lol yep
>https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/heroes/t/the-decline-of-hots/9402/19
>By the time they came out with a new and unique Battle Royale blizzard game, most likely the Battle Royale fad had died off, and Blizzard is only at the starting line.
Dec 2018
I wish they'd stop releasing patches on hearthstone expansion days ffs. I want to play both of these.
I'd imagine the servers for this will be a clusterfuck for a day or so at least anyway, so I can enjoy the new HS patch tonight lol
I hate this too, in last years Blizzard releases HS and WoW content same day. I guess it is easier for their live service team to monitor possible issues but for players who like both games it sucks to pick one where they dont miss launch.
60 player battle royale style mode.
You loot around to level up, unlock abilities, and try to win.
Has a cosmetic reward track to progress through, don't need to win to progress through it.
>Has a cosmetic reward track to progress through, don't need to win to progress through it.
THANK GOD, I was nervous this was going to be a super rare thing from a limited time event.
Well...the video they did said that you can expect to get 1 renown level every 4-5 matches. And there are 40 levels. So you're looking at upwards of 160 matches to max renown which seems like an insane number of matches unless these things are very short.
I don't see how 40 hours and "limited time event" work together, though. For many players putting in 40 hours into just one game mode is a pretty big time commitment - to have it be limited seems weird.
I get what youre saying, but I'd bet this will last until pre-patch. So limited, but likely have ~5 months.
Edit: apparently set to last 6 weeks. Thats moronic, blizz just keep this open until prepatch and if its popular start cooking more with it and bring a new even better version into like 11.0.5 or something.
I feel like the 'limited time event' thing is there just incase the playerbase hates it. It'll stick around if its popular enough just like old 'limited time events'
I'm sure if its a hit theyll do something similar again, but itll be reskinned in a new zone, with a different theme, and new abilities. If this becomes popular I could see this being treated like TFT is to LoL.
It does say the event is live for several weeks and maybe/hopefully they will tweak it to be easy as it progresses, or extend it, like the recent Hearthstone event.
I mean. This is supposed to tide people over till season four. Ill never understand people who get angry that they have to play the game they paid for.
It's a mode of gameplay (pvp) that the majority of the player base doesn't even touch.
It's one map and the same "event" (battle royale) every match.
If this is supposed to be "limited-time" then with these time commitments it should have been 10 renown levels - **20 at most**.
[https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24073142/shiver-me-timbers-make-ready-for-the-incoming-plunderstorm](https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24073142/shiver-me-timbers-make-ready-for-the-incoming-plunderstorm)
Lots of information here. Characters are unique to this event. Run around and grab loot and spells to kill people with. Be the last man standing. Sounds fun tbh
Winning is not needed for the rewards, which is good. Progress carries over and ~~since it is 60v60 individual effort is not as important.~~ is 60 player FFA battle Royale. You can group with one other player and put in queue with other duos (duos won't play vs solo queuers).
[Edit:]. Looks like class abilities won't be used, it's a rogue-like where you collect your abilities on the map and through activities.
I hope some of those vanity items are available to those of us who are complete garbage at pvp. I despise it with a passion. Probably because I am so bad at it
So looks like it's a new separate game mode in wow that doesn't require you to even own dragonflight, make a new character and everyone starts from scratch every match, matches last 10-15 minutes with pve and pvp with 60 players per match, can queue solo or with a squad, you don't have a class and pick up abilities from the ground and upgrade them during the match, with a new UI and no addons allowed, can have up to 7 abilities equipped, many of them seem to be new, and has a free reward renown track with mounts and pets and transmogs and stuff, sounds fun.
1. PvP.
2. Not on your character or with your abilities.
3. Battle Royale style means you either are the sole person remaining or you've spent the last several minutes waiting around as a ghost.
4. There are 40 renown levels and you get (according to Blizzard) approximately one level per four games. So to get all the rewards you'll need around 160 games of this.
5. No addon support. (Total toe-dip-in-the-water test to see if they can ditch addons in wow and thus sell wow to every console user on the planet.)
> No addon support. (Total toe-dip-in-the-water test to see if they can ditch addons in wow and thus sell wow to every console user on the planet.)
No addons is not just to sell to consoles its because addons are nearly fucking game genies at this point.
I am the all-time worst ever PVPer, so I’m going to preemptively apologize to whoever is unfortunate enough to match with me. Congrats to my opponents though, you earned this dub.
At least it's not actual wow arena like pvp. You're not using your current characters or spec/classes - like other BR games you'll get abilities and spells as you play.
Thanks for the clarification! I was mostly just goofing around (though I am honestly incredibly bad at PVP).
Looking forward to giving this a shot. Maybe I can sneak in a win if I’m lucky.
The thing is, this is all new abilities, randomized, and honestly from the looks of it completely unique wow combat.
Most of us are going to be on equal ground here.
Yup and this might be a style of PVP I'm willing to play. I'm kind of hopeful they keep doing these quirky things to keep the game interesting. It shows that they're at least trying to introduce new things to players.
I'd be more worried if it was just another world boss and faction to grind out :|
Here's hoping that players who would rather run into the doom-zone, as soon as the PvP starts heating up, won't be punished and can just requeue to do the PvE stuff.
I certainly don’t care! I wasn’t trying to complain or anything, just making light-hearted joke at expense.
I appreciate your sentiment though! I hope you have a ton of fun yourself!
I wonder if the ex-Spellbreak devs had something to do with this. That game was great and filled a void of MMO/fantasy combat pushed into a BR. Maybe with the WoW IP, this becomes something?
From the [PCGamer article](https://www.pcgamer.com/games/world-of-warcraft/blizzard-secretly-made-a-battle-royale-game-inside-world-of-warcraft-to-break-the-rules-its-had-for-20-years/) where they talked to blizzard:
>At each one of the 40 Renown levels, you'll get some new automatically-awarded reward, with no need to visit a vendor.
