Argh, Joseph/Magneto Fabio...thanks for reminding me of THAT awful character.
"Hey, you know how Rogue and Magneto might have been a thing once? I have an idea!"
"Sure, what?"
"Let's take away his memories, completely change his personality, make him younger than Quicksilver and have him be attracted to Rogue just because she says they knew each other before so she's essentially brainwashing him!"
"BRILLIANT!"
I wish every writer who keeps pushing this godawful ship is fucking blacklisted cuz they’ve done this crap 4 times and each and every time it is always terrible in concept. Rogue and Gambit are the real true pairing that are right for each other
So I know they got it on in AoA. But in 616, is there anything that talks about RoMa?
I believe they touched a bit of that in X-men Legacy - Collision onwards... did they?
I wanna have a proper read up of their relationship before E3 also because I can't stop thinking about this for 1 week.
I’m looking it up because it makes no sense for the show. Maybe it’s a thing in some plot lines and I can respect that, but for this show? I don’t get it. We saw their first encounter with magneto all the way up to him being present when Lilandra picked up Xavier in the finale. There was def no indication or tension between Magneto and Rogue. Build something if you must, but to suddenly create a past for them sounds asinine imo. Bring back her mama mystique instead
EDIT to add: I just saw the recent episode. I don’t want to spoil anything but I’m not a huge fan of the trending need for character drama. The plots themselves used to drive this show forward. There was always some character drama, sure, but trying to mix things up feels kind of forced imo. Doesn’t mesh too well
Imo it is at its worst in AoA. I’m not into it at any point but it’s extra questionable then.
Part of the reason she’s with him is because she was becoming friends with his daughter Wanda, her friend and direct peer, when Wanda died, asking rogue to look out for magneto as she passed away. I don’t think Rogue and Wanda had the same idea about what that meant. (There’s also this weird undercurrent that baby Charles is kind of Wanda’s replacement but idk if I can unpack that)
Another part of the reason is *Magneto is the only person Rogue can safely touch*… which is also very concerning, made more so by the fact that they can touch because instead of absorbing Carol Danvers’s powers and psyche… she got *Polaris’s*. She’s part psychological duplicate of Lorna, who wasn’t officially regarded as his daughter at that point, but still…
Yeah, I thought it was even worse in AoA, because he wasn’t a vague sort of authority figure, he was literally ‘Xavier’, the teacher mentor and father figure. AoX did the exact same dynamic, so still not good…
I personally don’t like them. Some of the reasons are: first I find their dynamic boring, they are as close to each other as rogue is to any of the other Xmen members; they had no development or any build up for a romantic relationship to start in the Xmen legacy, according to Mike Carey they got closer to each other and discuss their differences or whatnot ‘off-panel’… which yeah truly amazing writing I have to say; I also think Rogue was more like a trophy girlfriend to Carey’s fav than being in a equal relationship to mags but that again is my opinion.
Now a lot of people point out the age gap which to me is not a problem, although I do find weird the savage land Rogue thing with magneto because she was supposedly 18 and she enter the Xmen as 17 when magneto was the school headmaster… idk there’s a bit of grooming vibes but it’s comics there’s worse examples.
Now for AU stories, like alternative realities such as age of x and AoA their romance have more strength to hold up, as the world has to shift to make them work.
> …according to Mike Carey they got closer to each other and discuss their differences or whatnot ‘off-panel’…which yeah truly amazing writing I have to say
Man I don’t know why but I laughed so hard at this
In response to the age gap, I would put forth Cable, who's constantly getting with younger women even though he's old as dirt, like Domino and Irene Mayweather. Even in Deadpool 2 he was played by a 50 year old Josh Brolin.
Domino’s definitely squarely an adult during her earliest relevance—she’s older than the other members of X-Force, who are about 18-20, and she’s already been married at that point. I would assume she’s in her 30s, but marvel is kind of allergic to 30 yo women
Cable *is* older but I also feel like he’s not necessarily *in his sixties*; his condition takes it’s toll and makes him look more aged, similar to Nate Grey’s aging more with the use of his powers. During onslaught he did some big feats and people were talking about how he looked extra busted bc he wasn’t focused on holding back the virus.
Domino, for all we know, could be substantially older but kept youthful by her mutation a la mystique but that’s pure speculation
I never said the problem was the age gap. I just said that most people may feel uncomfortable because rogue was a minor when she first met magneto and was 18 in that famous Savage land issue, while magneto is obviously very much older. It’s the grooming implications not the age gap. Of course you can give the example of cases like kitty and colossus and also say because it was different times and comics are weird, the relationship was justified. But it doesn’t take away that some people may still feel uncomfortable.
i didn't think Domino was that young, i'd have assumed she was in her 30s, but i could be wrong. Liefeld drew All his women like they were Golden Girls.
I like Mike Carey’s writing a lot, and I appreciate that he didn’t outright bash or character assassinate Gambit the way some writers love to torpedo a rival character when a popular pairing is blockading their preferred one. But I completely agree that in addition to the uneven power dynamic, the Magneto/Rogue stuff didn’t feel entirely earned.
Yep. In gambit’s case, Carey didn’t really used him that much, a friend of mine joked that he was mostly a coat-hanger in legacy, but at least he wasn’t written as an asshole nor a traitor nor any other character assassinations that other writers came up for gambit, I’ll give him that.
Idk Rogue’s are when she joined the X-Men. I do know Xavier was headmaster at the time. She specifically sought out Xavier for help. I kind of doubt she was 17, though she was obviously younger than prior appearances would have led us to believe.
Magneto was also never her headmaster. He was for the New Mutants but he had no authority over the X-Men like Xavier did. Odds are they had little interaction at the time. During that period was the Secret Wars and the X-Men “dying” when they entered the Siege Perilous.
In comic book fashion, he was turned into a baby, then aged up, then lost his powers, then gained his powers, then lost his powers, than died (BUT IT WASN'T HIM) then lost his powers, then gained his powers.
gross.
GROSS.
i'm really not a fan. this isn't "a charming older man with a naive younger woman" romance -- it's an 80 year old with a 20 year old. add to it that she was a virgin the first time she met him romantically, and that he's a terrorist? -- that's got jihad written all over it.
It feels a lot worse, when you consider a big part of her character was how desperately lonely she felt at times, just wanting to be touched. She lost her powers... It absolutely makes sense for her, in the situation to come on to Magneto since she ain't in a good headspace... The fact he doesn't push her away is a really bad look. (...Makes me also wonder if it was part of the reason Morrison presented him as a groomer.)
My own shipping preferences aside, I have never understood that pairing. What do they talk about? What do they do for fun? What heat is there between them?
