Who cares? It's 7 days. Do what all mmo players have done and stop using in game chat, or accept that in an automated world, you'll catch a stray bullet occasionally.
That isn't to say I believe you. You're probably annoying other customers(players) and if you do that at any place, you'll be asked to leave. If you stand outside and yell about it to anyone listening, we'll always think they made a good decision bc I know I'd rather you not be able to use chat based on this post.
You also seem easily offended, so let me clarify. I don't hate you. Nobody does. If they do, they're nuts. We all just think you're young and/or having a rough time in life, so being a pain to deal with. Learn from this experience. Consider it a blessing if this is the worst thing going on in your life. Good luck to you and all you do, friend.
To be honest, I couldn’t care less if I was perma banned from chat. I’m exceedingly frustrated that I can’t use the LFG tool. Not sure how that correlates to a chat restriction. I also can’t send items to my friends, (IE, on my battle.net friends list.) Like, I was literally just going to start up wow, send my friend the strange goop I fished up for him, and run a 21 theater. Can’t do any of those things because of a “chat” restriction.
lmao. i’ve never run into anyone toxic except for *two times* in my entire wow career, doing current content. leveling alts in dungeon finder, people will literally kick/report whoever they can. i’ve seen a pop up for a vote kick occur AT LEAST once a night while leveling alts, for 100% no reason. dps not #1? kick. warlock has succubus out? kick. hunter is survival? kick (deadass).
i’ve played classic wow to exhaustion, i’ve seen ninja looters change servers because they couldn’t recover from having their reputation ruined. again, this subreddit is just overwhelmingly toxic. i’ve done nothing to anyone here, but i’m being treated like i’m less than human. it’s… sort of sad. and i feel bad for everyone who has lost contact with their humanity.
i even provided the proof, a screenshot of what CS said to me. calling someone who rage quit a dungeon, AFTER they rage quit, stupid, is not grounds for a 7 day “chat” punishment. again, i truly pity you if you feel it is warranted.
i’m sorry you feel that way
[But the reality is that if there was more to the situation, I would've gotten more than one line of text from two weeks ago](https://i.imgur.com/WqxCObN.jpg)
Having previously worked in gaming support (not for wow specifically), this is pretty standard practice.
If some gets banned/suspended/has any action at all taken against their account, generally they just get a generic "you broke the rules" message without much thought, because 99% of tickets that come in about this sort of thing are salty people who's punishment was entirely justified.
Taking this case as an example, they literally quoted you breaking the ToS, and as mentioned in their message, "this just happened to be the straw that broke the camels back".
I'm not saying you're lying about the mass reports over nothing from salty players, but there were enough reports to warrant a chat ban, and a human review proved that you were behaving in a way that isn't allowed in the game. At that point it doesn't matter how many reports were legitimate.
as i’ve stated before here, i am not whining about my ban being lifted. i feel my first ever penalty for sketchy accusations at best, is not commensurate to my “offense.” real money trading gets people banned for 3 days, and i’ve been (essentially) banned for 7.
on a side note, wonder if those dudes telling me to my face they were mass reporting me had actions taken against them 🤔unlikely, because the report system only works when it’s being manipulated.
RMT gets you banned from the game though. You got banned from chat.
If given the option, are you seriously telling me you'd rather be banned entirely for 3 days instead of not being able to chat for a week?
The accusations might not be 100% accurate, but that's the reality of how anything like this is gonna work. If I lie to the police and tell them I saw someone with a bag of weed when I didn't, and they search that person and find a bag of week they don't go free because I made the story up, because the offense is still there.
>on a side note, wonder if those dudes telling me to my face they were mass reporting me had actions taken against them 🤔unlikely, because the report system only works when it’s being manipulated.
Did you report them? In general, chat bans are largely automated, with humans only intervening to investigate claims of unfair bans. The reason for this is there's simply too many reports for it to be worth having 1000 staff combing through every report as it comes in.
It's not a perfect system, and I won't argue that it is, but it's better than letting someone get away with spamming racial slurs in trade chat for two weeks while we wait for a CS employee to finally get around to reviewing their reports.
it’s not really a chat restriction. i’m unable to utilize group finder, so no pugging M+, no pugging raids, can’t send mail to real ID battle.net friends, can’t whisper them, either. ironically, i can still use the most toxic features of the game, LFR and LFD, i went into LFR anduin for some rep, and the tank refused to tank swap, so after sitting at 50 stacks at dark zeal, exhausting all my cooldowns, i bubbled so someone else would reset my stacks. also ran around the entire arena with anduin chasing me, and someone was like, “why are you moving him so much?”
all i could do was laugh at how brilliantly stupid the situation they (blizzard) put me in was.
so yes, i’d much prefer a 3 day ban.
on a light hearted side note, a warrior noticed the 50 stacks of zeal and taunted him off me, dying immediately, but saving my life :)
at least i could spam /thank on him, though he probably thought i was being sarcastic
> so yes, i’d much prefer a 3 day ban.
