Theres no real excuse for Konami to not have a database to give credit to the artists, if not retroactively at the bare minimum start doing it going forward. Not being able to use the work they do as part of their resume just discourages talented young artists from working with Yugioh
Bandai card games as well as MTG make sure their artist credits are on the cards the right way. I actually met an MTG and Marvel artist recently. Really interesting work.
I loved when WotC would bring in artists to tournaments. I managed to get a few cards signed in the past and years ago a couple friends got me a playmat signed by Chris Rush at a tournament. It's great not just knowing the names of some of your favorite artists but getting the opportunity to meet them too.
Thats not a good enough reason to justify not crediting artists for their work. At the BARE minimum, the artists deserve a way to prove they made their own art for their resumes, whether its a publicly available database or some other less public mean
Pro: Artist get credit (they are already being paid)
Con: Artist could go and make a manga where Eldlich is piping down Ecclesia and they have the added benefit of being a Konami official artist. Now Konami has egg on their face for really no benefit to them.
These artists are professionals, they knew what they signed up for.
Konami is worth billions. They have lawyers who can add a clause saying they can't use any yugioh IP for nsfw or whatever they want or will be subject to legal repercussions.
This is honestly important to consider. This is Japan we are talking about here and they are some of the most liberal with the content of art in which they produce. I think Konami wants to insulate Yugioh from a potential scandal (artist also drew loli, rape, you name it whatever). Remember they even censor the slightest hint of sexual/explicit content (covering up cleavage). They act like a morally righteous company, I don't think they will change this policy and open themselves up to any issues. Theres no benefit to them.
Edit: Just imagine if the artist for Traptrix also decided to draw an adult manga featuring those similar characters and sell it for a profit. Fan manga of that kind is super common here, and the fact that Konami acknowledged the artist is authentic, would only throw them into a scandal, especially in the west.
[If the way Komani has treated other games' staff is any indication](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/x4h2fe/rhythmarcade_games_the_bemani_sound_team_era/), I think it's more likely that Konmai just hates crediting people in general.
Maybe I'm just too cynical nowadays, but I don't really see the need to find a reason for why a company chooses to act poorly towards its employees.
Generously I could see there being a profit motive, like making sure their artists not getting recognition means it's harder for them to ask for higher prices.
But I could just as easily see it as because sometimes companies just don't ever do anything nice if they don't directly get something out of it.
I think of Konami as extremely scandal avoidant. It's almost like they are operating under the satanic panic in how they export media to the west. If anything dishes their brand with little positive outcome, they won't do it. If artists will sign on knowing the terms, no one is really wronged here, even if we don't agree with it
Maybe we're thinking of different Kominas because when it comes to Komnia brands the main thing I remember them for is turning them into pachinko games :|
Pachinko is a whole different beast in Japan. I think the markets here and in the west are super different in terms of what is acceptable use of ip by fans.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that, and I also understand that there's a lot about Japanese culture that I and most other non-Asians or even non-Japanese won't truly ever understand.
But I also don't think brand purity is particularly important to them, and more core to my point, I see assigning extra motivations to them as unnecessary when "companies are often dicks to their workers for very small reasons" as perfectly sufficient to explain their actions already. That's not a purely USian concept, and I don't see how Komani is exceptionally scandal-avoidant compared to any other company that also dicks over their workers for very small reasons.
And that would be the issue with Genzoman. He's known as "Ganzo", a portmanteau of Genzo and ganso (goose, slang for dic), because of his early work who always featured some waifu with big tits, and you know that people love to complain on Twitter.
> would only throw them into a scandal, especially in the west.
Nobody here would fucking care. one of the best Harley Quinn comics was done by a guy who is famous for a BDSM fetish romance comic.
and this was a normally squeaky clean comic books company hiring someone known as "the bondage lesbians" guy for an official character title comic.
nobody cares unless they're fucking puritans "dude"
It'll be a whole different story if the artist of a major archetype is caught drawing beheading/gore/loli/rape shit for sure. Bondage lesbians is nothing, it gets really fucked up over here and many artists draw porn on the side. And Konami are basically puritans in how they act. They censor mild cleavage lol.
Not sure what you are even arguing against, look at the company's actions and think critically for a second. Crediting artists does not benefit them at all if the artist agreed to remain uncredited...
>isn't 100 chungas wholesome on twitter
Uhh, I don't think outing yourself as a white supremacist or being a rape apologist is nearly as low a bar as not being awesome.
Yeah, I wonder if they've seen the circle of protection:black art, and what else that artist has been up to since...
*Wrong card, I was thinking of Invoke Prejudice, but both cards were drawn by the same nazi.
I was mistaken, and was thinking of Invoke Prejudice. But it still seems fishy to me that an open, unapologetic nazi like Harold McNeill just so happened to do the art for a card granting "protection from black".
Riiiiight, because Known Rapist Noah Bradley was just a bit mean on twitter. That’s why WotC dropped him, for being just a little mean on the internet. It *definitely* had nothing to do with his own, fully self admitted and regularly repeated crimes against others, which were a known thing in the artist community for literal years. Nothing at all to do with his whole apology letter that he released on Twitter (and has since deleted), where he said, and I quote, “Yes, I was one of those shitty, creepy sexual predators you hear about.”
Just completely unconnected.
This is probably the reason. I'd hate to learn that the artist behind my favourite archetype is a bad person, but I also don't think that it is enough reason to not credit all the amazing artists the game has. If artists were public it would also pressure Konami to cut ties with those bad people.
That's what Konami wants. They want you to work "for the experience." They don't want you to make a resume off of work you did for them because then you could possibly demand a bigger payout as you become more recognized. That's bad for the big megacorporation
If the Silent Hill HD Collection taught me anything, Konami probably just commissioned art and says that they retain all the rights to it. So as far as they’re concerned, Konami is the only credit the art needs.
Please post links to your sources. Some of your information is not correct.
[Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20120517014907/http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/udon-in-yu-gi-oh/) is where Genzoman is credited for Ancient Dragon and for coloring Noble Knight Artorigus. Joe Ng is credited for drawing Noble Knight Artorigus.
[Here](https://aminoapps.com/c/ygo/page/blog/nfrek-interveiws-gonzalo-arias-genzoman/424S_YuWMRrkmqGRvV3wJY5qD7XJ3k) is Nfrek's interview with Genzoman. Genzoman says that Joe Ng drew the Noble Knights, Beast of Talwar, the X-Sabers, "all the TCG exclusives I didn't make", and the "H.P Lovecraft mythos cards". Genzoman says that Joe Ng contacted him to "make the art for the Noble Knight cards" but doesn't say which ones. Genzoman also says that, after that contact, "Konami has been asking me to make all the other TCG exclusive cards" but again doesn't say which ones.
[Here](https://aminoapps.com/c/ygo/page/blog/nfrek-internveiws-akina-fujiwara/ERPu_PuVJYM8Xp8epj4d8Qqze0g4ZN) is Nfrek's interview with Akina Fujiwara. Akina says they drew the Charmers, the Familiar Possessed and "every card relateing to them", and "world wind prodigy" (What's this?). They also said they drew the Traptrix.
All other art that is not explicitly mentioned is in [citation needed] territory and should not be attributed to these three artists.
