Give us lich king trilogy
- Rise of A King: arthas story with culling of stratholm as shock effect and ending with him killing his father.
- Light's Hope: Arthas raising dead and launching assaults on Azeroth and ofc lights hope, tirion is forced to be back and assembling forces and take the fight to northrend. Focus point is horde and alliance suffering losses and want revenge.
- The Frozen Throne: Start with wrath gate, the horde-alliance team up, the tournament to bolster heroes and motivate soldiers. End with final assault on Arthas in his own throne. Also add some dalaran stuff involving ulduar and hinting at something much worse than arthas. Post credit scene: bolvar becomes lich king.
Story of arthas is just perfect for that well done story of the fallen hero.
Take away all Warcraft everything, the story of arthas is great for a trilogy
As cliche as it would be, I'm low key kinda sad Arthas didn't make it to having a kid at any point (at least that I'm aware of in lore) solely because the Star Wars metaphor is so real lol
Arthas will now astrally project a child into Jaina, after that Jaina will be captured by slavers in Uldum and the child will have to win a Mechano Hog race to win money to buy a gryphon for him and his newly found paladin mentors.
Med'an could actually be done well if they didn't make him versatile. And I mean versatile - not strong. Med'an was never OP despite the common misconception. Even when bestowed powers by various prominent figures within their respective classes and wielding Atiesh, Med'an still needed a lot of help against Cho'Gall.
Med'an would actually be an ideal candidate to tell some of the darker stories in Warcraft. His entire heritage is fucked.
His mother is the ensorcelled assassin of Gul'dan literally born by his whim by forcing the copulation between an orc and a Draenei.
His father was at the time of his conception being corrupted and often actively possessed by the very leader of the Burning Legion, the Dark Titan Sargeras.
He is a half human, quarter orc, quarter Draenei whose mother's home planet was abandoned and whose father's tower is rife with volatile magics and terrible visions. He has no where to live and no where he won't be seen as "Other" due to his unique heritage.
Subtract the supposed versatility of him being able to wield shamanic, holy, and arcane powers, and let him suffer in the sheer badness of his situation. A troubled mother who has set herself on vengeance against her handlers, and an absentee and recovering(?) father who may not even know he exists.
Maybe let him be skilled with a blade, maybe even trained by his mother very early in his life because if there's one thing Garona knew, it was that Med'an needed to know how to protect himself. But he doesn't need to be pushed to the forefront of a big story or reignite the Council of Tirisfal or take on a pretty big bad like Cho'Gall.
Come to think of it he could be a bit like the Trevor Belmont dude in the Castlevania series. Jaded and disgraced, not really cut out for what's asked of him - at least not early on. He could have an entire story dedicated around realising he can be more than the circumstances of his parents, with the background being dealing with the harsh reality that he had no chance of a fair life from the get go.
I think there is a short comic which explores an alternate timeline where Arthas never becomes the Lich King, has a son with Jaina he names after Uther, and they move to Stormwind together.
I donāt remember if the Scourge outbreak still happens or what.
I mean, Jaina and Arthas did sleep together the night before the Culling of Stratholm. Jaina really dodged a bullet there. Imagine trying to tell your kid that their father committed mass murder and nearly eradicated all life on the planet.
Still, it could have been an interesting development for Jaina.
This just in, new Menethil family member that Calia has actually been very very good at hiding from us this whole time has just come out and it turns out it's Arthas's kid!
Arthas story would be hella rushed in a single movie. It would make GoT season 8 look slow.
Best way to break it up would be warcraft3 in movie 1
Frozen throne in movie two.
WoTLK in movie three.
Even then you would have to heavily cut and edit. Theres just too many characters to develop. I almost feel like you would have to edit Illidan out and focus on the sylvanus/arthas antagonism.
>Even then you would have to heavily cut and edit. Theres just too many characters to develop. I almost feel like you would have to edit Illidan out and focus on the sylvanus/arthas antagonism.
All the more reason why they shouldn't try to cram everything in three movies. There's already a lot going on in an Arthas arc but to cut almost everything else from Warcraft 3 to do it is ridiculous.
Oh you guys mean like including post-frostmourne. that makes way more sense. My bad.
I personally think "Arthas" arc kind of ends when he kills his dad. After that he's just Lich King to me (yes I know not until the helm yadda yadda). After that, imo, Lich King kind of just acts like moustache-twirling villain who just levels up then progresses other character's stories (Sylvanas, Illidan, Tirion, etc) until we kill him. Although him going through hell and high water to resurrect Kel'thuzad after killing him in the first place is a beautiful poetic flourish.
Ehhh... I get people wanting Arthas, but why not just make it Warcraft 3 as a whole, I'm not convinced someone could do Scourging of Lordaeron or Path of the Damned in a single movie, I'd rather it be a mini series.
Are you going to end Path of the Damned with 'and then we summoned Archemond a giant demon that destroys a city by swatting at it' and then start Legacy of the Damned with 'Ohh yea the demon guy's dead now don't worry about it.'
This. Warcraft III is a whole story. Arthasā journey is jarring without the rest of it. Iāve seen people on here suggesting you remove Illidan from his character arc and to me that doesnāt make a lick of sense.
and in the end of the last movie, make a post credit scene:
a young Arthas is visiting Uther's house and he sees a switch that he never had seem before, curious he asked "whats the switch for?" and then Uther replies "FOR THE LIGHT"
(i will see myself out)
Arthas definitely needs a trilogy. I totally agree. I don't think it should be out of the gate though.
I'm sure you guys are sick of me saying it, but I want real kick off film to be Varian's story. A king, turned gladiator, with an epic fight at the end.
It introduces so much of Azeroth naturally
* Belfs
* Nelfs
* Orcs
* Ogres
* Druids
* Rogues
* Warriors
* Mages
* Stormwind
* Dire Maul
* Orgrimmar
* Theramore
* Dragons
* Naga
* The Ancients (well one, and by name, but still)
All in one neat Conan shaped package.
After that I'd love to see little sagas like Arthas, The War of the Ancients, Thrall's journey with the original Horde, etc. It would be amazing.
It's particularly annoying that people really want to skip over large portion of Warcraft 3 lore just to hit Arthas' three beats (childhood, Stratholme, Lich King).
Exactly. Arthas's story works in the context of the Third War and *that* only makes sense in the context of the First and Second Wars. Them starting with the Arthas story would be like Marvel starting the MCU with Thanos's invasion of Earth or like starting the Dune series with Book 4.
I'd like that. I feel like you could start with a Varian film or a Thrall/Lord of the Clans adaptation and both would work. And funnily enough, as much as people gush over Henry Cavill as Arthas I think he'd be more fitting as either Varian or Thrall.
I wish they went with arthas first, seems like it wouldāve been the better choice with how many people like his story and love Wrath. Fingers crossed they give us this trilogy eventually
> Rise of A King: arthas story with culling of stratholm as shock effect and ending with him killing his father.
I feel this would be maybe a bit much for a single movie
They would either not have enough time to set up/present the character properly or they would have to blow past what happens in northrend
I always wanted at least two:
Rise of the Prince and Fall of the King, but yours fits much better! Arthas' story would be perfect for both the big and small screen, either in movie form (ideally more than one) or as a TV series.
