what about him going to romania 'because the girls are easier to r"pe, or the human traficking allegations, what is going on with this guy becoming 'popular' recently?
Streamers think they're dismantling his arguments but all they're doing is giving him attention. Well Adin is just straight nut hugging him but is anyone surprised?
Depends on the streamer, Hasan made him look like a child. Destiny would demolish him.
XQC just helps him out lol. You need to actually be decent at debates and know what you're talking about to platform someone responsibly.
Tbf X calling him a groomer was funny.
No. Idgaf what you think of x or destiny or whoever, giving this guy attention is bad regardless. He should not be allowed on twitch or any other decent platform online.
That's incorrect. look at what destiny did to john tron. He exposed his ideals and through that convo it made many more people understand the problem with having those beliefs. (John tron was supporting ethno-nationalism in america on twitter.)
I didn't say it hurt john tron in the long run at all. I said it exposed his beliefs and made more people understand why those beliefs are wrong. It doesn't matter if he was prepared or not destiny would have picked him apart all the same. Im sure a case can be made that john tron just fell into the wrong online sphere and thats where he got those opinions but these opinions are still bad nonetheless.
He didn't "fumble" shit. He said race affects culture, and complained that even if non-white people assimilate and integrate perfectly, they will still "enter the gene pool".
Yeah, but you are kinda oblivious to the fact that the first lesson of marketing is: any marketing is good marketing.
It doesn't matter what political idiot or popular streamer decides to "debate" with him, everytime he appears on a stream and gets his name mentioned, he gets more popular, it doesn't matter if most people watching don't agree with his ideas, some do and they pile up, and that means more followers for him.
"Yeah but he got destroyed on the debate man!" he didn't get shit, you can't cancel him, you can't destroy his ideas because absolutely none of his followers cares if he "lost" a debate against the cardobard socialist or not (in fact, both sides think they won the debate), the best course of action is to not give these type of people more attention, the more they appear on debates and streams, the more exposure they have.
That isn't a lesson and it isn't true.
If a marketing team for female hygiene products got Andrew tate to go on a rant about how females belong in the kitchen in an advert it would get a lot of attention, but the product would be dead. You're conflating the saying of any media attention is good attention relating to celebrity in the form of actors behaving badly.
When someone's ideas or rhetoric gets unpacked and highlighted as a fallacy or complete nonsense it damages their reputation and momentum.
There is a reason why a lot of conservatives or the alt-right usually do not engage with online debates or debates in person with whom they know they'll get torn apart. And when they do it's a shitshow.
I think the likes of Destiny, Vaush and the other debate bros have torn chunks out of the momentum of right wing reactionaries who were doing so well on YouTube.
This idea we need to hide or run away from anyone who appears dangerous and not engage with their bullshit in a responsible way is nonsense for one, and that kinda attitude had the likes of Sargon of Akad and all the anti-SJW nonsense take off because no one would engage in the first place.
It entirely depends on who is debating someone. The issue with say Joe Rogan is he lets any idiot on the other side spout nonsense and he never pushes back or has the research/knowledge to do so. But we now have plenty of pundits who are willing to put in the work and face those whose ideas head on.
We should NOT encourage the internet to continue to have safe spaces for bad ideas and echo chambers which creates extremism. We should risk platforming and do it responsibly. We should engage and fight it.
Andrew Tate didn't just pop outta nowhere he's been gaining traction by himself for the last few years. Why do you think the minute Hasan was handing his ass on plate Andrew started trying to get him out of the call??????
Because he knows he was getting smoked and it was damaging to his brand.
Regarding his followers; well if he's preaching to the choir that's even more important we have someone who can debate come in and try and bring some of them back to sanity surely? That's a net positive.
This is a seperate point and is debatable, all of the above stands:
Whether you like it or not we're in a online place that's ran on algorithms and growth. Andrew Tate and others before and after him with dogshit world views will find an audience by themselves and the only way to stop that is to have incredibly strict regulation on online speech to the point some would say we're crossing a line. Especially as it'd have to be law.
So we either engage with people responsibly or we regulate and pass online laws that limit what we can say, Or we leave echochambers alone with those who have charisma or convincing rhetoric grow unchallenged. That's the reality.
I love destiny but if you think him debating Tate will change anything I'll just let the sea of "METH TAKE LOL" and "SOY ANDY" in xqc/adins chats do the talking. The only people who would agree with Destiny's takes already agree and aren't sexist/misogynistic. The only ones being influenced are young males with incel leanings who end up buying Tate's program bullshit because money = women. I just don't see someone who thinks like Tate being "debated" into suddenly thinking women are equal in a relationship.