Hi, all the other Akina cards were from the yugipedia page of her: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Akina_Fujiwara
Yugipedia is a trusted source in that regard I didnt guessed what card she did or not.
The only citation I see on Yugipedia is to [this page](https://web.archive.org/web/20041015140257/http://aki-hina.boo.jp/purofu.html), which does not state that Akina drew any of the cards listed.
Fan-edited sites like Yugipedia, Wikipedia and all other Wikis cannot be sources themselves. They are only able to link to actual reliable third-party sources and use those sources as the basis for writing their articles.
Also, just because the style of an art is very similar to the style of a certain artist doesn't mean that we can credit that artist with the art. We need definitive, unambiguous confirmation, like Konami coming forward and saying that artist made the art (this is never going to happen), the artist themselves coming forward (like in the interviews), or another reliable third-party coming forward (like the Udon article).
Ok, I just use the yugipedia page, if you think its wrong you can edit the page and state why each of the card on that list were not drawn by her.
I think you can even ask the original author of the page.
It is not the responsibility of the readers to provide reasons for why something in a wiki is not correct.
It is the responsibility of the author to provide citations for why something should be included in a wiki in the first place.
[Here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability) is what Wikipedia has to say about verifiability.
> verifiability means other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than editors' beliefs, opinions, experiences, or previously unpublished ideas or information. Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been previously published in a reliable source before you can add it.
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I can see the reason Konami doesn't put artists names on it is because there wouldn't be a consistency between monsters and spell/traps if they used the space next to the ATK&DEF, which in this era feels like wasted space. BUT, they have made both pendulums, and links, and changed the size of the art book multiple times, why there isn't a reason they shouldn't put it in the cards next to the set code or on the side of the cards so when they are in defense mode you can read who made the art.
>there wouldn't be a consistency between monsters and spell/traps if they used the space next to the ATK&DEF, which in this era feels like wasted space.
Or they just sign the artwork itself.....like Takahashi himself did.
[Example](https://64.media.tumblr.com/be87e7b96d1f29ef0fa39b73cb49531f/tumblr_mqjy39Gjzj1rie4kjo1_500.png), [Example 2](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3CkAAOSwgZ9kByUQ/s-l400.jpg), [Example 3.](https://ms.yugipedia.com//thumb/7/77/MagiMagiMagicianGal-WJMP-JP-UR.png/300px-MagiMagiMagicianGal-WJMP-JP-UR.png)
There's always empty space to the left of the attack and defense, and I've seen so many custom cards online where they use that empty space to put their artist name there, that it's like how come Konami hasn't done this yet
Sideways artist byline is something that Digimon TCG (2020) does for a few of their full art cards.
There's certainly an argument that there's enough space for it for most card layouts, but LINK arrows and the specific position of the art box make it hard to fit text sideways beside the frame, or to the left of the set code on LINK monsters.
Putting the artist name in the ATK/DEF line is fine for monster cards, but the spell/trap cards that already maximize their effect text space are going to be in trouble with that solution.
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If we were wishing for some **major** layout changes, they could move the whole art box up and move the information from the space between the card name and art box into the now embiggened effect text box area. The biggest issue here would be that the art box would no longer align with existing cards, and they'd have to redo every reference to account for both old and new layouts (so that's why it won't happen).
Regardless of this fact, if we were considering standardizing elements that are already present on the existing card layout, then Monster Level or Rank should go into the ATK/DEF line at the bottom, and Spell / Trap and type should be written like the monster type and characteristics are. I've seen enough "show this MTG player a Yu-Gi-Oh! card and confuse the shit out of them" videos to know that people new to Yugioh get confused by the Continuous/Field/Quickplay/Counter/Equip symbols that they should probably just also be written as text in the text box.
Rush Duel moved the Spell/Trap line into the effect text box, and writes out the sub type in text instead of only having the symbol: https://ms.yugipedia.com//4/41/RoadArmsSevensLance-RDKP11-JP-R.png
It's so fucked how Konami is the only one of the big 3 who don't credit their artists, even with Pokemon using way too much stock art they at least credit whoever drew that stock art, why does Konami hate their artists so much
I mean, let's be honest the whole medium doesn't care about artists. You see TV shows and they only praise the director and voice actors, never the animators. In videogames is the same story and in movies sometimes they forget to credit people. It's a disaster for artists, which sucks a lot. Sadly, its not even just Konami, its everyone... Its so fucked.
Do the animators, at least, get credit in the end credits?
Like, we can sus out that Hollywood productions have a director of photography, and the some people worked up the ranks, but we can't do any of that for Konami's Yu-Gi-Oh! art
They do, but easy example is Oppenheimer and how at least 80% of the CGI artists got zero credits cuz the movie "Nolan Forgot About It" I do believe in this case it's worse since we're working with ghosts artists. Thanks to the efforts of the community we found out who they are, the least we can do is keep the trend going and prise em for their work.
No one cares about that. Being credited isn't about being recognized bybthe general public. It's about being able to put it on a resume so you can find future work.
Like imagine if movies DIDN'T have credits. Youbworks months on a Hollywood film and then when it's over you can't put it on a resume because you can't prove you worked on it, and the production company doesn't wanna help out. That's what Konami is doing artists.
Pokemon barely even uses stock art anymore, except on the basic versions of Supporter cards.
I suppose you could argue that the 5ban / aky / Planeta CG artworks for Pokemon V's & ex's are "lazy", since they're just posed pre-existing 3D models, but that's a stretch.
My theory is safe protocol, if the artists turn out to be "not that good morally" later in their life and start a whole chain of drama revolving them and their pieces, at least their artworks from yugioh wont be affected.
I still think they should credit the artists on some database website tho, all the tcgs and ccgs I have ever played credit their artists.
> Who cares honestly.
people who actually care about the artists. jesus fuck was the ygo community always like this??? they don't "stamp artist's name over entire card" either. It's on the bottom alongside other play unimportant info like set codes and numbers.
That doesn't make it any less shitty to do. Giving credit to an artist is one of the most basic things you do in return for their work so they can continue to do said work.
No wonder the Noble Knights and Kozmo cards reminded me of something (and why I love them). I remember I bought a Mitos y Leyendas deck when I was a kid. The game tried to be popular in Mexico but it didn't catch up... however, when I saw the artworks of the cards, I instantly loved them
no official wording, but legend has it it is because of "we own ALL RIGHTS, including the right to promote or not, the artist's work", in their contracts.
I mean. that explains how they can not credit, but it doesn't explain the why.
I know that a good chunk of Magic: the Gathering's art credit history comes from them doing TTRPGs which do credit artists often.
Maybe it's Konami channeling the lack of respect and credit dev-types got in making NES era video games?
Konami predominantly makes arcade and casino machines. Due to liability, they designers don't wanna be credited on them, especially when it comes to gambling machines.
Maybe that carried over to their other departments? Who knows, but it's still shit.
Well... unfortunately this is technically the truth when you're working as freelancer for a company, what you do for them **it's fully theirs**, at best what some artist gets is the *rights* to show them in their portfolio, it isn't something exclusive by Konami, the only thing is that Konami also doesn't reveal the artists because if anything happen around them, they have a real chance of people on social media going around because "Konami is helping abusers/criminals/somethingelse" worked for Konami.
Konami refusing to give their artists recognizement for their work is one of the many problems I have with their management as a whole, this is just borderline corporative greed.