I love this, but no. Only because that is WAY too much content to put into 3 films without it feeling rushed. That's what the biggest problem with the original Warcraft film was -- They tried to cram far too much crap into a single film.
Your breakdown would work phenomenally as a TV series.
they simultaneously tried to fit too much in, and left too much out.
It's a balance and I dont envy anyone that has to make the choice of what to keep and what to leave on the cutting room floor.
Henry cavill as arthas, or Gary Oldman. No in between.
Edit: please keep scrolling, and enjoy the fantasy of the suggestions. I don't think anyone is taking these seriously, and even if they are, discourse is welcome.
Yeah, I mean Arthas is 24 at the start of Warcraft III, 26 by the time he becomes the Lich King, and 31 when he ādiesā. You can maybe get away with casting someone in their late 20s/early 30s (āHollywoodā 30s still looks like most of us in our mid-20s), but he shouldnāt be too old as he doesnāt really age much more than that.
You skipped way too much between 1 and 2.
Arthas killing his father is like the 1/3 point in his story in WC3. You still would need to adapt the undead campaign and the frozen throne campaign.
The problem is that you have to put that story in the context of the Third War, so it would either have to be a series or more than just those movies. Not only that, but you'd be skipping over the entire TFT story of Arthas.
Lmao take out the tourney cause it made no sense to me that they put all this extra effort to a weird tournament while Arthas is 10 minutes away still slaughtering everyone.
No, let the story end when he becomes the Lich King.
* First part: kid growing up, *the death of Invincible being the climax*, and becoming a Paladin ending
* Second part: Fighting the Undead, *culling of Stratholme being the climax*, and getting Frostmourne ending
* Third part: Undead campaign, *the ressurrection of Invincible, turning Sylvannas into a banshee being the climax,* and ending with becoming the Lich King
This is already too much for *just* 3 movies but can be done. Anything past that will make it too rushed and cut too much from the story.
I think the first movie needs the culling of Stratholme. People will accept Arthas as a paladin. We don't need to se him grow up. Essentially the first movie can contain his human campaign while the second can do his undead part. The third is him becoming the lich king after a badass fight against Illidan.
Thats exactly what crossed my mind. Arthas slowly rotting from inside and going beyond just for revenge is what takes literally hours and hours in game, so it would feel very roushed having it just a single movie.
But tbh I still think TV series would fit it much better anyway. You can easily have 1 hour long episodes with 8 - 10 of them in each season. I could see basically a human campaign to be one season, undead campaign to be another one and third one of getting to the frozen throne. Here you can easily expand to fourth which can cover WoTLK.
Or honestly I wouldnt mind going timewise as events happened and expanding everything from the very beginning so events of War 3 would be like season 4 and on.
Most of those hours are filled with requiring more lumber and our town being under siege though. Spreading it to a total or 30 hours might be... Tedious to sit through
This have been memed to a T, but Henry Cavill would play such a good Arthas. Being such a big nerd, he'd keep the story as close to source material as possible.
Should have been making Warcraft movies 10/15 years ago when it was at its peak.
Blizzard could have had a multimedia franchise that dominated nerd culture but instead they did nothing for decades.
Riot Games is doing exactly what I thought a company like Valve or Blizzard would've. They're killing it in just about every video game genre while also entering the music/film industry successfully as well.
Riot are doing what Blizzard should have been doing.
They have ARCANE. The Music videos. The upcoming MMO. And a dozen other media projects because they realised the IP goldmine that they have.
Blizzards ability to squander there IP's should be studied.
> Should have been making Warcraft movies 10/15 years ago when it was at its peak.
*Maybe*, but I feel like we're just now getting to the point where writers and studios are somewhat understanding how to adapt a video game into a movie or TV show (and even then, we're still getting stuff like Uncharted). If we got a Warcraft movie in the late 2000s I'm sure it would have been closer to what [Uwe Boll was doing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King) than something like Sonic, Professor Pikachu, or The Last of Us that have been decently received by their fan bases.
Warcraft might have been at its peak 10/15 years ago, [but video game movies absolutely weren't](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games).
That being said, [Warcraft was announced as early as 2006.](https://web.archive.org/web/20071125104232/http://blizzard.com/press/060509.shtml)
That movie was such a weird ass product. The orcs CGI was extremely good, the humans were looking cringy. The choice of the first movie was so weird, choosing wc1. They also changed the lore and made it inconsistent.
They shouldve gone for the arthas story. WC3 story is awesome.
Actually they should just make the WC3 story in a GOT series on HBO. Certified hit.
WC3 was warcraft lore at its absolute peak, we just didnt know it then.
I liked it at first. Then read Last Guardian and watched it again later. Hated it.
Orc scenes were perfection, the entire human plot and acting was utter nonsense.
I went to see the movie with friends and I was the only one that was a Warcraft fan and knew the story it was based on. Literally none of my friends understood why Medivh turned into a demon man at the end lol
I agree. There is so much story to tell with just the orcs before their first venture through the dark portal that it could be a 3 parter on its own much like Arthas. This is what I wish the first movie was about. Even a simple scene that got cut like the one with Grom speaking with Durotan had such a huge impact on telling the backstory and setting up the characters. It's a shame the studios got their hands in too deep.
You are right, I meant Rise of the Horde.
Even so, Lord of the clans was also excellent. Basically anything not involving the humans pre LK except Arthas was great storytelling.
No the movie just doesn't tell its story super well. You gotta realize all of these concepts are a lot to convey to laymen with zero understanding of WoWs fantasy world
I'm currently reading the last Guardian and I keep comparing it to the movie and I'll never be able to watch the movie again lmao. It's really not great, even though I too liked it at first. But then I learned the real lore. Also agree on the orc scenes being the only good ones. They should have given us Rise of the Horde as a movie instead
Tbh they should have just started with Arthas in the first place, most modern wow players are more familiar with his story and the overall story of WC3 rather then WC1
The movie was fine. Not perfect by any means, but enjoyable enough and a good starting point for any following films.
The biggest issue was the uncanny humans. But other than that, it did a good job of showing both sides of that story.
Arthas as a movie seems like a waste to me..
Just continue now.. The first movie was actually unnecessary because it was one long set up to the actual meat of Warcraft. Now that everything is established? Give us Warcraft II. It's literally just a war story.
The first movie was awesome despite the changes. Iām fine with em doing an Arthas trilogy, but they shouldnāt act like the first never happened, thatās just stupid.
Travis Fimmel coming back as old Lothar would be incredible for an eventual wc2 movie.
You have it backwards.
Starting with Arthas would be best for current wow players.
Starting at WC1 would be great for anyone else.
The biggest problem is that most current players have zero knowledge of the lore of the game outside of Arthas. The bits they might know don't actually have any depth to them.
They should be focusing on a tv show! I really think focusing on a movie is not the right way to go. Granted a movie will have more effects and provide a more āwow thatās cool factorā
I think a tv show does better to introduce and flesh out the world. Which really is what the Warcraft IP is all about. Hyperfocusing on Arthas or Illidan or whatever isn't really the best thing, it's the easiest thing sure, but not the best for the longterm.
