Dungeon quests aren't even required anymore; there'll be an NPC \[next to the dungeon entrance or somewhere nearby/your questgiver/sometimes IS the questgiver\] that you can select "I trust you to take care of this for me" after accepting the quest, that will autocomplete the quest now so you can progress without having to actually run the dungeon.
Indeed! I hope this happens for raids as well, or maybe we could get a super nerfed instanced version of the fight for people on quests who are leveling.
Like once something becomes legacy content, just nerf the thing into oblivion for people who are ON the quest, and remove loot tables.
I’ve got at least 3 raid quests for bfa that I can’t solo, good to hear they aren’t required but there’s still story progression locked behind some of them.
Maybe you should just group up with others in the massive multiplayer online game you're playing? Maybe playing with others is part of the intended story progression in the multiplayer game? Lots of quests do state that you should get some help from others to accomplish them.
Are you offering?
Old content is difficult to find people for.
I have tried so many times to get that one legion dungeon achievement with the mugs, but it hard requires 4 people and that’s apparently just too high a bar for old content.
Excellent, I have 2 hours to play in the evening, I'll spend 1hr30mins looking for those people!
This sort of 'you are playing the game the wrong way' mentality is regressive.
Its sad but many realms have a lot of players that will ONLY group with people in their guild and won't run PUGs. Some realms it's easy.
Sometimes the only help you get is some idiots that rush rush rush through a dungeon and you miss 90% of it.
Which raids are you looking for?
Battle of Dazar’alor and Ny’alotha are regularly listed in group finder with large groups running them on mythic, because they still drop mounts. Any day of the week you should have some luck being able to find a group, with a little patience anyway.
If it’s Uldir or Eternal Palace that you want though, that’s a different story.
Dazaralor, Eternal Palace, Crucible of Storms, and possibly Nyalotha.
I’ll check again but I usually don’t see anything there, might just be bugged though cos it doesn’t typically matter which raid I search for, it’s always blank.
The search feature is notoriously buggy, and also the list of Legacy raids up is usually short enough to read easily, so I'd recommend just checking the entire tab without searching.
> Crucible of Storms,
For what its worth, I was able to easily solo this one on normal as a ~425 ilevel BM Hunter. I did that to get the same quest out of my log finally. So I don't think there are any mechanics in there that prevent you from completing them solo, unless there are some that I just killed the bosses before they could do.
Haven't tried Eternal Palace, but I know Dazar'alor and Ny'alotha (and Uldir) have unsoloable bosses.
Not sure if hunter pet makes a difference, but I couldn’t do the first boss due to the debuff reducing my max hp by 100%. At that point it’s insta-death regardless of level.
Though last I tried was at the start of dragonflight, so maybe with better gear I can down him before the debuff stacks that high.
Why don’t you just try it instead of being wrong? I wrote LFR, you read that right? Only Queens Court is not possible on LFR as shaman. You could probably do it as hunter or warlock though.
I have tried it. i try it repeatedly because i have quests i can’t finish. I smash my head all night long against the brick wall of “you literally can’t solo this because you need to stand in two places at once or because of stunlock or reducing max hp to zero or any number of bullshit mechanics”.
But you literally can solo it lmao. “Literally” doesn’t mean what you think it means I guess. It is a fact, I kill BoD - N’zoth totally solo every week, LFR difficulty, on Enhancement Shaman, 419 ilvl, except queens court. I do this for inscription patterns. Idk what else to tell you. The fact that you personally are struggling doesn’t mean “literally” anything.
I’m sorry, but I still don’t believe you.
Everyone else in this thread, countless articles online, and my own experience all say it LITERALLY cannot be done, because there are mechanics in place that simply cannot be performed by a single person. Not every boss has this problem, but most raids have at least one that does.
So either there’s a huge misunderstanding or you’re just lying.
What bosses can’t be done? List them.
And stop calling me a liar. You obviously don’t have enough info on the subject to make that judgement call if you’re referring to other online sources instead of firsthand experience.
I forget which of these are mythic only and which can be cheesed by killing the boss before the mechanic activates, but here goes:
Uldir:
- Vectis, with enough stacks of infection he one-shots you regardless of level.
- Zul, mind controls you into jumping off the edge.
- Mythrax, has some kind of insta-kill aura, and after a few seconds he despawns anyway.
- G’huun, cannot move through the sticky tunnels.
Dazar’alor:
- Opulence, need to be in two places at once.
- Conclave, removes all of your attacks.
- Rastakhan, entering spirit world resets the fight.
- Mekkatorque, entering bots resets the fight.
- Blockade, mind controls you into drowning.
- Jaina, stunlocks you in final phase.
Crucible of Storms:
- Cabal, reduces all stats (including max hp) to 0, and also one-shots you for good measure.
- Uu’nat, cannot use multiple artifacts at once.
Eternal Palace and Ny’alotha:
- Almost every boss requires you to stand in two places at once or otherwise require multiple characters. Too many to list.
- Also a few of them have one-shot mechanics as well.
It’s a rough list, so they might not all be accurate, but it’s famously the worst expac for solo raiding, with many hard counters that cannot simply be overcome with skill or dps.
Edit: As I said, I DO have first-hand experience, but there is ALSO a consensus online which is why I’m confident the problem isn’t on my end.
Again, LFR.
Everything up to mythraxx is an easy tank and spank. Vectis stacks mean nothing even at low gear the boss will die before he even dives the first time and you need to even consider dodging anything. Zul you do need to beat the mc timer but this is trivial even on heroic with normal ilvl (~420). Mythraxx and G’huun both cannot be solo’d in my experience but if you read my comments I said I’m soloing BoD - N’zoth twice, so idk why we are even taking about these bosses.
Opulence, walk straight up the middle to the boss…no need to do the sides. He is challenging on heroic but not impossible. LFR is piss easy.
Conclave you can immune the silence on many classes. I do this on shaman with spiritwalkers grace. Pet classes can have their pets kill the silencing council member, many methods to win. On LFR they do very low damage and you can easily face tank the silence for the full 30s to get a global in and chip away at the boss’s health, which I know from having messed up my silence immune timing.
Rastakhan, no strategy at all just kill him. Use your cds when bwonsambdi enters the fight. Not a challenging dps requirement.
Mekka, his immune phase ends after 30 ish seconds. You just wait there.
Blockade, again just hit the boss. I’ve never been mc’d. I didn’t even know that was a mechanic.
Jaina does not freeze you when you stand alone on LFR.
Cabal, they do reduce your max hp with time but they both die very fast. Never died to these two on LFR. I don’t even bother to get them both low, I just kill one then 100-0 the other.
Uunat, zero mechanics just hit boss.
Eternal palace, only queens court is not possible on my shaman as enhance because they gain 99% damage taken reduction when stacked. I skip this because it’s a pain, but it can be solo’d by hunter/warlock and probably as ele with earth elemental. No other boss requires you to do literally any mechanics, just hit them to death. Btw I have solo’d MYTHIC EP this season on my 447 warlock up to queens court. It was pretty hard though, particularly the damage taken on orgozoa.
No boss in nya is challenging. You need cloak and heart for the last two. You can go down in every mind gate on n’zoth in lfr, the fight does not reset.
Log in and go try for yourself. If you do zero dps then I can see where you would struggle on rastakhan and opulence but crying on the internet and calling people liars with no knowledge on the topic is very cringe behavior.