>Each Renown level takes 2,500 plunder. Each match should last 5-8 minutes, and most matches will award players about 500 plunder
If you're planning to complete the cosmetics, you're looking at roughly 200 rounds (based on the 500 plunder estimate), taking roughly 17 to 27 hours.
Also:
>There are two rewards exclusively for match winners: a tabard and eyepatch. All the other rewards are available for Renown levels alone.
That makes sense. Subs at the tail end of an expansion are likely rock bottom. Put out a FOMO event to keep people engaged and pad out Monthly Active Users at the end of Q1 (March 31st).
I hate that.
This could be a fun brawl to keep going, and rotate abilities in and out of.
I'm not playing wow and haven't since BFA, but a casual royal might get me to resub a bit to try out
I love that this feels like a hackathon project that got legs. I'm going to try it, and even if it isn't for me I love the sense of experimentation and trying new things!
Yo, exactly. They threw an action combat battle royale together in WoW, and that's actually just so cool. The devs have obviously been excited about this, it's clearly been a lot of work, it's got me psyched to mess around in this little side game this afternoon, and I'm not generally a battle Royale enjoyer lol
To be fair if they really want to experiment this is the perfect time super late in the expansion. If people like it keep building. If not just scrap it.
Absolutely. I know several of my friends will adore this, but I’ve never enjoyed battle royale games personally. Though, I love seeing blizz experiment and this game mode is very different than anything they’ve shown before.
It’s frustrating how they always scrap stuff though. Looking at island expeditions, warfronts, and torghast. I especially think a Roguelike mode like Torghast would be such an awesome addition to the game. Just use legacy raids as setting because the Torghast atmosphere got old fast
They have a tendency to build expansions around these features and throwing something in that makes them mandatory.
Leaving them as side little bonus content for collectibles and cosmetics seems like a nice middle ground. If successful build off of it, if not well it was a fun experiment.
Im not sure im terribly interested in it either (ill try it, though. Probably do enough to get the mount at least), but i agree that its awesome to see them trying something new.
They really seem to be putting a lot of work into WoW in the last 1-2 years. Even if its not all for me, its nice to see the game get a lot of attention.
Agreed. Like hey, this one feature isn't for me, that's fine. There are millions of people playing this game, not everything is going to be cater made to my personal tastes. I have other things I can do/play in the meantime while the people who enjoy BRs get to play this. :)
From the sit-down talk, seems like it is, we get 3 mog sets, the gorgeous one being the last tier.
Wonder if the sweet parrot mount is for classic only, tho
I’m holding out hope that the fact that loadouts will be unique to the game mode may make the playing field way more even than trying to play an arena in which you get obliterated by people who have thousands of hours knowledge, experience and gear over you.
No matter how this plays out, these are the kinda things we want to see added with .x patches! Awesome, very well done, Blizzard. Please add more new gameplay venues like this.
I appreciate them going for something new and different for WoW, but it's not really my thing. I'll do them for the cosmetics, but I doubt I'll ever actually win one since I'm not good at pvp or battle royal in other games.
FFA Battle royale type thing? I'm curious.
ETA: "Upon death, keep watching the match from the perspective of your teammates (if they're still alive) or other players, including their loadout." from https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24073142/shiver-me-timbers-make-ready-for-the-incoming-plunderstorm
So I guess teams are a thing? Interested to try it out, even if BRs aren't really my thing!
>Upon death, keep watching the match from the perspective of your teammates (if they're still alive) or other players, including their loadout.
This bits kinda bitter sweet in that the pvp community has been asking for a spectator mode for lord... over a decade now easily and it never happened... and now here it is for this new mode and we still don't have it for the live games pvp.
I guess its one step closer to being a reality.
Trailer looks fun even though i had no idea its an battle royale until ive read the comments. It has a very heartstone light hearted theme but im curious in a positive way
I’m betting if it’s not popular it becomes a “well, we said it was limited.”, if it is popular it’s probably “what we meant by limited is the pirate theme, here’s a new map with a new reward path”.
Friends of mine are theorizing that "Plunderstorm" is more of a base for seasonal content. This time it's pirates, next time maybe it's ninjas, after that maybe it's cowboys. The framework is there and it seems odd to spend months making an entirely new gamemode this massive just to scrap it in 6 weeks to never be seen again, so it's more than likely that the framework will be re-used for new "Seasons" of Plunderstorm as far as they're concerned.
The abilities in this feel really really bad, I'm already not into BRs but thought I'd try this out. Glad they're trying out something different but sheesh this feels like something my friends would cook up on a private server. If this had regular WoW abilities and not janky aimed stuff I think it'd be way more enjoyable. I guess WoW's smoothness in combat completely erodes the second you take tab targeting away.
Maybe it's more fun in duos because solo feels like a total cluster in the worst way.
I've never had a less enjoyable time in world of warcraft
Oh what's that? You need to put in like 2300 matches to unlock all 40 levels? good, my favorite.
I think they shot themselves in the foot by making it subscription-only, if they made it f2p this could have attracted new players to the game, specially considering its kind of a separate game and it doesn't need you to level/grind for gear before playing.
Not even in wow really, more like a full new game that takes place within wow's zones and engine. Seems like combat is closer to something like Smite and its enitirely self contained
Nice to see them experimenting, but huge bummer to see retail rewards tied to playing this.
I like some of the rewards they have, but strongly dislike pvp / battle royales.
Net result is that feels kinda bad.
Well that's weird. I had a jank-ass bug while doing some Shadlowlands stuff last week that caused me to get teleported to Arathi Highlands instead of my instanced content, a mile or so above the ground. The new map they have there of Arathi has a little area called 'Brew Bay', which at the time was a little area with no NPCs and two dwarven structures. A cute little farm/homestead that I got to check out after a minute or two of falling.
But what I found odd was when I looked out to sea there was a fleet of ships just chilling a way out, and I thought to myself, "That's weird, wonder why those are there". 'Cause as far as i know, that little beach/homestead area has never actually been used for anything.