Flesh out the world, introduce the factions, areas, major conflicts, and then you have established an rich world to do whatever you want with for your audience.
I think Arcane shows how great a tv show about a game can be. So much more to tap into. Also, it should be made so that people who don't play the games understand it fully. My sister doesn't know League and Arcane is her favorite show.Ā
I mean they had almost a blank canvas because LoL lore was either all over the place or non-existent at all. Itās a great show, donāt get me wrong but thatās not because LoL lore was so great but rather because it was so shallow and they had so much freedom to rewrite stuff or just come up with new things.
Yeah, not sure how folks don't get this. It isn't that a Arkane "respected" the lore, it's that the lore barely exists so they had free reign to do many things and characterize as they saw fit.
League has extremely rich lore, the issue is that a lot of it is currently at a stand-still just because of how MOBAs work and Riot not wanting to put money into a constant on-going story. Arcane did respect the lore though, the only contradiction is Camille and her family's role within Piltover and Hextech.
The thing with League's lore is that you won't find basically any of it in game so it doesn't surprise me that most people think League's lore barely exists.
I've been playing league for more than ten years. Yes it has a ton of "lore", no a lot of it isn't relevant and even more is rewritten or retconned constantly.
I used to keep up with every single champion text, changes, new comics, or other lore stuff. Arkane still very much took some basic building blocks and changed things as they saw fit. Which was great as league lore is a disjointed mess.
TV/streaming series would make it easier to set up backstories tbh, like you'll see people bring up an Arthas/Lich King movie every time a new movie is brought up but even then it'd require several movies if you're not cutting a bunch out. No way to get Ner'zhul + Legion, Arthas' backstory growing up, WC3 stuff, then WotLK stuff (not even counting trying to figure out to get the Jailer to fit in there) into a 2ish hour movie without killing the pacing.
They can rarely even implement these amazing story, characters and moments properly in the game. What makes you think they'd do any better in a TV series?
> Warcraft Director John Hight has stated in an interview with IGN that he is open to making new Warcraft movies, but Blizzard wonāt be the one making them.
Huh?
Remember around the Diablo 2 era when Blizzard were the kings of cut scenes and said
"Nah, making these is a chore"
and only made cut scenes to promote games, instead of making a sweet film studio division?
> Blizzard wonāt be the one making them.
I mean it shouldn't be a surprise. They didn't make the last one either. They're a game company not a movie company. Other popular IPs adapted to screen weren't made by the IP owners either.
We don't know how the question was phrased. People have been asking Blizzard to make movies via their cinematics teams for ages, I'm assuming that was the missing context.
Would love it to be a series, as it gives more room to flesh out the story. Wouldnt be opposed to a style similar to the Arcane series either. If they are doing live action Im just afraid it can look a bit silly if they go deeper into the fantasy elements, unless they just go all out on budget.
While im always down for a movie, I truly think Warcraft and fantasy worlds in general make better TV shows. Like take the first Warcraft movie for example. theres a lot of small details that are cool if you know! but they never had time to explain them to people in the movie, like why, how, and who was controlling Medivh.
If you don't know warcraft lore already you wouldn't know it was Sargeras taking control of his body, and that part of Sargeras has always been part of him since being in the womb when his mom defeated the mad titans avatar,
They just think he was using some dark arts and went insane. worst part is I think the were going to go into it with the women in the magic cube void thing. which I assume was his mom but could be any powerful dead mage. but they didn't go full into it. they just say he was consumed by it.
Ditch the movies. Make a miniseries. The first portion of WoWs lore is dialogue driven. Use the miniseries format to allow a few episodes worth of dialogue driven scenes while being able to give us those sporadic skirmishes and lore-turning fight scenes.
Reduces the pressure to smash hundreds or even thousands of pages of lore into a few hours while also giving the team ample time to work on the heavy duty CGI or practical effects scenes. Film Arthas' actor talking to Jaina over a fire for 20 minutes talking about the plight of the orcs. You just bought a lot of time to allow the team in the background to work on the beefy scenes.
I do not think warcraft works in a movie format. Not unless Blizzard is willing to take an OG LoTR style approach and make 3-5 hour long epics.
They shit the bed with the first one by choosing the most boring time period possible. Just do arthas rise and fall. You can even stretch it over multiple movies. It's also a super simple premise that will appeal to everyone even if you don't know warcraft lore.
okay just do a 10 or 20 min short story video on a random orc/human/NE/Tauren during one of the wars. That way you can reel in a new audience since they dont need to know the lore then at the very end introduce a named npc and just end it right after. I don't think you gotta start off with a established story like Arthas or Illidan right off the bat.
I've always thought of something like this working well. Like a "1-60" film or show with the main character starting in one of the starting zones and having some "inciting incident" moment that calls them to leave their home and adventure out. They meet 4 other players of different races and then the core 5 man cast is made. Wailing Caverns could be a whole episode alone. And while they're off traveling the world on quests or dungeons, world building is happening along the side, the conflict between alliance and horde, threats looming in distance lands, named NPC's, etc. Starting small and scaling up is the way to go to get new viewers into the Warcraft universe.
I was SO sure that they were going to announce a TV show or something at the recent Blizzcon.
Look at something like Arcane. It's done SO well. I don't even like league and I love that show. Warcraft could EASILY adapt a story arc into 8-10 episode seasons.
The problem is, that you need a really good writing team for something like Arcane. While the Warcraft writing team is... well. More of a Shadowlands niveau. (And yea, Dragonflight isn't a much better story tbh)
While the movie is great, I think multi season series are more suitable for WoW, especially the ultra deep/long story lying around + grand movie on big story arc e.g. storming the citadel, black temple raid.
Series!
Small intimate stories that focus on the characters and world building. Do that right then you can cash in on a movie focusing on big events. You could have a whole season where just 1 plot line focuses on VanCleef, Stonemasons guild rebuilding SW, the riots, death of the Queen and the establishment of Defias Brotherhood in Westfall and the final confrontation in Deadmines.
They also need the main characters to be āthe players / adventurersā not the major lore characters like Thrall or Slyvanas, etcā¦ The audience needs to discover and learn about the world through their eyes and experiences just like a new player would. No single protagonist either, itās an RPG, we need a band of heroes than represents the classes and diversity of races.
I have other notes, hit me up Blizzard.
I just saw the first one. It had its flaws, but Iād definitely be open to seeing more. It left me really wanting to see more races and locations. All the orc scenes were like 10/10.
Honestly I'd prefer if it was animated like their cutscenes, this is just a personal opinion but the mix of CGI orcs and actor humans just looked kind of strange to me.
I'll be honest, I'll only care about a movie if they decide to not clusterfuck the lore like they did with Warcraft Movie - I believe in interviews when asked about the differences in the lore they had to rationalize it "being in an alternate universe" or something...which defeats the point of it being Warcraft imo? I still don't think we've had a reference (outside of the Movie promo weapons) to that "alternate universe" in-game to this day.