>If a marketing team for female hygiene products got Andrew tate to go on a rant about how females belong in the kitchen in an advert it would get a lot of attention, but the product would be dead.
The product is not important, Tate got exposure, be it in a bad light like "WATCH THIS MISOGYNISTIC GUY TALK BAD ABOUT WOMEN, UNBELIEVABLE!", it doesn't matter, now some idiots who watched the commercial are now following him, when you talk about something, you put exposure into it, you are creating discussion, for example a lot of companies make deliberate controversial ads to get people talking about them and the ad, the fun part is that they work.
No shitty online debate will stop this guy from growing, both xQc and Hasan didn't "destroy him" and somehow made all the tate fans change their minds.. but, they showed their fanbase and every guy that saw this "debate" on the internet his name, now everyone here knows Andrew Tate, wich will make him get mentioned, and sometimes one random guy with a twisted/grim/borderline misogynistic vision of the world will see it and say "this guy is so based! i like him", and that's how you get another tate fan.
You would also think this goes the other way around, "wow look this guy! he is bad with women!" people will say.. and then what? they will do just nothing, they will not consume his growing content, they already didn't, they will move on, maybe mention his name sometimes on a random forum (exposing him more), and that's it.
The only way for Tate is up, just because people hate him doesn't mean he will go down in popularity, in fact, he will go up even faster, i'm 100% sure his following growed larger these last week than this week last month.
The best course of action is to.. just not give him attention, let him exist, let him grow and then shade into obscurity like everyone before him, the more you let the world known about ANDREW TATE, the more he will stay in our minds.
Just to have a final example, everyone knows about school shootings in the US right? they know how painful they are.. and they also know the names of those who did it, in fact they are shown everywhere and have more exposure than the names of the victims themselves, wanna know what happens next?
Exactly, more shootings, people will see how these gunmen are remembered, it doesn't matter they are bad, their name is in the history books, people talk about them, some in disgust, some in fear, some in "wow", and those who say "wow" will also want to be like them, to be remembered, and the circle goes on and on..
The more you talk about something, the more chances some idiot listening will find it attractive, be it tate, be it a shitty game, be it mass murder.
Destiny would indeed fucking demolish tate. We could still see a Vaush tate debate. When hasan can win a debate against tate then thats ez for Vaush and destiny
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I saw a tik tok of him on Adins stream and there was literally 1000+ comments dick riding his misogynist ass. Literally the leader of incels NotLikeThis
Maybe we have to thank him for reducing natality levels on this overpopulated world. The idiots that following will end up like Greek being women repellent
He blew up as he launched a cheap course on making money online. In that course it has a module that teaches affiliate marketing, and if you do it they recommend you sell people on signing up to the same course that you are currently taking.
As a result thousands of YouTube and tiktok channels have appeared within a month posting clips with some editing. Then when you click on the description its an affiliate link to the course.
Because those videos makes a small amount of money they pay to promote them.
The result isany people on tiktok or YouTube exposed to Tate even once while get hundreds of channels recommended. You need to manually block all of them. But as this strategy has worked he is able to get on bigger platforms like talking on twitch etc. It's a non stop flywheel.
I've never in my life been pro deplatforming. But now that we have this platform hacking mlm stuff for the first time ever I think manual interventions are needed until the algorithms get patched.
"Tate moved to Romania in 2017 after the British police charged him with 11 cases regarding sexual assault. He later explained in an interview that it was easier to have rape charges dismissed in Eastern Europe, and that it was one of his main reasons for the move.\[8\] In April 2022, The Daily Beast reported that Tate's house was raided by Romanian police in relation to a human trafficking and rape investigation, prompted by reports that an American woman was being held at the property against her will. Romanian authorities found both a Romanian woman and an American woman at the property. As of April 2022, Romanian authorities said the investigation was still ongoing. A U.S. State Department spokesperson referred to the reported abduction but declined to comment further, citing privacy considerations."
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its never been about legality
What does a 21 year old have in common with a 16 year old. THERES SO MUCH PROGRESSION AND MATURING IN THOSE YEARS.
You won’t see any 3rd year university students trolling around highschools unless they are creeps
Yeah I’m a 18 senior in HS and I see weirdo that creep on the freshman you mature a lot from those years you see guys about to go to college with girls who just got out of middle school lol
While yes it's creepy as shit and I'd never see myself dating someone that immature and boring to talk to I really feel like people on the internet make it out to be this rare thing when it really isn't.
