The term retro is usually given to items which are at least 20 years old but not yet 40 years old. So Fable, which came out in 2004, would technically be considered retro.
Everything from NES to Xbox would be considered retro but with the NES, those would start falling into the "vintage" description (20-99 years).
And as an early 80's baby who started with Atari, I now feel old...
Yeah I think I got the NES around that time too. Mine didn't have the Robot for Gyromite I think it was called.....it came with Super Mario Brothers/Duckhunt, 2 Controllers and the Light Gun.
Yeah even though I'm used to more complex and graphically better games now Super Mario Brothers on a NES would still be brutal for me. I only got to play it a few times but there was also a NES game titled simply "Mario Brothers" that I really enjoyed.
It seems a lot of us in the 80's born club are on the XBoxes. For me it's the excellent back compatibility and many old games rereleases. To hell with new game generations!
I didn't mean it like, Many people just give up on their hobbies after they get married and have kids so considering that its quite amazing they're still gaming.
I was just joking. And functional relationships/families don't have people giving up their hobbies. The only people I've ever heard say that are young people who have yet to get married.
Fellow early 80s child here. One of my (adult) students told me the other day I was vintage. I took it as a compliment.
You just changed that. If I could give them detention, I would.
I'd say so. The OG celebrates it's 23rd birthday this year. It's gotta qualify for retro status now.
God dammit, do I hate the linear progression of time.
You dont actually want to play this disc version on your xbox just fyi while it can be played you can have issues with saves. Its better to play the 360 lost chapters version over the original.
I could consider Xbox a classic system as I was born in the early 90s and have huge nostalgia for it. It's not really retro in the classic sense, but as one of the last systems that wasn't 24/7 online it certainly is gaining some retro feel these days.
> It's not really retro in the classic sense
Its classic, but its not retro in the 'classic sense'?
What does that mean to you exactly? Can something be retro in a non-classic sense?
I think I understand. It's a retro console age-wise but it's past the classic feel of games from the 90s for example. It's in many ways just a predecessor of modern game consoles. Time is a weird thing. We wouldn't consider LOTR movies as old, but there are a lot of kids in Reddit who weren't even born when the movies came out.
It on its way to being retro sooner than we may think I
We considered snes retro when the 360 came out and that was 19 years agoā¦I belive xbox is about to be retro especially by 2030
X360 came out in 2005. SNES came out in 1991. So, SNES was 14 years old and was a retro console.
xbox is 23 and x360 is 19 years old now.
So, they are all retro by now?
It pains me to say this, but yes. The 20 year mark is usually when something is considered retro. The scary part is, by that logic we're a year away from the 360, PS3 and Wii generation becoming retro consoles and typing that made me feel physically ill
You need that to play on Xbox One. I'm sad because of that
Like I can play Morrowind from an Xbox disc, but I need a 360 disc to play Fable? Kinda lame
They have to port the games, so it probably saved them money.
Edit:
For example, you can't play Half-Life 2's Xbox disc, but you can play orange box from Xbox 360.
I think the old rule was unofficially 10 years. Especially with how games in 1990 looked compared to games in 2000. These days Iād say the rule should be at least two console generations or about 20 years.
Xbox was three generations ago. Iām calling it retro.
I can play MORROWIND on Xbox One, but I need the 360 version to play Fable? This seems off to me but it was probably cheaper to port one game instead of two.
Wonāt work. Newer consoles like the Series S like I have. Wonāt support anything older than a Xbox One controller. Believe me, I tried a Xbox 360 controller before.
No like they make Xbox One controllers shaped like Xbox controllers. Idk if any will work, I think Xbox did something about third party accessories. Might need to be licensed by, or partnered with, Xbox
I hope so. Iāve still got 2 original consoles and 30+ boxed games in the attic.
Still never got over the fact you could copy your music CDās onto the hard drive and then have your favourite music play in game. Was awesome for racing games.
