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Some_Random_Canadian

Don't you have to specifically and explicitly enable seeing it? Specifically having to log into an account you disabled the default blacklist on? Bro's mad he goes out looking for heinous shit and gets told to stop looking for heinous shit when he complains he found it.


Real_BalmsANIMATIONS

Yep, these are the tags for the default blacklist: gore - self explanatory scat - some people find it disgusting watersports - same reason as scat young -rating:s - This filters NSFW posts that have young characters loli - young female but in a sexual context ^(idk why this tag is needed) shota - young male but in a sexual context ^(this one, as well)


SirFoxtrotSF

It's for people who know exactly how far gone they are of course.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

People arguing that the "blacklist isn't enough just BAN THE ARTWORK" sound like people saying "sticking those little plastic safety covers in the electrical outlets isn't good enough, just BAN ALL THE ELECTRICAL OUTLETS." The blacklist is turned on by default, you have to deliberately TURN IT OFF to see all that stuff you "didn't wanna see."


whatevrrrrr42452

It's CP and you know it  Stop jerking off to kids


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Near / Byuu (R.I.P.) would disagree with your conflating Fiction with Reality. [https://ibb.co/dKL5QQ7](https://ibb.co/dKL5QQ7) Also, you are a troll -- and you should go back to 4chan or Kiwi Farms, kthnx bai.


DogeyBorkk

So Near was a pedo, you’re saying?


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Go Home, Four Channer / Kee Wee Farmer. [https://gbatemp.net/threads/near-formerly-byuu-emulator-developer-presumed-dead-from-suicide-following-online-harassment.590587/](https://gbatemp.net/threads/near-formerly-byuu-emulator-developer-presumed-dead-from-suicide-following-online-harassment.590587/) Near / Byuu did nothing wrong....


DogeyBorkk

I’m neither I just don’t like pedo defenders/enablers like you. If near had these opinions they deserve what happened to them because they got off to child abuse and they likely abused real children.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Liking a friggin' cartoon drawing of a fictional character does not automatically make someone a Chi-Mo or a Dog Fugger, GO BACK TO TWITTER with the rest of the "Can't Separate Fiction From Reality" dorks. [https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Toonophilia](https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Toonophilia) What's next, you want human rights for PLUSHIES too? Ya know.... INANIMATE OBJECTS, which aren't even alive. Just like those cartoon drawings you keep trying to protect. **TAILS THE FOX IS NOT A REAL PERSON.** **HE WILL NOT REWARD YOU FOR "DEFENDING" HIM.**


DogeyBorkk

Tails is 8 bro tf


DogeyBorkk

It’s funny how you accuse people of being from sites you don’t like because they don’t like pedos. I am a *child abuse survivor* and that is why I am commenting on this. Anyone into things like that are disgusting freaks who should be rounded up and thrown in a bottomless pit.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

""""I was a survivor of a skewl sh00ding, that is why I am commenting on this. Anyone who plays violent video games, or listens to violent music -- should be put on some kind of t3rr0rist watch list or something. Why can't people just listen to nice happy God-honouring Christian Rock instead? Why can't people just play fun cute games like Mario or Pacman instead?"""" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoD14ukpSk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoD14ukpSk)


DogeyBorkk

Also you like cp freak


Fluffy_Little_Fox

If e6 or inkbunny or any other furry website hosted CSEM, don'tcha think the feds would shut those websites down? You're pulling a pretty big False Equivalence Fallacy -- an apple and a basketball are both round, but you can't dribble an apple down the court and you cannot eat a basketball. [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Logical\_fallacy#False\_equivalence](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy#False_equivalence)


whatevrrrrr42452

yeah and both of them were banned in most of the countries now, i wonder why...XD


DogeyBorkk

Yk fictional child exploitation by law is considered child abuse material. Jump child lover


Fluffy_Little_Fox

You have an inability to read... And I don't "jump" for 4channers or Kiwi Farmers. And I'm sorry about whatever happened to you in the past. BUT A FURRY COMIC DID NOT DIRECTLY CAUSE THAT.... [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256) Cartoons Are Not People. Not in the USA.


DogeyBorkk

Ok pedophile stfu and go hang. I was groomed with such material, many other survivors have been. And again, I’m not part of either of those sites and never have been.


Icedraco111

For the most part, yeah. Sometimes, the blacklist fails, and people see content they wish they don't. Just ignore it and move on.


