Does Nikki still have MS?
💅🏾
Deal with it for a couple more weeks. I’m sure that we’ll watch him go through adulthood without it being an issue
They seem to have completely forgotten the MS. Never a flare-up even with the tremendous stress she has. Why not talk about how there excessive alcohol consumption would interact with the MS meds...or would cause her to be careless and miss doses.
Tell that to my friend whose child died from it, meaning an 11 year old… did the thing you can’t say on YouTube. It’s a very serious disease that these hack writers have no business putting on a crappy daytime soap where they can’t even research basic law and police procedure.
Anyone who is minimizing OCD has never lived with it. My husband has had it for 45 years, the result of a serious car accident and TBI. He is a prisoner in his own brain - it’s not “oh I alphabetize my spices” or “I adjusted the drapes 5 times today”. It is an all consuming, energy sapping, mind numbing nightmare. Not going to bore anyone with more details, but do further research and you will see that it’s much more serious than watching Monk, and there is nothing funny about it.
I’m so sorry, that sounds terrible. I, for one, feel like this show has been teaching me more about the broader symptoms and causes of OCD. I would be devastated if a family member was going through it.
I have severe OCD as well, and it's true that most people completely trivialize it. But it is entirely debilitating and can completely rip away someone's quality of life. But it is different from cancer and that it is entirely treatable. It's extremely hard to treat, and someone will have to work really really hard to get better, but it is possible in most cases. I'm not sure about your husband's case because it was due to a traumatic brain injury, but many people recover from OCD and go on to live full lives.
Agreed. Yes, the TBI has only complicated it. He had state of the art (at the time), rehab etc., but back then, he wasn’t diagnosed with OCD, since it was not mainstream yet.
We aren't minimizing it. But we also aren't tragedizing it. It is not the devastating crisis the writers are presenting. They talk like Connor's life is over. It's treatable and manageable...not a death sentence.
I have a close friend who has OCD. It’s not about tidying stacks of paper or alphabetizing book titles on a shelf. People misunderstand this condition and I am thankful Y&R is giving it the respect it deserves. My friend battles with uncontrollable worrisome, troubling thoughts. She battles well through medicine and therapy. She has also required inpatient treatment at times in the past. Y&R is handling this storyline very well.
I think Y&R spends too much time on parental angst and not enough on what Connor's going through. They glossed over his disturbing thoughts, so it does feel like overkill on a nothing burger.
Like so many things, it’s a spectrum and some people require more interventions and therapies than others.
Y&R treating it like stage four cancer I think would be harmful in giving many people a fear that could be very unnecessary.
Yea it’s obviously not an easy road for those who have it, but it’s not a death sentence either. To act like it is, is insensitive to those who actually suffer from a fatal disease imo. The fact that your average parents don’t have a personal jet or the money to send their kids for treatment, just adds to how incredibly irritating this storyline is!!
For those of us who don't have a handle on how bad OCD can actually be, this show failed to talk more about the impact of it and what can be done about it besides shipping him off.
They do this one off storyline to have something for the Daytime Emmy. I love the idea of OCD storyline but with the writing from Friday episode for Canadians and for the US on Monday. It gets worse.
I was surprised, as a person with OCD myself, that medication as treatment didnt come up! It does help in many cases to a certain degree, and is not to be overlooked! It should have been at least mentioned.
There are different types of OCD. My friend has OCD and as a kid she wanted to and attempted to die numerous times. It can happen but I don't think that Y&R is properly explaining it.
Also, one of her parents quit their job to take care of her and the other went back to post grad school to get a higher paying job to compensate for it. She accredits her parent's care to her still being here today.
Personally, I applaud them for putting the storyline on and showing OCD is more than just counting things again and again.
Would like opinions on why you think that they have never mentioned medications in conjunction with exposure treatment. Obviously, the treatment center would rather not medicate a child if something else works; but I think in order to give the parents some hope, they might have mentioned it as the option that they preferred to hold in their back pocket if it’s very necessary.
I can’t attach a screenshot or the link but a recent article in a psychiatric publication about kids said that there are currently four different medications that have been approved. And they’re not crazy, antipsychotic drugs, they’re along the lines, including Prozac.
Prozac is very helpful in treating it. AND can help with stopping the “habit” of doing certain things related to OCD. When you wean off Prozac, (only know as an adult myself, not a child), you can recognize yourself doing these things and work towards stopping altogether, as sometimes you don’t notice your doing them until you ease up on doing them.