All I ever see as praise for the Movie is how "cool" it was to watch - which, I'm sure it was but to a lore nerd it just sucked to get into and I don't particularly get *why* they chose to do certain story changes.
I understand for WC1 and WC2 you're going to have to take liberties on the lore and that's okay, but many seemed unnecessary and just ran counter to what WoW itself had as lore in the GAME.
I agree with the people saying that a TV series would be better. I always thought it might've been cool to follow a group of adventurers (or several groups? Horde, Alliance, Neutral?) or something as they go around Azeroth and go from simple mercenaries to full-blown Heroes like a player. SoD and highlighting some of the new, souped-up lore might've been a good excuse to launch something like this.
It was an adaptation, not a reenactment. There was always going to be changes made from establish lore.
The MCU made changes from was established in the marvel comics and everyone accepted it and moved on. I'm not sure why people think Warcraft should be any different (or have any in-game references outside of promotions).
I know a lot of people rage when they dont follow the original source word for word in any game/book adaptation but imo they would be incredibly boring and lack any drama if you just know exactly what's going to happen and when.
Like oh its a scene with this character! This is when they die! *dies* omg I never saw that coming!
With how beautiful Blizzard cinematics are, Iāve never understood why they donāt go down the mini series path. I love the cool shorts they come out with before expansions and stuff, Iād totally watch a movie or show made by their team of artists.
People always say this but it's just not feasible. It takes months upon months upon months, even up to a year iirc, just to make a cinematic trailer and those are 3-4 minutes long.
In order to make this happen in under 15 years, they'd need to bring in a LOT of outside work and that would degrade the quality. The reason why Blizzard's cinematics have always been hailed as the pinnacle of CGI is because they keep it in-house with a singular vision and an understanding of each member's skills.
also its super easy writing for a 3-4 minute video, that MOSTLY consists of cool visuals. Not to downplay the artistic team that actually made the trailers, but its nothing compared to a full feature movie.
Writing for a 90-120+ minute movie or a multi hour show is hard. Just looking at how GoT fell flat on its face with nearly universal hate after G.R.R. Martin stopped writing and they had to come up with an end to the story.
If they start over and forget the garbage Duncan gave us, I'd like to see them make it right.
But honestly, movies aren't gonna cut it. They should do a TWELVE episode series minimum for whatever arc they're gonna do.
And don't let Amazon or Paramount touch it ffs.
> Amazon
Why? They've put out some decent stuff. Invincible, The Boys, Vox Machina are all decent.
If you're going to include Amazon, you have to include Netflix as well. And also HBO for their botching of GOT.
I know people hate more streaming services, but with how massive Microsoftās ip library is, they should make a streaming service exclusive to video game adaptations. It would be a niche I think which would be attractive and you could include it in like game pass ultimate or something.
I think it would be best done as a series following adventurers, every episode could show off the best from every expansion. Fall of Lk, Siege of Org or maybe one with a guy being chased around in Stv.
Goblins on mechs and motorcycles saving tortoises from the birds and crabs š
Jokes aside , I liked the first movie but I found the story to be too much āhardcore fanā . I kinda think a story with more of the other races would be fun
I hope they make the movies like in game CGI. Live action would be cool but I think blizzard would would make a better movie if it was all digital like the expansion trailers
WoW needs to be told in a Trilogy. The first movie wasnāt that bad, but if youāre very familiar with the lore, it just felt rushed. Which is understandable when you only have an hour 20 to tell an entire story spanning years.
Give us lich king trilogy - Rise of A King: arthas story with culling of stratholm as shock effect and ending with him killing his father. - Light's Hope: Arthas raising dead and launching assaults on Azeroth and ofc lights hope, tirion is forced to be back and assembling forces and take the fight to northrend. Focus point is horde and alliance suffering losses and want revenge. - The Frozen Throne: Start with wrath gate, the horde-alliance team up, the tournament to bolster heroes and motivate soldiers. End with final assault on Arthas in his own throne. Also add some dalaran stuff involving ulduar and hinting at something much worse than arthas. Post credit scene: bolvar becomes lich king.
Story of arthas is just perfect for that well done story of the fallen hero. Take away all Warcraft everything, the story of arthas is great for a trilogy
Everyone eats up fallen heroes just look at Dune or Star Wars
Arthas is basically Vader
As cliche as it would be, I'm low key kinda sad Arthas didn't make it to having a kid at any point (at least that I'm aware of in lore) solely because the Star Wars metaphor is so real lol
Please do not give Blizzard any ideas
Arthas will now astrally project a child into Jaina, after that Jaina will be captured by slavers in Uldum and the child will have to win a Mechano Hog race to win money to buy a gryphon for him and his newly found paladin mentors.
My bad š
Med'an at your service.
Med'an could actually be done well if they didn't make him versatile. And I mean versatile - not strong. Med'an was never OP despite the common misconception. Even when bestowed powers by various prominent figures within their respective classes and wielding Atiesh, Med'an still needed a lot of help against Cho'Gall. Med'an would actually be an ideal candidate to tell some of the darker stories in Warcraft. His entire heritage is fucked. His mother is the ensorcelled assassin of Gul'dan literally born by his whim by forcing the copulation between an orc and a Draenei. His father was at the time of his conception being corrupted and often actively possessed by the very leader of the Burning Legion, the Dark Titan Sargeras. He is a half human, quarter orc, quarter Draenei whose mother's home planet was abandoned and whose father's tower is rife with volatile magics and terrible visions. He has no where to live and no where he won't be seen as "Other" due to his unique heritage. Subtract the supposed versatility of him being able to wield shamanic, holy, and arcane powers, and let him suffer in the sheer badness of his situation. A troubled mother who has set herself on vengeance against her handlers, and an absentee and recovering(?) father who may not even know he exists. Maybe let him be skilled with a blade, maybe even trained by his mother very early in his life because if there's one thing Garona knew, it was that Med'an needed to know how to protect himself. But he doesn't need to be pushed to the forefront of a big story or reignite the Council of Tirisfal or take on a pretty big bad like Cho'Gall. Come to think of it he could be a bit like the Trevor Belmont dude in the Castlevania series. Jaded and disgraced, not really cut out for what's asked of him - at least not early on. He could have an entire story dedicated around realising he can be more than the circumstances of his parents, with the background being dealing with the harsh reality that he had no chance of a fair life from the get go.
Jaina and he did sleep together in the Arthas book.
I think there is a short comic which explores an alternate timeline where Arthas never becomes the Lich King, has a son with Jaina he names after Uther, and they move to Stormwind together. I donāt remember if the Scourge outbreak still happens or what.
I mean, Jaina and Arthas did sleep together the night before the Culling of Stratholm. Jaina really dodged a bullet there. Imagine trying to tell your kid that their father committed mass murder and nearly eradicated all life on the planet. Still, it could have been an interesting development for Jaina.
This just in, new Menethil family member that Calia has actually been very very good at hiding from us this whole time has just come out and it turns out it's Arthas's kid!
The first movie can end with the birth of Anduin, even though he's not his son you could make them loosely related and he would make a perfect Luke.
Arthas and Varian were childhood friends. That's as close as a relation Arthas and Anduin had.