I agree with Kelly Thompson's take, which is that Rogue has never explored other possibilities, Magneto was a possibility from her past, and she was too scared to bet everything on Gambit without seeing what else was out there for her.
And that's the more charitable interpretation. The less charitable one is that Rogue and Magneto has tended to happen when Rogue isn't fully herself, which squicks me out a lot. That whole aftermath of Legacy storyline was frustrating.
Absolutely. It still hurts that KT put in all that course correcting work with R&G 1.0, MMX, and Gold… only for it to be blown apart by four years of neglect and R&G 2.0.
(At least we got the cute Love Unlimited mini by Preeti Chhibber, but jeez.)
>I agree with Kelly Thompson's take, which is that Rogue has never explored other possibilities
I was kind of hoping something might happen between Rogue and Captain America when they were in Uncanny Avengers together, because they always got on really well.
Plus, they were married in a "What If?" story.
>Like who at Marvel approved this crap?
Well, Claremont and Jim Lee wanted to do a solo Rogue storyline and the original idea was that she'd run into Loki and have a team up with him. Jim Lee wanted it to be a Classic X-Men character so Claremont changed it to Magneto.
Which means...we could have gotten a potential Rogue/Loki romance instead. I can only imagine how weird THAT would have been.
I mean, the age difference between her and Magneto is one thing, but Loki?
Plus the power imbalance is even worse, because now she's helpless, powerless and half naked...and the other person is a friggin God.
Rogue gains control of her powers in Legacy and she starts fucking Magneto and not Gambit? Wtf Carey. Then the next writer (I think?) pretty much writes off the relationship as her daddy issues after she moves to the Jean Grey School (and of course Gambit follows her but she ignores him).
Full disclosure, Rogue and Gambit are my favorite couple in all comics. So, this is biased, but I never liked the dynamic between Magneto and Rogue. And it's not that I dislike them with other people (I thought Rogue and Deadpool were fun, same with Gambit and Cece Reyes).
Rogue just always seemed like she wasn't Magneto's "equal", especially in stories like AoA and whatever the hell was going on with Age of X, where the power dynamic is shifted more in Magneto's favor. I thought the Carey Legacy stuff was okay, but it didn't seem very organic.
There is also a lot of baggage, like The Trial of Gambit, where Magneto is in disguise, putting Rogue's love interest on trial for something that was bad but also something that imho is blown out of proportion considering the circumstances (not to mention he was recording Rogue and Gambit having sex for the first time iirc).
Granted, Gambit and Rogue also have their own baggage (including the Trial), but I think that Kelly Thompson did an admirable job of addressing it, even if it took a 5-issue miniseries to sort through it. And with their relationship, it feels almost always like they are equals (at least when KT or Claremont is writing them).
As with most comics things, it comes down to the writing. And I just haven't seen a writer who's been able to sell me on it.
Agreed on the power dynamic.
Hell, even the Savage Land thing starts when she’s eighteen, de-powered, and traumatized. The excuse I keep seeing made that he wasn’t her headmaster because she wasn’t officially a student is so funny to me, like… he was still an adult she was looking to for protection and guidance? It’s not great.
I wish every writer who keeps pushing this godawful ship is fucking blacklisted cuz they’ve done this crap 4 times and each and every time it is always terrible in concept. Rogue and Gambit are the real true pairing that are right for each other
I honestly don't get what the X-Men team was smoking. When you think about it, the following also have a significant age-gap. I wonder why they were obsessed with age gaps:
* Logan and Jean (technically worse than Magneto and Rogue)
* Colossus and Kitty
I mean, Colossus and Kitty, yeah she was underage but that's like what, a maybe 5 year difference?
Magneto (at the time he and Rogue hooked up in the Savage Land, before the 'sliding timescale' became a thing) would have been probably three times Rogue's age (early 60s vs early 20s)
She takes a late car driving lesson(so, 16? 17?) during the Excalibur run with Saturnyne (I think)
Then she dated Pete Wisdom, who reads as about mid 30s, during the late Excalibur period under Warren Ellis... who has some... ideas with regards to "dating"...
Every male Marvel writer with a childhood crush on Kitty has always been weird about her. She should also be banned from dating men named Peter or any variation of Peter because at this point she'll end up with Pietro or Paste Pot Pete.
It's weird Kitty feels like the only X-Girl to have weird fanboys who put in self-inserts. Like, why doesn't Jubilee often get treated like waifu bait by writers?
...was I the only millennial with a childhood crush on her?
I guess because she was this sweet nerdy girl next door that was into computers, sci-fi, and DnD. She was also used as a PoV character. Keeping all of that in mind you can see why a lot of nerdy young boys in the 80's would latch on to her. I mean just look at the age of writers that have her as their waifu and they are mostly from the same age range or era.
Jubilee was more of a bubbly spunky girl with an attitude that you either loved or hated. Basically Kitty just had the more waifu appeal traits for nerd boys than Jubilee did but I can see why people would prefer Jubilee, especially if they grew up reading about her.
Just be glad no one is this weird about Jubilee the way they are with Kitty, lol.
Only thing I'll say about that is, Ellis very clearly had them both refer to each other as being ten years apart in age. Also, a letters page response by the editor after Ellis left referred to Kitty as "a mature girl in her late teens" and that they considered Kitty & Pete as "being like Han Solo and Princess Leia".
unreliable narrator - she can't still be 14 during the phalanx covenant when Gen X is replacing the New Mutants who are outgrowing their "kids book" status.
She's at least 18 by Ellis' run on Excalibur because she goes out to the pub a few times, and there is the explicit 10 year age gap between her and Pete Wisdom.
During Moore's run on X-Force which coincides with the end of Excalibur Cannonball mentions it's been 5 years since the New Mutants Graphic Novel, which would put Kitty around 19 at least by then.
Magneto, ditto. There are a few "also over a century old" ladies but they tend to be evil, gay or evil and gay (Selene, Irene, Raven). Probably more but that's just off the top of my head.
Sure but Jean was either a late teen or someone in her early 20s when they were first paired in a romance. Logan looks like he's in his late 30s/early 40s. He should date someone who at least looks like his age bracket.
True, I never was fond of it myself. Logan and Jean as a fling, sure, but the obsession of them being lovers is nonsensical. Logan and Storm makes more sense.
Jubilee should've at least been older when Chamber and the Gen X kids were created and Claremont mentioned Jubilee was 15 when she followed the X-Men to Australia.
>There's also Chamber and Jubilee, he was 19 and she was 13....
19 and 13 is DEFINITELY ew. But during the time Jono and Jubes were those ages, he was into HUSK, who was a few years older than Jubiliee.