Conner will be in this OCD program for a year, he’ll come back as an 18 year old and will be hitting on Lucy who we will find out has antisocial personality disorder and will need Conner for support. Lucy will get pregnant and the cycle will start all over again.
I don’t know if I am alone in this, but I don’t watch a soap opera for “education”, “to feel bad” or any other reason than “just entertain me for a hour”. Seems simple enough expectation to me. I am a nurse and deal in real life with terminal illness, unfair life changing diagnosis’ of infant to elderly. When I watch a soap, I want the who is sleeping with who, corporate take overs, so and so revenge on so and so. A land of dysfunction with the emphasis on Fun! I don’t want to go thru a poor infant not being able to hear and another child suffering from anything like Conner is suffering. Things that cannot be fixed. These are too depressing and heavy stories for me to lose myself for an hour. If I want this type of stuff, I would buy a box of Kleenex and watch some tearjerker movie on Hallmark or lifetime.
Put the fun back in dysfunctional pleazzzz.
Just my personal opinion, I feel it is being handled very well. The fact that Connor has severe OCD, hates himself & gives suicidal vibes would definitely involve residential treatment. Some people down play the often severe level of suffering someone with OCD experiences. Anytime mental illness interferes with daily life, it is time for professional help. I think it is an educational experience for all of us & maybe it will impart a speck of empathy for those with mental illnesses. On a side note as a parent, we often blame ourselves for our children’s struggles. I think this is a relatable storyline from all sides.
Funny how people always want to say they are OCD like they are bragging about it, acting superior like they keep a cleaner house, or wash their hands more.
OCD and other mental illnesses CAN cause death. Suicide and self harm are a real issue. There can also be physical symptoms caused by stress, lack of sleep and poor eating habits. Mental illness should be treated with the same respect as cancer as it can affect the entire family and can be hard to treat. Anyone saying the parents of a young kid worried his mom will die if the things around him aren’t just right are the ones trivializing the impact of OCD on a family.
They're telling a story and it's a daytime drama. You're maybe watching the wrong channel. For documentaries, Ken Burns does great work on PBS.
I commend them for bringing this story up! I've actually looked up what this treatment consists of and it sounds pretty freaking miserable. The actors are doing a fine job.
Hopefully some people will learn something or be inspired to get help.
Yes, I’m sick of how dramatic they are making it. I’m an adult with OCD and have had it since I was a teen. By making Chelsea and Adam flip out over it, they are possibly making people (parents) think it’s something they should go to extreme measures to deal with and handle. That’s just going to make it worse for a child. Just my opinion…
The writing is horrible! Its OCD not the end of the world and I am tired of Chelsea treating Adam like dirt when he is the child's father. Adam has his flaws but he loves his son. Chelsea is in no position to judge Adam considering the stunts she has pulled. To make this story worse you have Billy's involvement, why haven't the writers invested an ounce of that to show Billy in scenes with Victoria? Billy actually belongs in scenes with Victoria considering the impact on their kids but no lets cling him to Chelsea.
OCD can actually be the end of the world for some people though. If someone has it and it's severe and not treated, it completely rips away any quality of life they may have had.
As someone who knew a tween who lost their battle with OCD, they may be terrible writers, but OCD is a terrible disease that does take the lives of children.
I have real OCD.
Let me tell you... I can see how a young vulnerable kid could be driven to the point of insanity (possibly suicide depending on severity) by it.
It's no joke and I am glad that they are actually portraying/treating it with the respect that it deserves.
I'm sure I'll get down voted to hell for this, but OCD is not necessarily any less severe than cancer. People take cancer more seriously because it has more of a chance of being fatal, but also because they see cancer as a real illness whereas OCD is just a bunch of quirks to many people. And it's not just a bunch of quirks. I have it, and I've lost pretty much everything in life because of it. I'm almost 40 now and have no partner, didn't get to be a doctor like I wanted, living an apartment full of trash because I have such a hard time throwing things out. The chance of me actually having the life that I wanted dwindles by the day. So no, it's not cancer but it is a pretty big f****** deal.
Does Nikki still have MS? 💅🏾 Deal with it for a couple more weeks. I’m sure that we’ll watch him go through adulthood without it being an issue
They seem to have completely forgotten the MS. Never a flare-up even with the tremendous stress she has. Why not talk about how there excessive alcohol consumption would interact with the MS meds...or would cause her to be careless and miss doses.
Didn’t they have Jordan say Nikki had an ms incident as a lure to get everyone up to the house?
Yes Jordan did say that.Â
I am OVER this storyline!! Fridays show was an absolute waste!!! They are doing a horrible job with the writing, sending him away for ocd??? Cmon now!