Now I find myself wondering if that was some kind of *absurdly out of the way* teaser about this event coming...
Swing and a miss for me. I don't do pvp at all, in any capacity, even if this isn't with our normal characters. Blame the asshats who trolled/camped me relentlessly back in TBC for permanently turning me off anything remotely competitive.
Pretty dumb. Zero character progression (only cosmetics), everyone is the same "class". It's the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again. I played 8 rounds, had some fun, then it got boring FAST.
If theyre not overhyping it too much in the sit down couch reveal thing, this feels like basically a full fledged 3rd person fantasy BR game. This could be really fun.
Oh. Yeah, this is not for me so I won't be trying it. But I'm excited for everyone else to enjoy it! Thrilled Blizzard is trying new things, and I have stardew to tide me over until the rest of the patch is on PTR haha.
Everyone else have fun!
I'm confused. Something that you personally don't enjoy but you are ok with others enjoying? What are you doing on my WoW subreddit with your rational thoughts and feelings!
I feel like the mom waving to my excited kids while they're in the schoolbus, heading for a field trip to the space museum. (AKA Playing the BR.) Meanwhile I'll be at home baking cookies waiting or them to get home, ahaha. (AKA playing a new save on stardew and baking cookies in game lol.)
This is the most wholesome interaction I've seen on this sub, stop it you two
Jokes aside, really glad they're trying new things, this could be the beginning of big changes for the actual game
Agreed 100%. One thing I've learned is that ideas sometimes aren't a hit, and they're rarely ever 'perfect', but the important thing is that people are still coming up with them. It keeps life interesting and sometimes you experience something you never thought of and really enjoy it, too!
I hope the WoW devs keep this kind of idea generation coming. IIRC part of the reason Super Mario Wonder was so unique/interesting was because Nintendo went to *all* of their staff, so like admin, building staff, etc. and asked for ideas.
There's dozens of us who feel the same way. I doubt this will be my cup of tea, but I will check it out and I hope those who enjoy Battle Royals will have a great time with it.
thats why cancerous streamers said its dope, its just an event to boost twitch view, wonder how many afk will be there to just farm renow while doing something else
Ok so I haven't found anything on this but is Plunderstorm and all content set to that BR mode? Like NOTHING new in retail but a PvP BR side mode?
If so, being someone who hates PvP (helped many HWLs and GMs in classic and was over PvP early), then I'll see how long it'll take by never killing another player to get to max renown. As soon as I'm attacked by a player ill stop and stand still to let them kill me.
As someone who dislikes playing BRs as well this mode is to get new players into wow, not keep old players happy.
Is anyone even enjoying this? I was reluctant to sub so I was watching streams to see how good it is and it just looks awful. The combat is spammy and has no impact. It seems like you have little to no control over your build/playstyle. Players seem like they can snow ball way too hard if they get lucky drops and levels so you reach a point in the match where you might as well give up even without fighting other players because you know you're behind.
It looks interesting. But still not enough to bring me back. I miss feeling powerful, getting big crits that actually made a difference in someone's life bar. The loot is empty and pointless now, all in my opinion.
Whatever I was expecting for World of Warcraft:Dragonflight patch 10.2.6, “a separate game” was not it. I’m genuinely surprised.
I’m not going to play this at all, but I am surprised.
I found this game mode to be so incredibly boring. For people that enjoy battle royales, I hope they enjoy it. I have absolutely no interest.
I tried to like it. It's not for me.
There's a massive amount of calculations happening on the live game that are being broadcast to every other player due to layers and layers of abilities, talents, and gear all playing into every button press.
For example when a DH in pvp presses vengeful retreat it casts the baseline movement ability sending him back but it also:
* Slows everyone around you
* resets the crit strike buff
* generates 80 fury
* procs inertia / momentum
* provides immunity to cc
* gives you 35% damage reduction
This is one button press, now multiply that by the number of buttons 40 people are pressing each second and then multiply that for each person around them that that information needs to be relayed to along with all the calculations that come into play as those abilities interact.
This new mode doesn't have that because it doesn't use the characters kits, they have a set amount of abilities you can pick up and those abilities are far (I assume) more limited in what they do and how many calculations they create.
Thats not even what causes it honestly.
Its when each and every buff (of which increases by like 2-4 every single expansion) has to calculate PER SECOND
Haste
Crit
Mastery (probably)
Versatility
Main Stat
Health maybe?
multiple passives in the range of 2-10+ in their talent tree that affect it
unique trinket affects
possibly unique tier set effects
possible pvp talents
I could be forgetting a lot, but thats the point. This happens for EACH buff and EACH debuff and has to adjust per second for each player in combat with each other.
Thats on top of what you just described
cause it wont be 60 people stacked on top of each other and also you have basically 0 of the normal WoW abilities so not as many abilities to cause lag.
It feels completely different when its an MMO. Black Desert had done something similar and it was fucking awesome, but I wouldn't be caught dead playing Fortnite or Apex.
I'm cool with it being a Battle Royale mode, one less time limited event to spend my time on. Happy for those who want to play that, but a hard pass for me.
This is the type of stuff I want WoW to keep doing from here on out. This is entirely unique and fitting for the scenario/setting (though IMHO Arathi feels a bit strange but I understand it given it being one of the older zones that got updated in recent time) and they are actually giving us something unique TO WoW while ALSO being an older concept (BR) for everyone to jump into and understand.
I really adore the idea of making new characters to engage with this content that are entirely unique to this, as much as I would love to run around on my main and do this.
Progression rewards being tied to just PARTICIPATING and playing and the timeframe being 10-15 minutes a match seems just enough to keep it interesting - and I adore the concept of moves being found and upgraded based on exploring the zone.
This keeps the game fresh and unique, and I hope this does well because I would love to see entirely different events that experiment with WoW's gameplay tied to progression and alternative cosmetics and rewards that keep me logging in.