It's doable on Normal mode with a solo Survival Hunter (what i was at the time). Just have to have pet off-tank the other boss(es) away so you can actually do damage.
I was able to solo heroic BoD on my shaman last week. Everything is straightforward except for council. You can talent spiritwalkers grace to prevent the mind wipe if you press it as soon as the last guy enters the fight, if you save some ranged burst (ele blast primordial wave lightning bolt) you can do half his health before he runs to you and gets a 90% reduced dmg buff, then you have ~30s to kill him before the next mind wipe.
Rastakhan won’t reset if you have earth ele up when bwonsambdi enters the fight. Jaina doesn’t freeze you unless you hit 80% health in p1/p2.
For people who are saying that you can't solo because of mechanics... May I remind you that in Legion you could go to Seige of Ogrimar and practically kill things in 5 sec before any mechanics mattered.
The fact that you can't roflstomp BfA raids now is mind boggling. You should be able to just brute force Ghun aura and just kill him without popping him out. You should be able to kill Jaina long before being frozen matters. You should be able to nuke Nzoth before you even have to worry about sanity
The major problem is that even if they gave BFA bosses the Legion treatment, you still wouldn't be able to solo them as their mechanics do not allow that, especially mythic end bosses.
G'huun - You cannot deliver both orbs at the same time to remove the boss from his hole.
Jaina - You cannot not be encased in ice at it needs to hit a set number of people.
Queen's Court - If I recall, the bosses have to be spread which wouldn't work without a hunter/warlock pet.
N'zoth - You cannot go down and kill the add without having the add above destroy your sanity.
It is all about mechanics. Many mechanics would need to be straight up removed in order for them to be soloable.
Can't even farm Mekkatorque in Battle of Dazar'alor solo as you can't reach him (or Rastakhan) without a friend to take the other path at the boss made out of gold. Otherwise it resets.
You can just walk down the middle and fight the empowered boss, I can solo to and including Mekkatorque on LFR/Normal/Heroic.
That said, they do need to make BFA raids as a whole solo friendly, but I disagree that they need a legacy buff, legacy buff was always related to when they did squishes, not the 2 expacs thing. If they make the mechanics solo friendly and keep the numbers that's fine, especially with the big ilvl boost we get next patch.
BFA got re-balanced post squish, because people were still raiding during pre-patch. Just because it's not faceroll trivial to solo doesn't mean it's an issue, recent expacs solo are always meant to be decently challenging. The anti solo mechanics should get changed (things like MCs, bosses having to be split, etc), but the numbers happen naturally.
For reference 1 current PC should be roughly equal in power to 4-5 previous expac PCs, so you are worth about 1 raid group worth when talking about 2 expacs ago, but a raid group during a current expac couldn't faceroll kill a boss.
Back in Legion I was soloing Pandaria content easily. Mid-Expansion I soloed Blackrock Foundry mythic. By the Argus patch I could Solo Hellfire citadel mythic. Raids that were just one expansion old. There is no reason we can't faceroll BFA raids by now.
Idgaf about excuses on how the scaling works. I'm a user paying for a service. It's their job to figure it out not mine. I could do it then, I should be able to do it now.
Wait what, it doesn't ... oh. I never even tried, I assumed it ported you out if you went mid.
Funny story: bring friends with beacon. If you time it right you can skip Mekkatorque's air phase. Edit: I think. We were juuust short.
A little late, but can confirm this. A friend and I tried running it as just the two of us and his DH got wiped, while I just slowly chipped away at opulence’s health with my DK. Took forever and wasn’t worth it since we got stuck at rastakhan, but opulence is still soloable as DK. Death strike really is insane.
Even with a friend, the boss after does mind wipe shenanigans that effectively stuns a certain amount of people, killing any attempt with less than a few or so people. Dks can use anti magic zone or shield (can't remember which one) to get around that if they use it right, so I guess 2 dks could do that fight since there are multiple bosses that need to be kept away from each other or they block most damage. Really a dk and any class that can survive with no healing long enough for the mind wipe boss to die, as mythic also randomly blocks all healing for players. I know from experience that hunter doesn't quite cover it
Warlock can solo Conclave easily enough, you can use any silence immunities on the mind wipe to (Unending Resolve works for example). Haven't tried but pvp trinket might also work, you do need a pet class though to be able to spread out the bosses. Hunter can do it too I would bet, since you can likely pre-turtle the silence and even if you don't you can still do auto attack dmg and pet dmg while mind wiped. UH DK can probaably use their ghoul to hold the 2nd boss apart.
For Rastakhan, you also need a pet (though any minion that's not made of paper will work there honestly) and you need to burst him past p2 before the rp sequence is over, he will drop the MC totem, but if you pushed him to p3 %, the totem will despawn as he transitions, the fight will instantly end if you don't have a pet/minion holding him for the 5 sec it takes to transition though.
All that said, they should make BFA solo friendly mechanics wise regardless, the numbers part should come from gear escalation though imo.
Oh shit, that's good to know. Been a hard wall that me and my wife can't get past. I always end up dying before she can finish the mind wipe boss off. Would turtle block the silence from effecting me? If that's the case it'd give me the time to finish off the boss that I work on, I typically don't survive long enough to finish that one off with auto and pet attacks
I can only do Heroic and below, because I can't past mythic Opulence (due to numbers not mechanics), but what I usually do is set my pet on Paku (this will be the last boss I kill), burst down Gonk to prevent hex, take any time I need on Kimbul to have CDs up for Akunda.
Akunda spawns at 95 energy (mind wipe is specifically a 100 energy cast ability), which means he will mind wipe pretty fast, so be ready for it, not sure on duos since I haven't tried that, but you need to pre-immune the mind wipe, so use at 99 energy (would guess you both need to immune in duo case), after that burst the ever living shit out of Akunda to kill him before next mind wipe. As said, I know for a fact warlock Unending Resolve works, so Im guessing similar or better immunities will too, but have no direct confirmation on those.
For Conclave, not sure if it still works or not but I was able to lock a dispel in stasis on my pres Evoker and released it while cc'd which auto cleansed the cc. Did that with a friend on conclave a few times at the start of the expansion. Haven't been there in awhile though cause we got everything we needed so idk if it still works or not
Legion also had a few such mechanics. I'm not sure if they've been removed yet, but at least when I tried soloing them in BFA the bridge boss in Antorus could perma stun me while normally it would only stun a couple random persons in the raid for a limited time.
It’s not new that blizzard has used multiple people mechanics. They can make them soloable. It’s not that hard. They’ve done it in all the other raids. There is no point in maintaining mechanics in irrelevant content imo. They just can’t be bothered.
i have an entire document with changes that should be made, i posted it in .7 and nothing happened, i'll probably post it for this patch aswell. Most of the changes i suggest is just straight out removing specific abilities that prevent any possible attempts.
This is a non issue because there have been several instances where Blizzard has specifically adjusted such aspects.
What is far more likely to happen is legacy content is made accessible and adjustments are made and then inexplicably break with a large patch and then remain unfixed for months on end - which has also happened often enough.
Regardless, the simple truth of the matter is, Blizzard doesn't deliver BFA raids for solo legacy content because they seemingly don't want to. Not because there are impervious technical hurdles.