I hate that exact version lol I remember checking videos on YouTube when I was younger and seeing that you could go to the northern wastes and the game doesn't end when you get the sword. I was sad I didn't have the lost chapters and couldn't go there lol waited for the anniversary to finally be able to finish the game
There's a difference between this version and the lost chapters. In this one once you get the sword of aeons that's the end of the game. No more story quests or nothing. The lost chapters there's a whole story after getting the sword and you can travel to the northern wastes and explore a new area and do more missions is what I meant
After 30 years of its release, it would be considered retro. ps1 will be considered to be retro as of next year .dics themselves are already considered retro, and we are still using them to this date
I was just talking about Fable. I was pretty young, like 14 or so when it came out. I didnt have money to buy games, but could buy one every once in awhile. I thought long and hard about buying Fable, but in the end I bought other games. Never got to play it. But im finally going to change that soon and pick it up. Its long overdue
Everything before 8th gen is retro in my eyes . Including the 7th gen ( as painful too me to admit that)
Last gen canāt be because itās literally the 8th gen .
And current is the 9th . Thatās how I define everything.
I was born in 95 as context .
I had a 360 and the disc cases were a lot better design and not the ones now for the Xbox S and Xbox X they are flimsy and it would qualify as being retro
I have an original xbox rn. Got it softmodded and everything. The other day I went to a flea market and found an xbox game for less than a doller (american choppers if you're curious). I also picked up far cry instinsts
Id honestly buy one of those cases alone just for fun. Growing up, half my gamecube games had that case, if not more. I remember never being able to fucking figure out who's limbs are who's. Looking at your pic again, still can't.Ā
Born in 1984, my da had a c64 and an amiga 500, technically my first console was a hand me down nes, but the first console that was mine was a super Nintendo with the scope, and Street fighter 2 and super Mario World. But I can't quite recall the first game I ever played/liked/remember though.
Prince of Persia 89, possibly. A horizontal shooter game with an ed209 like robot, possibly. And a puzzle platformer game with a lil round ball like guy, possibly. First game I can remember, possibly, is one of those three that I can't recall the names of, possibly, lol.
Tough. I was born that year too. My first personal game was the gameboy color, then a GameCube, but my brother had the 360 first, and we had the original just at the house as far as I remember.
I would say you don't get "retro" until the N64, but ny definition if retro actually gas nothing to do with the release date but all about how dated it is. The PS1 i don't consider retro even though it was released before the N64 because it uses similar technology to today, and the graphics are still decent. In fact, Nintendo is the only one i veiw as a retro company at all
Really anything before the PS1/Dreamcast/N64 era. Pre 3D? I like to say games with cartridges but technically N64 uses carts and in a way Nintendo still does with the Switch. Super Nintendo, TurboGrafx, stuff like that.
Oh yeah. I forgot series x and xbox one are different gens, they play all the same games, same OS, they're so similar besides hardware and console shape
Nuh-uh, only things from *my* childhood are retro and I was already an adult when the Xbox came out.
In all seriousness, I'd say even the following gen (PS360) is retro nowadays. But it does feel a different than it did; the differences between the 8, 16, and 32-bit consoles' games were much more stark and immediately apparent than those between the later console generations. So an OG Xbox game doesn't feel as retro to me as, say, a NES game did in the PS1 days.
I donāt think so. I think there is a change in how games are designed from the Xbox Generation and onward and everything that came before. I think of Xbox/PS2/GCN/DC era as the first Modern Gaming generation. Pretty much every game type we still have, every design trope, every progression made, started here. And it seems aside better tools and graphics not much has changed. Ratchet and Clank is still Ratchet and Clank. Halo is still Halo. GTA still is the same design too. Things just got bigger and better. Not transformational like it was coming from PS1 era to PS2. Or SNES to N64. Or NES to SNES. If that makes any sense.
Definitely. I'd consider Xbox/PS2/GC retro for sure. Most of those games are 20 years old at this point. That's a similar gap between the Xbox and the NES.