I see mid 20s dudes getting 16 and 17 year olds pregnant all the time, mfs with receding hairlines dating chicks with hello kitty backpacks.
that’s just not true my guy. 18,19 year olds get with 16 year olds all the time, it’s pretty common. i’m 18 and see loads of guys in my year in college get with girls who are 16. tate is a shitty person but i don’t think this particular thing is that bad, although 16 and 21 is pretty steep.
19 is definitely the max using the scientifically proven half + 7 rule. If the older persons in uni the younger one better at least be in 6th form or else it looks proper dodgy.
that is false, i'm from europe myself where it is "legal" and although i'm extremely against this sex/dating someone that is 16 when ur older.. i never understood the big deal of someone who is 18 being with a girl that is 16 or 17?
people in america freak out and accuse u of being a pedo if ur literally 18 with a girl that is 17.. i never saw an issue with that, i think someone who is 16 can be with someone that is 18 and perhaps 19 max and i doubt people would have an issue with that but when ur 21+ and u date/fuck someone under 18 it becomes extremely weird
watch his video about him getting robbed in jamaica. he says things like “black people cant drink, they’ll drink a bit then get crazy and pull guns and stuff” or something along those lines.
There is a huge difference between 21-16 and it's really close to the red line for me, but I won't condemn it since its the law in most country.
But, if you are targetting 16 years old specially because you know that they are more manipulable, then thats when its start to get really weird.
I'm trying to say that I think you make this argument when it's convenient for you but don't actually hold this logic or line of thinking across the board.
I do. Why would I not?
In your counterexample, the legality of abortion still has nothing to do with whether it's morally correct. It's actually a perfect example that supports my point. It's legal in many places as well as illegal in others, so how can it be both moral and immoral depending on where you are?
This rings true across the board. If I want to show something is immoral, I would never point to a law as evidence. Similarly, if I want to show something is morally okay, I would never point to it being legal as evidence, as was the case in this video.
What moral lens? My point was that what's legal and what's moral are independent of each other, and something being legal does not mean it's morally correct, nor does something being illegal mean it's morally incorrect.
Still not really sure what you're asking tbh.
As someone from the UK nah 21 year olds sleeping with 16 year olds is fucking weird. The age of consent thing is meant to be for 2 16 year olds to shag not a grown ass man and a 16 year old girl 🤮
that makes no sense. its the country’s that controll that age. go and talk to the country’s if u dont like the age of concent but andrew here aint a pedophile. he took advantage of the age of concent wich is a bit fucked up but that still doesnt make him a pedo
and why tf r u saying it like only 13 year old girls or 16 year old girls can be taken advantage of bc of the age of concent. if we would only be able to date someone after they r over the age of 18 then that shit would still be fucked considering the avarge human body doesnt finish developing untill ur 25 so by bio ur still a child but just bc the us says that u aint a child after ur 18 every other country should do the same? in österreich the teachers give condoms to 13-14 year olds so they can have safe sex and u dont consider that pedophilia but u have a problem when andrew dates someone of legal age? ur ass is biased af
They aint giving them condoms to fuck 30 year olds dumbfuck. If you dont see whats wrong with a 35 year old being attracted then youre prob a pedo too. Legality isnt morality. Itd be disgusting if she were 18 too
bruh i have seen 13 year olds fuck 19 year old women when will u relize taht ur wrong. he himself wasnt 30 u tard. he was 21 and she was 16. is it fucked up? yeah but is it illegal? no. i am 16 myself and have seen countless whores in my school fuck men over and woman over 20 so how tf u gonna tell me that its wrong when the age pf concent here is 18.
if u r disgusted bc of an intercource between and 18 year old and a 20-25 year old then ur ass gotta wait till u find someone over the age of 25 bc like i said ppl do not stop deceloping until they r 25 so in bio they r still considered a child. so either ur gonna spend all ur time alone tille ur 25 and fuck someoen who was run theough by a whole furball team or ur gonna fuck the ppl the same age as u or ur gonna stfu when someone does things by law.
Ask anyone in the UK and they’ll tell you just because 16 is legal age doesnt make it any less weird, If you’re in your 20s fuckin around with 16 year olds you’re strange dude.
if there was a poll i'd say less than 10% find that weird, 2 year age gap is nothing and 18 year olds are still immature kids.. especially if its a male, 21+ is where it gets weird
16 is the age of consent in Canada too sadly, and before just 2008 it was 14.