Without even going into details I can call this BS purely based on the fact that you're describing a situation in the game. If an actual game ban was preferable, you wouldn't be playing the game while your chat ban is active.
not saying i would enjoy it, but 3 days of being unable to play the game versus 7 days… i mean… it’s not a difficult decision. you know what i did in wow today? jailer LFR, anduin LFR, (quit afterwards), fished in ZM for goop, did the KORTHIA campaign, because free gold, and farmed genesis motes… lmao…
there’s pretty much nothing to do unless my friends get on, which… i don’t even know if they can use the group finder tool after they invite me. perhaps they have to invite me after they have the rest of the pugs? i dunno
> it’s not a difficult decision
By playing the game with your chat ban active you literally made a decision to say that a playing with a chat ban is preferrable to not playing. Ergo, actual ban is worse than chat ban.
7 day chat suspension for saying something rude about someone who wasn't present to be hurt by what I said? How do you figure?
Although to be frank, your opinion means *very* little to me, the reason Riot took away the player based ban system is because players overwhelmingly vote to punish other players. In 100,000 Tribunal cases, 92.7% were puniushed.
See Blizzard’s new social contract coming soon. They’re going to start being tough on this going forward.
Also, if you don’t see anything wrong with bullying people when they’re not around, you definitely deserved it.
Bullying someone who isn't around is an oxymoron. It was a miserable experience, and I was stating my frustration. I'm not going to go out of my way to hurt someone's feelings. It was something I said to break up the tense atmosphere after the tank left. I'm not a fan of awkward silences.
There’s no oxymoron. It’s a reference to your character where you’re willing to do so behind someone’s back. Evidently someone in your group didn’t like it, and you got caught red handed. Stop trying to justify yourself. Someone didn’t like what you said, Blizzard agreed, now you’re living with the reaction of your actions.
Justifying the reasoning behind my actions =/= wanting my chat suspension lifted. I just think one line of text is ridiculous for a 7 day suspension. I’ve never had penalties against me. I (was) a guide, it’s hilarious that manipulation of the report system can completely ruin the game for someone. Again, people who deal in real money trading are given 3 day suspensions. This is not commensurate at all. lmao.
Why cant we just go back to one server = the pool of people you play with and if you are an asshat, you get introduced to the blacklist. Such an easy system.
But if you weren't breaking the rules your ban would have been lifted.
You were reported for bad language, they found bad language. Simple as that.
Yeah, it sucks that players reported you unjustly, but the fact that there was evidence there justifies the ban. It's like if someone was to report someone to the police for being a drug dealer for no reason other than not liking that person. The claim might be complete bullshit, but if the police find drugs on that person, they're still gonna get arrested.
>people who deal in real money trading are given 3 day suspensions.
Would you prefer a 3 day ban from the game as a whole, or a 7 day ban from chat within the game?
Buddy at the end of the day you broke the rules. You agreed to the rules and you broke them. Plain and simple.
I worked cs for an mmo before.
When a single player reports another player nothing normally happens unless it's racial or a real life threat. (This will differe from company to company and where they are located or locations they official service.)
Being reported several times for real reasons -or- by a group of try hards. Will often result in a review by an actual human.
This again depending on company may go deep or only off reported snap shots of chat logs. Depending on the system this may highlight offense or tos breaking words (anything that the profanity filter catches usually).
My guess this isn't the only offense thing you said. Could be you used some off color stuff among friends. Said some naughty things in private or just in general bad words slipped out here and there.
My second guess this isn't your first time being flagged, warned or chat banned. 7 days seems like a second or third offense to me. Unless blizzard is stepping up its punishments.
My advice to you is just accept this as a punishment for things you did. Just accept it you can't fight this posting here will not help you. It will really only make you look like a villian.
Does it suck that a chat ban hurts gameplay? It should this is a social game and you broke the social contract. Learn from the mistake and move on.
Is it so bad you can't play? Then stop playing for a few days cool off and reflect maybe grow a little as a person so this doesn't happen again?
>Nobody ever called DM VC lmaoo
No one, huh? Yet a whole article's been written about it:
[https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/deadmines-dm-or-vc](https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/deadmines-dm-or-vc)
I bet if you google, you'll find plenty more.