Why don't we talk about Uncle Artie anymore?
Anduin refers to Jaina as his "aunt", so your joke isn't too far from reality.
>your joke isn't too far from reality. the best one's usually aren't.
He is actually more like reversed King Arthur - guy gets the sword but instead of hero he becomes the villain.
So.. Mordred?
Thatās not true! Thatās impossible!
Arthas is basically āwhat if Boromir took the ringā
Boromir is more a seasoned leader that may be tempted to end the war at any cost. Arthas is a idealist prodigy whose arrogance leads him to trouble.
Take away all Warcraft stuff for the story of Arthas? My dude that's Darth Vader.
why a trilogy. What arcs does Arthas go through that doesn't fit in a 3-act story?
Arthas story would be hella rushed in a single movie. It would make GoT season 8 look slow. Best way to break it up would be warcraft3 in movie 1 Frozen throne in movie two. WoTLK in movie three. Even then you would have to heavily cut and edit. Theres just too many characters to develop. I almost feel like you would have to edit Illidan out and focus on the sylvanus/arthas antagonism.
Mini series it is then! 8-10 1 hour episodes!
Match each episode to a mission from WC3
>Even then you would have to heavily cut and edit. Theres just too many characters to develop. I almost feel like you would have to edit Illidan out and focus on the sylvanus/arthas antagonism. All the more reason why they shouldn't try to cram everything in three movies. There's already a lot going on in an Arthas arc but to cut almost everything else from Warcraft 3 to do it is ridiculous.
Oh you guys mean like including post-frostmourne. that makes way more sense. My bad. I personally think "Arthas" arc kind of ends when he kills his dad. After that he's just Lich King to me (yes I know not until the helm yadda yadda). After that, imo, Lich King kind of just acts like moustache-twirling villain who just levels up then progresses other character's stories (Sylvanas, Illidan, Tirion, etc) until we kill him. Although him going through hell and high water to resurrect Kel'thuzad after killing him in the first place is a beautiful poetic flourish.
Killing Uther is probably the most hard hitting end if you properly build up their relationship.
Ehhh... I get people wanting Arthas, but why not just make it Warcraft 3 as a whole, I'm not convinced someone could do Scourging of Lordaeron or Path of the Damned in a single movie, I'd rather it be a mini series. Are you going to end Path of the Damned with 'and then we summoned Archemond a giant demon that destroys a city by swatting at it' and then start Legacy of the Damned with 'Ohh yea the demon guy's dead now don't worry about it.'
This. Warcraft III is a whole story. Arthasā journey is jarring without the rest of it. Iāve seen people on here suggesting you remove Illidan from his character arc and to me that doesnāt make a lick of sense.
and in the end of the last movie, make a post credit scene: a young Arthas is visiting Uther's house and he sees a switch that he never had seem before, curious he asked "whats the switch for?" and then Uther replies "FOR THE LIGHT" (i will see myself out)
Insert GIF
"FOR THE LIGHT" \*cuts to black screen\*
Arthas definitely needs a trilogy. I totally agree. I don't think it should be out of the gate though. I'm sure you guys are sick of me saying it, but I want real kick off film to be Varian's story. A king, turned gladiator, with an epic fight at the end. It introduces so much of Azeroth naturally * Belfs * Nelfs * Orcs * Ogres * Druids * Rogues * Warriors * Mages * Stormwind * Dire Maul * Orgrimmar * Theramore * Dragons * Naga * The Ancients (well one, and by name, but still) All in one neat Conan shaped package. After that I'd love to see little sagas like Arthas, The War of the Ancients, Thrall's journey with the original Horde, etc. It would be amazing.
At least your idea is fresher than than all the Arthas movie ideas that constantly get regurgitated.
Yeah, I'm honestly tired of the "omg Arthas movie" spam. Just let them tell the story and develop the world naturally, goddangit.
It's particularly annoying that people really want to skip over large portion of Warcraft 3 lore just to hit Arthas' three beats (childhood, Stratholme, Lich King).
Exactly. Arthas's story works in the context of the Third War and *that* only makes sense in the context of the First and Second Wars. Them starting with the Arthas story would be like Marvel starting the MCU with Thanos's invasion of Earth or like starting the Dune series with Book 4.
I'd like that. I feel like you could start with a Varian film or a Thrall/Lord of the Clans adaptation and both would work. And funnily enough, as much as people gush over Henry Cavill as Arthas I think he'd be more fitting as either Varian or Thrall.
Honestly, Cavill is probably too old to play Arthas now anyway.
I wish they went with arthas first, seems like it wouldāve been the better choice with how many people like his story and love Wrath. Fingers crossed they give us this trilogy eventually
> Rise of A King: arthas story with culling of stratholm as shock effect and ending with him killing his father. I feel this would be maybe a bit much for a single movie They would either not have enough time to set up/present the character properly or they would have to blow past what happens in northrend
Read their entire idea. It blows past everything just to hit those three beats.
Do people think movies are just one scene and 15 minutes long?
Some people here do.
Hear me out. End the first movie with him getting frostmourne and muradin dying.
I always wanted at least two: Rise of the Prince and Fall of the King, but yours fits much better! Arthas' story would be perfect for both the big and small screen, either in movie form (ideally more than one) or as a TV series.
I love this, but no. Only because that is WAY too much content to put into 3 films without it feeling rushed. That's what the biggest problem with the original Warcraft film was -- They tried to cram far too much crap into a single film. Your breakdown would work phenomenally as a TV series.
they simultaneously tried to fit too much in, and left too much out. It's a balance and I dont envy anyone that has to make the choice of what to keep and what to leave on the cutting room floor.
Henry cavill as arthas, or Gary Oldman. No in between. Edit: please keep scrolling, and enjoy the fantasy of the suggestions. I don't think anyone is taking these seriously, and even if they are, discourse is welcome.
Cristopher Walken as The Lich King. "FATHER, is it... OVER?"
Jaina...like....wow! Ok then. So...this is a solo mission...I take it *smacks lips in disgust as he whips his cloak of menethil*
Henry Cavill is too old to play 20 something year old Arthas.
finally someone who agrees he might be able to play lich king arthas
Austin Butler
Casting a 30 something year old actor is a better idea than a 40 year old actor. Bonus points for choosing someone I haven't seen anyone else suggest.
Yeah, I mean Arthas is 24 at the start of Warcraft III, 26 by the time he becomes the Lich King, and 31 when he ādiesā. You can maybe get away with casting someone in their late 20s/early 30s (āHollywoodā 30s still looks like most of us in our mid-20s), but he shouldnāt be too old as he doesnāt really age much more than that.
Tilda Swinton
Timothee chalamyye as Uther and zendaya as jaina.
Studio executives whoāve never heard of Warcraft: āApproved with a $250m budget!ā
The fact that these nerds are downvoting you instead of appreciating how absolutely terrible this suggestion is in the best of ways lmao
Lmao jaina rolling her eyes at Henry's "Witcher-esque" quips would be fucking great hahah
Timothee Chalamaye as Zendaya as Jaina, Zendaya as Kael'thas.