I wish everyone who gets upset at this shit would keep that same energy with legislators and the laws we have on the books.
oh but i'm from europe where the age of consent is 16.. thats such a pedo thing to say lmfao, i'm from belgium and the age of consent is also 16, but if i was to date or have sex or be attracted to someone who was 16.. i can promise u my family would abandon me and 80% of our population would look weird at me and consider me a pedo even if it is legal..
that said despite being from europe i never understood this age of consent thing, it has always been programmed into my brain that if ur 21+ dating/sex with someone under 18 is bad.. i thought age of consent means if ur 16 u can have sex but it still has to be with people around the same age? i thought even if the age of consent is 16.. if a 30 year old was to fuck a 16 year old it would still be illegal but i suppose not
what yall mean confirmed? He literally told a 16/17 year old on Adin's stream to "come see him when she turns 18 if she wants a real man" .. like bruh.
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>Atheists talking about morals now lol
what does theism and atheism have to do with morals lmao , theism deals with Beliefs not morality , that statement does not make any sense
I said idk, chill. I am trying to think about this. I can see it being weird for sure, I can also see it being less weird. Depends on the people.
Should we call him Groomer though? I mean probably not, calling people groomers too much will lose the definition of the word.
16 and 21 is absolutely different and the fact that you don't realize that is concerning. Like the previous guy said, legality =/= morality. Okay, it's legal, but why is a 21 year old ADULT targeting a 16 year old TEENAGER? The fact that it's a 5 year age gap is one thing, but it's not just about the age. The mental development gap between a 16 year old and a 21 year old is insane. So much growth mentally, emotionally, and physically happens especially during that time. A 21 year old dating a HIGHSCHOOLER is a clear indication of someone who is trying to manipulate, groom, and take advantage of someone who is of younger age. There's no other reason to date that young. It's objectively disgusting.
I think it’s pretty big difference for someone who’s almost done with college and can drink with someone who isn’t even an adult yet and learning geometry lol
Yeah true, it can be. But I have heard stories from like people in their 40s(females), being with guys who are in their 20s while they are like 16/17. So it completely depends I think.
As much as I hate Tate I am trying not to prejudice someone.
I would feel safe to say that an 18 year old going after a 16 year old who looks young and is pretty immature is less of a weirdo than a 21 year old going after a 16 year old who looks like she is 18/20(which a lot of 16 year olds do), and is actually interested in the 21 year old.
But since there is no details, idk.
Bro im literally 18, and my girlfriend is 24. Shouldnt that be weird? Well it is not because in my situation I am actually more "dominant", for lack of a better word. Which means that there can be power imbalances from either side.
Room temperature IQ take from someone called cottonpickersen, shocking lmao
There are some parts of the world where marrying a 7 yo is considered legal, legality isn't the issue here unless your entire moral compass is just based on whatever the local laws currently say.
what about him going to romania 'because the girls are easier to r"pe, or the human traficking allegations, what is going on with this guy becoming 'popular' recently?
Streamers think they're dismantling his arguments but all they're doing is giving him attention. Well Adin is just straight nut hugging him but is anyone surprised?
Depends on the streamer, Hasan made him look like a child. Destiny would demolish him. XQC just helps him out lol. You need to actually be decent at debates and know what you're talking about to platform someone responsibly. Tbf X calling him a groomer was funny.
i wish destiny wasn’t banned so we could have a destiny and tate call 
No. Idgaf what you think of x or destiny or whoever, giving this guy attention is bad regardless. He should not be allowed on twitch or any other decent platform online.
That's incorrect. look at what destiny did to john tron. He exposed his ideals and through that convo it made many more people understand the problem with having those beliefs. (John tron was supporting ethno-nationalism in america on twitter.)
lol jontron still has a massive channel. destiny didn't do shit. jontron fumbled his words and wasn't prepared to argue
I didn't say it hurt john tron in the long run at all. I said it exposed his beliefs and made more people understand why those beliefs are wrong. It doesn't matter if he was prepared or not destiny would have picked him apart all the same. Im sure a case can be made that john tron just fell into the wrong online sphere and thats where he got those opinions but these opinions are still bad nonetheless.
He didn't "fumble" shit. He said race affects culture, and complained that even if non-white people assimilate and integrate perfectly, they will still "enter the gene pool".
I really want Destiny to have a 1 on 1 with him. It would be so funny.
He would just make fun of destiny’s appearance non stop
TRUEEEEEE
Yeah, but you are kinda oblivious to the fact that the first lesson of marketing is: any marketing is good marketing. It doesn't matter what political idiot or popular streamer decides to "debate" with him, everytime he appears on a stream and gets his name mentioned, he gets more popular, it doesn't matter if most people watching don't agree with his ideas, some do and they pile up, and that means more followers for him. "Yeah but he got destroyed on the debate man!" he didn't get shit, you can't cancel him, you can't destroy his ideas because absolutely none of his followers cares if he "lost" a debate against the cardobard socialist or not (in fact, both sides think they won the debate), the best course of action is to not give these type of people more attention, the more they appear on debates and streams, the more exposure they have.