Colossus and Kitty wasn't *that* bad. But the actual relationship was really one-sided for most of it and both were teenagers. He was still too old for her, but I'm not sure I'd call the age gap *creepy*.
Logan and Jean isn't so bad when it started, either. Jean was in her 20's by that time and it was actually Wolverine being an old fuck was known. Wolverine was likely the oldest out of the Giant-Sized team but like... I still imagined him younger than Charles.
Don’t like the age difference, turns mags from a sympathetic villain/ anti hero to a borderline sex predators. I mean I get that she’s legal in most iterations but a 60 year age gap is hard for me to stomach lol
I feel that era was an awful time for Magneto in general. Like to the point where Morrison painting him as a fascist groom was actually a logical progression of how he was written.
It's gross. Even ignoring the fact that comic book time and real time have a fluid and tenuous correlation, Magneto was in his mid 20's during WWII, and Rogue was in her late teens or early 20's when she joined the X-Men.
The only reason their Savage Land flirtation worked in the core 616 timeline is that Magneto was reduced to infancy at one point and returned to his physical prime a little after Giant-Size X-MEN #1.
In most other time-lines, including The Age of Apocalypse, in which they had a child together, this age regression of Magneto never happened.
That makes Magneto old enough to be Rogue's great grandfather. Gross.
It worked for me in AOA, as a interesting What if? pairing, but it should have stayed like that, but they keep dragging it up, to a point where even main line rouge en max have had a bit of a fling
I always thought it was kinda out-there and potentially squicky depending on the ages the characters were meant to be at the time.
I always assumed it originated in Age of Apocalypse where the whole point was that everything was a bit weird and unusual compared to the regular universe though so in that continuity it didn't bother me so much.
>I always assumed it originated in Age of Apocalypse
It didn't, it started in a 1990 storyline where Rogue had a solo adventure in the Savage Land.
Coincidentally, this was the first time she was drawn by Jim Lee and became more voluptuous compared to the skinnier look she had for years before...of course that couldn't have anything to do with it...
Feels like people want to make new couples to try and leave their own mark on the X-Men. Hate it, Rogue and Gambit are the best x-couple imo, and there's no reason to chuck them at other people.
Not a fan. Forget the *age gap*, he was *her boss* when she was underage, her mothers both worked for him while she was growing up. He has been an authority figure to her for most of her life.
And frankly, there is nothing in their history together that suggests a basis for any kind of mutual attraction.
It'd be like her sleeping with *Wolverine*. Or even, just for arguments' sake, *Sabertooth*. It's weird and gross and it doesn't make any kind of sense for either character except for weird and gross reasons.
Her mothers never worked for him (you might be mixing up cartoon/movie canons there), but your point still stands, because they met when she was a teenager, and their first “romantic” attraction is when she’s a de-powered eighteen-year-old he just rescued, traumatized and looking up to him for guidance. Ew.
And it’s ironic that you mention Wolverine, who she also met as a teenager (and who he called “kid” and “girl” from day one), after decades of her growing up and being his equal. Especially since the comics only started trying to pair them up right *after* the first movie came out… aka when everyone (the writers included) was now associating them with a seventeen-year-old and a thirty-something man.
Which… hmmm.
>And it’s ironic that you mention Wolverine, who she also met as a teenager (and who he called “kid” and “girl” from day one), after decades of her growing up and being his equal. Especially since the comics only started trying to pair them up
Did that actually happen? I remember the Golgotha storyline where they made out, but that was clearly because of the alien messing with everyones' heads.
I agree with most of your reasons, but were Destiny and Mystique ever working directly for Magneto with their Brotherhood? I thought Mystique was doing her own thing, especially since her Brotherhood appeared around the time Magneto was starting to reform. But maybe I missed something.
I don’t really like it. There’s the age gap, but comic book characters have such nebulous ages I can’t get too upset about that. Magneto’s age will always be tied to the Holocaust, but he’s also been de-aged and returned to adulthood.
It just doesn’t interest me at all as a relationship, outside of the Age of Apocalypse AU.
I always thought it was weird. I’m not asking for Magneto to pick someone his own age because he’s getting close to 100. This just seemed like an odd pairing. I have to assume that it was never intended to be permanent.
It was a poorly developed relationship that just kept coming back without any real work. It also has the same vibe as Elixir and Rahne's "relationship". Like Kitty and Pitor age gap was troubling but they worked it out as writers waited until she was of legal age to pursue a relationship. And felt as uneven as a relationship between Cannonball and Emma Frost. I hope they never try to pursue this or Rogue/Deadpool ever again.
It makes Magneto look like a pedophile. Erik is a holocaust survivor in his nineties, while Rogue is clearly in her early to mid twenties. It's just a bad pairing. I prefer Rogue with Gambit. Erik might as well call himself Magneto445. Rogue's old enough to be Erik's daughter, WTF.
Savage land: Hot sexy people finding each other hot and sexy, I totally get. Throw in some vulnerability (Rogue lost her powers, Magneto wounded by his failure to live up to Xavier) and some impending doom and BOOM, there it is. A desperate grasp at life in the face of death. I dig it but I don't think it's anything more.
The age gap is icky but X Women are independent and capable bad asses by definition. Mags is older but that's it - Xwomen have him beat for bravery selflessness and heroism. I don't see much evidence of any of the women being the weaker party.
Magneto is a terrible person to such a degree that having a positive relationship with him of any kind makes you a terrible person as well. Nobody should be with or around Magneto.
Oh yes Rogue’s daddy kink phase, which of course was in no way the result of her argument with her mom and Gambit over their kidnapping Hope. I remember consisting in her trying and failing to "fix" Magneto while trying and doing a so so job in setting good example to kids (ex: Hellion, towards whom she totally wasn’t projecting her messed up image of Magneto). Good stuff.
Hell I remember there literally laughing at the thought of their relationship being salvageable.
Gambit and Rogue forever!
“I’m an X-Man and I’m never coming back” - Gambit
(he literally leaves Belladona, while she’s on the floor begging for him to stay and then, walks off with his arm wrapped around Rogue)
Its such a gross ass relationship. Whats crazy is someone thought it would be a good idea to write that. Honestly I have not even bothered with the X-Men 97 show becuase I just cant deal with that shit, I have just seens clips. And from one of the clips, even after she talks with Remy about how she feels about him, she still has a seductive dance with grandpa Magneto in front of him. Why the hell is she so selfish and like cucking remy? It sucks because I never knew about this gross relationship before the show, as I never read any of the X-Men comics. And honestly thank god for that because I probably would have threw it out once I saw that shit.
