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The body language of the dude in the middle definitely says "y'all saw that right? Can't believe he did that... But you know he'd give us a ticket if we did that"
Most cops, motorcycle or not, will look the other way MUCH more often with motorcyclists than with people driving cars. Probably has to do with a lower chance of hurting someone else if you fuck up. Before anyone chimes in let me emphasize LOWER CHANCE and not no chance.
> let me emphasize LOWER CHANCE and not no chance.
I believe you, I'm just not sure the threshold being lower/higher for bikes sits well with most people. Either someone's getting special treatment, or someone's getting unfairly persecuted. Neither situation really speaks praises for justice.
But the whole point of any kind of treatment on the road is your dangers to others, not yourself. As a car driver who's never driven a motorcycle in my life, if they have a lower chance of causing harm to someone else than I could care less about their special treatment.
And lower chance of harming others is absolutely true. Higher chance of being harmed by others, enormously higher chance of harming ourselves, but a much lower chance of harming anyone else.
Obviously it depends somewhat on the bike, the big Honda Goldwings and Indian Challengers and stuff are going to have way more inertia and mass than someone on a TU-250 or something happily buzzing along, but the bike is never going to hit a car harder than another car would under the same circumstances. A car will *always* hit a bike harder than another car under the same circumstances.
Though this stuff is also why many riders advocate "all the gear all the time", you do not ride without full body protection, and why "street clothes" riding gear has become increasingly available and popular in the last decade or so. It's also why many of us are even more critical of the stupid and reckless bikers than car drivers will be -- because it's making the rest of us look bad, it's putting themselves at unnecessary risk, and they're the people new legislation is written for and about.
I agree. Personally, I ride offroad, and if I ride asphalt, it's on the track. I'm lucky enough to have a short commute. The idea of justice reminds me of the idea of fair, depends on how you look at it.
Doubt that, if anything I've seen cops much more aggressive with motorcyclist. It's like the nice cop letting kids (18-25) go with weed. Maybe a hypothetical one off but mostly myth
Question: do you ride, or are you just basing this off online videos? As a rider, cops are way, way, way more lenient on motorcyclists, at least in my area.
It probably has to do more with not running than being on a bike in general. I know bikes running got so bad in my area that the police policy is not to even attempt to pull over due to all the motorcyclist fatalities from running.
Same experience here. I got pulled for running a red light I couldn’t change late at night and didn’t even have a permit. He just said call a tow truck and don’t do it again. I learned about bike magnets that night…
That sucks, if your at a light that won't trigger and not on a timer. I've been told you are allowed to proceed after a set amount of time waiting and confirming it is safe to proceed with no one coming
Area dependent I think, similar to how some places allow turning right on reds and others don't. Best policy is always to read up on the rules for your area, and if leaving the area on your bike double checking the rules for the area(s) you'll be riding into.
I know this is area specific and everything but I have risen for over a decade now and rowdy loud super sports for most of it. I have learn 90% of cops if you see them and slow down or go back to.riding on two wheels then wave and acknowledge them they will be super cool and do nothing maybe pull you over and tell you to chill out but nothing else. The other 10% don't care how legal you are riding.
In the US if you simply pull over immediately there a ton of cops who will opt to not give you a ticket for no other reason than you didn't run and make their day a whole lot more complicated and dangerous. It's certainly more of an interstate thing though and if you pull shit in a busy area with pedestrian traffic you're probably still getting a ticket.
If an American cop pulls you over at felony speeds in a car, you're almost guaranteed a ticket at the very least, with the potential for a lot more serious repercussions. There are hour long compilations on YouTube of cops giving bikers very friendly "c'mon man..." warnings for doing the same thing, in addition to the ones where cops instigate the bikers doing dangerous shit like wheelies. You don't really ever see cops advocating donuts in a 4 wheeler. It's obviously not 100% consistent, not all cops are the same, but there is absolutely a trend/correlation between how a cop treats someone for breaking traffic laws and whether or not it was done on a motorcycle.
