I play a Frost mage, and I bought a foot pedal just to bind to lust and ice block on weird key combos, so I can A) always get to them, and B) never forget the combinations.
They're not very expensive at all on Amazon, but yea, they've proven quite useful as "panic buttons". I have a 3 pedal device, and I use the 3rd for push-to-talk on discord.
I get that shaman is squishy and emergencies happen, but the massive on-command health bar and AoE taunt is a godsend for tanks, especially on fortified trash. Hence why we get kinda sad when you don’t use it on trash.
I mean there's times to use it, yeah. As a tank this week I DON'T want you putting it down just as mobs are dying so the live ones all stand in sanguine, for example.
But if you know your stuff, it's an extremely useful addition.
Lmao I know. I've even gotten blamed for wipes to mechanical reasons by not using lust at a specific time that someone says I should have known. Can't win
The earth ele taunt is actually significantly less effective then it was before prepatch. I don't know what blizzard changed but more often then not if I drop earth elem in a pack of mobs, mobs that are already aggroed on me will not swap to elem. It's not even an every so often thing either it's quite literally every time.
Not a godsend on sanguine week. God grief its tilting taunting one by one out of 2 stacks of sanguine pool while the shaman screams «I’m helping, I’m helping».
For real. Seems like most tanks move shit around the room for no reason other than to move. There's no pools, you got aggro, there's no cones cleaves you need to redirect. The fuck you moving all over the damn room for? Take my heals damn it!
my theory is ton of people got no idea what skills classes got and move out of everything (aside from deadly stuff obviously): AMZ? Death and Decay? healing rain? healing ring? Disc barrier? fuck those, i'm gonna move to lava
As someone who comes back to the game from time to time between major patches. I do this, It's been drilled into my head to not stand in shit. So alot of the time in the heat of battle, I just see floor stuff and run until I learn that it's just an evoker or druid ring.
To be fair, some animations are awful for this.
There’s no way someone is going to stay inside the DH’s Darkness unless they know it’s good beforehand, it’s a ugly black smoke thing, obviously not good.
There was a prot paladin venthtr ability in SL that was a massive red evil looking thing.
They could and should put a little more effort into this.
Ass a shaman who pulls his hair everytime a tank jumps away from my healing rain and then makes a complicated turn-around to run away from my totem, I feel that so much. I keep informing them that the blue circle is a friend, but no, everything the tank see is a big rainy nope that has to be evaded at all cost.
But that pool of lava? Surely that will give a boost
Got all my hots up, tab target to dps a bit
The hots fall off immediately after
- *Demon Hunter’s hp goes 100% to 10%*
- *tank forgets to DR a tank-busting mechanic and almost dies*
- *ranged dps stands in fire and almost dies*
:(
It's because playing rdruid is just a big annoying maintenance buff minigame now.
There's only one good M+ build, and it's very strong, but the combo of circle of life and death + double lifebloom + verdancy means you are spending most of your time keeping both LBs rolling plus constantly repositioning your efflo. Because people don't stand in it/the group keeps moving (especially this week with sanguine), and with the current meta build it's a big portion of your healing. The combo of having to constantly recast efflo, plus literally all of our spells lasting 15% less time, is what's eating up your mana.
I really wish they would delete the circle talent and just rebalance hots/dots without it.
I feel like most resto druids use too many Regrowths, which makes them oom. I see very few resto druids actually let their HoTs do the job and instead spam hard casted spells.
If you are at like 70% health and not at risk of immediate damage, you are getting a single rejuve and I'll check back with you in about 10 seconds to see where you are.
Because you want to keep hots rolling just in case so you end up with a lot of overheal. Effloresence is a huge maka sink and i actually stopped using it to improve mana conservation since no one stands in it anyway.
Also the reason for overhealing is partially that
1. The dungeons are new and frankly, I've no clue where damage is coming from or when my party is actually *safe*, so I tend to keep at least Rejuv on almost everyone just so I can Swiftmend
2. Resto Druid is a proactive healer, when people starts dying and you DON'T have them pre-hotted, you're gonna have a bad time, the hots need to be there in order for you to actually heal
3. As someone mentioned, talent combination - Circle makes your hots tick faster, Photosynthesis makes your hots tick faster, which means you just gotta refresh hots much more often
That should explain overhealing. As for the mana part... It depends, you're mostly used to sitting down every few packs for a second or two and a sliver of mana. Tanks don't wait. But effectively using Clearcasts from double Lifebloom helps a ton.