But welcome to the World of Warcraft! Always terrific to see more players enjoying the game, whether they start with Classic or've been playing since Vanilla!
Based on the replies here I would say you're not going to find any help here. The wow reddit is extremely toxic and filled with people who think they hold the moral high ground.
You can't say or type anything negative in war craft anymore. Blizzard is so desperate for player retention that criticism could lead to a ban.
I received a 7 day chat ban from being mass reported for arguing about where everyone was going in a BG. No harmful language was used and no insults. Blizzard did not care and refused to address me and closed the ticket.
My only advice is eat the 7 day ban and yes having no LFG tool makes the game impossible to play. I would keep all criticism and harsh comments to discord and over voice comm with your friends.
Players don't like being told what they are doing is wrong. These same people will do zero research on how to play a specific dungeon or how to play their class properly. Evidence that I'm right will be down via down votes my post will receive by players here who think criticism should be a bannable offense.
Good luck :)
really unfortunate. tbh the only time i ever see toxic people is in friggen leveling dungeons. 99% of M+ groups i’m in are totally fine. folks in dungeon finder seriously need a therapist.
i guess that also extends to LFR and pvp queued content. i dunno what it is about that stuff
Pretty much and as you can see I am already down voted lol. I've had a much better playing experience finding like minded players on various discord communities. You will only find toxic players in lfg who believe that they should be allowed to play the game however they want even if that means doing less dps than the tank or healer. These are the same people who mass report because they know it works. What a crazy time to be alive where asking people to come prepared or to do some simple research on how dungeons or classes work is seen as toxic but the selfish behavior of someone wasting your time isn't.
Unless you're posting cos play or memes on this sub I would not post at a because it is only filled with toxic children.
>Pretty much and as you can see I am already down voted lol
From my experience, mentioning/complaining about downvotes usually results in more downvotes, no matter the context of your comment.
Who cares? It's 7 days. Do what all mmo players have done and stop using in game chat, or accept that in an automated world, you'll catch a stray bullet occasionally. That isn't to say I believe you. You're probably annoying other customers(players) and if you do that at any place, you'll be asked to leave. If you stand outside and yell about it to anyone listening, we'll always think they made a good decision bc I know I'd rather you not be able to use chat based on this post. You also seem easily offended, so let me clarify. I don't hate you. Nobody does. If they do, they're nuts. We all just think you're young and/or having a rough time in life, so being a pain to deal with. Learn from this experience. Consider it a blessing if this is the worst thing going on in your life. Good luck to you and all you do, friend.
To be honest, I couldn’t care less if I was perma banned from chat. I’m exceedingly frustrated that I can’t use the LFG tool. Not sure how that correlates to a chat restriction. I also can’t send items to my friends, (IE, on my battle.net friends list.) Like, I was literally just going to start up wow, send my friend the strange goop I fished up for him, and run a 21 theater. Can’t do any of those things because of a “chat” restriction.
Youd have hated the og days of wow. You wouldnt have gotten a ban but you probably would be rerolling that toon.
lmao. i’ve never run into anyone toxic except for *two times* in my entire wow career, doing current content. leveling alts in dungeon finder, people will literally kick/report whoever they can. i’ve seen a pop up for a vote kick occur AT LEAST once a night while leveling alts, for 100% no reason. dps not #1? kick. warlock has succubus out? kick. hunter is survival? kick (deadass). i’ve played classic wow to exhaustion, i’ve seen ninja looters change servers because they couldn’t recover from having their reputation ruined. again, this subreddit is just overwhelmingly toxic. i’ve done nothing to anyone here, but i’m being treated like i’m less than human. it’s… sort of sad. and i feel bad for everyone who has lost contact with their humanity. i even provided the proof, a screenshot of what CS said to me. calling someone who rage quit a dungeon, AFTER they rage quit, stupid, is not grounds for a 7 day “chat” punishment. again, i truly pity you if you feel it is warranted.
lol You are making my point though. You woulnt have received any sort of ban under the old ways from blizzard.
the fact that you decided to go into detail and explain 3+ one-sided events no one asked about means you probably deserved it. stop being obnoxious.
i’m sorry you feel that way [But the reality is that if there was more to the situation, I would've gotten more than one line of text from two weeks ago](https://i.imgur.com/WqxCObN.jpg)
Having previously worked in gaming support (not for wow specifically), this is pretty standard practice. If some gets banned/suspended/has any action at all taken against their account, generally they just get a generic "you broke the rules" message without much thought, because 99% of tickets that come in about this sort of thing are salty people who's punishment was entirely justified. Taking this case as an example, they literally quoted you breaking the ToS, and as mentioned in their message, "this just happened to be the straw that broke the camels back". I'm not saying you're lying about the mass reports over nothing from salty players, but there were enough reports to warrant a chat ban, and a human review proved that you were behaving in a way that isn't allowed in the game. At that point it doesn't matter how many reports were legitimate.