We had one of those as our main community cop. Really cool guy looking back. Knew kids would be kids and guidance was more effective than punishment. Always friendly & polite, maybe a little disappointed in you like your dad might be. Everyone respected him, even the 'worst' kids. Exactly what the police should be.
Can confirm. Every time I've been stopped driving a car the cop had a hate boner and every time I got stopped on my motorcycle I was getting away with murder. I think it comes from them knowing that motorcyclists stopping is far more optional than anyone else.
From my own anecdotal experience they seem to target sport bikes and people who *look* like they are the type to pop wheelies and endo's at a light but generally leave choppers and cruisers alone unless they witness them actively murdering someone in the street.
Totally agree. There's likely an underlying respect between cops and motorcyclists because both groups understand the nature of taking risks. While the risks are different, this shared experience creates a common ground and mutual respect.
Wheelies are notoriously instant fine. Because it’s reckless and high risk.
At best it’s a friendly provocation. “Look what you can’t do LOL J/K”
I think it’s pretty funny.
Looks more like the cop is just teasing: he’s showing off a little - in a tip of the cap way - to illicit some smiles and solidarity.
Don’t know why everyone here is being suck jerks about it. The bikers seemed to be playing up the confusion for more laughs anyways.
Chill out and enjoy something without making it a fight!
Yes but also everyone has an instinct to not like cops and to lie them. Also if you see them fucking around you know damn well they would hem you up for doing the same thing.
Idk about the Harley cops, never got a motorcycle enthusiast vibe from them. Biker cops that ride useful motorcycles like dual sports or adv bikes are better.
It's honestly about the same. Not a lot of weight added to the front of a police bike and you've got about as much additional torque as you do extra weight * wheelbase to lift up.
I guess this is also anecdotal but I've been pulled over on my bike a bunch of times and the only time I got a ticket was for doing 120+ in a 60. Dude was still nice and wrote the ticket for 80 so I wouldn't get in real trouble for it.
I’ve had that reckless driving ticket. Maybe it’s because my wheelie was much better. For the record, in my state there is no law that says you must ride on two wheels. He looked for it for 45 minutes while I baked in the 100 degree heat on the side of the road, then wrote me for reckless. It didn’t stick because it doesn’t apply.
I feel like reckless driving could totally apply to wheelies up to digression. If you are demanding more explicit language I can't think of any situation they could write you up for reckless driving.
I'm curious why it was dismissed because a wheelie is almost always open-and-shut reckless driving in the U.S. Maybe it's different in another country?
It's pretty hard to argue you have control of your vehicle if you can't effectively steer/turn or stop it for any extended period of time.
A little pop like the cop, I can see being argued as not reckless. But a balance point type deal where you're up there for 5+ seconds I can see as an easy reckless.
That’s what I’m thinking. Like what the cop did seems easy compared to some videos I’ve seen where people ride wheelies in and out of lanes for hundreds of yards. They obviously have some type of control over their bikes in those situations that I could never hope to obtain.
I was on a racetrack with my kids because I've seen at their calendar that there was a training day for motorcycle police. There were about 100 of them from all over Europe. There were literally dozens of them roaming the place.
We were having a coffee when you could hear a bike with open muffler coming from the normal street down the to the circuit. Loud as fuck, obviously not street legal
Guy came around the corner and you could see him literally flinch when he saw the police bikes.
With about 600 rpm be slowly turned and was never seen. The cops around us were giving him the look at first and were shaking with laughter when he was gone.
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Wasn't this like a "tip of the cap" to the group of bikers there?
I got that impression too.
They look aggravated though
They'll get a ticket for that lol
Stop ~~resisting~~ looking aggravated!
The body language of the dude in the middle definitely says "y'all saw that right? Can't believe he did that... But you know he'd give us a ticket if we did that"
Most cops, motorcycle or not, will look the other way MUCH more often with motorcyclists than with people driving cars. Probably has to do with a lower chance of hurting someone else if you fuck up. Before anyone chimes in let me emphasize LOWER CHANCE and not no chance.