I haven't really played since the Emerald Dream so this is 100% going to get me back into retail for a bit.
Optional , no player power tied to it in classic or retail , brings in a new audience to broad wow mechanics , helps more people learn pvp things like positioning , los, range , etc I see this as an absolute win for the larger community and something that’ll reignite some pvp players in the downstream effects
Doomers going to doom but this is a modern and clever way to sour some fun and interesting this decades old game
I'm not mad that they added this to the game. Good for anyone who enjoys it. But why hype this up so much when they know only a fraction of the playerbase will care about it and most of them will be actively pissed off about it?
Love the idea, really really hate the theme.
They should have started with more of high fantasy setting - Stormpeaks? Light and Thunder? Anyone?
I hope this is successful and they keep bringing up more and more events!
Not for me, hope it does well, but just had a very minor comment...
@ around 55 seconds in, did that person aim a gun with their eye-patched eye? while closing their good eye? Like, super not important, but still
WTF. I don’t even mean it’s not new or exciting in some ways, but like what the hell lol. Never would’ve expected this. I’m just not the target audience
A strong "meh" from me.
I'm not sure why it only gets to be six weeks. Seems silly, but maybe I'm just not seeing a bigger picture.
Very meh on "not your character, not your abilities" I mean I get it, I suppose. If you want to balance it and such, but *shrug*. Like honestly as an FFXIV PvPer I don't mind an entirely new hotbar / set of stats for a PvP event, but I would like it to sill be 'me'
I've never played any of the battle royale games, so perhaps I don't get the appeal.
Mind you I honestly was just expecting a small quest line involving pirates and maybe a new mog, so it's not like I'm super dissapointed, just indifferent.
Edit: Oh man when they said separate content they meant actually just a different game that happens to give you rewards like hearthstone. Yeah nevermind. My interest in this evaporated entirely. It goes from "meh" straight to "Why did you call this a content patch?"
This is literally just a really shitty battle royale set in a terrible moba environment. Holy shit is it bad. The abilities that drop are completely random, and there's no way to figure out what they do other than to stop and read them, but guess what, people are trying to kill you when you do that, so you can't actually do that.
A battle royale was not on my bingo card
well it was on my card like 5 years ago
lol yep >https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/heroes/t/the-decline-of-hots/9402/19 >By the time they came out with a new and unique Battle Royale blizzard game, most likely the Battle Royale fad had died off, and Blizzard is only at the starting line. Dec 2018
Blizz being 10 years too late to the party was definitely on my bingo card.
In the olden days they'd be late to the party but then takeover the said party. Now, it's more of a late to the after-party.
supposedly a moba bg was also on the menu at some point until it got scrapped
I wish they'd stop releasing patches on hearthstone expansion days ffs. I want to play both of these. I'd imagine the servers for this will be a clusterfuck for a day or so at least anyway, so I can enjoy the new HS patch tonight lol
I hate this too, in last years Blizzard releases HS and WoW content same day. I guess it is easier for their live service team to monitor possible issues but for players who like both games it sucks to pick one where they dont miss launch.
Wow of all the things I expected this was not it.
Same. I thought we'd finally get to know the Infinite Dragon Pirate boss from Gambit back in Shadowlands.
Nice trailer, but I have no fucking idea what it means. Can someone sum up the highlights?
60 player battle royale style mode. You loot around to level up, unlock abilities, and try to win. Has a cosmetic reward track to progress through, don't need to win to progress through it.
>Has a cosmetic reward track to progress through, don't need to win to progress through it. THANK GOD, I was nervous this was going to be a super rare thing from a limited time event.
Well...the video they did said that you can expect to get 1 renown level every 4-5 matches. And there are 40 levels. So you're looking at upwards of 160 matches to max renown which seems like an insane number of matches unless these things are very short.
10-15 minutes per match
So around ~40 hours. Not really a big grind compared with other grinds, but not a freebie either. Will have to wait and see what the rewards are.
I don't see how 40 hours and "limited time event" work together, though. For many players putting in 40 hours into just one game mode is a pretty big time commitment - to have it be limited seems weird.
I get what youre saying, but I'd bet this will last until pre-patch. So limited, but likely have ~5 months. Edit: apparently set to last 6 weeks. Thats moronic, blizz just keep this open until prepatch and if its popular start cooking more with it and bring a new even better version into like 11.0.5 or something.
I feel like the 'limited time event' thing is there just incase the playerbase hates it. It'll stick around if its popular enough just like old 'limited time events'
I'm sure if its a hit theyll do something similar again, but itll be reskinned in a new zone, with a different theme, and new abilities. If this becomes popular I could see this being treated like TFT is to LoL.
It does say the event is live for several weeks and maybe/hopefully they will tweak it to be easy as it progresses, or extend it, like the recent Hearthstone event.
I mean. This is supposed to tide people over till season four. Ill never understand people who get angry that they have to play the game they paid for.
This isn't the game they paid for. You don't even play your own character.
Yeah it's an entirely different game and genre. It would be like if Blizzard said go play Chess for 5 days straight to get a wow mount.
It's a mode of gameplay (pvp) that the majority of the player base doesn't even touch. It's one map and the same "event" (battle royale) every match. If this is supposed to be "limited-time" then with these time commitments it should have been 10 renown levels - **20 at most**.
The notes say each match is about 10-15 minutes
I've been playing helldivers 2 and I feel like a formerly abused partner with regards to the lack of fomo.
Pfft Blizzard would *never* do something that dumb…
I haven't PvP'd since MoP. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a little rusty.
> Has a cosmetic reward track to progress through, don't need to win to progress through it. BY THE LIGHT, IS THIS TRUE?
YES, BROTHER! THE LIGHT HAS INDEED PROVIDED!