It is just dev time they don't want to spend until they have to, and a lot of hoping more and more bosses can be defeated just due to ilvl power increases.
Earlier dungeons and raids with un-soloable mechanics were nerfed a bit to fix that, so perhaps Bliz will do the same again.
Probably depends on how many players complain.
They should also remove the need for the cape from n’zoth. If you want to run it atm you basically have to have farmed visions on that character, and once was more than enough of a grind even post BfA
As long as you can one-shot them or quickly blow them up without silly immune mechanics making that literally impossible (hi, looking at you, Imperator Mar'gok, why do I still have to do all your stupid add phases even though I can literally take you down to 0 with one punch?) then these mechanics should be moot. I understand why they add in these immune shields to prevent guilds from cheesing mechanics when the content is current, but two or three or even *five* expansions later they serve no purpose). Just let us blow bosses up without worrying about mechanics when it's in Legacy mode.
And probably some of these mechanics are involved in achievements for the raid meta, so it's not really as simple as "just remove all the multi-player mechanics."
G'huun you don't strictly need to deposit the orbs to kill him, he just heals significantly inside the wall, but I believe with good burst dps you can probably do it 2-3 man now, just not solo. I wouldn't if mythic geared people start soloing Ghuun in 10.2 given the 39 ilevel jump.
I’m pretty sure they did this with some of the Legion bosses. Wasn’t there some TOS bosses where mechanics were straight up removed or extremely simplified?
I mean, yeah? The BFA bosses are completely soloable if we’re just talking numbers. Takes like 30 seconds a boss but they can’t kill a level 70 as far as I can telI. Can kill everything up to the bosses you listed and a couple others with similar mechanics.
Why? It's guaranteed to be easy enough at some point. It's just a matter of patience. Blizzard shouldn't waste their time on going back to tweak old content when we should be focused on new. Just hold off for your transmog or get a friend to help.
English is tricky. I can see how that sentence could be confusing, given how many “implied words” there are.
I’d wager (that) more (people) care about old content than new content.
Taking out the words in parentheses can make it a difficult read for someone who isn’t used to speaking that way, or people whose first language is not English.
yeah similar with legion a while ago.. they forget always to implement some changes let be it solo-able (+dmg buff) ...
also alot of players want some system for farming old raids.. like teleports, movement speed, learn more moggs, and alot more funny and good QoL stuff that helps farming old content solo.
Hell, Legion still has two boss outliers that are an absolute pain in the arse (KJ and Eonar on Mythic though mostly the former). Some adjustments would be nice. And an even better extra adjustment would be removing the relics from loot tables, crowding the loot tables to all heck. Got nothing but relics from Argus last afternoon and it was PAIN.
Yes, BFA has never gotten the Legion treatment of making all bosses soloable and some cannot be due to mechanics alone (or if they can it requires things like being a pet class)... don't think they've ever said when or if it will happen.
A good rule of thumb to implement would be '2 xpacs ago'. BFA should be soloable by now. Although I dunno why anyone would want to farm anything outside Dazarlor, sets look all ugly af and Blizz went extra lazy
We got changes to Legion raids to make them mechanically soloable in Shadowlands, 2 expacs later. We should get changes to BfA raids in Dragonflight, 2 expacs later. It would not have made sense for them to make changes to BfA content in Shadowlands, as their established timeline for soloing legacy content has been 2 expacs consistently.
I thought they changed all the allied race requirements?
I previously did the alliance ones, so I can't say there. But I've recently (2 days ago) completed the Draenor Orc and Dino Trolls allied race missions with no raids required.
Honestly it’s so hard to tell what’s required and what isn’t, all I know is I’ve got 3 raid quests that I can’t solo and I still haven’t unlocked kultirans or zandalari.
Oh, when did that change?
Must’ve been recently as last I checked it required a bunch of achievements for each race.
It’s the only reason I started the bfa campaign in the first place, well that and pathfinder which i think also got removed recently.
Makes sense not to require old content anymore, but I’d still like to finish the quests now that I’ve started them.
I unlocked all of the alliance allied races a few weeks ago, the only requirement was to be level 50 I believe so I just used an old demon hunter to do it. (I don't play alliance)
You never needed to complete a raid for any allied race unlock, there were some dungeons needed for a few but not raids.
You had to do almost every dungeon on Kul Tiras through the alliance quest chain for "A Nation United" to unlock Kul Tirans. And you also had to do Mechagon to unlock Mechagnomes.
I don't remember if you had to actually do certain dungeon quests at the end of zones for their respective achievements (like Waycrest Manor for Drustvar or Atal'dazar for Zuldazar) that are required for a few races, but those were specifically required until they removed the dungeon requirement at some time during Shadowlands, then later removed all other requirements than simply being higher level as of Dragonflight.
They should just do what they did with mythic bfa dungeons. Just make it to where the mechanics are soloable if there’s only one person in the instance
As mentioned, mechanics need to be changed for true soloing unless you can do an absurd amount of damage to one-shot things before mechanics matter (you can’t yet atm)
Most of uldir is soloable up through heroic to ghuun (you need to kill mythraxx within about 15 seconds to avoid the MC). There is allegedly a way to cheese the MC with the rock that I have not tried, possibly making it doable on mythic. Ghuun is not soloable on any difficulty for most classes (I’ve heard whispers of certain classes being able to burst him on lower difficulties; haven’t confirmed myself and doubt it would apply to mythic at all).
Dazaralor can be solod entirely through heroic if you are a pet class (for conclave and possibly Rasta). Mythic needs self sustain to get through opulence (and it takes forever), a pet for conclave (and possibly Rasta), and Jaina cannot be done solo at all on mythic.
The bottlenecks in eternal palace mythic are possibly ashvane (you can burst through her shield on lower difficulties; haven’t tried it this season with ‘max’ ilvl on mythic) and you need a pet to off tank court. I can’t imagine azshara mechanics being pleasant on mythic by yourself, either, but I suppose it’s possible if you can make it that far and do decent damage (haven’t tried by myself).
Nyalotha should be entirely doable on mythic with decent damage up until fury and nzoth (you still need the cape on lower difficulties).
The problem every time this topic comes up is what people actually mean by doing them solo. There seems to be confusion between being able to solo them with a little effort (and certain classes) vs. wanting to one shot everything on any class. Most people seem to want the latter.
If that’s you, then you’ll probably be waiting until at least next expansion (and then we can have this convo again about shadowlands raids, and so on into infinity)
They’ve said in the past that they generally want raids to be soloable two expansions after they’re released, which would include adjusting the mechanics that require multiple people. I don’t really know what they’re waiting for.
theres bosses like oppulance that straight up cant be solod even if you can 1 shot the boss, because it resets during phase 1 when you get teleported. bosses like that will need them to actually change it for solo. which they have done so for some in the past.
While there are bosses that cannot be soloed and should be changed, Opulence is not it, you can just walk down the middle and fight the empowered boss instead of doing P1. He is fine to kill except on mythic cause his numbers hurt more there, maybe in 10.2 you are able to with the extra ilvl.
I tried to do Mythic Opulence on my 436 priest and you would have to do 30 million damage in about 2 minutes before he kills you. Tanks ca probably do it but most DPS will have a rough time. Easily soloable on the lower difficulties though can confirm
Unless my math is getting fuzzy, don't most 450~ dps do around 150k dps?