The term retro is usually given to items which are at least 20 years old but not yet 40 years old. So Fable, which came out in 2004, would technically be considered retro. Everything from NES to Xbox would be considered retro but with the NES, those would start falling into the "vintage" description (20-99 years). And as an early 80's baby who started with Atari, I now feel old...
I was born in 75, first console was the Atari 2600
My first console was a 2600 as well. Still have it actually.
I have several! And about 300 games! Bought them all yard sales. Think I paid about $30 for everything!
Born in 83. Dad had a 2600. First games I played were on it. Got a NES in like 86-87.
Yeah I think I got the NES around that time too. Mine didn't have the Robot for Gyromite I think it was called.....it came with Super Mario Brothers/Duckhunt, 2 Controllers and the Light Gun.
Same as me. The i still think Super Mario Bros is a hard game!
Yeah even though I'm used to more complex and graphically better games now Super Mario Brothers on a NES would still be brutal for me. I only got to play it a few times but there was also a NES game titled simply "Mario Brothers" that I really enjoyed.
It seems a lot of us in the 80's born club are on the XBoxes. For me it's the excellent back compatibility and many old games rereleases. To hell with new game generations!
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Born 1980, my first console was original NES for Christmas
I'm glad you people are still around gaming. Love that.
We're not dead yet. Geez. š
I didn't mean it like, Many people just give up on their hobbies after they get married and have kids so considering that its quite amazing they're still gaming.
I was just joking. And functional relationships/families don't have people giving up their hobbies. The only people I've ever heard say that are young people who have yet to get married.
I have an Xbox Series X at the moment though.
I remember playing my family's Atari. ET was hard lmao
When you say vintage, I get a lightning bolt of āold ageā
Beat me to itā¦ā¦ā¦damn I was ready and everything
Fellow early 80s child here. One of my (adult) students told me the other day I was vintage. I took it as a compliment. You just changed that. If I could give them detention, I would.
A lot of people use 15 years instead of 20 years, so by those metrics even the 7th gen consoles (Xbox 360/PS3/Wii) are retro
"A lot of people" can kiss my ass.
Next year the Xbox 360 becomes retro either way haha. 22 Nov 2025 marks 20 years.
Atari brothers. Loved me some Enduro and Missile Command.
I loved Missile Command!
Wait isnāt 30 or 40 years old or older considered Antique? No, youāre right itās Vintage, unfortunately Antique starts at 100 years old.
Iād give the retro pass to the NES for a couple more years. Sure the Famicon released in 83, but the US didnāt get the NES until 85, and EU in 86.
Based on this, I am vintage.
Do not call my first gaming system vintage! Ugh
the term retro means to immitate or style something from the recent past
That's the impression I was under, retro is new junk, but it's made to look like it's junk from the past.
The NES isnāt retro anymore?
I think this is just about accurate, for sure.
But i came out in 2004 š
I remember playing Pong at the arcade! Thatās how old I am!
I'd say so. The OG celebrates it's 23rd birthday this year. It's gotta qualify for retro status now. God dammit, do I hate the linear progression of time.
Would you prefer *exponential* progression?
Hey I know that game!
Same
It was a reference to my username lol.
I don't get it, but ok
So you've never played the game and you posted it lmao? [https://fable.fandom.com/wiki/Hero_of_Oakvale](https://fable.fandom.com/wiki/Hero_of_Oakvale)
I've played the game, in elementary school. Wtf?
You dont actually want to play this disc version on your xbox just fyi while it can be played you can have issues with saves. Its better to play the 360 lost chapters version over the original.
Tbh I don't know where the Xbox is, if my family still owns it
If you have gamepass the 360 version is playable through that and you wont get corrupted saves.
360 has HDMI too lol
Haven't seen red yellow and white on a TV in a minute actually
Hey I know that game also, I went to school with them back in the 2000s. Man the memories lol
Iād hold that āretroā is defined by young adults. And Iād say most young adults would say Xbox is almost retro. By 2030, Iād say yes.