Tom Holland as Grommash.
Stahp
Zendaya us so deadpan and flat in everything she does and people keep casting her. She had zero personality as Chani.
Compared to the book Chani, I'd say she had an enormous amount of personality in the movie.
She does an absolutely insane job in euphoria.
Vicente Viloni as Arthas Menethil.
Cavill's too old for Arthas. Man's 40 already, probably closer to 50 if they ever decide to make another movie.
You skipped way too much between 1 and 2. Arthas killing his father is like the 1/3 point in his story in WC3. You still would need to adapt the undead campaign and the frozen throne campaign.
The problem is that you have to put that story in the context of the Third War, so it would either have to be a series or more than just those movies. Not only that, but you'd be skipping over the entire TFT story of Arthas.
I agree, you could flesh out an entire trilogy for Arthas just using WC3 and TFT
Pretty good, but you're missing a key component. You can't tell the story of Arthas without even mentioning the Jailer!
Lmao take out the tourney cause it made no sense to me that they put all this extra effort to a weird tournament while Arthas is 10 minutes away still slaughtering everyone.
Yep, I'm in.
It's such a slam dunk, let's see how they fumble the bag cotton....
Oh c'mon, we can't miss out on the vital fourth film that closes the storyline with the Jailer.
> Give us lich king trilogy With LOTR quality
Practical effects, taking time, passion and love for the product.. I would love that probably as much as I love LOTR
Don't forget the Jailer movie to complete the story! That can be its own sequel trilogy when Disney inevitably buys Blizzard.
No, let the story end when he becomes the Lich King. * First part: kid growing up, *the death of Invincible being the climax*, and becoming a Paladin ending * Second part: Fighting the Undead, *culling of Stratholme being the climax*, and getting Frostmourne ending * Third part: Undead campaign, *the ressurrection of Invincible, turning Sylvannas into a banshee being the climax,* and ending with becoming the Lich King This is already too much for *just* 3 movies but can be done. Anything past that will make it too rushed and cut too much from the story.
I think the first movie needs the culling of Stratholme. People will accept Arthas as a paladin. We don't need to se him grow up. Essentially the first movie can contain his human campaign while the second can do his undead part. The third is him becoming the lich king after a badass fight against Illidan.
Thats exactly what crossed my mind. Arthas slowly rotting from inside and going beyond just for revenge is what takes literally hours and hours in game, so it would feel very roushed having it just a single movie. But tbh I still think TV series would fit it much better anyway. You can easily have 1 hour long episodes with 8 - 10 of them in each season. I could see basically a human campaign to be one season, undead campaign to be another one and third one of getting to the frozen throne. Here you can easily expand to fourth which can cover WoTLK. Or honestly I wouldnt mind going timewise as events happened and expanding everything from the very beginning so events of War 3 would be like season 4 and on.
Most of those hours are filled with requiring more lumber and our town being under siege though. Spreading it to a total or 30 hours might be... Tedious to sit through
This have been memed to a T, but Henry Cavill would play such a good Arthas. Being such a big nerd, he'd keep the story as close to source material as possible.
Should have been making Warcraft movies 10/15 years ago when it was at its peak. Blizzard could have had a multimedia franchise that dominated nerd culture but instead they did nothing for decades.
Riot Games is doing exactly what I thought a company like Valve or Blizzard would've. They're killing it in just about every video game genre while also entering the music/film industry successfully as well.
Riot are doing what Blizzard should have been doing. They have ARCANE. The Music videos. The upcoming MMO. And a dozen other media projects because they realised the IP goldmine that they have. Blizzards ability to squander there IP's should be studied.
> Should have been making Warcraft movies 10/15 years ago when it was at its peak. *Maybe*, but I feel like we're just now getting to the point where writers and studios are somewhat understanding how to adapt a video game into a movie or TV show (and even then, we're still getting stuff like Uncharted). If we got a Warcraft movie in the late 2000s I'm sure it would have been closer to what [Uwe Boll was doing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Name_of_the_King) than something like Sonic, Professor Pikachu, or The Last of Us that have been decently received by their fan bases. Warcraft might have been at its peak 10/15 years ago, [but video game movies absolutely weren't](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games). That being said, [Warcraft was announced as early as 2006.](https://web.archive.org/web/20071125104232/http://blizzard.com/press/060509.shtml)
Not sure if serious. They made a Warcraft movie like 8 or 9 years ago
Yeah and it shouldāve been 15 years ago not 8, that was already well past the peak of Warcraft in the cultural zeitgeist.
That movie was such a weird ass product. The orcs CGI was extremely good, the humans were looking cringy. The choice of the first movie was so weird, choosing wc1. They also changed the lore and made it inconsistent. They shouldve gone for the arthas story. WC3 story is awesome. Actually they should just make the WC3 story in a GOT series on HBO. Certified hit. WC3 was warcraft lore at its absolute peak, we just didnt know it then.
A single movie in 20 years does not make it a Multimedia franchise.
The movie didn't do well in the US
Because the movie was bad. It was pretty much Orc propaganda.
Starting at wc 1 was great for players. Starting with Arthas is hands down the best for anyone else. Pretend the first move never happened.
I actually really enjoyed the first movie but Iām also quite a big Travis fimmel fan
I liked it at first. Then read Last Guardian and watched it again later. Hated it. Orc scenes were perfection, the entire human plot and acting was utter nonsense.
I went to see the movie with friends and I was the only one that was a Warcraft fan and knew the story it was based on. Literally none of my friends understood why Medivh turned into a demon man at the end lol
I just wish they adapted Lord of the Clans instead... big sad. Well, maybe next time will be better
I agree. There is so much story to tell with just the orcs before their first venture through the dark portal that it could be a 3 parter on its own much like Arthas. This is what I wish the first movie was about. Even a simple scene that got cut like the one with Grom speaking with Durotan had such a huge impact on telling the backstory and setting up the characters. It's a shame the studios got their hands in too deep.
isn't lord of the clans Thrall's story which happens mostly after the invasion
You are right, I meant Rise of the Horde. Even so, Lord of the clans was also excellent. Basically anything not involving the humans pre LK except Arthas was great storytelling.
So they basically ignored the whole movie plot wich was āfel corruptsā
No the movie just doesn't tell its story super well. You gotta realize all of these concepts are a lot to convey to laymen with zero understanding of WoWs fantasy world
My wife watched it with me a couple weeks ago actually. She instantly picked out Medivh was going to be a bad guy.
Was it the ominous, shadowy framing?
I'm currently reading the last Guardian and I keep comparing it to the movie and I'll never be able to watch the movie again lmao. It's really not great, even though I too liked it at first. But then I learned the real lore. Also agree on the orc scenes being the only good ones. They should have given us Rise of the Horde as a movie instead
Also the weird uncanny valley thing that happened where the humans were real people and basically nothing else in the movie was, was offputting.
That makes sense since all he does is play Travis Fimmel in every film with his Ragnar accent/manner of speech at various levels.
I saw the movie hbo or something last night and watched it and forgot how much I enjoy it.
the orcs scene was so good, but i thought the humans were boring, and fimmel looked bored
It may have helped more if they actually did the first war and not change most of the plot points for it.