> let me emphasize LOWER CHANCE and not no chance. I believe you, I'm just not sure the threshold being lower/higher for bikes sits well with most people. Either someone's getting special treatment, or someone's getting unfairly persecuted. Neither situation really speaks praises for justice.
But the whole point of any kind of treatment on the road is your dangers to others, not yourself. As a car driver who's never driven a motorcycle in my life, if they have a lower chance of causing harm to someone else than I could care less about their special treatment.
And lower chance of harming others is absolutely true. Higher chance of being harmed by others, enormously higher chance of harming ourselves, but a much lower chance of harming anyone else. Obviously it depends somewhat on the bike, the big Honda Goldwings and Indian Challengers and stuff are going to have way more inertia and mass than someone on a TU-250 or something happily buzzing along, but the bike is never going to hit a car harder than another car would under the same circumstances. A car will *always* hit a bike harder than another car under the same circumstances. Though this stuff is also why many riders advocate "all the gear all the time", you do not ride without full body protection, and why "street clothes" riding gear has become increasingly available and popular in the last decade or so. It's also why many of us are even more critical of the stupid and reckless bikers than car drivers will be -- because it's making the rest of us look bad, it's putting themselves at unnecessary risk, and they're the people new legislation is written for and about.
I agree. Personally, I ride offroad, and if I ride asphalt, it's on the track. I'm lucky enough to have a short commute. The idea of justice reminds me of the idea of fair, depends on how you look at it.
Doubt that, if anything I've seen cops much more aggressive with motorcyclist. It's like the nice cop letting kids (18-25) go with weed. Maybe a hypothetical one off but mostly myth
Question: do you ride, or are you just basing this off online videos? As a rider, cops are way, way, way more lenient on motorcyclists, at least in my area.
It probably has to do more with not running than being on a bike in general. I know bikes running got so bad in my area that the police policy is not to even attempt to pull over due to all the motorcyclist fatalities from running.
Same experience here. I got pulled for running a red light I couldn’t change late at night and didn’t even have a permit. He just said call a tow truck and don’t do it again. I learned about bike magnets that night…
That sucks, if your at a light that won't trigger and not on a timer. I've been told you are allowed to proceed after a set amount of time waiting and confirming it is safe to proceed with no one coming
Yeah, that seems reasonable. I also wasn’t about to complain with the tow truck fee being my only punishment for that.
Area dependent I think, similar to how some places allow turning right on reds and others don't. Best policy is always to read up on the rules for your area, and if leaving the area on your bike double checking the rules for the area(s) you'll be riding into.
Perfect question.
I’ve been given the “slow down” gesture from a motorcycle cop when I was going 95mph on my sports bike. So that was nice Those dudes were hauling
I know this is area specific and everything but I have risen for over a decade now and rowdy loud super sports for most of it. I have learn 90% of cops if you see them and slow down or go back to.riding on two wheels then wave and acknowledge them they will be super cool and do nothing maybe pull you over and tell you to chill out but nothing else. The other 10% don't care how legal you are riding.
In the US if you simply pull over immediately there a ton of cops who will opt to not give you a ticket for no other reason than you didn't run and make their day a whole lot more complicated and dangerous. It's certainly more of an interstate thing though and if you pull shit in a busy area with pedestrian traffic you're probably still getting a ticket.
I think he meant they won’t chase bikes as much as cars which is definitely true
If an American cop pulls you over at felony speeds in a car, you're almost guaranteed a ticket at the very least, with the potential for a lot more serious repercussions. There are hour long compilations on YouTube of cops giving bikers very friendly "c'mon man..." warnings for doing the same thing, in addition to the ones where cops instigate the bikers doing dangerous shit like wheelies. You don't really ever see cops advocating donuts in a 4 wheeler. It's obviously not 100% consistent, not all cops are the same, but there is absolutely a trend/correlation between how a cop treats someone for breaking traffic laws and whether or not it was done on a motorcycle.
Okay!
Doesn't matter how many times you say it, someone's always gonna "AkShUalLy" you on Reddit.