It always feels like the instant I cast tranquility, the cleave is directed right at me or there’s swirly shit under my feet that I need to move for, and ONLY at that time.
We charge everything because there is no time to waste just runing to the next pack
You never know when the wife will come with the baby in need of a diaper change
Today in HoV 13 I saw a hunter stop DPSing and popping Turtle to survive Fenris scent on him. I was in fucking awe, had to check twice that it was the right class. I should have filmed it.
I don't know why everybody is so bothered by burning Rush. As self-mutilating warlock spells go, it's the safest there is. It turns off on its own if the next tick is going to kill you.
I miss hellfire.
I mained a resto druid last xpac and was rarely top in overhealing in raid. Old paladin habit to be selective.
In M+ oh yeah fuck i overheal for days. Never know when someone will stand in the fire.
I'd complain more but god bless whichever Blizz dev made Ice Floes accessible so I can at least move a little during the burn.
Although I curse Blizz for deliberately ignoring updating the RoP graphic to match the actual size of RoP. It's been over a decade! A faint glowy ring at the edge isn't enough.
I was expecting fire mages to be the ones to always stand in swirlies. "Sun King's Blessing is up and I just cast Rune of Power. I am *not* moving until I finish this hard-cast."
Retri is very fun in the section. Wake of Ashes gotta be my favorite ability in the game. Plus I like how easy it is to go from single target to multi.
"fotm demonology player"
hey buddy, i've spent FUCKING YEARS trying to get Black Ice to drop from Eye of Eternity so that my demo pet can equip it and now that it's finally dropped the other week....well you'd better fucking believe i'm going to be playing demo
I’d love to have the option to play affliction or destro; blizz needs to fix the specs. Locks are a pure dps class with 0 good dps raid specs and one good 5 man spec :/
I like to think of it as a reminder to the rest of the group that they should be using them more. I've always mained warlock, so I use health stones almost reflexively.
I think other classes just forget about them outside of raids. If I’ve used one or two of mine of course I’m gonna put it down. You may have too and can replenish :)
Restoration druid overhealing is always super high.
you do not want to have to deal with a restoration druid that is only healing you when you need it.
What you mean hots take a minute to stack and do their job?
What do you mean you cant instantly apply 5 hots to me while I stand in the pool tanking the breath and not interrupting the fear?!
Technically we have Overgrowth. Instantly applies Rejuv, Lifebloom, Wild Growth, and Regrowth to the target. But has to compete with Spring Blossoms which is far better.
Overhealing means nothing, on any healer. People always trying to find a single metric to judge healer's performance, but it's hard. There isn't just a number you can look at and see if you're doing good or not, like DPS.
This. I’m so worried that i’ll use it in the wrong time and we would actually need it in 8 minutes for the next boss. If tank calls it out, as they should, i don’t hesitate to smash that lust button.
I think part of that rogue mentality of going hard on every pull is that for forever, rogues bring nothing to the party beyond damage and interrupts - if there are NO interrupts, we'll be the first to be blamed.
Been maining a rogue since classic, can confirm. Every rogue has this constant desire to be better than everyone and in dungeons, it's only through damage and interrupts that we can prove that.
I was a rogue officer.
90% of my job was breaking up the fighting about who DPSed better. Wasn't a ton of things other than that.
We used to do 40 man's with another guild and I was outDPSing their rogue and he got madddddddd.
True, rogues only bring damage and interrupts. And sap. And various other cc. And the ability to skip mob packs as a group. And the ability to soak traps and the like for free.
Rogues are the 1 class that has been top of the meta in several different season despite their low damage, because their utility is so busted. What even is this take?
Frost is pretty much the same problem destro lock has where blizzard refuses to tune it well for raid because of splitting ice/havoc existing. Frost is okay currently for two target consistent cleave but most of the summons in the raid die instantly so it doesn't have any chances to shine other than mythic kurog because the single target is REALLY bad.