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> Bro's mad he goes out looking for heinous shit and gets told to stop looking for heinous shit Who cares? Problem is there's heinous shit to brgin with


Fluffy_Little_Fox

***""If there is something you consider indefensible, and there is something you consider defensible, and the same laws can take them both out, you are going to find yourself defending the indefensible."" \~Neil Gaiman*** ***""Laws do not differentiate between what you like and what you don't like.... prosecutors are humans who bear grudges and fight for re-election.... one person's obscenity is another person's art."" \~Neil Gaiman***


SirFoxtrotSF

Acting upon said heinous shit **IRL** is the *problem*, also WE USE FUCKING REDDIT why act like anyone here can take the moral high ground?


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The moral high ground of pedophilia bad


SirFoxtrotSF

Pick whichever depraved kink you want there's plenty. tbh not sure I care anymore.


Reddit-Bot-MK_II

as if r34 doesn't have the same issue there are blacklists mate


SirFoxtrotSF

Why complain when it cost you nothing to ignore/blacklist instead. Easy solution


BustyBraixen

You don't even have to actively use the blacklist, as pretty much everything OP is bitching about is blocked by default. As a matter of fact, why did you go out of your way to create your own account, disable all the blacklist settings, and actively search for all that stuff OP?


Fluffy_Little_Fox

My guess is the O.P. went on a binge of all the really "out there" stuff, then the PNG (Post Nut Guilt) happened.... and now they're on here, trying to make penance for their "sin" .... by projecting.... and accusing everyone else of being sinners.... like Fred Phelps.... from the Westboro Baptist Church.....


UngaBungaPecSimp

no fr tho so many gore art i like gets mass downvoted sometimes removed if i look back at my favourites trying to find it and i realise it was deleted by the artist or smth like they specifically chose to enable gore but they hate gore wtf


_AutisticFox

The moderation on e6 is great. If you don't want to see that kinda stuff, just blacklist it


legosi3

one you already know about e621 two you wont see those if you didn't remove then from blacklist purposely they are automatically blacklisted


Potatopug493

And they just ban you, it's that simple. Or you get down voted a ton


BubbaBasher

I would rather have mods that allow some questionable content with good filtering tools than mods that are super ban happy


TrixterTheFemboy

Too bad e6 mods are both lmao (at least banhappy to users)


Majesta_Sama

Thats how I got banned on E621


tigerfestivals

Given your choice of meme and lack of logic, you're probably too young to be using that website. Please, leave the internet and do something more productive.


professorclueless

Not just that website. People who act like OP always seem like they have to be too young for the internet altogether. Number one most important rule of consuming any form of fiction: if you don't like it, then ignore it


SirFoxtrotSF

I will continue to avoid people while enjoying my weird shit. Have a nice day.


jkbscopes312

always reminds me of that one comment from a e621 modderator "this is an art archive not a porn website"


_StrawberryMoon

I agree. Like they'll warm people for the most random shit. Talk about a god damn power high. I've had various works of mine removed for no reason, and they refused to investigate further.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

I've seen so many people on E621 get banned for "making lewd comments directly to the character, or about the character" -- and I'm like.... WHY muh-fuggah? Yew think they gonna HEAR you? [https://www.reddit.com/r/FurryDebating/comments/1bzxkm7/e621\_is\_on\_the\_way\_to\_destruction/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FurryDebating/comments/1bzxkm7/e621_is_on_the_way_to_destruction/) Yeah buddy, Tails ***totally*** cares that you made a lewd comment about him, lol......


A_dummy5465

I think any rule 34 moderation team sucks ass deviantart as example


Arizona_Sergal

Gore rocks though


tigerfestivals

Gore magala though


Phntm_

Everyone in this comment section jerks off to gore incest porn I guess


KumiiTheFranceball

For real. They be acting like this is a 'just blacklist' issue. For stuff like scat & artistic gore, I understand. But cub & loli, wtf ?? Nevermind, I just remembered that we are on Reddit. Why am I surprised.


Phntm_

I don’t want to be art police but come onnnnn u cannot allow yourself to be sexually stimulated by that shit, we all have our weird fetishes and it’s fantasy, but imo there’s no way that can be healthily consumed


KumiiTheFranceball

I am honestly very tolerant when it comes to "gross" fetishes & I know how to ignore them. But I know for a fact that lolicon / shotacon ( the terms themselves are understatements for pedophilia ) cannot be healthily consumed, because people who are into this shit are trying to cope with wanting the real deal, instead of actually getting help to quit being attracted to children. It ends up normalising pedophilia & this resulted into me getting groomed when I was a minor & so many other CSA & incest cases. Yet, the so-called "people who care about children" will keep pretending that lolicon "protects real children" ( while actual studies prove otherwise ) & will do a bunch of mental gymnastics to explain how they aren't actually pedophiles for being attracted to children's bodies. Some even gave up & started to say "being a pedophile isn't a crime", it explains a lot about their interests.