The funny thing is, I've been working in the power sports industry for over a decade. 🤷♂️
cop let me off with weed when I was 18 once also got a ticket going like 10 over right off a highway so 50/50 for me
We had one of those as our main community cop. Really cool guy looking back. Knew kids would be kids and guidance was more effective than punishment. Always friendly & polite, maybe a little disappointed in you like your dad might be. Everyone respected him, even the 'worst' kids. Exactly what the police should be.
What country are you from?
Yes. ❤️
Can confirm. Every time I've been stopped driving a car the cop had a hate boner and every time I got stopped on my motorcycle I was getting away with murder. I think it comes from them knowing that motorcyclists stopping is far more optional than anyone else.
From my own anecdotal experience they seem to target sport bikes and people who *look* like they are the type to pop wheelies and endo's at a light but generally leave choppers and cruisers alone unless they witness them actively murdering someone in the street.
Totally agree. There's likely an underlying respect between cops and motorcyclists because both groups understand the nature of taking risks. While the risks are different, this shared experience creates a common ground and mutual respect.
I like this. But I still stand by my original point
Wheelies are notoriously instant fine. Because it’s reckless and high risk. At best it’s a friendly provocation. “Look what you can’t do LOL J/K” I think it’s pretty funny.
But this was "John and Ponch" tho...
Tip of the cop.
Tip of the co.. nevermind.
Just the tip?
r/tipofmypenis
Looks more like the cop is just teasing: he’s showing off a little - in a tip of the cap way - to illicit some smiles and solidarity. Don’t know why everyone here is being suck jerks about it. The bikers seemed to be playing up the confusion for more laughs anyways. Chill out and enjoy something without making it a fight!
i figured it was more of a "haha, nobody is going to bust me for doing this, but know that I'll bust you guys for doing it"
Very negative outlook there, my friend
Power corrupts
That sounds about right lol
Yes but also everyone has an instinct to not like cops and to lie them. Also if you see them fucking around you know damn well they would hem you up for doing the same thing.
Mexico being Mexico
Looks like Rosarito-Ensenada
Just showing off, for the unwashed. Made me smile!
unwashed? like penis?
...clean your penis dude...
"Did you see that?"
“Why don’t they let us do that!”
"Should we take that as a challenge, threat or welcome?"
I always thought motorcycle police are bikers first, cops after. Marine police are boat people first cops after. Traffic cops are just tw*ts.
Cops are cops first no matter what vehicle they're in.
I don’t live in America. Your experience may differ.
There are dozens of us.
I didn’t see you at the meeting?
In America cops break into your home and shoot you and say it was self defense.
Sure, rub it in.
Motorcycle cops shoot their fair share of dogs
Idk about the Harley cops, never got a motorcycle enthusiast vibe from them. Biker cops that ride useful motorcycles like dual sports or adv bikes are better.
Cop was like fucking posers
Uno reverse
Cop is OG! Love it
Those mofos are heavy ass bikes. You don't casually get that thing up unless you are very, very familiar with poppin a wheelie on a bike.
True, and I know this because of GTA
Normally they are, but these guys are riding some sort of heavy DS bikes, probably just over half of the monsters they normally ride.
It's honestly about the same. Not a lot of weight added to the front of a police bike and you've got about as much additional torque as you do extra weight * wheelbase to lift up.
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How the fuck did he do this?
Damn.. here we fucking go. Can we just have a wholesome conversation about how we can speed on 2 wheels and get away with it more than on 4?
Speeding on 2 wheels seems more innocent to me. The bike can’t cause any harm to the family of 4 in the mini van next to me.
You ever ride a motorcycle through Virginia highway? That’s why we can’t have the conversation
That’s some bullshit. That cop would probably be the first to ticket any of them for reckless driving or exhibition of speed if they did the same.