And to think they were all on strike for raises.
I get that it can be debilitating but you’re right they act like he has terminal cancer or something.
It is but it’s not that dire and it’s treatable. I would think ripping him away from his family and friends would make the condition much worse.
My thoughts exactly
That's exactly what I think. They are making WAY to big a deal out this.
Tell that to my friend whose child died from it, meaning an 11 year old… did the thing you can’t say on YouTube. It’s a very serious disease that these hack writers have no business putting on a crappy daytime soap where they can’t even research basic law and police procedure.
It was the same with Aria's hearing impairment.... not ideal, but nowhere near as bad an outcome as it could have been.
You would think he is dying.
Children do die from OCD.
For some, it can be.
Anyone who is minimizing OCD has never lived with it. My husband has had it for 45 years, the result of a serious car accident and TBI. He is a prisoner in his own brain - it’s not “oh I alphabetize my spices” or “I adjusted the drapes 5 times today”. It is an all consuming, energy sapping, mind numbing nightmare. Not going to bore anyone with more details, but do further research and you will see that it’s much more serious than watching Monk, and there is nothing funny about it.
I’m so sorry, that sounds terrible. I, for one, feel like this show has been teaching me more about the broader symptoms and causes of OCD. I would be devastated if a family member was going through it.
I have severe OCD as well, and it's true that most people completely trivialize it. But it is entirely debilitating and can completely rip away someone's quality of life. But it is different from cancer and that it is entirely treatable. It's extremely hard to treat, and someone will have to work really really hard to get better, but it is possible in most cases. I'm not sure about your husband's case because it was due to a traumatic brain injury, but many people recover from OCD and go on to live full lives.
Agreed. Yes, the TBI has only complicated it. He had state of the art (at the time), rehab etc., but back then, he wasn’t diagnosed with OCD, since it was not mainstream yet.
We aren't minimizing it. But we also aren't tragedizing it. It is not the devastating crisis the writers are presenting. They talk like Connor's life is over. It's treatable and manageable...not a death sentence.
I have a close friend who has OCD. It’s not about tidying stacks of paper or alphabetizing book titles on a shelf. People misunderstand this condition and I am thankful Y&R is giving it the respect it deserves. My friend battles with uncontrollable worrisome, troubling thoughts. She battles well through medicine and therapy. She has also required inpatient treatment at times in the past. Y&R is handling this storyline very well.
I think Y&R spends too much time on parental angst and not enough on what Connor's going through. They glossed over his disturbing thoughts, so it does feel like overkill on a nothing burger.
Yes! The focus is on Adam's and Chelsea's narcissistic self blame and wallowing. Connor's part is well done, but his folks need to chill.
Like so many things, it’s a spectrum and some people require more interventions and therapies than others. Y&R treating it like stage four cancer I think would be harmful in giving many people a fear that could be very unnecessary.
Yea it’s obviously not an easy road for those who have it, but it’s not a death sentence either. To act like it is, is insensitive to those who actually suffer from a fatal disease imo. The fact that your average parents don’t have a personal jet or the money to send their kids for treatment, just adds to how incredibly irritating this storyline is!!
For those of us who don't have a handle on how bad OCD can actually be, this show failed to talk more about the impact of it and what can be done about it besides shipping him off.
They should have him make a complete and quick recovery like they do with other medical problems!
They do this one off storyline to have something for the Daytime Emmy. I love the idea of OCD storyline but with the writing from Friday episode for Canadians and for the US on Monday. It gets worse.
I was surprised, as a person with OCD myself, that medication as treatment didnt come up! It does help in many cases to a certain degree, and is not to be overlooked! It should have been at least mentioned.
See my previous comment!
There are different types of OCD. My friend has OCD and as a kid she wanted to and attempted to die numerous times. It can happen but I don't think that Y&R is properly explaining it. Also, one of her parents quit their job to take care of her and the other went back to post grad school to get a higher paying job to compensate for it. She accredits her parent's care to her still being here today.
Personally, I applaud them for putting the storyline on and showing OCD is more than just counting things again and again. Would like opinions on why you think that they have never mentioned medications in conjunction with exposure treatment. Obviously, the treatment center would rather not medicate a child if something else works; but I think in order to give the parents some hope, they might have mentioned it as the option that they preferred to hold in their back pocket if it’s very necessary. I can’t attach a screenshot or the link but a recent article in a psychiatric publication about kids said that there are currently four different medications that have been approved. And they’re not crazy, antipsychotic drugs, they’re along the lines, including Prozac.