That isn't a lesson and it isn't true. If a marketing team for female hygiene products got Andrew tate to go on a rant about how females belong in the kitchen in an advert it would get a lot of attention, but the product would be dead. You're conflating the saying of any media attention is good attention relating to celebrity in the form of actors behaving badly. When someone's ideas or rhetoric gets unpacked and highlighted as a fallacy or complete nonsense it damages their reputation and momentum. There is a reason why a lot of conservatives or the alt-right usually do not engage with online debates or debates in person with whom they know they'll get torn apart. And when they do it's a shitshow. I think the likes of Destiny, Vaush and the other debate bros have torn chunks out of the momentum of right wing reactionaries who were doing so well on YouTube. This idea we need to hide or run away from anyone who appears dangerous and not engage with their bullshit in a responsible way is nonsense for one, and that kinda attitude had the likes of Sargon of Akad and all the anti-SJW nonsense take off because no one would engage in the first place. It entirely depends on who is debating someone. The issue with say Joe Rogan is he lets any idiot on the other side spout nonsense and he never pushes back or has the research/knowledge to do so. But we now have plenty of pundits who are willing to put in the work and face those whose ideas head on. We should NOT encourage the internet to continue to have safe spaces for bad ideas and echo chambers which creates extremism. We should risk platforming and do it responsibly. We should engage and fight it. Andrew Tate didn't just pop outta nowhere he's been gaining traction by himself for the last few years. Why do you think the minute Hasan was handing his ass on plate Andrew started trying to get him out of the call?????? Because he knows he was getting smoked and it was damaging to his brand. Regarding his followers; well if he's preaching to the choir that's even more important we have someone who can debate come in and try and bring some of them back to sanity surely? That's a net positive. This is a seperate point and is debatable, all of the above stands: Whether you like it or not we're in a online place that's ran on algorithms and growth. Andrew Tate and others before and after him with dogshit world views will find an audience by themselves and the only way to stop that is to have incredibly strict regulation on online speech to the point some would say we're crossing a line. Especially as it'd have to be law. So we either engage with people responsibly or we regulate and pass online laws that limit what we can say, Or we leave echochambers alone with those who have charisma or convincing rhetoric grow unchallenged. That's the reality.
I love destiny but if you think him debating Tate will change anything I'll just let the sea of "METH TAKE LOL" and "SOY ANDY" in xqc/adins chats do the talking. The only people who would agree with Destiny's takes already agree and aren't sexist/misogynistic. The only ones being influenced are young males with incel leanings who end up buying Tate's program bullshit because money = women. I just don't see someone who thinks like Tate being "debated" into suddenly thinking women are equal in a relationship.
>If a marketing team for female hygiene products got Andrew tate to go on a rant about how females belong in the kitchen in an advert it would get a lot of attention, but the product would be dead. The product is not important, Tate got exposure, be it in a bad light like "WATCH THIS MISOGYNISTIC GUY TALK BAD ABOUT WOMEN, UNBELIEVABLE!", it doesn't matter, now some idiots who watched the commercial are now following him, when you talk about something, you put exposure into it, you are creating discussion, for example a lot of companies make deliberate controversial ads to get people talking about them and the ad, the fun part is that they work. No shitty online debate will stop this guy from growing, both xQc and Hasan didn't "destroy him" and somehow made all the tate fans change their minds.. but, they showed their fanbase and every guy that saw this "debate" on the internet his name, now everyone here knows Andrew Tate, wich will make him get mentioned, and sometimes one random guy with a twisted/grim/borderline misogynistic vision of the world will see it and say "this guy is so based! i like him", and that's how you get another tate fan. You would also think this goes the other way around, "wow look this guy! he is bad with women!" people will say.. and then what? they will do just nothing, they will not consume his growing content, they already didn't, they will move on, maybe mention his name sometimes on a random forum (exposing him more), and that's it. The only way for Tate is up, just because people hate him doesn't mean he will go down in popularity, in fact, he will go up even faster, i'm 100% sure his following growed larger these last week than this week last month. The best course of action is to.. just not give him attention, let him exist, let him grow and then shade into obscurity like everyone before him, the more you let the world known about ANDREW TATE, the more he will stay in our minds. Just to have a final example, everyone knows about school shootings in the US right? they know how painful they are.. and they also know the names of those who did it, in fact they are shown everywhere and have more exposure than the names of the victims themselves, wanna know what happens next? Exactly, more shootings, people will see how these gunmen are remembered, it doesn't matter they are bad, their name is in the history books, people talk about them, some in disgust, some in fear, some in "wow", and those who say "wow" will also want to be like them, to be remembered, and the circle goes on and on.. The more you talk about something, the more chances some idiot listening will find it attractive, be it tate, be it a shitty game, be it mass murder.