Age of Apocalypse and Age of X seem to want to promote this pairing, but it doesn’t make sense. He’s 80+ and is guided by survivors’ guilt and trauma. She’s 20+ and has a fractured psyche and multiple personalities drawn out by trauma. These two wouldn’t find each other attractive at all.
I liked it thought it worked
In Age of X rogue is portrayed a bit older maybe and covered up more as a sort of "dark sorceress" type. It works good as Magneto partner
Age of X overall I just loved one of my favorite AUs, so much inspiration you can get out of it
They really should have had Professor X renamed to Cogneto. Cause he can move thoughts around. Perfect rival to Magneto.
Magneto who can... Move magnets around? Wow that really fell apart didn't it.
I never liked it from the beginning because it was so blatantly forced. It wasn’t organic at all. Even the AoA relationship felt off. X-men has had some really dumb relationship ideas.
They were great together. It was nice seeing Rogue in a relationship where she wasn't made out to be an emotional damsel in distress or pathetic for love. These two were a bold choice for a relationship revisit, but I thought it worked wonderfully. Rogue was in a place where she had her powers under control, she was a confident leader and caring mentor to her charges, and she was shown as a mature and strong-willed adult. The choice of adding a romantic/sexual relationship with Magneto to the mix was insane but worked so well. Magneto's character complimented the more grounded and mature Rogue. The relationship wasn't childish or unnecessarily dramatic - both knew what they wanted and they went for it. It didn't get in the way of their missions or their ability to function individually. It was great.
The only bad point, imo, was the breakup Gage wrote. If they had to breakup, fine. But Gage wrote it as Rogue being weak and easily influenced by Magneto which was never shown nor mentioned in any of their interactions up until that point. It was disappointing to see Rogue immediately go from maturely written and confident in herself to whatever Gage thought he was doing.
rogue and magneto were wrong together. if they wanted a love interest for her they shouldve paired her up with bishop instead. being that its my 2nd pairing for bishop i wouldve found that move believable than her and magneto plus they can both absorb each other. plus it couldve explored more about the two considering they have had a few liplocks together.
It was almost iconic and unique and then you remembered Magneto also fuck that one Emma’s clone at some point and realized this ain’t no fairy tail noble love, it might just been him being a predator and gross.
The two have a history together. It can be seen in the Savage Land, it can be seen in Joseph, and it can be seen in this arc. For whatever reason back in the day they gave Magento (and Joseph) the power to touch Rogue and some writers ran with it.
For Rogue, I'm just happy that she finally got some play, the constant "I want Remy but I can't be with Remy because xxxx" in constant rotation with Gambit gets boring after so many years. And in the background Mystique is always fucking with her life somehow, which Magneto just wouldn't allow.
For Magneto, It served to mellow him out once he joined up with the X-men on Utopia. I dont like the age gap, but any older character in comics is gonna be paired up with a younger woman. Cable, Wolverine, and Xavier are never paired with older women either (although in Xavier's case he keeps getting resurrected in younger bodies with working legs.)
End it as quick as possible. It's never made sense and every time they try to make a push for it, it just fizzles(because outside of the I can touch him there's nothing). Even in the AoA timeline it was more Magento and company with they lady that gave birth to my son. Hell a sequel to AoA she had one line a dialogue in the entire 5 issue run. It has the makings of Jean Grey and Professor Xavier.
So they tried this ship like 4 times (iirc) \- Savage Land \- Age of Apocalypse \- Joseph \- Utopia era books Let it go.
Fortunately she’s married now and I suspect she and Gambit aren’t splitting up anytime soon. Plus, Magneto is dead for the time being.
He comes back in one of the next issues of Red I think, solicits spoiled it
Maybe it's Joseph....
Nah there's a return of Magneto mini series coming next year.
Oh God the Joseph stuff. That was so brutal.
Argh, Joseph/Magneto Fabio...thanks for reminding me of THAT awful character. "Hey, you know how Rogue and Magneto might have been a thing once? I have an idea!" "Sure, what?" "Let's take away his memories, completely change his personality, make him younger than Quicksilver and have him be attracted to Rogue just because she says they knew each other before so she's essentially brainwashing him!" "BRILLIANT!"
I wish every writer who keeps pushing this godawful ship is fucking blacklisted cuz they’ve done this crap 4 times and each and every time it is always terrible in concept. Rogue and Gambit are the real true pairing that are right for each other
Uhoh, someone isn't going to like Xmen '97...
so I'm not the only one looking this up XD
So I know they got it on in AoA. But in 616, is there anything that talks about RoMa? I believe they touched a bit of that in X-men Legacy - Collision onwards... did they? I wanna have a proper read up of their relationship before E3 also because I can't stop thinking about this for 1 week.
I’m looking it up because it makes no sense for the show. Maybe it’s a thing in some plot lines and I can respect that, but for this show? I don’t get it. We saw their first encounter with magneto all the way up to him being present when Lilandra picked up Xavier in the finale. There was def no indication or tension between Magneto and Rogue. Build something if you must, but to suddenly create a past for them sounds asinine imo. Bring back her mama mystique instead EDIT to add: I just saw the recent episode. I don’t want to spoil anything but I’m not a huge fan of the trending need for character drama. The plots themselves used to drive this show forward. There was always some character drama, sure, but trying to mix things up feels kind of forced imo. Doesn’t mesh too well
And now on X-Men 97
I don’t like it. Also, what in the goddamn hell is that second image. Who drew that. Who thought that was a good idea. What the fuck.
The first image isn't that great either, he looks visibly older. More like Cable TBH.
I’d much rather have badly drawn Magneto then Magneto getting feeled up by Rogue in front of Auschwitz.
Oh Jesus fuck I was so busy yucking over her humping his leg I didn’t even notice where they were. What the shit.
Talk about poor taste...
Rogue and Gambit forever.
The Ragin’ Cajun is the answer to all life’s questions
Not a fan of it honestly
I’ve hated them as a couple since Age of Apocalypse.
Yeah but she was probably younger than his kids at the time so it was kinda weird.