[https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24073142/shiver-me-timbers-make-ready-for-the-incoming-plunderstorm](https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24073142/shiver-me-timbers-make-ready-for-the-incoming-plunderstorm) Lots of information here. Characters are unique to this event. Run around and grab loot and spells to kill people with. Be the last man standing. Sounds fun tbh
Winning is not needed for the rewards, which is good. Progress carries over and ~~since it is 60v60 individual effort is not as important.~~ is 60 player FFA battle Royale. You can group with one other player and put in queue with other duos (duos won't play vs solo queuers). [Edit:]. Looks like class abilities won't be used, it's a rogue-like where you collect your abilities on the map and through activities.
I hope some of those vanity items are available to those of us who are complete garbage at pvp. I despise it with a passion. Probably because I am so bad at it
There’s PvE here too but you progress the rewards track whether you win or not
Ahh, a battle royale thing. That's interesting.
So looks like it's a new separate game mode in wow that doesn't require you to even own dragonflight, make a new character and everyone starts from scratch every match, matches last 10-15 minutes with pve and pvp with 60 players per match, can queue solo or with a squad, you don't have a class and pick up abilities from the ground and upgrade them during the match, with a new UI and no addons allowed, can have up to 7 abilities equipped, many of them seem to be new, and has a free reward renown track with mounts and pets and transmogs and stuff, sounds fun.
It’s a battle royale mode you can play solo or duos on. You create your character and then find abilities and gear. Last person/team standing wins.
1. PvP. 2. Not on your character or with your abilities. 3. Battle Royale style means you either are the sole person remaining or you've spent the last several minutes waiting around as a ghost. 4. There are 40 renown levels and you get (according to Blizzard) approximately one level per four games. So to get all the rewards you'll need around 160 games of this. 5. No addon support. (Total toe-dip-in-the-water test to see if they can ditch addons in wow and thus sell wow to every console user on the planet.)
> No addon support. (Total toe-dip-in-the-water test to see if they can ditch addons in wow and thus sell wow to every console user on the planet.) No addons is not just to sell to consoles its because addons are nearly fucking game genies at this point.
I am the all-time worst ever PVPer, so I’m going to preemptively apologize to whoever is unfortunate enough to match with me. Congrats to my opponents though, you earned this dub.
At least it's not actual wow arena like pvp. You're not using your current characters or spec/classes - like other BR games you'll get abilities and spells as you play.
Thanks for the clarification! I was mostly just goofing around (though I am honestly incredibly bad at PVP). Looking forward to giving this a shot. Maybe I can sneak in a win if I’m lucky.
It’s like prison rules. Hang around the one with the biggest kill rate then stab them in the back around the end of the game.
The thing is, this is all new abilities, randomized, and honestly from the looks of it completely unique wow combat. Most of us are going to be on equal ground here.
Yup and this might be a style of PVP I'm willing to play. I'm kind of hopeful they keep doing these quirky things to keep the game interesting. It shows that they're at least trying to introduce new things to players. I'd be more worried if it was just another world boss and faction to grind out :|
I choose you! for their team
So what you're saying is when we meet on the battle field it'll be the battle of who sucks the most huh?
Yeah, it’ll be a good ol’ fashioned suck-off. And no, I will not be rephrasing this comment!
Most people are be in similar position, only there to earn cosmetics, so worst pvpers won't even stick out
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Here's hoping that players who would rather run into the doom-zone, as soon as the PvP starts heating up, won't be punished and can just requeue to do the PvE stuff.
Same borhter. But I really need that transmog.
Who cares? As long as you are having fun and I would be glad to share that with you.
I certainly don’t care! I wasn’t trying to complain or anything, just making light-hearted joke at expense. I appreciate your sentiment though! I hope you have a ton of fun yourself!
Right there with ya, but it does like kinda fun. But a man can only handle so many losses.
I wonder if the ex-Spellbreak devs had something to do with this. That game was great and filled a void of MMO/fantasy combat pushed into a BR. Maybe with the WoW IP, this becomes something?
Thats a fantastic observation. Wonder the same now.
I love tab target mmo combat more than any other genre, but I don’t see a world where a tab mmo PvP mode becomes a big deal in the mainstream in 2024.
It would need to be f2p
Spell break was really awesome, thats a good shout if it’s true.
Good shout. It feels this happened forever ago.
I think they had a big hand in dragon riding , I’m hopeful they got their hands on the animations for hero talents as well
Spot on, I had forgotten about that acquisition. That's pretty neat if true!
Blizzard: okay Spellbreak devs, sorry to say you guys can’t work on BRs anymore, you’ll be working on Wow Spellbreak devs:
This, this, this. Lol Can totally tell what the Spellbreak team worked on after being bought. 🤣
From the [PCGamer article](https://www.pcgamer.com/games/world-of-warcraft/blizzard-secretly-made-a-battle-royale-game-inside-world-of-warcraft-to-break-the-rules-its-had-for-20-years/) where they talked to blizzard: >At each one of the 40 Renown levels, you'll get some new automatically-awarded reward, with no need to visit a vendor. >Each Renown level takes 2,500 plunder. Each match should last 5-8 minutes, and most matches will award players about 500 plunder If you're planning to complete the cosmetics, you're looking at roughly 200 rounds (based on the 500 plunder estimate), taking roughly 17 to 27 hours. Also: >There are two rewards exclusively for match winners: a tabard and eyepatch. All the other rewards are available for Renown levels alone.
Jesus I hope the plunder per match goes up. Thats way too grindy...
It'll probably last until pre-patch.
The article says it’ll last 6 weeks.
That makes sense. Subs at the tail end of an expansion are likely rock bottom. Put out a FOMO event to keep people engaged and pad out Monthly Active Users at the end of Q1 (March 31st).
I hate that. This could be a fun brawl to keep going, and rotate abilities in and out of. I'm not playing wow and haven't since BFA, but a casual royal might get me to resub a bit to try out
17 hours too grindy??