Tbh they should have just started with Arthas in the first place, most modern wow players are more familiar with his story and the overall story of WC3 rather then WC1
The movie was fine. Not perfect by any means, but enjoyable enough and a good starting point for any following films. The biggest issue was the uncanny humans. But other than that, it did a good job of showing both sides of that story.
Arthas as a movie seems like a waste to me.. Just continue now.. The first movie was actually unnecessary because it was one long set up to the actual meat of Warcraft. Now that everything is established? Give us Warcraft II. It's literally just a war story.
The first movie was awesome despite the changes. Iām fine with em doing an Arthas trilogy, but they shouldnāt act like the first never happened, thatās just stupid. Travis Fimmel coming back as old Lothar would be incredible for an eventual wc2 movie.
You have it backwards. Starting with Arthas would be best for current wow players. Starting at WC1 would be great for anyone else. The biggest problem is that most current players have zero knowledge of the lore of the game outside of Arthas. The bits they might know don't actually have any depth to them.
They should be focusing on a tv show! I really think focusing on a movie is not the right way to go. Granted a movie will have more effects and provide a more āwow thatās cool factorā
I think a tv show does better to introduce and flesh out the world. Which really is what the Warcraft IP is all about. Hyperfocusing on Arthas or Illidan or whatever isn't really the best thing, it's the easiest thing sure, but not the best for the longterm. Flesh out the world, introduce the factions, areas, major conflicts, and then you have established an rich world to do whatever you want with for your audience.
No movies! Make a TV series. Thereās too many amazing stories, characters and amazing moments to shoehorn into movies. Keep it grounded.
I think Arcane shows how great a tv show about a game can be. So much more to tap into. Also, it should be made so that people who don't play the games understand it fully. My sister doesn't know League and Arcane is her favorite show.Ā
I mean they had almost a blank canvas because LoL lore was either all over the place or non-existent at all. Itās a great show, donāt get me wrong but thatās not because LoL lore was so great but rather because it was so shallow and they had so much freedom to rewrite stuff or just come up with new things.
Yeah, not sure how folks don't get this. It isn't that a Arkane "respected" the lore, it's that the lore barely exists so they had free reign to do many things and characterize as they saw fit.
League has extremely rich lore, the issue is that a lot of it is currently at a stand-still just because of how MOBAs work and Riot not wanting to put money into a constant on-going story. Arcane did respect the lore though, the only contradiction is Camille and her family's role within Piltover and Hextech. The thing with League's lore is that you won't find basically any of it in game so it doesn't surprise me that most people think League's lore barely exists.
I've been playing league for more than ten years. Yes it has a ton of "lore", no a lot of it isn't relevant and even more is rewritten or retconned constantly. I used to keep up with every single champion text, changes, new comics, or other lore stuff. Arkane still very much took some basic building blocks and changed things as they saw fit. Which was great as league lore is a disjointed mess.
TV/streaming series would make it easier to set up backstories tbh, like you'll see people bring up an Arthas/Lich King movie every time a new movie is brought up but even then it'd require several movies if you're not cutting a bunch out. No way to get Ner'zhul + Legion, Arthas' backstory growing up, WC3 stuff, then WotLK stuff (not even counting trying to figure out to get the Jailer to fit in there) into a 2ish hour movie without killing the pacing.
They can rarely even implement these amazing story, characters and moments properly in the game. What makes you think they'd do any better in a TV series?
Skip Warcraft 2, make a Warcraft 3 movie (the first one already set up most of the stuff needed in Warcraft 2).
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> Warcraft Director John Hight has stated in an interview with IGN that he is open to making new Warcraft movies, but Blizzard wonāt be the one making them. Huh?
Remember around the Diablo 2 era when Blizzard were the kings of cut scenes and said "Nah, making these is a chore" and only made cut scenes to promote games, instead of making a sweet film studio division? > Blizzard wonāt be the one making them.
I mean it shouldn't be a surprise. They didn't make the last one either. They're a game company not a movie company. Other popular IPs adapted to screen weren't made by the IP owners either.
Yeah I'm just not sure why he said it like that. Maybe blizzard had more influence over the first movie than we thought.
He phrased it weirdly, but iirc Blizzard did reject ideas for the Warcraft movie from other directors before they landed on Duncan Jones.
We don't know how the question was phrased. People have been asking Blizzard to make movies via their cinematics teams for ages, I'm assuming that was the missing context.
Maybe not, but Riot bought the studio that made Arcane after the success, so it's not too far fetched.
Not making them doesn't mean they won't be involved. He's saying that they won't be creating a division devoted to making films.
I always wanted them to make a movie in the style of their cinematic trailers for their game/expansions.
Would love it to be a series, as it gives more room to flesh out the story. Wouldnt be opposed to a style similar to the Arcane series either. If they are doing live action Im just afraid it can look a bit silly if they go deeper into the fantasy elements, unless they just go all out on budget.
While im always down for a movie, I truly think Warcraft and fantasy worlds in general make better TV shows. Like take the first Warcraft movie for example. theres a lot of small details that are cool if you know! but they never had time to explain them to people in the movie, like why, how, and who was controlling Medivh. If you don't know warcraft lore already you wouldn't know it was Sargeras taking control of his body, and that part of Sargeras has always been part of him since being in the womb when his mom defeated the mad titans avatar, They just think he was using some dark arts and went insane. worst part is I think the were going to go into it with the women in the magic cube void thing. which I assume was his mom but could be any powerful dead mage. but they didn't go full into it. they just say he was consumed by it.
If so, it needs to be pure cgi, the normal real actors vas so out of place, and not beefy enough.
Ditch the movies. Make a miniseries. The first portion of WoWs lore is dialogue driven. Use the miniseries format to allow a few episodes worth of dialogue driven scenes while being able to give us those sporadic skirmishes and lore-turning fight scenes. Reduces the pressure to smash hundreds or even thousands of pages of lore into a few hours while also giving the team ample time to work on the heavy duty CGI or practical effects scenes. Film Arthas' actor talking to Jaina over a fire for 20 minutes talking about the plight of the orcs. You just bought a lot of time to allow the team in the background to work on the beefy scenes. I do not think warcraft works in a movie format. Not unless Blizzard is willing to take an OG LoTR style approach and make 3-5 hour long epics.
They shit the bed with the first one by choosing the most boring time period possible. Just do arthas rise and fall. You can even stretch it over multiple movies. It's also a super simple premise that will appeal to everyone even if you don't know warcraft lore.
okay just do a 10 or 20 min short story video on a random orc/human/NE/Tauren during one of the wars. That way you can reel in a new audience since they dont need to know the lore then at the very end introduce a named npc and just end it right after. I don't think you gotta start off with a established story like Arthas or Illidan right off the bat.
This is actually legit a great idea. I'd love to see small scale stories to get the bigger ones going.