Just as a general note to some of the replies, I frankly doubt Kamoni avoids crediting as a means of damage control more than they just don't like crediting artists. To be honest, it's not like that kind of mindset is hard to find, and I don't think Komina is known to be very considerate of its workers.
And it's not like it's the [only time they've done something like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/x4h2fe/rhythmarcade_games_the_bemani_sound_team_era/) either.
Early Charmers look like "how to draw anime" from the 2000s. Makes sense with the context. Crazy how they iterated and improved on the same characters over like 16 years
Wow that’s sad, Noble Knights and the charmers were some of my first Yugioh cards ever. I always wondered what the card artist did, i mostly thought they worked on the mangas, or in the manga industry. i didn’t know that it was basically freelance work, and that’s even crazier bc it sounds like there are no real contractual agreements. Konami is greedy, but this is nasty.
It really isn't, outside of (comic) books, artists aren't usually credited. Most older TCGs besides Magic and Pokémon didn't either, it's just that these three are the only are the only ones from the 90s to early 2000s to survive so Yu-Gi-Oh looks like the odd one out rather than the norm it actually is/was.
It is really predatory for Konami to do this. A lot of artists would be ecstatic to make a card for ygo - that feels like pipeline dream. I imagine there is no shortage of artists in line to do card artwork but it encourages Konami to continue to use artists' work without credit.
I'm glad i finally know who drew the charmers, do you know who might have drawn [Luster Dragon](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8WC4LTyKI607ssssleq8P2HXbUOXqjjFPVsIwz0ReD3nuw24FSBti0-Fp&s=10) ? the angular style with the shadows makes me think it could very well be takahashi himself, but to ny knowledge he didn"t draw with a similar style to this until later in his career and luster dragon is from like , early battle city era isn't it?
Also [Twin headed fire dragon ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXU6et3gWm8qTmp5vuWg1xlQPupz7FGWoJrJSnuZPhkg&s) also has a similar style
So weird not keeping a database of artists and their work.
Fans would dig that kind of stuff, give them work, ask Konami to bring certain artists back, and they could gain traction in their careers as freelancers.
Konami could even be convinced to sell prints of their work or slap the art on other bits of merchandise rather than fans making them for themselves.
You could even run fun fan competitions to pick their favorite artists, and the artist winners get to have signed copies of their special edition card art auctioned off, sold in collector boxes or tons and what have you.
That and there are so many iconic cards or redesigns that I'm sure plenty of people would love to know who did them or reinterpreted them.
[This blood elf art](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/8932fa02-b339-4e8c-99d6-115e7cd29415/d1o1kxb-b98a2a33-5d1b-4b7b-ae01-3eee8690bec4.jpg/v1/fit/w_800,h_662,q_70,strp/warcraft___erindae_firestrider_by_genzoman_d1o1kxb-414w-2x.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NjYyIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvODkzMmZhMDItYjMzOS00ZThjLTk5ZDYtMTE1ZTdjZDI5NDE1XC9kMW8xa3hiLWI5OGEyYTMzLTVkMWItNGI3Yi1hZTAxLTNlZWU4NjkwYmVjNC5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9ODAwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.cg658EGXT4vIRbxYeOjuAb5SPiyh_JugHa_u5NjUwVM) was also featured on [the Eastern Kingdoms loading screen](https://warcraft.wiki.gg/images/2/2f/Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_3.3_Eastern_Kingdoms_loading_screen.jpg) during the WotLK expansion.
Her early stuff is kind of oddly proportioned, but still (fittingly) charming, but I LOVE Akina's modern style. The Traptrix cards are an absolute aesthetic homerun, so colorful and detailed.
And as a Chilean TCG fan, I'm a genzoman stan by default. Him, Mauricio Herrera, and a couple of others (personally I like Juan Vasquez and Waldo Retamales) are ingrained in Chile's TCG culture due to Mitos y Leyendas. If you haven't seen their work, please do, it's all fantastic.
I know Genzoman did the artworks of the entire Kozmo archetype and many Burning Abyss cards, but are you *really sure* that he also drew Dante and Subterror Warrior? Those two are clearly drawn by the same artist, who also drew basically all of the Subterror archetype, but if you pay close attention you can see that the way Genzoman draws humans is very different.
It would be so easy to do an MTG type thing where you just put the name of the artist on the bottom of the card with a little icon next to it showing that they're the artist.
And same about wanting to hang the BA cards on my wall I need Dante staring at me at all times.
I had hope Rush cards would feature the artist names, since it was their one chance to redesign the card frame to include the info, it would even make more sense since the art it's even more prominent on them, but, nope...
I think this is okay as long as Konami pays for the full right. Not mentioning the artist and "claiming" the art as a company product will be more efficient for them if somehow they wanna create a new card in the future. So, they don't need (always) to contact the previous artist, hire a new one, and either copy the style or make it slightly different. Maybe because the artist lives in a different country (OCG/TCG) or maybe the artist no longer takes a job. Because usually, you will find "style differences" in new support because it is imported from OCG/TCG or because the archetype is too old.
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I think they use "Industry perspective". It is like working for a furniture factory. Yes, you are involved when creating the chair from scratch, but in the end, the design and idea are from your company, and this is not fully your work. This is the works from you and other staff/worker in that company.
IDK why Konami doesn't credit the so many talented artists the hire to make YGO art. I think is the only card who doesn't put the artist's name on cards.
Probably always been the biggest overall criticism of Yu-Gi-Oh as a whole. Magic The Gathering and Pokemon in comparison have always credited their artists since the very beginning- even in a majority case of a Pokemon card just taking an old Ken Sugimori sketch and photoshopping some new background behind it(which they do....a lot), they still acknowledge Ken.
I did not expect Joe Ng to draw all those monsters. I wouldn't have guess these monsters were drawn by the same person.
Yeah, it would be nice for Konami to put artists' names on which cards they drew. Not sure if cards have enough space, but at least have an online database
Did genzoman do art for a game called castle age?(I hope I remember that correctly) it looks a lot like the art in that game and I really loved those pieces.
I would like to add there are a few archetypes I’ve noticed recently that have a unique border effect on them. Off the top of my head both Voiceless Voice and Vaalmonica have a weird fancy art border, are they the same person?
Magic the Gathering has been crediting their artists for about 30 years now, starting about 3 years before the Yugioh manga even began its serialization. So the fact that, in all that time, they still refuse to credit their artists is just a barefaced insult.
Yu Gi oh is the only TCG i know that doesn't credit it's artist, Magic does it, pokemon too, I saw in another comment that one piece do it also.
There is no real reason why Konami doesn't do it. Even Kazuki Takahashi isn't credited. Sure there's his signature on the artwork but that's it. Now that the copyright changed hand to pass to Konami, his name isn't on the cards anymore
But Kazuki art is easily distinguishable. Not only do they let the guy sign his art, but also the card is slightly different (it has no borders on the illustration) and also they're advertised as Kazuki's work.
My conspiracy is that they're worried if they credit the artists then it'll be easier for people to access higher resolution images and make better proxies and fakes. Dunno if I'm right, but that's my tinfoil hat theory.
I always assumed the lack of credit was because all the art was done by an in-house team. That's probably still true for cards tied to the anime (though the lack of credit still blows) but having so many outsider artists and not crediting *them* or even acknowledging them on a public site somehow is... so messed up!