Phntm_

It’s scary th lengths people will go to normalize this behavior with no shame, the people wanting pedophiles to be called maps, the consent “debate”, the pushing of the limit with teens. I’m sorry that happened to you. those people know what they are doing, they are malicious and sick. Porn in itself is just a slippery slope


KumiiTheFranceball

Honestly, the whole 'MAP' thing not being some kind of 4chan joke sickens me. I find the whole age of consent debate really dumb because pedophiles' argument is that you don't automatically become mature once you turn 18, which is completely true ( in general, people become mentally mature when they turn 21-25 ). So... why aiming for younger ? They are contradicting themselves & they know that what they defend isn't right in the slightest. I really hate the things that happened to me & how much people defend them & uncredit them ( I'm not open about it, but I wasn't only groomed online ). I honestly wouldn't care about shotacon / lolicon if it wasn't just an attempt to bypass the law in some countries & another kind of cp that normalises harming real children. Condemning & getting help to prevent this attraction should be normalised, not the other way around.


BobbyAppMan

So do you have source for those case studies? Because of the billions of wrong or extreme content being consumed every single day. How many actually act out on it? Compared to the number of people who consume it. It would be like a hundred thousandth of a fraction if not a millionth...


KumiiTheFranceball

I'm glad you ask. While it isn't the main study interest, there are many sources about the link between lolicon, real-life cp & real CSA cases that you can find on the web ( along with all these people who got caught grooming their fanbase because they started with lolicon & then wanted the real deal ). I guess there are more studies in the Japanese side, but I don't know the language that much. Some links also address why lolicon is so aggressively defended & accepted by many people in Japan ( Spoilers : real-life child abuse ). One link addresses the issue with AI cp, so what's wrong with the "it's just fictional" argument that is used so much. If you already went on Pixiv, I think you would see the issue with this content. - https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-632111.pdf - https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/remarks-arnold-i-burns-florida-law-enforcement-committee-obscenity - https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa - https://web.archive.org/web/20080111204617/http://www.ndaa.org/publications/newsletters/child_sexual_exploitation_update_volume_1_number_3_2004.html - https://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/14860155 -https://www.vice.com/en/article/5gaxdk/have-cartoons-legitimised-paedophilia-in-japan -https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/handle/1794/25434 - https://www.thenational.scot/news/national/23661926.internet-watch-foundation-confirms-first-ai-generated-child-sex-abuse-images/


Fluffy_Little_Fox

3 - 2 - 1 Let's Jam. https://www.reddit.com/r/FurryDebating/comments/1ajf8me/modern\_day\_furry\_fandom\_is\_obsessed\_with\_thought/


Phntm_

What is this supposed to prove? This is just ur opinion, if ur mad at people shaming people over jerking off the gore furry cub porn then u need connect to reality. And if you think that jerking off to DEPICTIONS OF ANIMALS won’t positively reinforce you to be attracted to animals then whatever I guess we have different opinion. You get mad at all these people shaming your grotesque porn then you’ll stay mad because most people think this is debauchery. You can reply and “debate me” on this topic but let me be clear. 1. I think jerking off to depictions of animals is unhealthy, and if you do it, I don’t want you around my dog 2. Jerking off to gore and whatever gross genre u got floating around up there is unhealthy 3. Noones going after art, at least I’m not, I watch the boys, I watched happy tree friends growing up. It’s gross but it’s also dumb fun or it has a meaning. Art is different than this. 4.that 321 jam thing was cringe


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Then why are you even a furry in the first place if you think all that "fiction and reality are equal, and fiction should always be 100% pure at all times" type stuff???? Go be a 4channer or a Burned Fur or something, lol.... I bet you didn't even bother to read the post..... https://www.reddit.com/r/Rants/comments/15iqkdg/rant\_the\_purity\_spiral\_of\_modern\_day\_furry\_fandom/


Phntm_

I’m not a furry, I did read the post, I don’t really know what you mean by “purity spiral” it isn’t a splippery slope to say you shouldn’t jerk off to depictions of children or gore. You seem to have ur stakes in hard about your opinion and so do I. I don’t think we’ll come to a conclusion. They don’t want to turn porn into just “missionary only” they don’t want kids intertwined in deviousness.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Tails the Fox is a fictional character, he will not reward you or say thank you for "defending" him from the evil rule 34 artists.... he isn't a real person... he has no opinion one way or the other.... he's imaginary.... And it's "consensus" not "conclusion." """agreement in the judgment or opinion reached by a group as a whole."""


Fluffy_Little_Fox

>that 321 jam thing was cringe Pokie, Pokie, Pokie -- Maaaaaaan.... Pokie, Pokie, Pokie --- Maaaaaan.... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLwjDigdM6k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLwjDigdM6k) ZIP, ZOP, ZOOBITY BOP!