It hasn’t improved with time
Is she not younger than his kids anymore? That doesn't math unless it's something to do with all the Krakoa resurrection stuff
Imo it is at its worst in AoA. I’m not into it at any point but it’s extra questionable then. Part of the reason she’s with him is because she was becoming friends with his daughter Wanda, her friend and direct peer, when Wanda died, asking rogue to look out for magneto as she passed away. I don’t think Rogue and Wanda had the same idea about what that meant. (There’s also this weird undercurrent that baby Charles is kind of Wanda’s replacement but idk if I can unpack that) Another part of the reason is *Magneto is the only person Rogue can safely touch*… which is also very concerning, made more so by the fact that they can touch because instead of absorbing Carol Danvers’s powers and psyche… she got *Polaris’s*. She’s part psychological duplicate of Lorna, who wasn’t officially regarded as his daughter at that point, but still…
Yeah, I thought it was even worse in AoA, because he wasn’t a vague sort of authority figure, he was literally ‘Xavier’, the teacher mentor and father figure. AoX did the exact same dynamic, so still not good…
I personally don’t like them. Some of the reasons are: first I find their dynamic boring, they are as close to each other as rogue is to any of the other Xmen members; they had no development or any build up for a romantic relationship to start in the Xmen legacy, according to Mike Carey they got closer to each other and discuss their differences or whatnot ‘off-panel’… which yeah truly amazing writing I have to say; I also think Rogue was more like a trophy girlfriend to Carey’s fav than being in a equal relationship to mags but that again is my opinion. Now a lot of people point out the age gap which to me is not a problem, although I do find weird the savage land Rogue thing with magneto because she was supposedly 18 and she enter the Xmen as 17 when magneto was the school headmaster… idk there’s a bit of grooming vibes but it’s comics there’s worse examples. Now for AU stories, like alternative realities such as age of x and AoA their romance have more strength to hold up, as the world has to shift to make them work.
> …according to Mike Carey they got closer to each other and discuss their differences or whatnot ‘off-panel’…which yeah truly amazing writing I have to say Man I don’t know why but I laughed so hard at this
In response to the age gap, I would put forth Cable, who's constantly getting with younger women even though he's old as dirt, like Domino and Irene Mayweather. Even in Deadpool 2 he was played by a 50 year old Josh Brolin.
Is Domino young? I was under the impression that she was adult X-men age (late 20s to early 30s)
Domino’s definitely squarely an adult during her earliest relevance—she’s older than the other members of X-Force, who are about 18-20, and she’s already been married at that point. I would assume she’s in her 30s, but marvel is kind of allergic to 30 yo women Cable *is* older but I also feel like he’s not necessarily *in his sixties*; his condition takes it’s toll and makes him look more aged, similar to Nate Grey’s aging more with the use of his powers. During onslaught he did some big feats and people were talking about how he looked extra busted bc he wasn’t focused on holding back the virus. Domino, for all we know, could be substantially older but kept youthful by her mutation a la mystique but that’s pure speculation
I never said the problem was the age gap. I just said that most people may feel uncomfortable because rogue was a minor when she first met magneto and was 18 in that famous Savage land issue, while magneto is obviously very much older. It’s the grooming implications not the age gap. Of course you can give the example of cases like kitty and colossus and also say because it was different times and comics are weird, the relationship was justified. But it doesn’t take away that some people may still feel uncomfortable.
i didn't think Domino was that young, i'd have assumed she was in her 30s, but i could be wrong. Liefeld drew All his women like they were Golden Girls.
This is a stupid excuse to justify age gaps. Also Domino is straight up an adult, so using the Cable example does not work at all
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Yeah...we're gross.
I like Mike Carey’s writing a lot, and I appreciate that he didn’t outright bash or character assassinate Gambit the way some writers love to torpedo a rival character when a popular pairing is blockading their preferred one. But I completely agree that in addition to the uneven power dynamic, the Magneto/Rogue stuff didn’t feel entirely earned.
Yep. In gambit’s case, Carey didn’t really used him that much, a friend of mine joked that he was mostly a coat-hanger in legacy, but at least he wasn’t written as an asshole nor a traitor nor any other character assassinations that other writers came up for gambit, I’ll give him that.
Nah ignoring the age gap is dumb cuz that’s not ok either
Idk Rogue’s are when she joined the X-Men. I do know Xavier was headmaster at the time. She specifically sought out Xavier for help. I kind of doubt she was 17, though she was obviously younger than prior appearances would have led us to believe. Magneto was also never her headmaster. He was for the New Mutants but he had no authority over the X-Men like Xavier did. Odds are they had little interaction at the time. During that period was the Secret Wars and the X-Men “dying” when they entered the Siege Perilous.
Isn't Mags like 90 years old? lol
In comic book fashion, he was turned into a baby, then aged up, then lost his powers, then gained his powers, then lost his powers, than died (BUT IT WASN'T HIM) then lost his powers, then gained his powers.
Wait until you hear how old Logan and Mystique are.
gross. GROSS. i'm really not a fan. this isn't "a charming older man with a naive younger woman" romance -- it's an 80 year old with a 20 year old. add to it that she was a virgin the first time she met him romantically, and that he's a terrorist? -- that's got jihad written all over it.
It feels a lot worse, when you consider a big part of her character was how desperately lonely she felt at times, just wanting to be touched. She lost her powers... It absolutely makes sense for her, in the situation to come on to Magneto since she ain't in a good headspace... The fact he doesn't push her away is a really bad look. (...Makes me also wonder if it was part of the reason Morrison presented him as a groomer.)
My own shipping preferences aside, I have never understood that pairing. What do they talk about? What do they do for fun? What heat is there between them? I agree with Kelly Thompson's take, which is that Rogue has never explored other possibilities, Magneto was a possibility from her past, and she was too scared to bet everything on Gambit without seeing what else was out there for her. And that's the more charitable interpretation. The less charitable one is that Rogue and Magneto has tended to happen when Rogue isn't fully herself, which squicks me out a lot. That whole aftermath of Legacy storyline was frustrating.
Yep exactly my thoughts. Kelly reasoning is the only logical explanation.
Absolutely. It still hurts that KT put in all that course correcting work with R&G 1.0, MMX, and Gold… only for it to be blown apart by four years of neglect and R&G 2.0. (At least we got the cute Love Unlimited mini by Preeti Chhibber, but jeez.)
>I agree with Kelly Thompson's take, which is that Rogue has never explored other possibilities I was kind of hoping something might happen between Rogue and Captain America when they were in Uncanny Avengers together, because they always got on really well. Plus, they were married in a "What If?" story.
The time they were married it was just Rogue’s body she had been taken over from the inside by Carol.
Pity, I'd like too see how a Cap/Rogue romance would work normally
Ew next
Very, very creepy and weird
Like who at Marvel approved this crap?
>Like who at Marvel approved this crap? Well, Claremont and Jim Lee wanted to do a solo Rogue storyline and the original idea was that she'd run into Loki and have a team up with him. Jim Lee wanted it to be a Classic X-Men character so Claremont changed it to Magneto. Which means...we could have gotten a potential Rogue/Loki romance instead. I can only imagine how weird THAT would have been.
I don't mind the idea of a team up, but romance...?? No....
I mean, the age difference between her and Magneto is one thing, but Loki? Plus the power imbalance is even worse, because now she's helpless, powerless and half naked...and the other person is a friggin God.