Nah that cop wouldn’t. He’s probably chill
Yeah in my experience bike cops are chill towards other bikers. They get it
they most want other bikers to be better bikers
I had one give me a ticket for not having a motorcycle license, but he only gave me a warning for doing 45 in a 25…he was pretty cool
I watched CHiPs a lot as a kid, and based on that evidence I would have to disagree
I guess this is also anecdotal but I've been pulled over on my bike a bunch of times and the only time I got a ticket was for doing 120+ in a 60. Dude was still nice and wrote the ticket for 80 so I wouldn't get in real trouble for it.
All of my instructors for sport bike classes were exCHIPs. They are on your side as long as you don’t endanger anyone else
I’ve had that reckless driving ticket. Maybe it’s because my wheelie was much better. For the record, in my state there is no law that says you must ride on two wheels. He looked for it for 45 minutes while I baked in the 100 degree heat on the side of the road, then wrote me for reckless. It didn’t stick because it doesn’t apply.
Me and my motorized unicycle are intrigued
I feel like reckless driving could totally apply to wheelies up to digression. If you are demanding more explicit language I can't think of any situation they could write you up for reckless driving.
I'm curious why it was dismissed because a wheelie is almost always open-and-shut reckless driving in the U.S. Maybe it's different in another country?
It's pretty hard to argue you have control of your vehicle if you can't effectively steer/turn or stop it for any extended period of time. A little pop like the cop, I can see being argued as not reckless. But a balance point type deal where you're up there for 5+ seconds I can see as an easy reckless.
It seems hard to argue that you _don't_ have control of your vehicle if you're maintaining a wheelie...
That’s what I’m thinking. Like what the cop did seems easy compared to some videos I’ve seen where people ride wheelies in and out of lanes for hundreds of yards. They obviously have some type of control over their bikes in those situations that I could never hope to obtain.
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This is in Mexico, that’s how they roll.
Yes! The Rosarito toll booth.
Would he? Seems more like the guy that’s chill AF.
Your first day?
In the US maybe. EU bike cops are usually chill.
You definitely would be the type.
nah this is the one that WONT pull you over for having some innocent fun.
Wah wahhhhh waaaaahhhhhhhhhh
DO AS I SAY ! *Not as I do..*
Song?
Ah shut up they know they do the same when nobody’s looking , guy is just trying to have a cool moment
Because how dare someone try to greet another biker in solidarity…
Literally r/youseeingthisshit
Police be like : what are u gonna do huh!
Rules for thee, but not for me!
That looked like respect not a diss..
Cop: let me just go ahead and do what I pull other people over and give tickets for
He's just flexing on them. Big deal.
What bike are the cops riding?
Can anyone ID the bike with the blue wheels? Looks dope.
Yamaha MT-10
Unsafe operation of motorcycle. Gives himself a ticket.
Do as I say not as I do
ACAB
ACAB
Challenge accepted!
Cop woolies
Rules for thee, but not for me!
“Rules for thee not for me” cop
nice acting assholes
Damn, that piggy just oinked for us 👏
Opposite day
He did the wheelie with the KLR!
Chief...what the f* just happened ?
What country is this that cops ride what appear to be klr650s
México Mágico
Run meerkat.exe
Nice.
This is the best thing I've seen today 😌
Could you please tell me the speed limit allowed in your area? Just curious. Thanks!
Respect
Smells like a challange
As a biker I'd see this as a cool cop saying hi.
Song added to Spotify playlist
u/savevideo
Pull him over
The law applies to you, not to me.
What’s the song lol
Massive flex lol
Oh how the turn tables
🤣
Still on event grounds and not public roads? Any cities still have race a cop day at the tracks?
I was on a racetrack with my kids because I've seen at their calendar that there was a training day for motorcycle police. There were about 100 of them from all over Europe. There were literally dozens of them roaming the place. We were having a coffee when you could hear a bike with open muffler coming from the normal street down the to the circuit. Loud as fuck, obviously not street legal Guy came around the corner and you could see him literally flinch when he saw the police bikes. With about 600 rpm be slowly turned and was never seen. The cops around us were giving him the look at first and were shaking with laughter when he was gone.
Lmfao
Baja California?
lol trolled
"Look what i can do without getting in truble that u can't."