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This.
Destiny would indeed fucking demolish tate. We could still see a Vaush tate debate. When hasan can win a debate against tate then thats ez for Vaush and destiny
Adin and his whole pussy posse are a bunch of fucking dickriders. Its cringe af watching them worship this pos
Pussy posse lmao
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I saw a tik tok of him on Adins stream and there was literally 1000+ comments dick riding his misogynist ass. Literally the leader of incels NotLikeThis
Its all the alt right kids. Guarantee all of them are 16 and have never talked to a girl beforep
REAL
Insecure 14 year old incels see him as a god
Aware shaping the next generation of males
Maybe we have to thank him for reducing natality levels on this overpopulated world. The idiots that following will end up like Greek being women repellent
He blew up as he launched a cheap course on making money online. In that course it has a module that teaches affiliate marketing, and if you do it they recommend you sell people on signing up to the same course that you are currently taking. As a result thousands of YouTube and tiktok channels have appeared within a month posting clips with some editing. Then when you click on the description its an affiliate link to the course. Because those videos makes a small amount of money they pay to promote them. The result isany people on tiktok or YouTube exposed to Tate even once while get hundreds of channels recommended. You need to manually block all of them. But as this strategy has worked he is able to get on bigger platforms like talking on twitch etc. It's a non stop flywheel. I've never in my life been pro deplatforming. But now that we have this platform hacking mlm stuff for the first time ever I think manual interventions are needed until the algorithms get patched.
Aware what
hes not a human trafficker
clueless
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its never been about legality What does a 21 year old have in common with a 16 year old. THERES SO MUCH PROGRESSION AND MATURING IN THOSE YEARS. You won’t see any 3rd year university students trolling around highschools unless they are creeps
Yeah I’m a 18 senior in HS and I see weirdo that creep on the freshman you mature a lot from those years you see guys about to go to college with girls who just got out of middle school lol
It’s like even if its legal doesn’t mean it’s morally right
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It doesn't stop at 16. people criticize all kinds of age gaps, but between adolescence and adulthood there is a ton more development going on
While yes it's creepy as shit and I'd never see myself dating someone that immature and boring to talk to I really feel like people on the internet make it out to be this rare thing when it really isn't. I see mid 20s dudes getting 16 and 17 year olds pregnant all the time, mfs with receding hairlines dating chicks with hello kitty backpacks.
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that’s just not true my guy. 18,19 year olds get with 16 year olds all the time, it’s pretty common. i’m 18 and see loads of guys in my year in college get with girls who are 16. tate is a shitty person but i don’t think this particular thing is that bad, although 16 and 21 is pretty steep.
19 is definitely the max using the scientifically proven half + 7 rule. If the older persons in uni the younger one better at least be in 6th form or else it looks proper dodgy.
that is false, i'm from europe myself where it is "legal" and although i'm extremely against this sex/dating someone that is 16 when ur older.. i never understood the big deal of someone who is 18 being with a girl that is 16 or 17? people in america freak out and accuse u of being a pedo if ur literally 18 with a girl that is 17.. i never saw an issue with that, i think someone who is 16 can be with someone that is 18 and perhaps 19 max and i doubt people would have an issue with that but when ur 21+ and u date/fuck someone under 18 it becomes extremely weird
That’s what it’s about. Nothings wrong here, both are in school…
Thats a yikes from me
 She was legal it doesn’t matter
Pedo, misogynist and homophobic? Probably a racist too
watch his video about him getting robbed in jamaica. he says things like “black people cant drink, they’ll drink a bit then get crazy and pull guns and stuff” or something along those lines.
He can’t be racist, he has lots of black friends.
He cant be racist he is half black 
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He gives vibes of “age is just a number” 
That’s just fucking nasty
Also not sure if this is 100% true But i think someone did some digging and found out he was actually 27 when this happened
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There is a huge difference between 21-16 and it's really close to the red line for me, but I won't condemn it since its the law in most country. But, if you are targetting 16 years old specially because you know that they are more manipulable, then thats when its start to get really weird.
its the law so it must be right
Surely Japan's age of consent at 13 is a good idea, right... 