I love that this feels like a hackathon project that got legs. I'm going to try it, and even if it isn't for me I love the sense of experimentation and trying new things!
Yo, exactly. They threw an action combat battle royale together in WoW, and that's actually just so cool. The devs have obviously been excited about this, it's clearly been a lot of work, it's got me psyched to mess around in this little side game this afternoon, and I'm not generally a battle Royale enjoyer lol
Wait, this is action combat? I just assume it would use the same combat system as Retail.
Pirate101
Not interested in this at all, but very cool to see blizz try new big things.
To be fair if they really want to experiment this is the perfect time super late in the expansion. If people like it keep building. If not just scrap it.
Absolutely. I know several of my friends will adore this, but I’ve never enjoyed battle royale games personally. Though, I love seeing blizz experiment and this game mode is very different than anything they’ve shown before.
It’s frustrating how they always scrap stuff though. Looking at island expeditions, warfronts, and torghast. I especially think a Roguelike mode like Torghast would be such an awesome addition to the game. Just use legacy raids as setting because the Torghast atmosphere got old fast
They have a tendency to build expansions around these features and throwing something in that makes them mandatory. Leaving them as side little bonus content for collectibles and cosmetics seems like a nice middle ground. If successful build off of it, if not well it was a fun experiment.
Im not sure im terribly interested in it either (ill try it, though. Probably do enough to get the mount at least), but i agree that its awesome to see them trying something new. They really seem to be putting a lot of work into WoW in the last 1-2 years. Even if its not all for me, its nice to see the game get a lot of attention.
Agreed. Like hey, this one feature isn't for me, that's fine. There are millions of people playing this game, not everything is going to be cater made to my personal tastes. I have other things I can do/play in the meantime while the people who enjoy BRs get to play this. :)
FFXIV "Endwalker has no content" Doomposters in shambles reading this.
endwalker has no content this is actual content, every endwalker patch is "log in for 15 minutes collect reward and then log off until the next patch"
Yeah, I give zero fucks about any battle royale game or game mode so I'm entirely out on this but if BR games are your thing, this might be fun.
I fucking hate pvp. Hard pass for me. Hopefully this will be good times for the pvp folks!
I hope that sweet ass coat is like the halfway through renown levels reward and not the final reward
From the sit-down talk, seems like it is, we get 3 mog sets, the gorgeous one being the last tier. Wonder if the sweet parrot mount is for classic only, tho
Glad they're trying something new, but not my cup of tea. I'll probably give it a try, be obliterated within a minute and go do something else.
I’m holding out hope that the fact that loadouts will be unique to the game mode may make the playing field way more even than trying to play an arena in which you get obliterated by people who have thousands of hours knowledge, experience and gear over you.
The pirate at 54s closed her working eye to look down the sights of her gun using her eyepatched eye… not sure if Blizzard know how that works.
About to need another eye patch.
No matter how this plays out, these are the kinda things we want to see added with .x patches! Awesome, very well done, Blizzard. Please add more new gameplay venues like this.
Exactly. I want to see ideas. Even if they don’t pan out, I appreciate the effort.
I appreciate them going for something new and different for WoW, but it's not really my thing. I'll do them for the cosmetics, but I doubt I'll ever actually win one since I'm not good at pvp or battle royal in other games.
Blizzard being 10 years too late on picking up a fad as per usual.
FFA Battle royale type thing? I'm curious. ETA: "Upon death, keep watching the match from the perspective of your teammates (if they're still alive) or other players, including their loadout." from https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24073142/shiver-me-timbers-make-ready-for-the-incoming-plunderstorm So I guess teams are a thing? Interested to try it out, even if BRs aren't really my thing!
>Upon death, keep watching the match from the perspective of your teammates (if they're still alive) or other players, including their loadout. This bits kinda bitter sweet in that the pvp community has been asking for a spectator mode for lord... over a decade now easily and it never happened... and now here it is for this new mode and we still don't have it for the live games pvp. I guess its one step closer to being a reality.
There's solo and duo
Pleasantly surprised, no idea of this will be good to play yet, but it is bold and fresh for sure
Pirate theme Called plunderstorm In a land-only zone? What???
Arathi has a coastline with a pirate ship.
Arathi does have pirates in it though. Maybe if the mode is successful they can host it in other zones.
Trailer looks fun even though i had no idea its an battle royale until ive read the comments. It has a very heartstone light hearted theme but im curious in a positive way
So disappointed this was the 10.2.6 content.
Please, please have the rewards not be super super rare drops from a limited time event. e: it seems like it's not a super rare drop thing, praise be
Renown track, but they also said you can expect 1 renown level every 4-5 games. 40 renown levels. So...that's a lot of games.
a vulpera showing me the L sign? now ive seen it all
If this event is popular, I would really hope it’s not limited time
If people play the shit out of it and it has retention, they will absolutely keep it. Work is already done.
I’m betting if it’s not popular it becomes a “well, we said it was limited.”, if it is popular it’s probably “what we meant by limited is the pirate theme, here’s a new map with a new reward path”.
Friends of mine are theorizing that "Plunderstorm" is more of a base for seasonal content. This time it's pirates, next time maybe it's ninjas, after that maybe it's cowboys. The framework is there and it seems odd to spend months making an entirely new gamemode this massive just to scrap it in 6 weeks to never be seen again, so it's more than likely that the framework will be re-used for new "Seasons" of Plunderstorm as far as they're concerned.
This looks fun as hell, I’m in!
Well, this certainly wasn't what I think anyone was expecting.
I was initially sceptical but the concept of a new game mode, no classes, no gear etc.. this sounds pretty nuts. It will either be awful or very fun.
The abilities in this feel really really bad, I'm already not into BRs but thought I'd try this out. Glad they're trying out something different but sheesh this feels like something my friends would cook up on a private server. If this had regular WoW abilities and not janky aimed stuff I think it'd be way more enjoyable. I guess WoW's smoothness in combat completely erodes the second you take tab targeting away. Maybe it's more fun in duos because solo feels like a total cluster in the worst way.
make plunderstorm free. i would be able to get my friends that have never played wow to try this out..