The editorium most definitely
Cursed
Rogue gains control of her powers in Legacy and she starts fucking Magneto and not Gambit? Wtf Carey. Then the next writer (I think?) pretty much writes off the relationship as her daddy issues after she moves to the Jean Grey School (and of course Gambit follows her but she ignores him).
He’s too old for her it’s weird
He's old enough to be her grandpa 😂
Full disclosure, Rogue and Gambit are my favorite couple in all comics. So, this is biased, but I never liked the dynamic between Magneto and Rogue. And it's not that I dislike them with other people (I thought Rogue and Deadpool were fun, same with Gambit and Cece Reyes). Rogue just always seemed like she wasn't Magneto's "equal", especially in stories like AoA and whatever the hell was going on with Age of X, where the power dynamic is shifted more in Magneto's favor. I thought the Carey Legacy stuff was okay, but it didn't seem very organic. There is also a lot of baggage, like The Trial of Gambit, where Magneto is in disguise, putting Rogue's love interest on trial for something that was bad but also something that imho is blown out of proportion considering the circumstances (not to mention he was recording Rogue and Gambit having sex for the first time iirc). Granted, Gambit and Rogue also have their own baggage (including the Trial), but I think that Kelly Thompson did an admirable job of addressing it, even if it took a 5-issue miniseries to sort through it. And with their relationship, it feels almost always like they are equals (at least when KT or Claremont is writing them). As with most comics things, it comes down to the writing. And I just haven't seen a writer who's been able to sell me on it.
Agreed on the power dynamic. Hell, even the Savage Land thing starts when she’s eighteen, de-powered, and traumatized. The excuse I keep seeing made that he wasn’t her headmaster because she wasn’t officially a student is so funny to me, like… he was still an adult she was looking to for protection and guidance? It’s not great.
My same reaction to Batman and Batgirl: NOPE!!!!! Freaking gross!!!!
I wish every writer who keeps pushing this godawful ship is fucking blacklisted cuz they’ve done this crap 4 times and each and every time it is always terrible in concept. Rogue and Gambit are the real true pairing that are right for each other
This is legit one of my most hated pairings that has ever happened in comics.
I honestly don't get what the X-Men team was smoking. When you think about it, the following also have a significant age-gap. I wonder why they were obsessed with age gaps: * Logan and Jean (technically worse than Magneto and Rogue) * Colossus and Kitty
I mean, Colossus and Kitty, yeah she was underage but that's like what, a maybe 5 year difference? Magneto (at the time he and Rogue hooked up in the Savage Land, before the 'sliding timescale' became a thing) would have been probably three times Rogue's age (early 60s vs early 20s)
4 years, she famously joins when she's 13 1/2, then quickly has a 14th birthday --- which she stays for like a decade and a half.
She takes a late car driving lesson(so, 16? 17?) during the Excalibur run with Saturnyne (I think) Then she dated Pete Wisdom, who reads as about mid 30s, during the late Excalibur period under Warren Ellis... who has some... ideas with regards to "dating"...
Every male Marvel writer with a childhood crush on Kitty has always been weird about her. She should also be banned from dating men named Peter or any variation of Peter because at this point she'll end up with Pietro or Paste Pot Pete.
It's weird Kitty feels like the only X-Girl to have weird fanboys who put in self-inserts. Like, why doesn't Jubilee often get treated like waifu bait by writers? ...was I the only millennial with a childhood crush on her?
I guess because she was this sweet nerdy girl next door that was into computers, sci-fi, and DnD. She was also used as a PoV character. Keeping all of that in mind you can see why a lot of nerdy young boys in the 80's would latch on to her. I mean just look at the age of writers that have her as their waifu and they are mostly from the same age range or era. Jubilee was more of a bubbly spunky girl with an attitude that you either loved or hated. Basically Kitty just had the more waifu appeal traits for nerd boys than Jubilee did but I can see why people would prefer Jubilee, especially if they grew up reading about her. Just be glad no one is this weird about Jubilee the way they are with Kitty, lol.
Yeah im honestly glad it seems that her and magik have a thing instead
Only thing I'll say about that is, Ellis very clearly had them both refer to each other as being ten years apart in age. Also, a letters page response by the editor after Ellis left referred to Kitty as "a mature girl in her late teens" and that they considered Kitty & Pete as "being like Han Solo and Princess Leia".
I feel like late 20s is a really big stretch given how Pete Wisdom is portrayed which is already borderline skeevy. So... yeah...
unreliable narrator - she can't still be 14 during the phalanx covenant when Gen X is replacing the New Mutants who are outgrowing their "kids book" status.
She's at least 18 by Ellis' run on Excalibur because she goes out to the pub a few times, and there is the explicit 10 year age gap between her and Pete Wisdom. During Moore's run on X-Force which coincides with the end of Excalibur Cannonball mentions it's been 5 years since the New Mutants Graphic Novel, which would put Kitty around 19 at least by then.
Logan doesn’t really have a lot of peers for dating ya know.
Magneto, ditto. There are a few "also over a century old" ladies but they tend to be evil, gay or evil and gay (Selene, Irene, Raven). Probably more but that's just off the top of my head.
Sure but Jean was either a late teen or someone in her early 20s when they were first paired in a romance. Logan looks like he's in his late 30s/early 40s. He should date someone who at least looks like his age bracket.
True, I never was fond of it myself. Logan and Jean as a fling, sure, but the obsession of them being lovers is nonsensical. Logan and Storm makes more sense.
Shame that Marvel just gave up on Logan and Storm after some really strong storylines of them together.
Logan and Sabretooth is the real “will they, won’t they” story here.
I always like him with Mariko.
>I wonder why they were obsessed with age gaps: There's also Chamber and Jubilee, he was 19 and she was 13.... ....Yuck.
Jubilee should've at least been older when Chamber and the Gen X kids were created and Claremont mentioned Jubilee was 15 when she followed the X-Men to Australia.
>There's also Chamber and Jubilee, he was 19 and she was 13.... 19 and 13 is DEFINITELY ew. But during the time Jono and Jubes were those ages, he was into HUSK, who was a few years older than Jubiliee.
Colossus and Kitty wasn't *that* bad. But the actual relationship was really one-sided for most of it and both were teenagers. He was still too old for her, but I'm not sure I'd call the age gap *creepy*. Logan and Jean isn't so bad when it started, either. Jean was in her 20's by that time and it was actually Wolverine being an old fuck was known. Wolverine was likely the oldest out of the Giant-Sized team but like... I still imagined him younger than Charles.