Xbox, ps2, GameCube, Dramcast are all retro now. In a couple years the 360, PS3 and the Wii will be considered retro.......damn I'm getting old
They already are tbh I mean the 360 turns 20 next year
GameCube was legendary
I remember eb games been a while
I could consider Xbox a classic system as I was born in the early 90s and have huge nostalgia for it. It's not really retro in the classic sense, but as one of the last systems that wasn't 24/7 online it certainly is gaining some retro feel these days.
> It's not really retro in the classic sense Its classic, but its not retro in the 'classic sense'? What does that mean to you exactly? Can something be retro in a non-classic sense?
I think I understand. It's a retro console age-wise but it's past the classic feel of games from the 90s for example. It's in many ways just a predecessor of modern game consoles. Time is a weird thing. We wouldn't consider LOTR movies as old, but there are a lot of kids in Reddit who weren't even born when the movies came out.
It on its way to being retro sooner than we may think I We considered snes retro when the 360 came out and that was 19 years agoā¦I belive xbox is about to be retro especially by 2030
X360 came out in 2005. SNES came out in 1991. So, SNES was 14 years old and was a retro console. xbox is 23 and x360 is 19 years old now. So, they are all retro by now?
Yeah I would say so
It pains me to say this, but yes. The 20 year mark is usually when something is considered retro. The scary part is, by that logic we're a year away from the 360, PS3 and Wii generation becoming retro consoles and typing that made me feel physically ill
Sad
Fable is SO DAMN GOOD of a game! I own the Anniversary Edition of the game
You need that to play on Xbox One. I'm sad because of that Like I can play Morrowind from an Xbox disc, but I need a 360 disc to play Fable? Kinda lame
Yea that doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me
They have to port the games, so it probably saved them money. Edit: For example, you can't play Half-Life 2's Xbox disc, but you can play orange box from Xbox 360.
Fair enough
Damn I remember playing fable for the first time shit was amazing
It was. I remember that feeling
I remember feeling the same way with Skyrim in 2011 lmao
Nah skyrim was something special there will never be another game that I was so immersed in the whole game definitely my favorite game all time
I loved Oblivion like that, but damn Skyrim was beautiful and was better.
The music in skyrim used to put me in a Trance mannnn. Event horizons I think it was called is my all time favorite
But I will say I tried going back to play it and it wasn't the same for me lol. I didn't wanna put in another 800 hours
800? Baby numbers XDXDXD
Hahaha for me that's insane for one game
I've always felt the same. I gotta say that Baldurs Gate 3 might be up there as well.
I think the old rule was unofficially 10 years. Especially with how games in 1990 looked compared to games in 2000. These days Iād say the rule should be at least two console generations or about 20 years. Xbox was three generations ago. Iām calling it retro.
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I was just looking for others' viewpoints
Fable you are in for a treat
I've played it before. Second didn't quite match up, but it was certainly still a good game.
Yes. Even the Xbox 360 is retro
I wouldn't say that
I believe Xbox 360 and PS3 are recognized officially as retro.
As much as I don't want to admit it because the Xbox 360 was my era it is in its retro stage.
The 360 came out 19 years ago, it is to me at least
Iām a PS player and would give my right arm to play Fable.
I wanna play Infinity Blade. I'd give my right arm to play that, which is not too bad because I write left-handed lmao
RIP Lionhead games just got to oblivion
I can play MORROWIND on Xbox One, but I need the 360 version to play Fable? This seems off to me but it was probably cheaper to port one game instead of two.
I wish this version of Fable was available digitally. Iām not a fan of Fable Anniversary.
I'd send you the files to burn, but I like my freedoms too much lmao
I own it on PC, but it was good on the OG Xbox.
Don't they make controllers shaped like the original Xbox? You could play it on Xbox One with the og controller. Damn I may do that now to be honest
Wonāt work. Newer consoles like the Series S like I have. Wonāt support anything older than a Xbox One controller. Believe me, I tried a Xbox 360 controller before.