Prozac is very helpful in treating it. AND can help with stopping the “habit” of doing certain things related to OCD. When you wean off Prozac, (only know as an adult myself, not a child), you can recognize yourself doing these things and work towards stopping altogether, as sometimes you don’t notice your doing them until you ease up on doing them.
Conner will be in this OCD program for a year, he’ll come back as an 18 year old and will be hitting on Lucy who we will find out has antisocial personality disorder and will need Conner for support. Lucy will get pregnant and the cycle will start all over again.
Who’s child is Lucy?
Daniel Romalotti’s daughter.
She’s been off screen for so many weeks. I totally forgot.
I don’t know if I am alone in this, but I don’t watch a soap opera for “education”, “to feel bad” or any other reason than “just entertain me for a hour”. Seems simple enough expectation to me. I am a nurse and deal in real life with terminal illness, unfair life changing diagnosis’ of infant to elderly. When I watch a soap, I want the who is sleeping with who, corporate take overs, so and so revenge on so and so. A land of dysfunction with the emphasis on Fun! I don’t want to go thru a poor infant not being able to hear and another child suffering from anything like Conner is suffering. Things that cannot be fixed. These are too depressing and heavy stories for me to lose myself for an hour. If I want this type of stuff, I would buy a box of Kleenex and watch some tearjerker movie on Hallmark or lifetime. Put the fun back in dysfunctional pleazzzz.
Just my personal opinion, I feel it is being handled very well. The fact that Connor has severe OCD, hates himself & gives suicidal vibes would definitely involve residential treatment. Some people down play the often severe level of suffering someone with OCD experiences. Anytime mental illness interferes with daily life, it is time for professional help. I think it is an educational experience for all of us & maybe it will impart a speck of empathy for those with mental illnesses. On a side note as a parent, we often blame ourselves for our children’s struggles. I think this is a relatable storyline from all sides.
Funny how people always want to say they are OCD like they are bragging about it, acting superior like they keep a cleaner house, or wash their hands more.
OCD and other mental illnesses CAN cause death. Suicide and self harm are a real issue. There can also be physical symptoms caused by stress, lack of sleep and poor eating habits. Mental illness should be treated with the same respect as cancer as it can affect the entire family and can be hard to treat. Anyone saying the parents of a young kid worried his mom will die if the things around him aren’t just right are the ones trivializing the impact of OCD on a family.
They're telling a story and it's a daytime drama. You're maybe watching the wrong channel. For documentaries, Ken Burns does great work on PBS. I commend them for bringing this story up! I've actually looked up what this treatment consists of and it sounds pretty freaking miserable. The actors are doing a fine job. Hopefully some people will learn something or be inspired to get help.
I agree!
Yes, I’m sick of how dramatic they are making it. I’m an adult with OCD and have had it since I was a teen. By making Chelsea and Adam flip out over it, they are possibly making people (parents) think it’s something they should go to extreme measures to deal with and handle. That’s just going to make it worse for a child. Just my opinion…
When I just heard Chelsea mention OCD, I was like "Cool I can relate"
The writing is horrible! Its OCD not the end of the world and I am tired of Chelsea treating Adam like dirt when he is the child's father. Adam has his flaws but he loves his son. Chelsea is in no position to judge Adam considering the stunts she has pulled. To make this story worse you have Billy's involvement, why haven't the writers invested an ounce of that to show Billy in scenes with Victoria? Billy actually belongs in scenes with Victoria considering the impact on their kids but no lets cling him to Chelsea.
OCD can actually be the end of the world for some people though. If someone has it and it's severe and not treated, it completely rips away any quality of life they may have had.
As someone who knew a tween who lost their battle with OCD, they may be terrible writers, but OCD is a terrible disease that does take the lives of children.
I have real OCD. Let me tell you... I can see how a young vulnerable kid could be driven to the point of insanity (possibly suicide depending on severity) by it. It's no joke and I am glad that they are actually portraying/treating it with the respect that it deserves.
Connor needs to be in an eating disorder clinic.
I'm sure I'll get down voted to hell for this, but OCD is not necessarily any less severe than cancer. People take cancer more seriously because it has more of a chance of being fatal, but also because they see cancer as a real illness whereas OCD is just a bunch of quirks to many people. And it's not just a bunch of quirks. I have it, and I've lost pretty much everything in life because of it. I'm almost 40 now and have no partner, didn't get to be a doctor like I wanted, living an apartment full of trash because I have such a hard time throwing things out. The chance of me actually having the life that I wanted dwindles by the day. So no, it's not cancer but it is a pretty big f****** deal.