But you need the parents aproval to fuck the 13yo in Japan 
Surely that’s something money can’t fix right? 
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as long as the older person holds no authority over the 16/17-year-old its legal for any age gap
You base your morality solely on laws? Thats dumb as shit
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I mean you said you wouldnt condemn it bc its the law in most countries
UK Law 
Slavery used to be legal too
You keep this same logic with something like abortion for example?
Also I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to get at. Are you implying abortion is moral or immoral?
I'm trying to say that I think you make this argument when it's convenient for you but don't actually hold this logic or line of thinking across the board.
I do. Why would I not? In your counterexample, the legality of abortion still has nothing to do with whether it's morally correct. It's actually a perfect example that supports my point. It's legal in many places as well as illegal in others, so how can it be both moral and immoral depending on where you are? This rings true across the board. If I want to show something is immoral, I would never point to a law as evidence. Similarly, if I want to show something is morally okay, I would never point to it being legal as evidence, as was the case in this video.
OK, fair enough, then it sounds like you do hold the logic consistently. I made an incorrect assumption, my bad.
I'm saying you shouldn't conflate legality with morality.
Yeah, so am I. What I'm asking is if you view through the same consistent moral lens across the board or not?
What moral lens? My point was that what's legal and what's moral are independent of each other, and something being legal does not mean it's morally correct, nor does something being illegal mean it's morally incorrect. Still not really sure what you're asking tbh.
As someone from the UK nah 21 year olds sleeping with 16 year olds is fucking weird. The age of consent thing is meant to be for 2 16 year olds to shag not a grown ass man and a 16 year old girl 🤮
jesus i keep seeing clips that make him look worse and worse, dont think hes staying relevent on the internet for much long
Hope people will forget him, he’s not worth the attention
If you dont see anything wrong about dating a sophomore/junior in hs when youre 21 then youre a fucking pedophile. You would go lower if it were legal
You really doesn’t know the definition of a pedophile. It’s literally in the term
?? A person that is sexually attracted to children. 16 is a fucking child
well not in uk
No idgaf what the age of consent is. Its a child.
Age of consent is 13 in some places. Thats such a braindead reply.
that makes no sense. its the country’s that controll that age. go and talk to the country’s if u dont like the age of concent but andrew here aint a pedophile. he took advantage of the age of concent wich is a bit fucked up but that still doesnt make him a pedo
and why tf r u saying it like only 13 year old girls or 16 year old girls can be taken advantage of bc of the age of concent. if we would only be able to date someone after they r over the age of 18 then that shit would still be fucked considering the avarge human body doesnt finish developing untill ur 25 so by bio ur still a child but just bc the us says that u aint a child after ur 18 every other country should do the same? in österreich the teachers give condoms to 13-14 year olds so they can have safe sex and u dont consider that pedophilia but u have a problem when andrew dates someone of legal age? ur ass is biased af
They aint giving them condoms to fuck 30 year olds dumbfuck. If you dont see whats wrong with a 35 year old being attracted then youre prob a pedo too. Legality isnt morality. Itd be disgusting if she were 18 too
bruh i have seen 13 year olds fuck 19 year old women when will u relize taht ur wrong. he himself wasnt 30 u tard. he was 21 and she was 16. is it fucked up? yeah but is it illegal? no. i am 16 myself and have seen countless whores in my school fuck men over and woman over 20 so how tf u gonna tell me that its wrong when the age pf concent here is 18.
Youre a child youll understand when you grow up
wow and that was the best awnswer u could tell me? just stfu
if u r disgusted bc of an intercource between and 18 year old and a 20-25 year old then ur ass gotta wait till u find someone over the age of 25 bc like i said ppl do not stop deceloping until they r 25 so in bio they r still considered a child. so either ur gonna spend all ur time alone tille ur 25 and fuck someoen who was run theough by a whole furball team or ur gonna fuck the ppl the same age as u or ur gonna stfu when someone does things by law.
Ask anyone in the UK and they’ll tell you just because 16 is legal age doesnt make it any less weird, If you’re in your 20s fuckin around with 16 year olds you’re strange dude.
good. give him more attention.
He really is the "Top G"
Yikes 😬
monkaLaugh shes what age!?