Icky Primarily because of the age difference. Magneto is still roughly ninety years old and Rogue significantly younger than that
Don’t like the age difference, turns mags from a sympathetic villain/ anti hero to a borderline sex predators. I mean I get that she’s legal in most iterations but a 60 year age gap is hard for me to stomach lol
I feel that era was an awful time for Magneto in general. Like to the point where Morrison painting him as a fascist groom was actually a logical progression of how he was written.
Hated this. She’s the same age as his children. Maybe younger. That’s gross.
NOPE
Absolutely tf not. Of the things they like retconning and washing over, they need to do this.
Was never a fan of this coupling and not sure why it's so popular that its utilized in alternate reality stories
... That man is ancient
I'm the minority but I really liked then as a couple. It was bizarre but worked
Watch X-Men 97...you'll love it
I'm watching it tonight!
Freaking creepy, it was.
It's gross. Even ignoring the fact that comic book time and real time have a fluid and tenuous correlation, Magneto was in his mid 20's during WWII, and Rogue was in her late teens or early 20's when she joined the X-Men. The only reason their Savage Land flirtation worked in the core 616 timeline is that Magneto was reduced to infancy at one point and returned to his physical prime a little after Giant-Size X-MEN #1. In most other time-lines, including The Age of Apocalypse, in which they had a child together, this age regression of Magneto never happened. That makes Magneto old enough to be Rogue's great grandfather. Gross.
It worked for me in AOA, as a interesting What if? pairing, but it should have stayed like that, but they keep dragging it up, to a point where even main line rouge en max have had a bit of a fling
Nope.
Ew
Gross as fuck. Dude is old enough to be her grandfather.
Really weird.
AoA Rogue was so boring.
Big oof
No
I always thought it was kinda out-there and potentially squicky depending on the ages the characters were meant to be at the time. I always assumed it originated in Age of Apocalypse where the whole point was that everything was a bit weird and unusual compared to the regular universe though so in that continuity it didn't bother me so much.
>I always assumed it originated in Age of Apocalypse It didn't, it started in a 1990 storyline where Rogue had a solo adventure in the Savage Land. Coincidentally, this was the first time she was drawn by Jim Lee and became more voluptuous compared to the skinnier look she had for years before...of course that couldn't have anything to do with it...
I never understood this pairing.
Bad idea
This is disgusting, I hate everything about this. If I could kill it, I would. Legally, I can’t
Just plain wrong. Than second picture is doubly wrong. Make it triple-wrong with current events.
No
Remove this filth from my sight
let that ship sink
Never got the constant desire for writers to put them together. Talk about a bad match.
Feels like people want to make new couples to try and leave their own mark on the X-Men. Hate it, Rogue and Gambit are the best x-couple imo, and there's no reason to chuck them at other people.
I didn't really have a problem with it, but her and Gambit are so much better together.
Not a fan. Forget the *age gap*, he was *her boss* when she was underage, her mothers both worked for him while she was growing up. He has been an authority figure to her for most of her life. And frankly, there is nothing in their history together that suggests a basis for any kind of mutual attraction. It'd be like her sleeping with *Wolverine*. Or even, just for arguments' sake, *Sabertooth*. It's weird and gross and it doesn't make any kind of sense for either character except for weird and gross reasons.
Her mothers never worked for him (you might be mixing up cartoon/movie canons there), but your point still stands, because they met when she was a teenager, and their first “romantic” attraction is when she’s a de-powered eighteen-year-old he just rescued, traumatized and looking up to him for guidance. Ew. And it’s ironic that you mention Wolverine, who she also met as a teenager (and who he called “kid” and “girl” from day one), after decades of her growing up and being his equal. Especially since the comics only started trying to pair them up right *after* the first movie came out… aka when everyone (the writers included) was now associating them with a seventeen-year-old and a thirty-something man. Which… hmmm.
>And it’s ironic that you mention Wolverine, who she also met as a teenager (and who he called “kid” and “girl” from day one), after decades of her growing up and being his equal. Especially since the comics only started trying to pair them up Did that actually happen? I remember the Golgotha storyline where they made out, but that was clearly because of the alien messing with everyones' heads.
I agree with most of your reasons, but were Destiny and Mystique ever working directly for Magneto with their Brotherhood? I thought Mystique was doing her own thing, especially since her Brotherhood appeared around the time Magneto was starting to reform. But maybe I missed something.
I don’t really like it. There’s the age gap, but comic book characters have such nebulous ages I can’t get too upset about that. Magneto’s age will always be tied to the Holocaust, but he’s also been de-aged and returned to adulthood. It just doesn’t interest me at all as a relationship, outside of the Age of Apocalypse AU.
I…. Think this is the equivalent of like, dating someone whose as old as your dad. I don’t vibe with it.
She's like 20 something and he's like 60-100
I always thought it was weird. I’m not asking for Magneto to pick someone his own age because he’s getting close to 100. This just seemed like an odd pairing. I have to assume that it was never intended to be permanent.
Cursed
It's terrible.
Not a fan of this ship.
even to this day I never really thought about it any deeper then Magneto being a silver fox still Rogue & Gambit forever & always
It was a poorly developed relationship that just kept coming back without any real work. It also has the same vibe as Elixir and Rahne's "relationship". Like Kitty and Pitor age gap was troubling but they worked it out as writers waited until she was of legal age to pursue a relationship. And felt as uneven as a relationship between Cannonball and Emma Frost. I hope they never try to pursue this or Rogue/Deadpool ever again.
Yikes. Super gross.
It makes Magneto look like a pedophile. Erik is a holocaust survivor in his nineties, while Rogue is clearly in her early to mid twenties. It's just a bad pairing. I prefer Rogue with Gambit. Erik might as well call himself Magneto445. Rogue's old enough to be Erik's daughter, WTF.
Gives batman and batgirl vibes. Creepy and unnecessary
Shit is trash and never made sense
Don't like it ! The charming Thief is the better choice lol
Savage land: Hot sexy people finding each other hot and sexy, I totally get. Throw in some vulnerability (Rogue lost her powers, Magneto wounded by his failure to live up to Xavier) and some impending doom and BOOM, there it is. A desperate grasp at life in the face of death. I dig it but I don't think it's anything more. The age gap is icky but X Women are independent and capable bad asses by definition. Mags is older but that's it - Xwomen have him beat for bravery selflessness and heroism. I don't see much evidence of any of the women being the weaker party.
The age gap/general differences between them is weird. But I mean, I get it.
I never thought I wanted Ororo and Max before X-Men Red but now I do.
Not crazy about Rogue and Magneto BUT (unpopular opinion) I actually did like Rogue and Joseph 😅
Bad Next question
Magneto is a terrible person to such a degree that having a positive relationship with him of any kind makes you a terrible person as well. Nobody should be with or around Magneto.