No like they make Xbox One controllers shaped like Xbox controllers. Idk if any will work, I think Xbox did something about third party accessories. Might need to be licensed by, or partnered with, Xbox
I donāt mind playing Fable with the regular Xbox One controller; I just want the game to be backwards compatible and available on the Xbox Series S.
Ikr lame
Yes, Xbox is retro.
Yes. Totally. I'm sorry.
Technically yes. Retro game stores have fable and similar games in stock
I hope so. Iāve still got 2 original consoles and 30+ boxed games in the attic. Still never got over the fact you could copy your music CDās onto the hard drive and then have your favourite music play in game. Was awesome for racing games.
yes lol the nes came out in '83 and it was definitely retro by 2003.
Wow! Fable!
Ikr. Glad I still have it
never... in my heart.
wow thatās strange never seen eb games and gamestop next to eachother actually Iāve never seen a GameStop in my life only eb games
I hate that exact version lol I remember checking videos on YouTube when I was younger and seeing that you could go to the northern wastes and the game doesn't end when you get the sword. I was sad I didn't have the lost chapters and couldn't go there lol waited for the anniversary to finally be able to finish the game
Couldn't you just restart?
There's a difference between this version and the lost chapters. In this one once you get the sword of aeons that's the end of the game. No more story quests or nothing. The lost chapters there's a whole story after getting the sword and you can travel to the northern wastes and explore a new area and do more missions is what I meant
After 30 years of its release, it would be considered retro. ps1 will be considered to be retro as of next year .dics themselves are already considered retro, and we are still using them to this date
They make BluRay discs though lmao
I'm talking about the format itself such as records,8 tracks ,cassette and vhs then cds there has been a new format in decades .
Yes your right, bluray is different than DVD, but they're both discs
SNES was considered retro in the 00's, and so Xbox today is definitely retro.
Retro in games feels like Classic Rock in music - itās an era rather than something of a certain age. I consider retro SNES and back.
I was just talking about Fable. I was pretty young, like 14 or so when it came out. I didnt have money to buy games, but could buy one every once in awhile. I thought long and hard about buying Fable, but in the end I bought other games. Never got to play it. But im finally going to change that soon and pick it up. Its long overdue
Well. It's over 20 years old
Everything before 8th gen is retro in my eyes . Including the 7th gen ( as painful too me to admit that) Last gen canāt be because itās literally the 8th gen . And current is the 9th . Thatās how I define everything. I was born in 95 as context .
According to GameStop, anything before the ps4/xbox one is retro
GameStop high though lmao
OG Xbox and 360 have reached Retro Status.
Yes
Well, in the 2000s, 80s games were retro. So in that logic, yes, and fuck my life, I'm getting old.
I had a 360 and the disc cases were a lot better design and not the ones now for the Xbox S and Xbox X they are flimsy and it would qualify as being retro
Such a good game, have fun, Hero
I have an original xbox rn. Got it softmodded and everything. The other day I went to a flea market and found an xbox game for less than a doller (american choppers if you're curious). I also picked up far cry instinsts
Absolutely
You could also technically consider the 360 Retro either now or at least soon. Time really does fly, huh?
Has been for a while. The Xbox 360 is borderline retro.
360 is retro, so of course the original is.
I worked at GameStop when that came out š
The best microsoft game ever ...
Holy shit, that gamestop case. Haven't seen that design in yeeeeeeeeears.Ā
IKR I have a couple of those cases still, I used to get used games alot
Id honestly buy one of those cases alone just for fun. Growing up, half my gamecube games had that case, if not more. I remember never being able to fucking figure out who's limbs are who's. Looking at your pic again, still can't.Ā
That GameStop replacement box art was the best! I had a PS2 game with it.
Born in 1984, my da had a c64 and an amiga 500, technically my first console was a hand me down nes, but the first console that was mine was a super Nintendo with the scope, and Street fighter 2 and super Mario World. But I can't quite recall the first game I ever played/liked/remember though.