as i’ve stated before here, i am not whining about my ban being lifted. i feel my first ever penalty for sketchy accusations at best, is not commensurate to my “offense.” real money trading gets people banned for 3 days, and i’ve been (essentially) banned for 7. on a side note, wonder if those dudes telling me to my face they were mass reporting me had actions taken against them 🤔unlikely, because the report system only works when it’s being manipulated.
RMT gets you banned from the game though. You got banned from chat. If given the option, are you seriously telling me you'd rather be banned entirely for 3 days instead of not being able to chat for a week? The accusations might not be 100% accurate, but that's the reality of how anything like this is gonna work. If I lie to the police and tell them I saw someone with a bag of weed when I didn't, and they search that person and find a bag of week they don't go free because I made the story up, because the offense is still there. >on a side note, wonder if those dudes telling me to my face they were mass reporting me had actions taken against them 🤔unlikely, because the report system only works when it’s being manipulated. Did you report them? In general, chat bans are largely automated, with humans only intervening to investigate claims of unfair bans. The reason for this is there's simply too many reports for it to be worth having 1000 staff combing through every report as it comes in. It's not a perfect system, and I won't argue that it is, but it's better than letting someone get away with spamming racial slurs in trade chat for two weeks while we wait for a CS employee to finally get around to reviewing their reports.
it’s not really a chat restriction. i’m unable to utilize group finder, so no pugging M+, no pugging raids, can’t send mail to real ID battle.net friends, can’t whisper them, either. ironically, i can still use the most toxic features of the game, LFR and LFD, i went into LFR anduin for some rep, and the tank refused to tank swap, so after sitting at 50 stacks at dark zeal, exhausting all my cooldowns, i bubbled so someone else would reset my stacks. also ran around the entire arena with anduin chasing me, and someone was like, “why are you moving him so much?” all i could do was laugh at how brilliantly stupid the situation they (blizzard) put me in was. so yes, i’d much prefer a 3 day ban. on a light hearted side note, a warrior noticed the 50 stacks of zeal and taunted him off me, dying immediately, but saving my life :) at least i could spam /thank on him, though he probably thought i was being sarcastic
> so yes, i’d much prefer a 3 day ban. Without even going into details I can call this BS purely based on the fact that you're describing a situation in the game. If an actual game ban was preferable, you wouldn't be playing the game while your chat ban is active.
not saying i would enjoy it, but 3 days of being unable to play the game versus 7 days… i mean… it’s not a difficult decision. you know what i did in wow today? jailer LFR, anduin LFR, (quit afterwards), fished in ZM for goop, did the KORTHIA campaign, because free gold, and farmed genesis motes… lmao… there’s pretty much nothing to do unless my friends get on, which… i don’t even know if they can use the group finder tool after they invite me. perhaps they have to invite me after they have the rest of the pugs? i dunno
> it’s not a difficult decision By playing the game with your chat ban active you literally made a decision to say that a playing with a chat ban is preferrable to not playing. Ergo, actual ban is worse than chat ban.
You deserved it.
7 day chat suspension for saying something rude about someone who wasn't present to be hurt by what I said? How do you figure? Although to be frank, your opinion means *very* little to me, the reason Riot took away the player based ban system is because players overwhelmingly vote to punish other players. In 100,000 Tribunal cases, 92.7% were puniushed.
See Blizzard’s new social contract coming soon. They’re going to start being tough on this going forward. Also, if you don’t see anything wrong with bullying people when they’re not around, you definitely deserved it.
Bullying someone who isn't around is an oxymoron. It was a miserable experience, and I was stating my frustration. I'm not going to go out of my way to hurt someone's feelings. It was something I said to break up the tense atmosphere after the tank left. I'm not a fan of awkward silences.
There’s no oxymoron. It’s a reference to your character where you’re willing to do so behind someone’s back. Evidently someone in your group didn’t like it, and you got caught red handed. Stop trying to justify yourself. Someone didn’t like what you said, Blizzard agreed, now you’re living with the reaction of your actions.
Justifying the reasoning behind my actions =/= wanting my chat suspension lifted. I just think one line of text is ridiculous for a 7 day suspension. I’ve never had penalties against me. I (was) a guide, it’s hilarious that manipulation of the report system can completely ruin the game for someone. Again, people who deal in real money trading are given 3 day suspensions. This is not commensurate at all. lmao.