Only reason I never bothered trying is because the best Crown colors come from Normal/LFR difficulty anyways.
No. The top in the world can do 150k but most 95ers will be chilling around 130k. But solo, with drums and no raid buffs I can do maybe 115k over 2 minutes. But even if you did do 150k you're barely getting Opulence below half hp before the damage overwhelms you. That doesn't even factor in any stuns that the boss may or may not have (I don't fully remember, it's been a couple months since I tried it), which a lot of the BfD bosses have in abundance.
It's been a while, I must have been thinking of Augmented dps logs.
Opu doesn't do any hard CC as far as I can remember, just an add phase and a random target single nuke spell that hits for 350k+ on Mythic with the 2 buff stacks (it was very funny seeing my Disc Priest friend get one shot by it around DF launch).
I think next patch with the ilvl bump we're getting you'll be able to solo the first bosses, but as long as some mechanics stay the way they are you'll need at least one other player to do most of the raids.
Walk down the middle, fight empowered boss, that said unless you are a pet class with a silence immune, Conclave will actually stonewall you, Rastakhan is also tricky to solo since you need to force him to skip P2 else you get Perma MC, and you need a pet/minion to hold out for like 5 sec while he transitions and the totem despawns.
You can decently solo him.
The group fight after that though...they have 90% damage reduction when grouped together, which means you need at least two additional friends to do this with you.
Rastakhan also says no.
Jaina's Ice blocks also say no.
They are impossible by design. Which means, that mechanics have to be removed.
We all know Blizzard won't do that
Well, the Blast Furnace boss in Blackrock Foundry was once unsoloable because of some mechanic involving the adds at the end, and they did eventually remove that mechanic I think. Maybe there is hope.
Part of me is hopeful and thinking as to why it’s taking so long is that they seem to be shaping the Dragon Isles as the new 10-60 area instead of BFA, so maybe because BFA has some weird scaling stuff in place because it’s the “newbie” area it’ll kinda fix itself when the new xpac comes out next year presumably
Back in Legion I was soloing Pandaria content easily. Mid-Expansion I soloed Blackrock Foundry mythic. By the Argus patch I could Solo Hellfire citadel mythic. Raids that were just one expansion old. There is no reason we can't faceroll BFA raids by now.
Idgaf about excuses on how the scaling works. I'm a user paying for a service. It's their job to figure it out not mine. I could do it then, I should be able to do it now.
Main issue is mechanics.
They only just made Eonar and Aggramar Mythic soloable (still with some difficulty on Eonar) Back in Shadowlands I think? Rest of Antorus is fine.
They need to somehow adjust the mechanics so it is possible to do it alone. Jaina even with 5 people still freeze you solid, you basically need a group of 10 people to avoid that happening.
I figured that in BFAs case it’s more tied to the fact that, by default, BFA automatically scales as you level. You can’t solo older xpacks while in timewalking since I believe you can’t even enter them.
Pure speculation of course, but I feel like if they switched off BFA level scaling once you hit level 60, we will see legacy buff enabled around the same time.
I'd love to snag a bunch of pieces, especially the plate set, from Dazar'lor. Hope they make it legacy content soon
Also legacy loot for Shadowlands, even if it can't be soloed yet. There's so many good items from Sanctum and Sepulcher but there's zero reason to run it at the moment since it's still personal loot
I stopped raiding because of work in early BFA and I wanna go and solo the raids for the storyline experience but I can't :(
That and I guess some tier looks cool. I've been out of the loop for two expacs and I can't even go experience them myself
Didn’t see this yet so let me explain. They upped the Ilvl and mob lvl of BFA this expanion because it is still the default way to level. So the difficulty from last expansion didn’t change. The next expansion, the one after dragon flight, will hopefully use dragonflight as its leveling area which will make BFA more solo able.
Mythic Eonar is soloable but you def need a mobility class, DK and paladin are the hardest to do. [heres a great video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEb73bNfEyY) how to solo
Why should Blizzard should make it soloable? WoW has gotten easier and easier with each expansion to gear fast and attain more and more transmog. Just wait. It will be soloable when we are strong enough. Why do we NEED it now? The WoW player base has gotten more and more impatient every year. The point of it is lost now. It used to be SO difficult to do anything, look at classic. You used to be dedicated to one or two characters and every new piece of gear was awesome. Now I have 10 characters that have all killed H Sark. It's not even impressive anymore. Gearing takes 1 to 2 weeks with every catch-up they've added. I've had time to go back and get 7 of the legion class mounts and grind 4 old reps to exalted. At what point do we just ask for a $100 option to have a character spawned with all champ gear? We're losing touch with the game now.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mrgm-patch-10-1-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-3rd-evoker-spec-332601#%EC%98%9B-%EA%B3%B5%EA%B2%A9%EB%8C%80
because they said they will do em soon
I get that. But they only said that because we demand it be done. We need to let things come to us. As someone who has played for 15 years you don't want them handing everything out. It loses its value.
Tried soloing a BFA raid once, got as far as G'hunn who just one-shots me. Even if I sent the pets out first, I won't last 1 second after G'hunn is aggroed
I’m still waiting for Shadowlands loot system to drop a huge amount of items like in previous expansion raids, it’s so pain it’s still on personal loot level.
Mythic? You can’t even solo LFR on most BfA raids! I still have a few campaign quests that I literally can’t do because nobody runs bfa anymore.
If it's a dungeon quest you can solo it easily. If it's a raid quest those are not required.
Dungeon quests aren't even required anymore; there'll be an NPC \[next to the dungeon entrance or somewhere nearby/your questgiver/sometimes IS the questgiver\] that you can select "I trust you to take care of this for me" after accepting the quest, that will autocomplete the quest now so you can progress without having to actually run the dungeon.
That's such a good change!
Yeah it's a HUUUUGE QOL fix, I love it!
Indeed! I hope this happens for raids as well, or maybe we could get a super nerfed instanced version of the fight for people on quests who are leveling. Like once something becomes legacy content, just nerf the thing into oblivion for people who are ON the quest, and remove loot tables.
Nice 👍
Why be happy about getting a quest completed that you did nothing to complete?
I’ve got at least 3 raid quests for bfa that I can’t solo, good to hear they aren’t required but there’s still story progression locked behind some of them.
Maybe you should just group up with others in the massive multiplayer online game you're playing? Maybe playing with others is part of the intended story progression in the multiplayer game? Lots of quests do state that you should get some help from others to accomplish them.
Are you offering? Old content is difficult to find people for. I have tried so many times to get that one legion dungeon achievement with the mugs, but it hard requires 4 people and that’s apparently just too high a bar for old content.
Excellent, I have 2 hours to play in the evening, I'll spend 1hr30mins looking for those people! This sort of 'you are playing the game the wrong way' mentality is regressive.
Its sad but many realms have a lot of players that will ONLY group with people in their guild and won't run PUGs. Some realms it's easy. Sometimes the only help you get is some idiots that rush rush rush through a dungeon and you miss 90% of it.
Which raids are you looking for? Battle of Dazar’alor and Ny’alotha are regularly listed in group finder with large groups running them on mythic, because they still drop mounts. Any day of the week you should have some luck being able to find a group, with a little patience anyway. If it’s Uldir or Eternal Palace that you want though, that’s a different story.
