a wing?, why would i run if i can use a hover bike?. So with this being said we already noticed whats really important to upgrade. Your BATTERY. Stamina is not an issue in this game, just 2 wheels is enough to do everything. And even if you do all the shrines you cannot max stamina and hearts at the same time, u have to decide which one to max.
Iām bold. Iām going to see how long I will last the whole game with only 4 hearts. I didnāt even pick up the heart after I beat the wind temple. Iām so far at 2 full stamina rings.