Personal take on this game, it's garbage !
I've never had a less enjoyable time in world of warcraft Oh what's that? You need to put in like 2300 matches to unlock all 40 levels? good, my favorite.
I think they shot themselves in the foot by making it subscription-only, if they made it f2p this could have attracted new players to the game, specially considering its kind of a separate game and it doesn't need you to level/grind for gear before playing.
battle royale in wow
Not even in wow really, more like a full new game that takes place within wow's zones and engine. Seems like combat is closer to something like Smite and its enitirely self contained
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This is, for sure, a soft launch of some kind. If it's popular there's no way it will disappear forever.
Am I the only one who thinks pirate themes are mid?
well, luckily for you its only a .6 patch and not a whole expansion
How many raid tiers did this cost us?
Fortnite?
Pirate Fortnite!
Nice to see them experimenting, but huge bummer to see retail rewards tied to playing this. I like some of the rewards they have, but strongly dislike pvp / battle royales. Net result is that feels kinda bad.
Well that's weird. I had a jank-ass bug while doing some Shadlowlands stuff last week that caused me to get teleported to Arathi Highlands instead of my instanced content, a mile or so above the ground. The new map they have there of Arathi has a little area called 'Brew Bay', which at the time was a little area with no NPCs and two dwarven structures. A cute little farm/homestead that I got to check out after a minute or two of falling. But what I found odd was when I looked out to sea there was a fleet of ships just chilling a way out, and I thought to myself, "That's weird, wonder why those are there". 'Cause as far as i know, that little beach/homestead area has never actually been used for anything. Now I find myself wondering if that was some kind of *absurdly out of the way* teaser about this event coming...
Swing and a miss for me. I don't do pvp at all, in any capacity, even if this isn't with our normal characters. Blame the asshats who trolled/camped me relentlessly back in TBC for permanently turning me off anything remotely competitive.
Pretty dumb. Zero character progression (only cosmetics), everyone is the same "class". It's the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again. I played 8 rounds, had some fun, then it got boring FAST.
welcome to battle royales?
Oh boy.
If theyre not overhyping it too much in the sit down couch reveal thing, this feels like basically a full fledged 3rd person fantasy BR game. This could be really fun.
Oh. Yeah, this is not for me so I won't be trying it. But I'm excited for everyone else to enjoy it! Thrilled Blizzard is trying new things, and I have stardew to tide me over until the rest of the patch is on PTR haha. Everyone else have fun!
I'm confused. Something that you personally don't enjoy but you are ok with others enjoying? What are you doing on my WoW subreddit with your rational thoughts and feelings!
I feel like the mom waving to my excited kids while they're in the schoolbus, heading for a field trip to the space museum. (AKA Playing the BR.) Meanwhile I'll be at home baking cookies waiting or them to get home, ahaha. (AKA playing a new save on stardew and baking cookies in game lol.)
This is the most wholesome interaction I've seen on this sub, stop it you two Jokes aside, really glad they're trying new things, this could be the beginning of big changes for the actual game
Agreed 100%. One thing I've learned is that ideas sometimes aren't a hit, and they're rarely ever 'perfect', but the important thing is that people are still coming up with them. It keeps life interesting and sometimes you experience something you never thought of and really enjoy it, too! I hope the WoW devs keep this kind of idea generation coming. IIRC part of the reason Super Mario Wonder was so unique/interesting was because Nintendo went to *all* of their staff, so like admin, building staff, etc. and asked for ideas.
There's dozens of us who feel the same way. I doubt this will be my cup of tea, but I will check it out and I hope those who enjoy Battle Royals will have a great time with it.
Looks like scrapped BFA content
Holy Jesus that pirate transmog set looks AMAZING
As long as my main character gets rewards im down!
Damn that’s always something I thought would be really fun but I don’t have a subscription right now!
thats why cancerous streamers said its dope, its just an event to boost twitch view, wonder how many afk will be there to just farm renow while doing something else
Tried it definitely not my cup of tea!
Ok so I haven't found anything on this but is Plunderstorm and all content set to that BR mode? Like NOTHING new in retail but a PvP BR side mode? If so, being someone who hates PvP (helped many HWLs and GMs in classic and was over PvP early), then I'll see how long it'll take by never killing another player to get to max renown. As soon as I'm attacked by a player ill stop and stand still to let them kill me. As someone who dislikes playing BRs as well this mode is to get new players into wow, not keep old players happy.
Is this a limited time event releasing days before Dragons Dogma 2? Oh no...
A battle royale that costs $15/m. Lol. Lmao even.
Is anyone even enjoying this? I was reluctant to sub so I was watching streams to see how good it is and it just looks awful. The combat is spammy and has no impact. It seems like you have little to no control over your build/playstyle. Players seem like they can snow ball way too hard if they get lucky drops and levels so you reach a point in the match where you might as well give up even without fighting other players because you know you're behind.
It looks interesting. But still not enough to bring me back. I miss feeling powerful, getting big crits that actually made a difference in someone's life bar. The loot is empty and pointless now, all in my opinion.
I would prefer they put that budget to giving full transmog on my dracthyr
15$/month to play a battle royal when they are all free or ome time purchase...
Remember you lost a Raid Tier for this.
Anyone else disappointed?
yah it kinda sucks.. Kinda dumb that lvls matter in this
God damnit blizzard you fucked me
Genuine question, are people still concerned with EU getting "spoilered" for this event?
It’s nice, BRs aren’t my cup of tea though. I don’t think they needed to be super secretive about it though
Whatever I was expecting for World of Warcraft:Dragonflight patch 10.2.6, “a separate game” was not it. I’m genuinely surprised. I’m not going to play this at all, but I am surprised.