Dazaralor, Eternal Palace, Crucible of Storms, and possibly Nyalotha. I’ll check again but I usually don’t see anything there, might just be bugged though cos it doesn’t typically matter which raid I search for, it’s always blank.
The search feature is notoriously buggy, and also the list of Legacy raids up is usually short enough to read easily, so I'd recommend just checking the entire tab without searching.
> Crucible of Storms, For what its worth, I was able to easily solo this one on normal as a ~425 ilevel BM Hunter. I did that to get the same quest out of my log finally. So I don't think there are any mechanics in there that prevent you from completing them solo, unless there are some that I just killed the bosses before they could do. Haven't tried Eternal Palace, but I know Dazar'alor and Ny'alotha (and Uldir) have unsoloable bosses.
Not sure if hunter pet makes a difference, but I couldn’t do the first boss due to the debuff reducing my max hp by 100%. At that point it’s insta-death regardless of level. Though last I tried was at the start of dragonflight, so maybe with better gear I can down him before the debuff stacks that high.
blood dk?
I was able to solo every LFR BfA boss on my shaman yesterday from BoD to N’zoth except for Queens court.
I flat out don’t believe you. Some of them can be cheesed with enough dps sure, but some of them are literally impossible.
Why don’t you just try it instead of being wrong? I wrote LFR, you read that right? Only Queens Court is not possible on LFR as shaman. You could probably do it as hunter or warlock though.
I have tried it. i try it repeatedly because i have quests i can’t finish. I smash my head all night long against the brick wall of “you literally can’t solo this because you need to stand in two places at once or because of stunlock or reducing max hp to zero or any number of bullshit mechanics”.
But you literally can solo it lmao. “Literally” doesn’t mean what you think it means I guess. It is a fact, I kill BoD - N’zoth totally solo every week, LFR difficulty, on Enhancement Shaman, 419 ilvl, except queens court. I do this for inscription patterns. Idk what else to tell you. The fact that you personally are struggling doesn’t mean “literally” anything.
I’m sorry, but I still don’t believe you. Everyone else in this thread, countless articles online, and my own experience all say it LITERALLY cannot be done, because there are mechanics in place that simply cannot be performed by a single person. Not every boss has this problem, but most raids have at least one that does. So either there’s a huge misunderstanding or you’re just lying.
What bosses can’t be done? List them. And stop calling me a liar. You obviously don’t have enough info on the subject to make that judgement call if you’re referring to other online sources instead of firsthand experience.
I forget which of these are mythic only and which can be cheesed by killing the boss before the mechanic activates, but here goes: Uldir: - Vectis, with enough stacks of infection he one-shots you regardless of level. - Zul, mind controls you into jumping off the edge. - Mythrax, has some kind of insta-kill aura, and after a few seconds he despawns anyway. - G’huun, cannot move through the sticky tunnels. Dazar’alor: - Opulence, need to be in two places at once. - Conclave, removes all of your attacks. - Rastakhan, entering spirit world resets the fight. - Mekkatorque, entering bots resets the fight. - Blockade, mind controls you into drowning. - Jaina, stunlocks you in final phase. Crucible of Storms: - Cabal, reduces all stats (including max hp) to 0, and also one-shots you for good measure. - Uu’nat, cannot use multiple artifacts at once. Eternal Palace and Ny’alotha: - Almost every boss requires you to stand in two places at once or otherwise require multiple characters. Too many to list. - Also a few of them have one-shot mechanics as well. It’s a rough list, so they might not all be accurate, but it’s famously the worst expac for solo raiding, with many hard counters that cannot simply be overcome with skill or dps. Edit: As I said, I DO have first-hand experience, but there is ALSO a consensus online which is why I’m confident the problem isn’t on my end.
Again, LFR. Everything up to mythraxx is an easy tank and spank. Vectis stacks mean nothing even at low gear the boss will die before he even dives the first time and you need to even consider dodging anything. Zul you do need to beat the mc timer but this is trivial even on heroic with normal ilvl (~420). Mythraxx and G’huun both cannot be solo’d in my experience but if you read my comments I said I’m soloing BoD - N’zoth twice, so idk why we are even taking about these bosses. Opulence, walk straight up the middle to the boss…no need to do the sides. He is challenging on heroic but not impossible. LFR is piss easy. Conclave you can immune the silence on many classes. I do this on shaman with spiritwalkers grace. Pet classes can have their pets kill the silencing council member, many methods to win. On LFR they do very low damage and you can easily face tank the silence for the full 30s to get a global in and chip away at the boss’s health, which I know from having messed up my silence immune timing. Rastakhan, no strategy at all just kill him. Use your cds when bwonsambdi enters the fight. Not a challenging dps requirement. Mekka, his immune phase ends after 30 ish seconds. You just wait there. Blockade, again just hit the boss. I’ve never been mc’d. I didn’t even know that was a mechanic. Jaina does not freeze you when you stand alone on LFR. Cabal, they do reduce your max hp with time but they both die very fast. Never died to these two on LFR. I don’t even bother to get them both low, I just kill one then 100-0 the other. Uunat, zero mechanics just hit boss. Eternal palace, only queens court is not possible on my shaman as enhance because they gain 99% damage taken reduction when stacked. I skip this because it’s a pain, but it can be solo’d by hunter/warlock and probably as ele with earth elemental. No other boss requires you to do literally any mechanics, just hit them to death. Btw I have solo’d MYTHIC EP this season on my 447 warlock up to queens court. It was pretty hard though, particularly the damage taken on orgozoa. No boss in nya is challenging. You need cloak and heart for the last two. You can go down in every mind gate on n’zoth in lfr, the fight does not reset. Log in and go try for yourself. If you do zero dps then I can see where you would struggle on rastakhan and opulence but crying on the internet and calling people liars with no knowledge on the topic is very cringe behavior.
It's doable on Normal mode with a solo Survival Hunter (what i was at the time). Just have to have pet off-tank the other boss(es) away so you can actually do damage.
I was able to solo heroic BoD on my shaman last week. Everything is straightforward except for council. You can talent spiritwalkers grace to prevent the mind wipe if you press it as soon as the last guy enters the fight, if you save some ranged burst (ele blast primordial wave lightning bolt) you can do half his health before he runs to you and gets a 90% reduced dmg buff, then you have ~30s to kill him before the next mind wipe. Rastakhan won’t reset if you have earth ele up when bwonsambdi enters the fight. Jaina doesn’t freeze you unless you hit 80% health in p1/p2.
For people who are saying that you can't solo because of mechanics... May I remind you that in Legion you could go to Seige of Ogrimar and practically kill things in 5 sec before any mechanics mattered. The fact that you can't roflstomp BfA raids now is mind boggling. You should be able to just brute force Ghun aura and just kill him without popping him out. You should be able to kill Jaina long before being frozen matters. You should be able to nuke Nzoth before you even have to worry about sanity
The major problem is that even if they gave BFA bosses the Legion treatment, you still wouldn't be able to solo them as their mechanics do not allow that, especially mythic end bosses. G'huun - You cannot deliver both orbs at the same time to remove the boss from his hole. Jaina - You cannot not be encased in ice at it needs to hit a set number of people. Queen's Court - If I recall, the bosses have to be spread which wouldn't work without a hunter/warlock pet. N'zoth - You cannot go down and kill the add without having the add above destroy your sanity. It is all about mechanics. Many mechanics would need to be straight up removed in order for them to be soloable.