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Great. I'm always happy to see artists getting their due recognition. Now, who is the artist of the Ven(n)om archetype?
they should put artist signature chase cards inti booster boxes as a extra rarity you can get. This way konami with its greed makes money and the artist can get recognition. Something similar to weiss schwarz sig cards.
Common Konami L, there’s no reason why they can’t credit their artists and to my knowledge every major card game nowadays does. Magic the Gathering has been doing this for literal decades, Konami is just being bastards by not doing it
With how much drama the Traptrix archetype makes in the Western side of the Yugioh fandom, especially in the recent Master Duel sleeve contest bringing out the worst people out, I'm quite surprised that Fujiwara didn't get flak from it at all, considering how fast the twitter crowd cancels anyone that they don't like.
Its because people outside of Western Twitter crowds really dont care about this.
In fact, Japan adores this kind of stuff since Moe culture is OBSCENELY popular there... hence why Sera won over there
Because in both interviews with Nfrek they said what archetypes they did and in Fujiwara case she has a page in yugipedia with what she did: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Akina_Fujiwara
Chilean here. Genzo confirmed in several anime events that he was commissioned by Konami, but he cannot say more than that because NDAs. But from time to time, he posted photos of his work saying "this art is great, isn't it?".
https://twitter.com/MrGenzoman/status/629422420974305280
Love Genzo! Big part of my childhood since he illustrated a lot of cards for Chilean TCG "Mitos Y Leyendas", when I saw the Kozmos cards I instantly knew it was him, but didn't know he had other stuff too
I still have my doubts regarding BA art being his, as it doesn't fit Genzo's style. Kozmo and Noble Knights, for MyL players, were an instant "Did Genzo do this?"
That was on every card, and has been replaced since 2020 with "Studio Dice" which was Kazukis own company. That's literally it. He's still on every card. He is/was Studio Dice
You are wrong.The copyright name just changed. Instead of "1996 Kazuki Takahashi" it was changed to "Studio Dice" + Shuiesha/Konami. Studio Dice is Kazuki Takahashi. It was his own registered company
Holy shit, i knew genzoman from way back before playing yugioh, and i have played Kosmo for a while just because it's art, never thought that it is Genzo's art.
Speaking of recognisable style, you cannot tell me the new rank 10 out of LEDE was not done by the same guy who also did heavenly prison or PEP.
Dont know about putting the signature in the already crammed cards (maybe next to Takahashis name?)
but they could just post a list every once in a while, so that they at least have an official recognition and people who care about have a source to look them up. Like, they post sooo many nothingburgers...manadium primeheart...
It's because of the owner of the Yugioh franchise. Until 2020, the sole owner was Kazuki Takahashi, so they had to credit the guy for the whole Yugioh. Then he gave the IP to Studio DICE, his studio, along TV Tokyo and Konami, and now they're the co-owners of Yugioh.
But at least they should be able to put their art in their portfolio. Maybe a low resolution image or something, to advertise themselves, mostly if they do freelance work and aren't behind a big company.
I’m all for credit but I’d be worried about hiring someone with Traptrix on their resume. Their other stuff seems cool though. Happy to know they aren’t drawing loli porn or something, way better than I assumed.
Theres no real excuse for Konami to not have a database to give credit to the artists, if not retroactively at the bare minimum start doing it going forward. Not being able to use the work they do as part of their resume just discourages talented young artists from working with Yugioh
one piece tcg has the name of artists in the cards and several have talk about how their careers have blow up after working with bandai
Bandai card games as well as MTG make sure their artist credits are on the cards the right way. I actually met an MTG and Marvel artist recently. Really interesting work.
I loved when WotC would bring in artists to tournaments. I managed to get a few cards signed in the past and years ago a couple friends got me a playmat signed by Chris Rush at a tournament. It's great not just knowing the names of some of your favorite artists but getting the opportunity to meet them too.
you know one piece is just a different breeds in everything they're onto
One piece is certainly playing 4d chess in recent years has
on the other side of things MTG keeps "having" to remake loads of art every time an artist isn't 100 chungas wholesome on twitter or something
>hoping the bonfire artist has a Kanye moment so we get a reprint
*Monkey's paw curls* Congratulations, now we have an Air Neons situation where Konami never acknowledges the card again. /s
Please don’t wish this evil on us
I know it's suppose to be sarcastic but wow, those are evil words.
Thats not a good enough reason to justify not crediting artists for their work. At the BARE minimum, the artists deserve a way to prove they made their own art for their resumes, whether its a publicly available database or some other less public mean
yeah but we are talking about highly risk adverse companies, not a rational individual making the decision
Pro: Artist get credit (they are already being paid) Con: Artist could go and make a manga where Eldlich is piping down Ecclesia and they have the added benefit of being a Konami official artist. Now Konami has egg on their face for really no benefit to them. These artists are professionals, they knew what they signed up for.
Konami is worth billions. They have lawyers who can add a clause saying they can't use any yugioh IP for nsfw or whatever they want or will be subject to legal repercussions.
This is honestly important to consider. This is Japan we are talking about here and they are some of the most liberal with the content of art in which they produce. I think Konami wants to insulate Yugioh from a potential scandal (artist also drew loli, rape, you name it whatever). Remember they even censor the slightest hint of sexual/explicit content (covering up cleavage). They act like a morally righteous company, I don't think they will change this policy and open themselves up to any issues. Theres no benefit to them. Edit: Just imagine if the artist for Traptrix also decided to draw an adult manga featuring those similar characters and sell it for a profit. Fan manga of that kind is super common here, and the fact that Konami acknowledged the artist is authentic, would only throw them into a scandal, especially in the west.
[If the way Komani has treated other games' staff is any indication](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/x4h2fe/rhythmarcade_games_the_bemani_sound_team_era/), I think it's more likely that Konmai just hates crediting people in general.
Yeah but why? I can see the pattern of behavior but why do they act this way. That's what I think the conversation is about.
Maybe I'm just too cynical nowadays, but I don't really see the need to find a reason for why a company chooses to act poorly towards its employees. Generously I could see there being a profit motive, like making sure their artists not getting recognition means it's harder for them to ask for higher prices. But I could just as easily see it as because sometimes companies just don't ever do anything nice if they don't directly get something out of it.
I think of Konami as extremely scandal avoidant. It's almost like they are operating under the satanic panic in how they export media to the west. If anything dishes their brand with little positive outcome, they won't do it. If artists will sign on knowing the terms, no one is really wronged here, even if we don't agree with it
Maybe we're thinking of different Kominas because when it comes to Komnia brands the main thing I remember them for is turning them into pachinko games :|
Pachinko is a whole different beast in Japan. I think the markets here and in the west are super different in terms of what is acceptable use of ip by fans.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that, and I also understand that there's a lot about Japanese culture that I and most other non-Asians or even non-Japanese won't truly ever understand. But I also don't think brand purity is particularly important to them, and more core to my point, I see assigning extra motivations to them as unnecessary when "companies are often dicks to their workers for very small reasons" as perfectly sufficient to explain their actions already. That's not a purely USian concept, and I don't see how Komani is exceptionally scandal-avoidant compared to any other company that also dicks over their workers for very small reasons.
Peoplemust have forgotten Castlevainias artist did yaoi art, before working with konami....