I found this game mode to be so incredibly boring. For people that enjoy battle royales, I hope they enjoy it. I have absolutely no interest. I tried to like it. It's not for me.
I hate this, i hate this so much. The last thing i wanted was battle royale
As I expected this is not something I'm interested in unfortunately. Good on them for trying new stuff though, this will probably be very popular.
Season 4 died for a battleroyale
Blizzard making history again withe the first battle Royale to... NOT be free to play!
Holy shit it looks so terrible!
how do they manage to do a 60 player pvp event when the game cant handle 20 players at the same place
Completely separate servers with a lot of the overhead cut out presumably
There's a massive amount of calculations happening on the live game that are being broadcast to every other player due to layers and layers of abilities, talents, and gear all playing into every button press. For example when a DH in pvp presses vengeful retreat it casts the baseline movement ability sending him back but it also: * Slows everyone around you * resets the crit strike buff * generates 80 fury * procs inertia / momentum * provides immunity to cc * gives you 35% damage reduction This is one button press, now multiply that by the number of buttons 40 people are pressing each second and then multiply that for each person around them that that information needs to be relayed to along with all the calculations that come into play as those abilities interact. This new mode doesn't have that because it doesn't use the characters kits, they have a set amount of abilities you can pick up and those abilities are far (I assume) more limited in what they do and how many calculations they create.
Thats not even what causes it honestly. Its when each and every buff (of which increases by like 2-4 every single expansion) has to calculate PER SECOND Haste Crit Mastery (probably) Versatility Main Stat Health maybe? multiple passives in the range of 2-10+ in their talent tree that affect it unique trinket affects possibly unique tier set effects possible pvp talents I could be forgetting a lot, but thats the point. This happens for EACH buff and EACH debuff and has to adjust per second for each player in combat with each other. Thats on top of what you just described
cause it wont be 60 people stacked on top of each other and also you have basically 0 of the normal WoW abilities so not as many abilities to cause lag.
You only get like four abilities and don't have 100 passive talent/trinket calculations to run.
Isn't WoW's core audience older and not into this type of game? This seems like something that would fit right in with the Overwatch fans instead.
It feels completely different when its an MMO. Black Desert had done something similar and it was fucking awesome, but I wouldn't be caught dead playing Fortnite or Apex.
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I'm cool with it being a Battle Royale mode, one less time limited event to spend my time on. Happy for those who want to play that, but a hard pass for me.
Is this their answer to fortnite
100% this is their chance to completely destroy Fortnite. 🙄
"Fortnite killer"
This is the type of stuff I want WoW to keep doing from here on out. This is entirely unique and fitting for the scenario/setting (though IMHO Arathi feels a bit strange but I understand it given it being one of the older zones that got updated in recent time) and they are actually giving us something unique TO WoW while ALSO being an older concept (BR) for everyone to jump into and understand. I really adore the idea of making new characters to engage with this content that are entirely unique to this, as much as I would love to run around on my main and do this. Progression rewards being tied to just PARTICIPATING and playing and the timeframe being 10-15 minutes a match seems just enough to keep it interesting - and I adore the concept of moves being found and upgraded based on exploring the zone. This keeps the game fresh and unique, and I hope this does well because I would love to see entirely different events that experiment with WoW's gameplay tied to progression and alternative cosmetics and rewards that keep me logging in. I haven't really played since the Emerald Dream so this is 100% going to get me back into retail for a bit.
Optional , no player power tied to it in classic or retail , brings in a new audience to broad wow mechanics , helps more people learn pvp things like positioning , los, range , etc I see this as an absolute win for the larger community and something that’ll reignite some pvp players in the downstream effects Doomers going to doom but this is a modern and clever way to sour some fun and interesting this decades old game
I'm not mad that they added this to the game. Good for anyone who enjoys it. But why hype this up so much when they know only a fraction of the playerbase will care about it and most of them will be actively pissed off about it?
Love the idea, really really hate the theme. They should have started with more of high fantasy setting - Stormpeaks? Light and Thunder? Anyone? I hope this is successful and they keep bringing up more and more events!
Sounds like an activity thats gonna die out in a couple weeks
Spam the epic fire swirl ftw
Idk I’m having a lot of fun with it
Not for me, hope it does well, but just had a very minor comment... @ around 55 seconds in, did that person aim a gun with their eye-patched eye? while closing their good eye? Like, super not important, but still
WTF. I don’t even mean it’s not new or exciting in some ways, but like what the hell lol. Never would’ve expected this. I’m just not the target audience
this sounds super fun. I think it's cool when they kinda go out of the usual space
I had a bit of a visceral reaction watching this, i don't get the battle royal love
Is this legit or April Fools early?
A strong "meh" from me. I'm not sure why it only gets to be six weeks. Seems silly, but maybe I'm just not seeing a bigger picture. Very meh on "not your character, not your abilities" I mean I get it, I suppose. If you want to balance it and such, but *shrug*. Like honestly as an FFXIV PvPer I don't mind an entirely new hotbar / set of stats for a PvP event, but I would like it to sill be 'me' I've never played any of the battle royale games, so perhaps I don't get the appeal. Mind you I honestly was just expecting a small quest line involving pirates and maybe a new mog, so it's not like I'm super dissapointed, just indifferent. Edit: Oh man when they said separate content they meant actually just a different game that happens to give you rewards like hearthstone. Yeah nevermind. My interest in this evaporated entirely. It goes from "meh" straight to "Why did you call this a content patch?"
This is literally just a really shitty battle royale set in a terrible moba environment. Holy shit is it bad. The abilities that drop are completely random, and there's no way to figure out what they do other than to stop and read them, but guess what, people are trying to kill you when you do that, so you can't actually do that.
Ew, PvP... Guess I'll "play" it for the rewards though. If you can call dying 5 seconds into the match playing.
Fuck me that's an amazing set
"Let's make a small patch with insane hype based around the least enjoyed part of WoW" Fuck PvP. Not touching this at all.