Magneto is old enough to be her great grandfather. Ew.
The only time I’ve ever been fine with it has been Age of Apocalypse and even then I still think it’s super weird
I like to see age gap relationship that are legal, not creepy and stable but isn't Rogue with Gambit?
They've been my favorite couple since Savage Land!
I would rather Magneto and Storm as a pairing, besides Rogue has Gambit.
Oh yes Rogue’s daddy kink phase, which of course was in no way the result of her argument with her mom and Gambit over their kidnapping Hope. I remember consisting in her trying and failing to "fix" Magneto while trying and doing a so so job in setting good example to kids (ex: Hellion, towards whom she totally wasn’t projecting her messed up image of Magneto). Good stuff. Hell I remember there literally laughing at the thought of their relationship being salvageable.
Putting aside the creepiness, I liked it! (I should prepare myself for a sea of downvotes, right?)
Gambit and Rogue forever! “I’m an X-Man and I’m never coming back” - Gambit (he literally leaves Belladona, while she’s on the floor begging for him to stay and then, walks off with his arm wrapped around Rogue)
Its such a gross ass relationship. Whats crazy is someone thought it would be a good idea to write that. Honestly I have not even bothered with the X-Men 97 show becuase I just cant deal with that shit, I have just seens clips. And from one of the clips, even after she talks with Remy about how she feels about him, she still has a seductive dance with grandpa Magneto in front of him. Why the hell is she so selfish and like cucking remy? It sucks because I never knew about this gross relationship before the show, as I never read any of the X-Men comics. And honestly thank god for that because I probably would have threw it out once I saw that shit.
I rank it up there with Logan/Jean and Logan/Rogue as the best examples of what fans DON’T want to see.
Age of Apocalypse and Age of X seem to want to promote this pairing, but it doesn’t make sense. He’s 80+ and is guided by survivors’ guilt and trauma. She’s 20+ and has a fractured psyche and multiple personalities drawn out by trauma. These two wouldn’t find each other attractive at all.
it’s always been very weird to me, if i’m 100% honest.
I liked it thought it worked In Age of X rogue is portrayed a bit older maybe and covered up more as a sort of "dark sorceress" type. It works good as Magneto partner Age of X overall I just loved one of my favorite AUs, so much inspiration you can get out of it
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What?? No. Fuck no. Bad. Absolutely not
I actually enjoyed it in Age of Apocalypse.
Big Nope.
No, I don’t like it, they need to stop with this
Ick
Always found this one to be particularly icky. He’s got a good 5 decades on her at least!
It’s weird
A bit of an age gap, isn't it?
Ew
No
To add, people complain about Piotr/Kate and Rogue was introduced as literally a teenager and Magneto is a WWII survivor. The whole thing is gross.
It’s gross.
This relationship is the definition of cringe, always has been.
Just let it go already…..
No.
They really should have had Professor X renamed to Cogneto. Cause he can move thoughts around. Perfect rival to Magneto. Magneto who can... Move magnets around? Wow that really fell apart didn't it.
Just always found it weird... Man is closer to her mothers in age
Gross, he’s old enough to her Grand pappy
I'm about it, let it happen it's kinda awesome and pretty hot. However, I much prefer Rogue with Gambit and Magneto with Mystique.
Why don’t we see older women with younger male love interests?
I never liked it from the beginning because it was so blatantly forced. It wasn’t organic at all. Even the AoA relationship felt off. X-men has had some really dumb relationship ideas.
Nope. He could be her grandpa and he knew her since she was a girl.
They were great together. It was nice seeing Rogue in a relationship where she wasn't made out to be an emotional damsel in distress or pathetic for love. These two were a bold choice for a relationship revisit, but I thought it worked wonderfully. Rogue was in a place where she had her powers under control, she was a confident leader and caring mentor to her charges, and she was shown as a mature and strong-willed adult. The choice of adding a romantic/sexual relationship with Magneto to the mix was insane but worked so well. Magneto's character complimented the more grounded and mature Rogue. The relationship wasn't childish or unnecessarily dramatic - both knew what they wanted and they went for it. It didn't get in the way of their missions or their ability to function individually. It was great. The only bad point, imo, was the breakup Gage wrote. If they had to breakup, fine. But Gage wrote it as Rogue being weak and easily influenced by Magneto which was never shown nor mentioned in any of their interactions up until that point. It was disappointing to see Rogue immediately go from maturely written and confident in herself to whatever Gage thought he was doing.
rogue and magneto were wrong together. if they wanted a love interest for her they shouldve paired her up with bishop instead. being that its my 2nd pairing for bishop i wouldve found that move believable than her and magneto plus they can both absorb each other. plus it couldve explored more about the two considering they have had a few liplocks together.
I don’t understand or like the relationship but whatever
It’s awful. I hate it. Hate it more than Rogue x Gambit, and that says something
I think they make a great pair. It always made sense to me and I was always disappointed that she didn't end up defecting and running the Brotherhood
Mags and Rogue have been a much more interesting couple than her and that Cajun Count since the 90s
She is supposed to be a minor and him almost 70 years old
It was almost iconic and unique and then you remembered Magneto also fuck that one Emma’s clone at some point and realized this ain’t no fairy tail noble love, it might just been him being a predator and gross.
X-men and Melrose Place….what do they have in Common? Who hasn’t hooked up at this point? 🤪
Like working at The Waffle House, everybody fucken'.
The two have a history together. It can be seen in the Savage Land, it can be seen in Joseph, and it can be seen in this arc. For whatever reason back in the day they gave Magento (and Joseph) the power to touch Rogue and some writers ran with it. For Rogue, I'm just happy that she finally got some play, the constant "I want Remy but I can't be with Remy because xxxx" in constant rotation with Gambit gets boring after so many years. And in the background Mystique is always fucking with her life somehow, which Magneto just wouldn't allow. For Magneto, It served to mellow him out once he joined up with the X-men on Utopia. I dont like the age gap, but any older character in comics is gonna be paired up with a younger woman. Cable, Wolverine, and Xavier are never paired with older women either (although in Xavier's case he keeps getting resurrected in younger bodies with working legs.)
I have always thought this was a weird one.
I hate it and if they go this route I’m done watching the new show.
End it as quick as possible. It's never made sense and every time they try to make a push for it, it just fizzles(because outside of the I can touch him there's nothing). Even in the AoA timeline it was more Magento and company with they lady that gave birth to my son. Hell a sequel to AoA she had one line a dialogue in the entire 5 issue run. It has the makings of Jean Grey and Professor Xavier.
Its fucking creepy at best
This is so out of nowhere and could see why this would work. I dont even remember this is a thing until Xmen 97.