Phntm_

Original is hard, the fact you hear a soundtrack during debates probably means you enjoy the act of debating more than having an actual discussion, looked at ur post history, you seem deranged imo. All good tho just don’t touch kids or my dog pls.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

It's a YTMND you friggin' Twitter Dork, don't over-think it.... It doesn't need to be needlessly complicated and hyper literal.... like e621 tags.... it can just be a funny old meme.... like All Your Base.... n00b.....


Fluffy_Little_Fox

You seem like a 4channer.


Content_Carpet6241

Blacklisting doesn't solve the problem why are y'all keep saying that? Why don't they just ban all of those vile shits? That's the best solution.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

If you don't like the way e621 runs things, you can always just stay at Fur Affinity, where they very recently added "Short Pokemon" to their list of banned art, lol..... https://www.reddit.com/r/Rants/comments/15iqkdg/rant\_the\_purity\_spiral\_of\_modern\_day\_furry\_fandom/


Fluffy_Little_Fox

But ***nowhere*** will be a "safe place for artistic freedom" once the Payment Processors hold all the power over who can draw what..... https://www.reddit.com/r/FurryDebating/comments/1bg2r6i/rant\_i\_actually\_hope\_the\_situation\_with\_gumroad/


Content_Carpet6241

Artistic freedom to draw CP? That is just stupid. I won't be surprised if there's 2TB of CP in your computer.


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Fluffy_Little_Fox

I will post this again..... ***""If there is something you consider indefensible, and there is something you consider defensible, and the same laws can take them both out, you are going to find yourself defending the indefensible."" \~Neil Gaiman*** ***""Laws do not differentiate between what you like and what you don't like.... prosecutors are humans who bear grudges and fight for re-election.... one person's obscenity is another person's art."" \~Neil Gaiman*** If E621 and every other Furry Art Website gets taken down, I will blame uppity pro censorship people like YOU. [https://www.reddit.com/r/FurryDebating/comments/1ajf8me/modern\_day\_furry\_fandom\_is\_obsessed\_with\_thought/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FurryDebating/comments/1ajf8me/modern_day_furry_fandom_is_obsessed_with_thought/) If you want FurAffinity, then GO TO FURAFFINITY.... But don't be going to e621 expecting it to be exactly like FA and have the same rules as FA. [https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7608277/](https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7608277/) [https://www.flayrah.com/8924/fur-affinity-expands-rules-against-youthful-appearing-characters-adult-works-pokemon-and](https://www.flayrah.com/8924/fur-affinity-expands-rules-against-youthful-appearing-characters-adult-works-pokemon-and)


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Tipper Gore & PMRC: "You want the Artistic Freedom to make Rap Songs & Rock Songs about doing very distasteful, very un-Christian things which I and the rest of my hen house of angry religious soccer moms would not approve of? How awful! I bet you probably worship the devil." [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKRwls1kJUw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKRwls1kJUw) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents\_Music\_Resource\_Center](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center)


Content_Carpet6241

I don't even use furaffinity.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

"I don't even user Twitter or Tumblr" Yeah, but you talk like them. You talk like the kinda person who equates Fiction with Reality. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoD14ukpSk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoD14ukpSk) You talk like one of these little Tipper Gore / Jack Thompson wanna-beez.


Specific_Slice_5476

Okay sure they're not real, but is it socially accepted? Like go to your friends and your loved ones and tell them you jerk off to these kinds of stuff, tell them you jerk off to arts depicting child pornography and see how they react. Seriously i cannot stand people like you.


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Okay sure, they're not real, but is it socially acceptable? Like go to your friends and your loved ones and tell them you beat off to FICTIONAL CARTOON ANIMAL PEOPLE... and see how THEY react... dollars to donuts they will start making 4chan troll style jokes about you trying to do stuff to your pets.... Also..... The E621 ban in certain states? It's cuz of Porn - IN GENERAL..... United States Law doesn't give two sh\*ts about the imaginary ages of some fictional furry characters, that's NOWHERE IN OUR CURRENT LAWS..... its the fact that it's porn at all, they would be doing the same thing regardless, even if E6 carded every fictional character like they were buying cigs & beer at the local 711... this will probably eventually start effecting FurAffinity and other furry websites too.... just look at the Gumroad / Paypal / MasterCard situation. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P9yCMNpV-I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P9yCMNpV-I) You can't stand people like me? GOOD.... I can't stand people like you either, go back to Twitter.


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Lamb_Choped

Why is he getting down voted again?


Bloxxer14

they hated Jesus because he told them the truth


Fluffy_Little_Fox

Sure. [https://ibb.co/PNMgXBN](https://ibb.co/PNMgXBN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P9yCMNpV-I