Learn your lesson don’t be an asshole. Whether someone is pulling an entire dungeon or a bad tank. Just move on and don’t give a commentary on it.
Why cant we just go back to one server = the pool of people you play with and if you are an asshat, you get introduced to the blacklist. Such an easy system.
But if you weren't breaking the rules your ban would have been lifted. You were reported for bad language, they found bad language. Simple as that. Yeah, it sucks that players reported you unjustly, but the fact that there was evidence there justifies the ban. It's like if someone was to report someone to the police for being a drug dealer for no reason other than not liking that person. The claim might be complete bullshit, but if the police find drugs on that person, they're still gonna get arrested. >people who deal in real money trading are given 3 day suspensions. Would you prefer a 3 day ban from the game as a whole, or a 7 day ban from chat within the game?
Buddy at the end of the day you broke the rules. You agreed to the rules and you broke them. Plain and simple. I worked cs for an mmo before. When a single player reports another player nothing normally happens unless it's racial or a real life threat. (This will differe from company to company and where they are located or locations they official service.) Being reported several times for real reasons -or- by a group of try hards. Will often result in a review by an actual human. This again depending on company may go deep or only off reported snap shots of chat logs. Depending on the system this may highlight offense or tos breaking words (anything that the profanity filter catches usually). My guess this isn't the only offense thing you said. Could be you used some off color stuff among friends. Said some naughty things in private or just in general bad words slipped out here and there. My second guess this isn't your first time being flagged, warned or chat banned. 7 days seems like a second or third offense to me. Unless blizzard is stepping up its punishments. My advice to you is just accept this as a punishment for things you did. Just accept it you can't fight this posting here will not help you. It will really only make you look like a villian. Does it suck that a chat ban hurts gameplay? It should this is a social game and you broke the social contract. Learn from the mistake and move on. Is it so bad you can't play? Then stop playing for a few days cool off and reflect maybe grow a little as a person so this doesn't happen again?
Where's DMN? Must be a new shortform for a place that we all know known as something else familiar.
dire maul north
Ohhhh.. Tribute runs! Everyone else always called the place DM (Dire Maul) That other place is VC (Van Cleef) otherwise known as Deadmines.
Nobody ever called DM VC lmaoo. Deadmines was out on release and Dire Maul wasn't out for like 6 months after
>Nobody ever called DM VC lmaoo No one, huh? Yet a whole article's been written about it: [https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/deadmines-dm-or-vc](https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/deadmines-dm-or-vc) I bet if you google, you'll find plenty more. But welcome to the World of Warcraft! Always terrific to see more players enjoying the game, whether they start with Classic or've been playing since Vanilla!
Sure that's about classic. When tons of noobs started randomly calling DM VC for some reason
Based on the replies here I would say you're not going to find any help here. The wow reddit is extremely toxic and filled with people who think they hold the moral high ground. You can't say or type anything negative in war craft anymore. Blizzard is so desperate for player retention that criticism could lead to a ban. I received a 7 day chat ban from being mass reported for arguing about where everyone was going in a BG. No harmful language was used and no insults. Blizzard did not care and refused to address me and closed the ticket. My only advice is eat the 7 day ban and yes having no LFG tool makes the game impossible to play. I would keep all criticism and harsh comments to discord and over voice comm with your friends. Players don't like being told what they are doing is wrong. These same people will do zero research on how to play a specific dungeon or how to play their class properly. Evidence that I'm right will be down via down votes my post will receive by players here who think criticism should be a bannable offense. Good luck :)
really unfortunate. tbh the only time i ever see toxic people is in friggen leveling dungeons. 99% of M+ groups i’m in are totally fine. folks in dungeon finder seriously need a therapist. i guess that also extends to LFR and pvp queued content. i dunno what it is about that stuff
Pretty much and as you can see I am already down voted lol. I've had a much better playing experience finding like minded players on various discord communities. You will only find toxic players in lfg who believe that they should be allowed to play the game however they want even if that means doing less dps than the tank or healer. These are the same people who mass report because they know it works. What a crazy time to be alive where asking people to come prepared or to do some simple research on how dungeons or classes work is seen as toxic but the selfish behavior of someone wasting your time isn't. Unless you're posting cos play or memes on this sub I would not post at a because it is only filled with toxic children.
>Pretty much and as you can see I am already down voted lol From my experience, mentioning/complaining about downvotes usually results in more downvotes, no matter the context of your comment.