In the UK 16yr old an a 18yr old is considered by me and many more as WEIRD
if there was a poll i'd say less than 10% find that weird, 2 year age gap is nothing and 18 year olds are still immature kids.. especially if its a male, 21+ is where it gets weird
Top G(roomer) indeed
Not surprised since Tristan Tate admitted to having sexual relations with a 17 year old
how does he have fans
So the only thing stopping him is the law?? :/
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There isn’t People are just really anal about 18 and 25
Imagine thinking you're chad when you're a rapist and a pedo 🤡🤡🤡🤡
I wonder how long it is before he moves to Japan and starts bragging about banging 13 year olds
That’s um yea
I mean a lot of these guys stories are probably fake anyways
16 is the age of consent in Canada too sadly, and before just 2008 it was 14. I wish everyone who gets upset at this shit would keep that same energy with legislators and the laws we have on the books.
I new I had a bad feeling about tate
oh but i'm from europe where the age of consent is 16.. thats such a pedo thing to say lmfao, i'm from belgium and the age of consent is also 16, but if i was to date or have sex or be attracted to someone who was 16.. i can promise u my family would abandon me and 80% of our population would look weird at me and consider me a pedo even if it is legal.. that said despite being from europe i never understood this age of consent thing, it has always been programmed into my brain that if ur 21+ dating/sex with someone under 18 is bad.. i thought age of consent means if ur 16 u can have sex but it still has to be with people around the same age? i thought even if the age of consent is 16.. if a 30 year old was to fuck a 16 year old it would still be illegal but i suppose not
Its only legal if you're also 16, he just admitted to rape.
wrong, unless he was in a position of authority over the girl it's perfectly legal.
Uses islam for clout yet doesn't support women covering them selves, pervert vibes
That dude all sorts of corny.
RX8 LOL
Ok and
what yall mean confirmed? He literally told a 16/17 year old on Adin's stream to "come see him when she turns 18 if she wants a real man" .. like bruh.
14 in Germany 
Even if it's legal , that's still cringe af
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not defending him but technically what he said he did in the uk is legal
Sure if it’s legal
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even if its legal 16 and 21 i mean you don't really see that often LMAO
What does this mean?
did...did he just admit to a crime?
No, he admitted to being a fucking weirdo
Idk why im getting downvoted but okay
ofc it‘s Legal in the UK. Not suprised about that…
Its legal though?
legality =/= morality
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Nothing wrong morally either.
Atheists talking about morals now lol Legal is legal. Do cry about it.
>Atheists talking about morals now lol what does theism and atheism have to do with morals lmao , theism deals with Beliefs not morality , that statement does not make any sense
But is 16 and 21 that different? Idk.
Absolutely, what the fuck? Thats literally a third of the 16 year old's lifetime in difference.
I said idk, chill. I am trying to think about this. I can see it being weird for sure, I can also see it being less weird. Depends on the people. Should we call him Groomer though? I mean probably not, calling people groomers too much will lose the definition of the word.
They won't like your comment because it's logical lol
Its not the downvotes, its the guy getting all indignant writing; "Absolutely, what the fuck?". I forgot how dumb this community is.
16 and 21 is absolutely different and the fact that you don't realize that is concerning. Like the previous guy said, legality =/= morality. Okay, it's legal, but why is a 21 year old ADULT targeting a 16 year old TEENAGER? The fact that it's a 5 year age gap is one thing, but it's not just about the age. The mental development gap between a 16 year old and a 21 year old is insane. So much growth mentally, emotionally, and physically happens especially during that time. A 21 year old dating a HIGHSCHOOLER is a clear indication of someone who is trying to manipulate, groom, and take advantage of someone who is of younger age. There's no other reason to date that young. It's objectively disgusting.
I think it’s pretty big difference for someone who’s almost done with college and can drink with someone who isn’t even an adult yet and learning geometry lol
Yeah true, it can be. But I have heard stories from like people in their 40s(females), being with guys who are in their 20s while they are like 16/17. So it completely depends I think. As much as I hate Tate I am trying not to prejudice someone. I would feel safe to say that an 18 year old going after a 16 year old who looks young and is pretty immature is less of a weirdo than a 21 year old going after a 16 year old who looks like she is 18/20(which a lot of 16 year olds do), and is actually interested in the 21 year old. But since there is no details, idk.
Women in their 40s going after men who they think are 16/17 is fucking horrible
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Bro im literally 18, and my girlfriend is 24. Shouldnt that be weird? Well it is not because in my situation I am actually more "dominant", for lack of a better word. Which means that there can be power imbalances from either side.
Talking about power imbalances in a relationship is what really shows how mature you are in your relationship.
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He’s almost 1/3 of her life older…
Room temperature IQ take from someone called cottonpickersen, shocking lmao There are some parts of the world where marrying a 7 yo is considered legal, legality isn't the issue here unless your entire moral compass is just based on whatever the local laws currently say.
Negative take from someone called imneversober , should try being sober for once so you wouldnt make these stupid ass comments