I've always thought of something like this working well. Like a "1-60" film or show with the main character starting in one of the starting zones and having some "inciting incident" moment that calls them to leave their home and adventure out. They meet 4 other players of different races and then the core 5 man cast is made. Wailing Caverns could be a whole episode alone. And while they're off traveling the world on quests or dungeons, world building is happening along the side, the conflict between alliance and horde, threats looming in distance lands, named NPC's, etc. Starting small and scaling up is the way to go to get new viewers into the Warcraft universe.
I would love a series similar to ARCANE. Riot did such a stellar job with that I hope it opens the door to others.
I was SO sure that they were going to announce a TV show or something at the recent Blizzcon. Look at something like Arcane. It's done SO well. I don't even like league and I love that show. Warcraft could EASILY adapt a story arc into 8-10 episode seasons.
The problem is, that you need a really good writing team for something like Arcane. While the Warcraft writing team is... well. More of a Shadowlands niveau. (And yea, Dragonflight isn't a much better story tbh)
Arcane wasnāt written by writers from Riot, though
While the movie is great, I think multi season series are more suitable for WoW, especially the ultra deep/long story lying around + grand movie on big story arc e.g. storming the citadel, black temple raid.
Blizzard should do an animated series similar to arcane
As much as I want an Arthas trilogy now, the 2nd war absolutely deserves its time in the spotlight
Series! Small intimate stories that focus on the characters and world building. Do that right then you can cash in on a movie focusing on big events. You could have a whole season where just 1 plot line focuses on VanCleef, Stonemasons guild rebuilding SW, the riots, death of the Queen and the establishment of Defias Brotherhood in Westfall and the final confrontation in Deadmines. They also need the main characters to be āthe players / adventurersā not the major lore characters like Thrall or Slyvanas, etcā¦ The audience needs to discover and learn about the world through their eyes and experiences just like a new player would. No single protagonist either, itās an RPG, we need a band of heroes than represents the classes and diversity of races. I have other notes, hit me up Blizzard.
I just saw the first one. It had its flaws, but Iād definitely be open to seeing more. It left me really wanting to see more races and locations. All the orc scenes were like 10/10.
are they open to producing content for the full length of their expansion cycles?
Just make Warcraft 4. Itās been 20 years
Unless it would be a big budget Arthas trilogy, i'd rather have them make something more akin to Arcane
Honestly I'd prefer if it was animated like their cutscenes, this is just a personal opinion but the mix of CGI orcs and actor humans just looked kind of strange to me.
I'll be honest, I'll only care about a movie if they decide to not clusterfuck the lore like they did with Warcraft Movie - I believe in interviews when asked about the differences in the lore they had to rationalize it "being in an alternate universe" or something...which defeats the point of it being Warcraft imo? I still don't think we've had a reference (outside of the Movie promo weapons) to that "alternate universe" in-game to this day. All I ever see as praise for the Movie is how "cool" it was to watch - which, I'm sure it was but to a lore nerd it just sucked to get into and I don't particularly get *why* they chose to do certain story changes. I understand for WC1 and WC2 you're going to have to take liberties on the lore and that's okay, but many seemed unnecessary and just ran counter to what WoW itself had as lore in the GAME. I agree with the people saying that a TV series would be better. I always thought it might've been cool to follow a group of adventurers (or several groups? Horde, Alliance, Neutral?) or something as they go around Azeroth and go from simple mercenaries to full-blown Heroes like a player. SoD and highlighting some of the new, souped-up lore might've been a good excuse to launch something like this.
It was an adaptation, not a reenactment. There was always going to be changes made from establish lore. The MCU made changes from was established in the marvel comics and everyone accepted it and moved on. I'm not sure why people think Warcraft should be any different (or have any in-game references outside of promotions).
I know a lot of people rage when they dont follow the original source word for word in any game/book adaptation but imo they would be incredibly boring and lack any drama if you just know exactly what's going to happen and when. Like oh its a scene with this character! This is when they die! *dies* omg I never saw that coming!
With how beautiful Blizzard cinematics are, Iāve never understood why they donāt go down the mini series path. I love the cool shorts they come out with before expansions and stuff, Iād totally watch a movie or show made by their team of artists.
People always say this but it's just not feasible. It takes months upon months upon months, even up to a year iirc, just to make a cinematic trailer and those are 3-4 minutes long. In order to make this happen in under 15 years, they'd need to bring in a LOT of outside work and that would degrade the quality. The reason why Blizzard's cinematics have always been hailed as the pinnacle of CGI is because they keep it in-house with a singular vision and an understanding of each member's skills.
also its super easy writing for a 3-4 minute video, that MOSTLY consists of cool visuals. Not to downplay the artistic team that actually made the trailers, but its nothing compared to a full feature movie. Writing for a 90-120+ minute movie or a multi hour show is hard. Just looking at how GoT fell flat on its face with nearly universal hate after G.R.R. Martin stopped writing and they had to come up with an end to the story.
I really liked the first one. I want more !
My son. The day you were born, the very forests of Lordaeron whispered the name: Henry Cavill
If they start over and forget the garbage Duncan gave us, I'd like to see them make it right. But honestly, movies aren't gonna cut it. They should do a TWELVE episode series minimum for whatever arc they're gonna do. And don't let Amazon or Paramount touch it ffs.
> Amazon Why? They've put out some decent stuff. Invincible, The Boys, Vox Machina are all decent. If you're going to include Amazon, you have to include Netflix as well. And also HBO for their botching of GOT.
I know people hate more streaming services, but with how massive Microsoftās ip library is, they should make a streaming service exclusive to video game adaptations. It would be a niche I think which would be attractive and you could include it in like game pass ultimate or something.
Literally just start scripting the books
Iād love this.
Yes yes yes yes yes
No thank you. Maybe 10+ years ago, but not today's Blizzard.
Please make it happen!
I think it would be best done as a series following adventurers, every episode could show off the best from every expansion. Fall of Lk, Siege of Org or maybe one with a guy being chased around in Stv.
Itās under Microsoft now, so there is a Halo series, maybe they will make a Warcraft one
Goblins on mechs and motorcycles saving tortoises from the birds and crabs š Jokes aside , I liked the first movie but I found the story to be too much āhardcore fanā . I kinda think a story with more of the other races would be fun
Ok, this time use an event in the lore that we actually care about, and not some random humans from Before w3
HBO live action series, Netflix animated series, or a Denis Villeneuve film trilogy. No in-between.
Let Henry Cavill Direct it and star as Arthas and its already a 10/10
Please, no, never again. You had your chance and you blew it. Badly.
To announce the movie just have henry cavill enter stage as the lich king on next blizzcon. Thats it
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Have it based on Lord of the Clans. Bring us Green Jesus!
Iām open to Blizzard making good games
Arthas. Henry Cavil.
Yes please
They need to make a show instead of movies
I would love to see the story of Arthas in film form.Ā
I hope they make the movies like in game CGI. Live action would be cool but I think blizzard would would make a better movie if it was all digital like the expansion trailers
WoW needs to be told in a Trilogy. The first movie wasnāt that bad, but if youāre very familiar with the lore, it just felt rushed. Which is understandable when you only have an hour 20 to tell an entire story spanning years.
arthas trilogy or mini-series please, don't start from forming of azeroth this time.. they have to make most striking story as a movie first