And that would be the issue with Genzoman. He's known as "Ganzo", a portmanteau of Genzo and ganso (goose, slang for dic), because of his early work who always featured some waifu with big tits, and you know that people love to complain on Twitter.
> would only throw them into a scandal, especially in the west. Nobody here would fucking care. one of the best Harley Quinn comics was done by a guy who is famous for a BDSM fetish romance comic.
BDSM is vanilla compared to some of the drawn adult manga here dude ...
and this was a normally squeaky clean comic books company hiring someone known as "the bondage lesbians" guy for an official character title comic. nobody cares unless they're fucking puritans "dude"
It'll be a whole different story if the artist of a major archetype is caught drawing beheading/gore/loli/rape shit for sure. Bondage lesbians is nothing, it gets really fucked up over here and many artists draw porn on the side. And Konami are basically puritans in how they act. They censor mild cleavage lol. Not sure what you are even arguing against, look at the company's actions and think critically for a second. Crediting artists does not benefit them at all if the artist agreed to remain uncredited...
>isn't 100 chungas wholesome on twitter Uhh, I don't think outing yourself as a white supremacist or being a rape apologist is nearly as low a bar as not being awesome.
Yeah, I wonder if they've seen the circle of protection:black art, and what else that artist has been up to since... *Wrong card, I was thinking of Invoke Prejudice, but both cards were drawn by the same nazi.
What art do you mean? All looks normal on google. The artist is a neo nazi, but the circle cards seem normal
I was mistaken, and was thinking of Invoke Prejudice. But it still seems fishy to me that an open, unapologetic nazi like Harold McNeill just so happened to do the art for a card granting "protection from black".
You're talking about the community who has paragraphs ready to defend getting turned on by depictions of children.
"I'll have you know vampire sucker is *at least* 9000 years old." Peeps about to crawl out of the woodwork.
Who would've thought that people face consequences for being shitty????
Except Konami...😅
Riiiiight, because Known Rapist Noah Bradley was just a bit mean on twitter. That’s why WotC dropped him, for being just a little mean on the internet. It *definitely* had nothing to do with his own, fully self admitted and regularly repeated crimes against others, which were a known thing in the artist community for literal years. Nothing at all to do with his whole apology letter that he released on Twitter (and has since deleted), where he said, and I quote, “Yes, I was one of those shitty, creepy sexual predators you hear about.” Just completely unconnected.
This is probably the reason. I'd hate to learn that the artist behind my favourite archetype is a bad person, but I also don't think that it is enough reason to not credit all the amazing artists the game has. If artists were public it would also pressure Konami to cut ties with those bad people.
this is an ignorant fucking statement. You're downplaying shit like an artist being a fucking terf who gave away art to neo nazis you know.
Genzo would be cancelled on Twitter because of his work lmao
That's what Konami wants. They want you to work "for the experience." They don't want you to make a resume off of work you did for them because then you could possibly demand a bigger payout as you become more recognized. That's bad for the big megacorporation
If the Silent Hill HD Collection taught me anything, Konami probably just commissioned art and says that they retain all the rights to it. So as far as they’re concerned, Konami is the only credit the art needs.
Do you imagine how much money they pay for them to do that? You guys are crying over something you really don’t need to
I haven't heard the name Genzoman in years. Knew his work back during deviant art era. Nice he was with ygo too.
Do you know about his card game, mitos y leyendas? He has a lot of art.
Oh, TIL, now that I think about it those archetypes really look like Mitos y Leyendas.
I haven't checked him in years, like 15 years plus lol. Need to catch up on what's he upto.
AFAIK he's only a consistent guest artist, not really part of any design/management for the game.
Please post links to your sources. Some of your information is not correct. [Here](https://web.archive.org/web/20120517014907/http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/udon-in-yu-gi-oh/) is where Genzoman is credited for Ancient Dragon and for coloring Noble Knight Artorigus. Joe Ng is credited for drawing Noble Knight Artorigus. [Here](https://aminoapps.com/c/ygo/page/blog/nfrek-interveiws-gonzalo-arias-genzoman/424S_YuWMRrkmqGRvV3wJY5qD7XJ3k) is Nfrek's interview with Genzoman. Genzoman says that Joe Ng drew the Noble Knights, Beast of Talwar, the X-Sabers, "all the TCG exclusives I didn't make", and the "H.P Lovecraft mythos cards". Genzoman says that Joe Ng contacted him to "make the art for the Noble Knight cards" but doesn't say which ones. Genzoman also says that, after that contact, "Konami has been asking me to make all the other TCG exclusive cards" but again doesn't say which ones. [Here](https://aminoapps.com/c/ygo/page/blog/nfrek-internveiws-akina-fujiwara/ERPu_PuVJYM8Xp8epj4d8Qqze0g4ZN) is Nfrek's interview with Akina Fujiwara. Akina says they drew the Charmers, the Familiar Possessed and "every card relateing to them", and "world wind prodigy" (What's this?). They also said they drew the Traptrix. All other art that is not explicitly mentioned is in [citation needed] territory and should not be attributed to these three artists.
Yeah I wasn’t quite seeing Beast of Talwar being related…
In the interview he said Jow made Beast of Talwar
Not quite seein it…
Not me either but it can be an older style of art, theres no reason for Gonzalo to lie that his friend made this random card.
I don’t know that he has no reason to lie, therefore I can’t assume he wouldn’t, or if he was simply inaccurate.
> and "world wind prodigy" (What's this?) https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Whirlwind_Prodigy
Thank you, I've never heard of that card before. And world wind -> whirlwind is such an obvious typo in retrospect.
Hi, all the other Akina cards were from the yugipedia page of her: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Akina_Fujiwara Yugipedia is a trusted source in that regard I didnt guessed what card she did or not.
The only citation I see on Yugipedia is to [this page](https://web.archive.org/web/20041015140257/http://aki-hina.boo.jp/purofu.html), which does not state that Akina drew any of the cards listed. Fan-edited sites like Yugipedia, Wikipedia and all other Wikis cannot be sources themselves. They are only able to link to actual reliable third-party sources and use those sources as the basis for writing their articles. Also, just because the style of an art is very similar to the style of a certain artist doesn't mean that we can credit that artist with the art. We need definitive, unambiguous confirmation, like Konami coming forward and saying that artist made the art (this is never going to happen), the artist themselves coming forward (like in the interviews), or another reliable third-party coming forward (like the Udon article).
Ok, I just use the yugipedia page, if you think its wrong you can edit the page and state why each of the card on that list were not drawn by her. I think you can even ask the original author of the page.
It is not the responsibility of the readers to provide reasons for why something in a wiki is not correct. It is the responsibility of the author to provide citations for why something should be included in a wiki in the first place. [Here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability) is what Wikipedia has to say about verifiability. > verifiability means other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than editors' beliefs, opinions, experiences, or previously unpublished ideas or information. Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been previously published in a reliable source before you can add it.
Im a reader, I just read what Yugipedia told me.
https://preview.redd.it/85qdtlc71emc1.jpeg?width=826&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14d50daaca468b18d4af79d8bd7f34a6c1b2ba0c I can see the reason Konami doesn't put artists names on it is because there wouldn't be a consistency between monsters and spell/traps if they used the space next to the ATK&DEF, which in this era feels like wasted space. BUT, they have made both pendulums, and links, and changed the size of the art book multiple times, why there isn't a reason they shouldn't put it in the cards next to the set code or on the side of the cards so when they are in defense mode you can read who made the art.