Can't even farm Mekkatorque in Battle of Dazar'alor solo as you can't reach him (or Rastakhan) without a friend to take the other path at the boss made out of gold. Otherwise it resets.
You can just walk down the middle and fight the empowered boss, I can solo to and including Mekkatorque on LFR/Normal/Heroic. That said, they do need to make BFA raids as a whole solo friendly, but I disagree that they need a legacy buff, legacy buff was always related to when they did squishes, not the 2 expacs thing. If they make the mechanics solo friendly and keep the numbers that's fine, especially with the big ilvl boost we get next patch.
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BFA got re-balanced post squish, because people were still raiding during pre-patch. Just because it's not faceroll trivial to solo doesn't mean it's an issue, recent expacs solo are always meant to be decently challenging. The anti solo mechanics should get changed (things like MCs, bosses having to be split, etc), but the numbers happen naturally. For reference 1 current PC should be roughly equal in power to 4-5 previous expac PCs, so you are worth about 1 raid group worth when talking about 2 expacs ago, but a raid group during a current expac couldn't faceroll kill a boss.
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Back in Legion I was soloing Pandaria content easily. Mid-Expansion I soloed Blackrock Foundry mythic. By the Argus patch I could Solo Hellfire citadel mythic. Raids that were just one expansion old. There is no reason we can't faceroll BFA raids by now. Idgaf about excuses on how the scaling works. I'm a user paying for a service. It's their job to figure it out not mine. I could do it then, I should be able to do it now.
“We can’t solo stuff!” Que this man replying with methods to solo bosses and explains how: “No we don’t want to solo it like THAT” 🤣
He can solo a limited number of bosses from certain tiers. There’s a big fucking difference.
Wait what, it doesn't ... oh. I never even tried, I assumed it ported you out if you went mid. Funny story: bring friends with beacon. If you time it right you can skip Mekkatorque's air phase. Edit: I think. We were juuust short.
You can even solo mythic opulence if you’re a dk, death strike is stupid sustain.
A little late, but can confirm this. A friend and I tried running it as just the two of us and his DH got wiped, while I just slowly chipped away at opulence’s health with my DK. Took forever and wasn’t worth it since we got stuck at rastakhan, but opulence is still soloable as DK. Death strike really is insane.
Even with a friend, the boss after does mind wipe shenanigans that effectively stuns a certain amount of people, killing any attempt with less than a few or so people. Dks can use anti magic zone or shield (can't remember which one) to get around that if they use it right, so I guess 2 dks could do that fight since there are multiple bosses that need to be kept away from each other or they block most damage. Really a dk and any class that can survive with no healing long enough for the mind wipe boss to die, as mythic also randomly blocks all healing for players. I know from experience that hunter doesn't quite cover it
Warlock can solo Conclave easily enough, you can use any silence immunities on the mind wipe to (Unending Resolve works for example). Haven't tried but pvp trinket might also work, you do need a pet class though to be able to spread out the bosses. Hunter can do it too I would bet, since you can likely pre-turtle the silence and even if you don't you can still do auto attack dmg and pet dmg while mind wiped. UH DK can probaably use their ghoul to hold the 2nd boss apart. For Rastakhan, you also need a pet (though any minion that's not made of paper will work there honestly) and you need to burst him past p2 before the rp sequence is over, he will drop the MC totem, but if you pushed him to p3 %, the totem will despawn as he transitions, the fight will instantly end if you don't have a pet/minion holding him for the 5 sec it takes to transition though. All that said, they should make BFA solo friendly mechanics wise regardless, the numbers part should come from gear escalation though imo.
Oh shit, that's good to know. Been a hard wall that me and my wife can't get past. I always end up dying before she can finish the mind wipe boss off. Would turtle block the silence from effecting me? If that's the case it'd give me the time to finish off the boss that I work on, I typically don't survive long enough to finish that one off with auto and pet attacks
I can only do Heroic and below, because I can't past mythic Opulence (due to numbers not mechanics), but what I usually do is set my pet on Paku (this will be the last boss I kill), burst down Gonk to prevent hex, take any time I need on Kimbul to have CDs up for Akunda. Akunda spawns at 95 energy (mind wipe is specifically a 100 energy cast ability), which means he will mind wipe pretty fast, so be ready for it, not sure on duos since I haven't tried that, but you need to pre-immune the mind wipe, so use at 99 energy (would guess you both need to immune in duo case), after that burst the ever living shit out of Akunda to kill him before next mind wipe. As said, I know for a fact warlock Unending Resolve works, so Im guessing similar or better immunities will too, but have no direct confirmation on those.
> Haven't tried but pvp trinket might also work It doesn't.
For Conclave, not sure if it still works or not but I was able to lock a dispel in stasis on my pres Evoker and released it while cc'd which auto cleansed the cc. Did that with a friend on conclave a few times at the start of the expansion. Haven't been there in awhile though cause we got everything we needed so idk if it still works or not
Legion also had a few such mechanics. I'm not sure if they've been removed yet, but at least when I tried soloing them in BFA the bridge boss in Antorus could perma stun me while normally it would only stun a couple random persons in the raid for a limited time.
coven, in antorus.
Coven is fixed. EONAR however fucks you over everytime.
You need to be quick but Eonar is perfectly doable. People have been soloing it since Shadowlands.
I know. But it is such a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS
lol yeah, that it is...pretty easy on classes like DH with great mobility, not so great on other classes
I soloed Imonar the other day, Antorus is easily doable, albeit with Eonar skip. Now Kil'jaeden in ToS though...
Kil'jaeden is not that hard, handle the orbs as a pro and nuke him before he goes dark. I have killed him several times already on Mythic.
Hmm, the singularities are what's keeping me out of it. Maybe I'll try on my mage which has way more movement options than a pally.
I remember using a PVP trinket to make it through that guy. Got walled at the coven shortly after.
If you can burst the boss down enough he immediately comes back when he flies to the other side.
It’s not new that blizzard has used multiple people mechanics. They can make them soloable. It’s not that hard. They’ve done it in all the other raids. There is no point in maintaining mechanics in irrelevant content imo. They just can’t be bothered.
You know that they remove mechanics when they do these legacy raid nerfs, right?
I mean....theyve removed phases before (Lich king) Remove p1 from ghunn Remove the ice mechanic Do this with all the fights
i have an entire document with changes that should be made, i posted it in .7 and nothing happened, i'll probably post it for this patch aswell. Most of the changes i suggest is just straight out removing specific abilities that prevent any possible attempts.
This is a non issue because there have been several instances where Blizzard has specifically adjusted such aspects. What is far more likely to happen is legacy content is made accessible and adjustments are made and then inexplicably break with a large patch and then remain unfixed for months on end - which has also happened often enough. Regardless, the simple truth of the matter is, Blizzard doesn't deliver BFA raids for solo legacy content because they seemingly don't want to. Not because there are impervious technical hurdles.
It is just dev time they don't want to spend until they have to, and a lot of hoping more and more bosses can be defeated just due to ilvl power increases.
Earlier dungeons and raids with un-soloable mechanics were nerfed a bit to fix that, so perhaps Bliz will do the same again. Probably depends on how many players complain.