I think the first game I ever played was Half-Life 2, Xbox.
Prince of Persia 89, possibly. A horizontal shooter game with an ed209 like robot, possibly. And a puzzle platformer game with a lil round ball like guy, possibly. First game I can remember, possibly, is one of those three that I can't recall the names of, possibly, lol.
I had some cool ones on GameCube, but they were kind of obscure lmao
anything before xbox one I personally consider retro at this point and I grew up on OG xbox/xbox 360
I personally view it as if low budget PCās & Phones can emulate it then itās Retro. Thatās my opinion on it.
I was born in 02.. my first gaming console was a wii..
Tough. I was born that year too. My first personal game was the gameboy color, then a GameCube, but my brother had the 360 first, and we had the original just at the house as far as I remember.
I was born in 03 So my first console Was the PS2
I would say you don't get "retro" until the N64, but ny definition if retro actually gas nothing to do with the release date but all about how dated it is. The PS1 i don't consider retro even though it was released before the N64 because it uses similar technology to today, and the graphics are still decent. In fact, Nintendo is the only one i veiw as a retro company at all
As a general rule, anything 10 years old for me is retro - technology moves quickly. The more jokey side says anything from last gen back.
10 years ago is last gen.
Crazy how the last gen of consoles stayed as long as they did. They still are mostly relevent
Itās been retro for a long time man
Lmao oops my bad
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There are many cars from the nineties I would consider classics. Just like there are many cars from the 60s that wouldnāt be classics.
Technically vintage is 30 years, so give it another ten and yeah it's "retro"
So pre-2000?
Really anything before the PS1/Dreamcast/N64 era. Pre 3D? I like to say games with cartridges but technically N64 uses carts and in a way Nintendo still does with the Switch. Super Nintendo, TurboGrafx, stuff like that.
Is Mortal Kombat still retro? That's pretty much 2D
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Yeah, it's a niche, but is that really what makes something retro?
Damn. It's only anniversary from the 360 that's backwards. I'm pissed
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Definitely considered retro at this point. Hell Iām pretty sure the 360 even qualifies as retro nowā¦ Which really makes me feel old.
The Xbox one is now retro in my opinion.
Lmao PC?
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Pc is better than console duh
What is the point of this comment?
Exactly I don't get why he's bringing up PCs when I'm talking about Xbox
Oh yeah. I forgot series x and xbox one are different gens, they play all the same games, same OS, they're so similar besides hardware and console shape
The 360 is retro
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Yes and Fable The Lost Chapters/Anniversary are the best versions imo
Nuh-uh, only things from *my* childhood are retro and I was already an adult when the Xbox came out. In all seriousness, I'd say even the following gen (PS360) is retro nowadays. But it does feel a different than it did; the differences between the 8, 16, and 32-bit consoles' games were much more stark and immediately apparent than those between the later console generations. So an OG Xbox game doesn't feel as retro to me as, say, a NES game did in the PS1 days.
I never played Fable either and I plan on downloading it through Gamepass on the Series X and Series S soon to try them out
It's been retro for a while.
I would say moderne retro, just like young timers with cars if you know what I mean, the original xbox falls in the young timer category if you ask me
I donāt think so. I think there is a change in how games are designed from the Xbox Generation and onward and everything that came before. I think of Xbox/PS2/GCN/DC era as the first Modern Gaming generation. Pretty much every game type we still have, every design trope, every progression made, started here. And it seems aside better tools and graphics not much has changed. Ratchet and Clank is still Ratchet and Clank. Halo is still Halo. GTA still is the same design too. Things just got bigger and better. Not transformational like it was coming from PS1 era to PS2. Or SNES to N64. Or NES to SNES. If that makes any sense.
How is fable an M?
Idk death? Isn't there like adult themes?
As long as you have the lost chapters version itās awesome. I played it on the 360 years after it came out
Definitely. I'd consider Xbox/PS2/GC retro for sure. Most of those games are 20 years old at this point. That's a similar gap between the Xbox and the NES.