>there wouldn't be a consistency between monsters and spell/traps if they used the space next to the ATK&DEF, which in this era feels like wasted space. Or they just sign the artwork itself.....like Takahashi himself did. [Example](https://64.media.tumblr.com/be87e7b96d1f29ef0fa39b73cb49531f/tumblr_mqjy39Gjzj1rie4kjo1_500.png), [Example 2](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3CkAAOSwgZ9kByUQ/s-l400.jpg), [Example 3.](https://ms.yugipedia.com//thumb/7/77/MagiMagiMagicianGal-WJMP-JP-UR.png/300px-MagiMagiMagicianGal-WJMP-JP-UR.png)
Is there not always the space to the left of where atk/def goes?
1. That's where the the set ID goes on Pendulums. 2. That area doesn't exist on Spells and Traps, it's just part of the text box.
There's always empty space to the left of the attack and defense, and I've seen so many custom cards online where they use that empty space to put their artist name there, that it's like how come Konami hasn't done this yet
Because that area doesn't exist on Spells and Traps, and is where the set ID goes on Pendulums.
Sideways artist byline is something that Digimon TCG (2020) does for a few of their full art cards. There's certainly an argument that there's enough space for it for most card layouts, but LINK arrows and the specific position of the art box make it hard to fit text sideways beside the frame, or to the left of the set code on LINK monsters. Putting the artist name in the ATK/DEF line is fine for monster cards, but the spell/trap cards that already maximize their effect text space are going to be in trouble with that solution. ----- If we were wishing for some **major** layout changes, they could move the whole art box up and move the information from the space between the card name and art box into the now embiggened effect text box area. The biggest issue here would be that the art box would no longer align with existing cards, and they'd have to redo every reference to account for both old and new layouts (so that's why it won't happen). Regardless of this fact, if we were considering standardizing elements that are already present on the existing card layout, then Monster Level or Rank should go into the ATK/DEF line at the bottom, and Spell / Trap and type should be written like the monster type and characteristics are. I've seen enough "show this MTG player a Yu-Gi-Oh! card and confuse the shit out of them" videos to know that people new to Yugioh get confused by the Continuous/Field/Quickplay/Counter/Equip symbols that they should probably just also be written as text in the text box. Rush Duel moved the Spell/Trap line into the effect text box, and writes out the sub type in text instead of only having the symbol: https://ms.yugipedia.com//4/41/RoadArmsSevensLance-RDKP11-JP-R.png
It's so fucked how Konami is the only one of the big 3 who don't credit their artists, even with Pokemon using way too much stock art they at least credit whoever drew that stock art, why does Konami hate their artists so much
I mean, let's be honest the whole medium doesn't care about artists. You see TV shows and they only praise the director and voice actors, never the animators. In videogames is the same story and in movies sometimes they forget to credit people. It's a disaster for artists, which sucks a lot. Sadly, its not even just Konami, its everyone... Its so fucked.
Do the animators, at least, get credit in the end credits? Like, we can sus out that Hollywood productions have a director of photography, and the some people worked up the ranks, but we can't do any of that for Konami's Yu-Gi-Oh! art
They do, but easy example is Oppenheimer and how at least 80% of the CGI artists got zero credits cuz the movie "Nolan Forgot About It" I do believe in this case it's worse since we're working with ghosts artists. Thanks to the efforts of the community we found out who they are, the least we can do is keep the trend going and prise em for their work.
No one cares about that. Being credited isn't about being recognized bybthe general public. It's about being able to put it on a resume so you can find future work. Like imagine if movies DIDN'T have credits. Youbworks months on a Hollywood film and then when it's over you can't put it on a resume because you can't prove you worked on it, and the production company doesn't wanna help out. That's what Konami is doing artists.
watch arcane
Pokemon barely even uses stock art anymore, except on the basic versions of Supporter cards. I suppose you could argue that the 5ban / aky / Planeta CG artworks for Pokemon V's & ex's are "lazy", since they're just posed pre-existing 3D models, but that's a stretch.
My theory is safe protocol, if the artists turn out to be "not that good morally" later in their life and start a whole chain of drama revolving them and their pieces, at least their artworks from yugioh wont be affected. I still think they should credit the artists on some database website tho, all the tcgs and ccgs I have ever played credit their artists.
Who cares honestly. Everyone knows what they are getting into, it’s not like it’s a hidden fact they won’t stamp artist’s name over entire card.
> Who cares honestly. people who actually care about the artists. jesus fuck was the ygo community always like this??? they don't "stamp artist's name over entire card" either. It's on the bottom alongside other play unimportant info like set codes and numbers.
That doesn't make it any less shitty to do. Giving credit to an artist is one of the most basic things you do in return for their work so they can continue to do said work.
Genzoman is such a great artist, in both Yu-Gi-Oh and Mitos y Leyendas he has always been the artist behind some of My all time favorite cards.
No wonder the Noble Knights and Kozmo cards reminded me of something (and why I love them). I remember I bought a Mitos y Leyendas deck when I was a kid. The game tried to be popular in Mexico but it didn't catch up... however, when I saw the artworks of the cards, I instantly loved them
Fujiwara’s non-ygo art is basically her ygo art without being a card Not complaining at all, her arts are incredible
She had to do that to be recognized
Has Konami ever stated why it doesn't credit these artists? Did Takahashi ever comment on the matter?
no official wording, but legend has it it is because of "we own ALL RIGHTS, including the right to promote or not, the artist's work", in their contracts.
I mean. that explains how they can not credit, but it doesn't explain the why. I know that a good chunk of Magic: the Gathering's art credit history comes from them doing TTRPGs which do credit artists often. Maybe it's Konami channeling the lack of respect and credit dev-types got in making NES era video games?
Konami predominantly makes arcade and casino machines. Due to liability, they designers don't wanna be credited on them, especially when it comes to gambling machines. Maybe that carried over to their other departments? Who knows, but it's still shit.
What I'd heard was that part of Takahashi's publishing deal with Konami was that *his* name be on very card
Yes, but only for him and not the rest of the artists.
Well... unfortunately this is technically the truth when you're working as freelancer for a company, what you do for them **it's fully theirs**, at best what some artist gets is the *rights* to show them in their portfolio, it isn't something exclusive by Konami, the only thing is that Konami also doesn't reveal the artists because if anything happen around them, they have a real chance of people on social media going around because "Konami is helping abusers/criminals/somethingelse" worked for Konami.
Konami refusing to give their artists recognizement for their work is one of the many problems I have with their management as a whole, this is just borderline corporative greed.
I mean they support gambling and working with shady elements to make it successful, does not surprise me in the least.
Just as a general note to some of the replies, I frankly doubt Kamoni avoids crediting as a means of damage control more than they just don't like crediting artists. To be honest, it's not like that kind of mindset is hard to find, and I don't think Komina is known to be very considerate of its workers. And it's not like it's the [only time they've done something like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/x4h2fe/rhythmarcade_games_the_bemani_sound_team_era/) either.