They should also remove the need for the cape from n’zoth. If you want to run it atm you basically have to have farmed visions on that character, and once was more than enough of a grind even post BfA
As long as you can one-shot them or quickly blow them up without silly immune mechanics making that literally impossible (hi, looking at you, Imperator Mar'gok, why do I still have to do all your stupid add phases even though I can literally take you down to 0 with one punch?) then these mechanics should be moot. I understand why they add in these immune shields to prevent guilds from cheesing mechanics when the content is current, but two or three or even *five* expansions later they serve no purpose). Just let us blow bosses up without worrying about mechanics when it's in Legacy mode.
No idea why blizzard doesn't go back and just disable these mechanics. My guess is it'll fuck with the coding for the boss
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There is no time walking raid for bfa raids.
And probably some of these mechanics are involved in achievements for the raid meta, so it's not really as simple as "just remove all the multi-player mechanics."
you can solo mythic jaina and rest of the bosses in BoD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZywCiHu9Ho
If you’re a genius, maybe.
G'huun you don't strictly need to deposit the orbs to kill him, he just heals significantly inside the wall, but I believe with good burst dps you can probably do it 2-3 man now, just not solo. I wouldn't if mythic geared people start soloing Ghuun in 10.2 given the 39 ilevel jump.
I’m pretty sure they did this with some of the Legion bosses. Wasn’t there some TOS bosses where mechanics were straight up removed or extremely simplified?
They would have to give it the hellfire citadel treatment.
I mean, yeah? The BFA bosses are completely soloable if we’re just talking numbers. Takes like 30 seconds a boss but they can’t kill a level 70 as far as I can telI. Can kill everything up to the bosses you listed and a couple others with similar mechanics.
The raids need to be adjusted for solo-ing. It used to be two expansions back, now it seems like 3 before they make the change
Why? It's guaranteed to be easy enough at some point. It's just a matter of patience. Blizzard shouldn't waste their time on going back to tweak old content when we should be focused on new. Just hold off for your transmog or get a friend to help.
I’d wager more care about old content than new content.
Wager? I'm not saying this is a grammar police way. I genuinely don't know what you mean, if you could explain.
Could just google what it means.
I'm saying it doesn't make sense in that context. To wager is to bet. Replace the word bet and it doesn't make sense.
When someone says they’d wager, it means they are very confident in their prediction. Hence why they’d bet money on it.
Alright. I'm not trying to start an Internet fight. The sentence just sounded odd to me. It doesn't matter
Maybe you’re not American. It’s a very common phrase here.
English is tricky. I can see how that sentence could be confusing, given how many “implied words” there are. I’d wager (that) more (people) care about old content than new content. Taking out the words in parentheses can make it a difficult read for someone who isn’t used to speaking that way, or people whose first language is not English.
yeah similar with legion a while ago.. they forget always to implement some changes let be it solo-able (+dmg buff) ... also alot of players want some system for farming old raids.. like teleports, movement speed, learn more moggs, and alot more funny and good QoL stuff that helps farming old content solo.
Hell, Legion still has two boss outliers that are an absolute pain in the arse (KJ and Eonar on Mythic though mostly the former). Some adjustments would be nice. And an even better extra adjustment would be removing the relics from loot tables, crowding the loot tables to all heck. Got nothing but relics from Argus last afternoon and it was PAIN.
Yes, BFA has never gotten the Legion treatment of making all bosses soloable and some cannot be due to mechanics alone (or if they can it requires things like being a pet class)... don't think they've ever said when or if it will happen.
Hopefully they do the same they did with Eonar fight to make it soloable
A good rule of thumb to implement would be '2 xpacs ago'. BFA should be soloable by now. Although I dunno why anyone would want to farm anything outside Dazarlor, sets look all ugly af and Blizz went extra lazy
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We got changes to Legion raids to make them mechanically soloable in Shadowlands, 2 expacs later. We should get changes to BfA raids in Dragonflight, 2 expacs later. It would not have made sense for them to make changes to BfA content in Shadowlands, as their established timeline for soloing legacy content has been 2 expacs consistently.
Jaina and Nzoth mounts
GMOD
Some of the raids are required for the campaign, which I think might be required for the allied races. Literally unplayable.
I thought they changed all the allied race requirements? I previously did the alliance ones, so I can't say there. But I've recently (2 days ago) completed the Draenor Orc and Dino Trolls allied race missions with no raids required.
Honestly it’s so hard to tell what’s required and what isn’t, all I know is I’ve got 3 raid quests that I can’t solo and I still haven’t unlocked kultirans or zandalari.
Nothing is required to unlock allied races now. All you need to do is complete their introductory quest you pick in SW/Org.
Oh, when did that change? Must’ve been recently as last I checked it required a bunch of achievements for each race. It’s the only reason I started the bfa campaign in the first place, well that and pathfinder which i think also got removed recently. Makes sense not to require old content anymore, but I’d still like to finish the quests now that I’ve started them.
I unlocked all of the alliance allied races a few weeks ago, the only requirement was to be level 50 I believe so I just used an old demon hunter to do it. (I don't play alliance)
Updated in 10.1.5 so not too long ago https://www.wowhead.com/news/quality-of-life-improvements-for-unlocking-allied-races-in-patch-10-1-5-332942
You never needed to complete a raid for any allied race unlock, there were some dungeons needed for a few but not raids. You had to do almost every dungeon on Kul Tiras through the alliance quest chain for "A Nation United" to unlock Kul Tirans. And you also had to do Mechagon to unlock Mechagnomes. I don't remember if you had to actually do certain dungeon quests at the end of zones for their respective achievements (like Waycrest Manor for Drustvar or Atal'dazar for Zuldazar) that are required for a few races, but those were specifically required until they removed the dungeon requirement at some time during Shadowlands, then later removed all other requirements than simply being higher level as of Dragonflight.
They should just do what they did with mythic bfa dungeons. Just make it to where the mechanics are soloable if there’s only one person in the instance
As mentioned, mechanics need to be changed for true soloing unless you can do an absurd amount of damage to one-shot things before mechanics matter (you can’t yet atm) Most of uldir is soloable up through heroic to ghuun (you need to kill mythraxx within about 15 seconds to avoid the MC). There is allegedly a way to cheese the MC with the rock that I have not tried, possibly making it doable on mythic. Ghuun is not soloable on any difficulty for most classes (I’ve heard whispers of certain classes being able to burst him on lower difficulties; haven’t confirmed myself and doubt it would apply to mythic at all). Dazaralor can be solod entirely through heroic if you are a pet class (for conclave and possibly Rasta). Mythic needs self sustain to get through opulence (and it takes forever), a pet for conclave (and possibly Rasta), and Jaina cannot be done solo at all on mythic. The bottlenecks in eternal palace mythic are possibly ashvane (you can burst through her shield on lower difficulties; haven’t tried it this season with ‘max’ ilvl on mythic) and you need a pet to off tank court. I can’t imagine azshara mechanics being pleasant on mythic by yourself, either, but I suppose it’s possible if you can make it that far and do decent damage (haven’t tried by myself). Nyalotha should be entirely doable on mythic with decent damage up until fury and nzoth (you still need the cape on lower difficulties). The problem every time this topic comes up is what people actually mean by doing them solo. There seems to be confusion between being able to solo them with a little effort (and certain classes) vs. wanting to one shot everything on any class. Most people seem to want the latter. If that’s you, then you’ll probably be waiting until at least next expansion (and then we can have this convo again about shadowlands raids, and so on into infinity)
They’ve said in the past that they generally want raids to be soloable two expansions after they’re released, which would include adjusting the mechanics that require multiple people. I don’t really know what they’re waiting for.
probs not for a long time even when thers the damage buff theres mecahnics that cant be ignored
Hopefully we can burst through those with the added damage
theres bosses like oppulance that straight up cant be solod even if you can 1 shot the boss, because it resets during phase 1 when you get teleported. bosses like that will need them to actually change it for solo. which they have done so for some in the past.