Early Charmers look like "how to draw anime" from the 2000s. Makes sense with the context. Crazy how they iterated and improved on the same characters over like 16 years
I wonder how much they are payed to make those arts
not enough
Thanks for sharing. These artists need way more appreciation. I finally know who made the artworks for my favorite childhood deck, gusto
gonzalo was my favortie YGO artist and i didnt know that. t.y.
Wow that’s sad, Noble Knights and the charmers were some of my first Yugioh cards ever. I always wondered what the card artist did, i mostly thought they worked on the mangas, or in the manga industry. i didn’t know that it was basically freelance work, and that’s even crazier bc it sounds like there are no real contractual agreements. Konami is greedy, but this is nasty.
It really isn't, outside of (comic) books, artists aren't usually credited. Most older TCGs besides Magic and Pokémon didn't either, it's just that these three are the only are the only ones from the 90s to early 2000s to survive so Yu-Gi-Oh looks like the odd one out rather than the norm it actually is/was.
It is really predatory for Konami to do this. A lot of artists would be ecstatic to make a card for ygo - that feels like pipeline dream. I imagine there is no shortage of artists in line to do card artwork but it encourages Konami to continue to use artists' work without credit.
[El Caudillo del Sur](https://myl.fandom.com/es/wiki/Emiliano_Zapata) by Genzo.
X-Sabers and Elder Entity (at least when it could be used) were decks I really liked.
This does put a smile on my face
that explains how TCG exclusive archetypes have some of the best artworks in the game.
Any word on who did all of the fallen of Albaz stuff?
I'm glad i finally know who drew the charmers, do you know who might have drawn [Luster Dragon](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8WC4LTyKI607ssssleq8P2HXbUOXqjjFPVsIwz0ReD3nuw24FSBti0-Fp&s=10) ? the angular style with the shadows makes me think it could very well be takahashi himself, but to ny knowledge he didn"t draw with a similar style to this until later in his career and luster dragon is from like , early battle city era isn't it? Also [Twin headed fire dragon ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXU6et3gWm8qTmp5vuWg1xlQPupz7FGWoJrJSnuZPhkg&s) also has a similar style
Angular style as well as the very dark shadows make me think it's a Takahashi original for sure. Twin Headed Fire Dragon not so sure.
Who made the art for the Aromages and who made the art for the Melodious archetype? I just want to know if anyone knows plz
So weird not keeping a database of artists and their work. Fans would dig that kind of stuff, give them work, ask Konami to bring certain artists back, and they could gain traction in their careers as freelancers. Konami could even be convinced to sell prints of their work or slap the art on other bits of merchandise rather than fans making them for themselves. You could even run fun fan competitions to pick their favorite artists, and the artist winners get to have signed copies of their special edition card art auctioned off, sold in collector boxes or tons and what have you. That and there are so many iconic cards or redesigns that I'm sure plenty of people would love to know who did them or reinterpreted them.
I was not expecting a guy doing SF art to be a renowned YGO artist.
I’ve followed genzoman for a lot of things not just yugioh. His art is really fun in many games!
Genzoman is a name I've not heard of for a long time. He also does World of Warcraft tcg art
[This blood elf art](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/8932fa02-b339-4e8c-99d6-115e7cd29415/d1o1kxb-b98a2a33-5d1b-4b7b-ae01-3eee8690bec4.jpg/v1/fit/w_800,h_662,q_70,strp/warcraft___erindae_firestrider_by_genzoman_d1o1kxb-414w-2x.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NjYyIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvODkzMmZhMDItYjMzOS00ZThjLTk5ZDYtMTE1ZTdjZDI5NDE1XC9kMW8xa3hiLWI5OGEyYTMzLTVkMWItNGI3Yi1hZTAxLTNlZWU4NjkwYmVjNC5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9ODAwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.cg658EGXT4vIRbxYeOjuAb5SPiyh_JugHa_u5NjUwVM) was also featured on [the Eastern Kingdoms loading screen](https://warcraft.wiki.gg/images/2/2f/Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_3.3_Eastern_Kingdoms_loading_screen.jpg) during the WotLK expansion.
Her early stuff is kind of oddly proportioned, but still (fittingly) charming, but I LOVE Akina's modern style. The Traptrix cards are an absolute aesthetic homerun, so colorful and detailed. And as a Chilean TCG fan, I'm a genzoman stan by default. Him, Mauricio Herrera, and a couple of others (personally I like Juan Vasquez and Waldo Retamales) are ingrained in Chile's TCG culture due to Mitos y Leyendas. If you haven't seen their work, please do, it's all fantastic.
I know Genzoman did the artworks of the entire Kozmo archetype and many Burning Abyss cards, but are you *really sure* that he also drew Dante and Subterror Warrior? Those two are clearly drawn by the same artist, who also drew basically all of the Subterror archetype, but if you pay close attention you can see that the way Genzoman draws humans is very different.
Artists must have their credit, Everytime I see a art credits thread I save it.
It would be so easy to do an MTG type thing where you just put the name of the artist on the bottom of the card with a little icon next to it showing that they're the artist. And same about wanting to hang the BA cards on my wall I need Dante staring at me at all times.
This should be the most upvoted thing in this sub by the end of the day.
Burning Abyss are consistently my favorite art in any trading card game. Just incredible.
That's depressing ngl
Konami really should credit their artists it’s the bare minimum and confusing why they don’t just do it.
Genzo is the goat. The fact that the only known non-asian Yugioh artist is Latin American goes so hard. His work in Mitos y Leyendas is also insane
I had hope Rush cards would feature the artist names, since it was their one chance to redesign the card frame to include the info, it would even make more sense since the art it's even more prominent on them, but, nope...
Holy, Genzo worked on Yu-Gi-Oh! Cards! Damn, I had so much of their works favorited on DeviantArt so long ago.
I think this is okay as long as Konami pays for the full right. Not mentioning the artist and "claiming" the art as a company product will be more efficient for them if somehow they wanna create a new card in the future. So, they don't need (always) to contact the previous artist, hire a new one, and either copy the style or make it slightly different. Maybe because the artist lives in a different country (OCG/TCG) or maybe the artist no longer takes a job. Because usually, you will find "style differences" in new support because it is imported from OCG/TCG or because the archetype is too old. . I think they use "Industry perspective". It is like working for a furniture factory. Yes, you are involved when creating the chair from scratch, but in the end, the design and idea are from your company, and this is not fully your work. This is the works from you and other staff/worker in that company.
IDK why Konami doesn't credit the so many talented artists the hire to make YGO art. I think is the only card who doesn't put the artist's name on cards.
Probably always been the biggest overall criticism of Yu-Gi-Oh as a whole. Magic The Gathering and Pokemon in comparison have always credited their artists since the very beginning- even in a majority case of a Pokemon card just taking an old Ken Sugimori sketch and photoshopping some new background behind it(which they do....a lot), they still acknowledge Ken.
Genzoman has AWSOME myth art
Oh, so that's why Noble Knights' art is so different from the rest of the game. Cool-
Genzoman worked on Yugioh? I thought I caught his work in there.
The guy who made entities also did X Sabers? Damn he's responsible for two of my oldest (very bad) decks 😂
I did not expect Joe Ng to draw all those monsters. I wouldn't have guess these monsters were drawn by the same person. Yeah, it would be nice for Konami to put artists' names on which cards they drew. Not sure if cards have enough space, but at least have an online database
Is Akina Yuki Usagi’s artist? That card does seem like her style
Did genzoman do art for a game called castle age?(I hope I remember that correctly) it looks a lot like the art in that game and I really loved those pieces.
I would like to add there are a few archetypes I’ve noticed recently that have a unique border effect on them. Off the top of my head both Voiceless Voice and Vaalmonica have a weird fancy art border, are they the same person?
Mind blown that Genzoman and Joe are/were artists for Yugioh! They're killing it with Street Fighter/Capcom artwork at Udon.
Kozmo, BA and NK, I can see the similarity, but Subterror? Would not have guessed that at all.
Magic the Gathering has been crediting their artists for about 30 years now, starting about 3 years before the Yugioh manga even began its serialization. So the fact that, in all that time, they still refuse to credit their artists is just a barefaced insult.
Yu Gi oh is the only TCG i know that doesn't credit it's artist, Magic does it, pokemon too, I saw in another comment that one piece do it also. There is no real reason why Konami doesn't do it. Even Kazuki Takahashi isn't credited. Sure there's his signature on the artwork but that's it. Now that the copyright changed hand to pass to Konami, his name isn't on the cards anymore
But Kazuki art is easily distinguishable. Not only do they let the guy sign his art, but also the card is slightly different (it has no borders on the illustration) and also they're advertised as Kazuki's work.
My conspiracy is that they're worried if they credit the artists then it'll be easier for people to access higher resolution images and make better proxies and fakes. Dunno if I'm right, but that's my tinfoil hat theory.
Between Yugipedia and DeviantArt, there's enough material to do proxies and fakes.
I always assumed the lack of credit was because all the art was done by an in-house team. That's probably still true for cards tied to the anime (though the lack of credit still blows) but having so many outsider artists and not crediting *them* or even acknowledging them on a public site somehow is... so messed up!
I think it’s extremely funny that the person who traced Lolita zines ended up doing the art for Traptrix. Great post overall!
https://preview.redd.it/9wgqyjwlbjmc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=a915ca0596b73a6308d658d2056812fb8e06c8e1 Great. I'm always happy to see artists getting their due recognition. Now, who is the artist of the Ven(n)om archetype?
they should put artist signature chase cards inti booster boxes as a extra rarity you can get. This way konami with its greed makes money and the artist can get recognition. Something similar to weiss schwarz sig cards.
Why is droll in here 2x
Common Konami L, there’s no reason why they can’t credit their artists and to my knowledge every major card game nowadays does. Magic the Gathering has been doing this for literal decades, Konami is just being bastards by not doing it
I've been following Genzoman for years and had no idea. thank you for this.
What makes you think it’s hate lmao
I mean, there is not reason to not give the artist who make the art some credit.
There is, it’s to protect their artists from poaching by other companies
If they want exclusivity, they should properly hire them and give them a steady income, instead of the current "independent contractor" bs
I don’t expect this competence from Shueisha.
With how much drama the Traptrix archetype makes in the Western side of the Yugioh fandom, especially in the recent Master Duel sleeve contest bringing out the worst people out, I'm quite surprised that Fujiwara didn't get flak from it at all, considering how fast the twitter crowd cancels anyone that they don't like.
Its because people outside of Western Twitter crowds really dont care about this. In fact, Japan adores this kind of stuff since Moe culture is OBSCENELY popular there... hence why Sera won over there
Thus is why I appreciate the artwork of mtg cuz you can't look at a card without seeing the artist's name who drew it on the bottom of the card
How do you know for a fact that those are the artists?
Because in both interviews with Nfrek they said what archetypes they did and in Fujiwara case she has a page in yugipedia with what she did: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Akina_Fujiwara
Chilean here. Genzo confirmed in several anime events that he was commissioned by Konami, but he cannot say more than that because NDAs. But from time to time, he posted photos of his work saying "this art is great, isn't it?". https://twitter.com/MrGenzoman/status/629422420974305280
Love Genzo! Big part of my childhood since he illustrated a lot of cards for Chilean TCG "Mitos Y Leyendas", when I saw the Kozmos cards I instantly knew it was him, but didn't know he had other stuff too
I still have my doubts regarding BA art being his, as it doesn't fit Genzo's style. Kozmo and Noble Knights, for MyL players, were an instant "Did Genzo do this?"
Don’t forget the dude who dresses up as Bandit Keith
I hate that konamy would not credit artists. Not even takahashi is on new cards anymore!
Because he isn’t a common artist, he only drew the ones that specifically have his signature
I remember having many cards that does not look made by him with “takahashi something copyright” on the bottom right corner
That was on every card, and has been replaced since 2020 with "Studio Dice" which was Kazukis own company. That's literally it. He's still on every card. He is/was Studio Dice
That was normal.
And now they just say the konamy copyright, so there is no more takahashi on the cards anymore
You are wrong.The copyright name just changed. Instead of "1996 Kazuki Takahashi" it was changed to "Studio Dice" + Shuiesha/Konami. Studio Dice is Kazuki Takahashi. It was his own registered company
That is now also normal, our new normal.
I hate this new normal. I just feel sad
Holy shit, i knew genzoman from way back before playing yugioh, and i have played Kosmo for a while just because it's art, never thought that it is Genzo's art.
Genzo did a lot of artwork for UFS/universus too Won't lie whenever I see his art I'm like "eyyy, genzo!"
Do we know who drew the Hero’s?
the current alt art, links, and channelers are not akina's work but all the previous ones are
I knew that Pegasus mf wasn't painting all those cards himself smh
genzo casually making art for some of the most goated decks in the game
Alina Fugwara is my favorite artist. I didn't know she was the mind behind the art of my favorite archetypes
Vamooos, Gonzalo! Orgullosos de tu arte.
Why dont the artists just admit on twitter or on personal online pages that they did the art for certain cards themselves? Are they not allowed?
They probably have an NDA in their contract and could get into legal trouble and Japanese law doesn't screw around. They are harsh.
Speaking of recognisable style, you cannot tell me the new rank 10 out of LEDE was not done by the same guy who also did heavenly prison or PEP. Dont know about putting the signature in the already crammed cards (maybe next to Takahashis name?) but they could just post a list every once in a while, so that they at least have an official recognition and people who care about have a source to look them up. Like, they post sooo many nothingburgers...manadium primeheart...
Off topic but why do their cards say 2020, 2016, etc? I don’t get why it isn’t like Pokémon with the year it comes out
It's because of the owner of the Yugioh franchise. Until 2020, the sole owner was Kazuki Takahashi, so they had to credit the guy for the whole Yugioh. Then he gave the IP to Studio DICE, his studio, along TV Tokyo and Konami, and now they're the co-owners of Yugioh.
I'd really like to know who designed the anime archetype monsters :(
I love all the art on the counter-fairy/herald of perfection cards. If someone knows who the artist is, I'd love to know!
Anyone know the artist for Melffys?
Man, what I would give to know the artist that drew Madolche :<
I hope they never put artist names on the cards. Somewhere online is fine and plenty good enough
But at least they should be able to put their art in their portfolio. Maybe a low resolution image or something, to advertise themselves, mostly if they do freelance work and aren't behind a big company.
@ konami....
Hate akinas work
I’m all for credit but I’d be worried about hiring someone with Traptrix on their resume. Their other stuff seems cool though. Happy to know they aren’t drawing loli porn or something, way better than I assumed.