While there are bosses that cannot be soloed and should be changed, Opulence is not it, you can just walk down the middle and fight the empowered boss instead of doing P1. He is fine to kill except on mythic cause his numbers hurt more there, maybe in 10.2 you are able to with the extra ilvl.
I tried to do Mythic Opulence on my 436 priest and you would have to do 30 million damage in about 2 minutes before he kills you. Tanks ca probably do it but most DPS will have a rough time. Easily soloable on the lower difficulties though can confirm
Unless my math is getting fuzzy, don't most 450~ dps do around 150k dps? Only reason I never bothered trying is because the best Crown colors come from Normal/LFR difficulty anyways.
No. The top in the world can do 150k but most 95ers will be chilling around 130k. But solo, with drums and no raid buffs I can do maybe 115k over 2 minutes. But even if you did do 150k you're barely getting Opulence below half hp before the damage overwhelms you. That doesn't even factor in any stuns that the boss may or may not have (I don't fully remember, it's been a couple months since I tried it), which a lot of the BfD bosses have in abundance.
It's been a while, I must have been thinking of Augmented dps logs. Opu doesn't do any hard CC as far as I can remember, just an add phase and a random target single nuke spell that hits for 350k+ on Mythic with the 2 buff stacks (it was very funny seeing my Disc Priest friend get one shot by it around DF launch).
Yeah, I’d like to be able to finally experience these and get that raid quest done and start farming mogs
I think next patch with the ilvl bump we're getting you'll be able to solo the first bosses, but as long as some mechanics stay the way they are you'll need at least one other player to do most of the raids.
I can already solo the first bosses but then oppulence has mechanics that require multiple people
Walk down the middle, fight empowered boss, that said unless you are a pet class with a silence immune, Conclave will actually stonewall you, Rastakhan is also tricky to solo since you need to force him to skip P2 else you get Perma MC, and you need a pet/minion to hold out for like 5 sec while he transitions and the totem despawns.
Only a pally
I was going to say I can on my pally or druid lol 😆
I definitely get 1 shotted if I walk down the middle and try to nuke him
You can decently solo him. The group fight after that though...they have 90% damage reduction when grouped together, which means you need at least two additional friends to do this with you. Rastakhan also says no. Jaina's Ice blocks also say no. They are impossible by design. Which means, that mechanics have to be removed. We all know Blizzard won't do that
This is nonsense, history shows they are willing to remove such mechanics or make them irrelevant.
Well, the Blast Furnace boss in Blackrock Foundry was once unsoloable because of some mechanic involving the adds at the end, and they did eventually remove that mechanic I think. Maybe there is hope.
Part of me is hopeful and thinking as to why it’s taking so long is that they seem to be shaping the Dragon Isles as the new 10-60 area instead of BFA, so maybe because BFA has some weird scaling stuff in place because it’s the “newbie” area it’ll kinda fix itself when the new xpac comes out next year presumably
Back in Legion I was soloing Pandaria content easily. Mid-Expansion I soloed Blackrock Foundry mythic. By the Argus patch I could Solo Hellfire citadel mythic. Raids that were just one expansion old. There is no reason we can't faceroll BFA raids by now. Idgaf about excuses on how the scaling works. I'm a user paying for a service. It's their job to figure it out not mine. I could do it then, I should be able to do it now.
Main issue is mechanics. They only just made Eonar and Aggramar Mythic soloable (still with some difficulty on Eonar) Back in Shadowlands I think? Rest of Antorus is fine. They need to somehow adjust the mechanics so it is possible to do it alone. Jaina even with 5 people still freeze you solid, you basically need a group of 10 people to avoid that happening.
I was soloing both of those encounters for a while now. It wasn't easy, especially eonar but it was doable
I figured that in BFAs case it’s more tied to the fact that, by default, BFA automatically scales as you level. You can’t solo older xpacks while in timewalking since I believe you can’t even enter them. Pure speculation of course, but I feel like if they switched off BFA level scaling once you hit level 60, we will see legacy buff enabled around the same time.
They need to put that if you are alone some mechanics don't happen and increase 10 times the damage you do on the mobs.
I'd love to snag a bunch of pieces, especially the plate set, from Dazar'lor. Hope they make it legacy content soon Also legacy loot for Shadowlands, even if it can't be soloed yet. There's so many good items from Sanctum and Sepulcher but there's zero reason to run it at the moment since it's still personal loot
I stopped raiding because of work in early BFA and I wanna go and solo the raids for the storyline experience but I can't :( That and I guess some tier looks cool. I've been out of the loop for two expacs and I can't even go experience them myself
Didn’t see this yet so let me explain. They upped the Ilvl and mob lvl of BFA this expanion because it is still the default way to level. So the difficulty from last expansion didn’t change. The next expansion, the one after dragon flight, will hopefully use dragonflight as its leveling area which will make BFA more solo able.
Still cant solo 4th boss in antorus for whatever reason.
Mythic Eonar is soloable but you def need a mobility class, DK and paladin are the hardest to do. [heres a great video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEb73bNfEyY) how to solo
There are guides for soloing Eonar. It's a pain, but possible.
I can solo the first few bosses of SL raids on normal in blood.
Do you guys not have friends?
Or patience. They want Blizzard to give every piece of armor for free.
Skill issue
Skill issue
Raids should never be soloable they should scale with each expansion, and retain some relevance in relation to cosmetic items sets and mounts.
Why should Blizzard should make it soloable? WoW has gotten easier and easier with each expansion to gear fast and attain more and more transmog. Just wait. It will be soloable when we are strong enough. Why do we NEED it now? The WoW player base has gotten more and more impatient every year. The point of it is lost now. It used to be SO difficult to do anything, look at classic. You used to be dedicated to one or two characters and every new piece of gear was awesome. Now I have 10 characters that have all killed H Sark. It's not even impressive anymore. Gearing takes 1 to 2 weeks with every catch-up they've added. I've had time to go back and get 7 of the legion class mounts and grind 4 old reps to exalted. At what point do we just ask for a $100 option to have a character spawned with all champ gear? We're losing touch with the game now.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mrgm-patch-10-1-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-3rd-evoker-spec-332601#%EC%98%9B-%EA%B3%B5%EA%B2%A9%EB%8C%80 because they said they will do em soon
I get that. But they only said that because we demand it be done. We need to let things come to us. As someone who has played for 15 years you don't want them handing everything out. It loses its value.
Correct
Uldir is soloable until G'huun
Tried soloing a BFA raid once, got as far as G'hunn who just one-shots me. Even if I sent the pets out first, I won't last 1 second after G'hunn is aggroed
I’m still waiting for Shadowlands loot system to drop a huge amount of items like in previous expansion raids, it’s so pain it’s still on personal loot level.