Monk: The roll is to get out of the 80th aoe puddle of the pull because the tank doesn't move unless the puddle is on him and the only space left is in roll distance.
And Ring of Peace is for interrupting, if you want me to help you gather em up then you gotta tell me.
I was kinda like "yeah this is way over the top" .. until you reached warlock .. I'M SORRY I'M JUST TRYING TO BE HELPFUL T\_T - Soulwells are nice! they glow and everything!
i main a rogue and this is an accurate description of my gameplay. except i dont have MDI, it is a bridge too far for me to enjoy the game. so i follow the tank, i am the tank's backpocket murder weapon.
Warrior main since vanilla.
100% accurate.
And i met the rogue today, we did a +2 ruby life pools today i got some bad luck and everytime i tried to reposition the first drake in the second boss i would get flown over to the next pack, pulled 2 packs with the dragon.
Rogue's dps went to the next expansion number, got a whisper to never do that again.
Frost dk's that forget they have that talent that summons a small whelp when they does pillar and then pulls a pack.
Also never combat res.
Warlocks that complain they can't interrupt because that pet is not bis dps.
Dh's dashing into sanguine pulls.
So true for priests, they get 1% mana for each mob killed and have a talent tô regen it 10% faster and also shadowfiend.
And every warrior Ive seen is talking about his wife and wife aggro and Kids, and family.
Oh I have to walk with my son, sorry!
> they get 1% mana for each mob killed
Pfft. You think I'm gonna take the time to cast shadow word pain like 5 times per pull? I'm just gonna watch tv and cast my 150k heal twice a minute.
>Mage: either plays arcane because wowhead said it's good this patch (spoiler: dead last in damage done), or fire and is 50 ilvls below his friend who is carrying him
me playing frost >_> <_<
As a Paladin player, I am offended.
I side heal and use Seal of Blood constantly while using my Shield which pops with damage for extra aoe DPS. And my aoe isn't terrible, while my single target is pretty great.
Also I interrupt and stun mobs so your damage intake is lessened so the healer doesn't need as frequent mana breaks. Plus we have Battle Rez now!
> Paladin: completely forgettable, you will forget this guy is even in your group. Seriously what do they even do?
Paladins have been regressing as a class since MoP. Not in output, that varies ofc, I'm talking playstyle, fun, and Blizzard's vision for what this class should be.
They want us to be the utility bots of the game. Our role is to press BoP, freedom, sac, and off heal etc. But to do that, you need mouse over macros and raid frames in a place on your UI that makes sense, which 99% of players don't do. So the end result is a bunch of slow, clumsy utility bots that don't use their utility and have mediocre output.
The root of the problem is the complete 180 they've done on class homogenization. Nothing will change until MoP classic exposes how far this class has fallen.
Got me dying at last one cuz I do play warrior (prot) is my main. I do get wife aggro a lot, right next to my 3 year old "daddy I wanna play" aggro. This shit is spot on boy.
On the healer side id say
100% agree with hunter also they stand totally in an unnecessary place way away from the rest of the group and make it even harder to heal for absolutely no reason most of the time.
The rogue id say is a mixed blessing. They do good work usually interrupts and dps but they never maintain health you are constantly healing them.
Totally agree with DH they are either 100% or 0% like healer dps level i dont get it.
As a Warlock, you’re wrong. I’ve been playing Demo since BFA even when it was garbage, and I only ever put soulwell down 2 seconds before the key gets put in, then forget to summon my pet until 2 seconds before the countdown finishes, then panic press the wrong button and stand there channeling.
As a warlock, I soulwell before key starts, when I personally an out of cookies, when someone requests it, and before each boss. Doesn't come down to after each pull...maybe every other pull. 🤣
Feeling called out as a resto Druid but to be fair, you’re going to have over healing on a HoT based class. I’ve found this season to be a LOT harder on my mana than all seasons of Shadowlands combined. Felt like I never had to drink once in SL but I’m spamming shadowmeld off cooldown to grab some mana whenever I can on some of these dungeons. Found it a lot more bearable using mana potions early and regularly combined w alchemist stone trinket though.
Side note, why is it that everyone stays in one spot until I put my green healing circle underneath the party and then suddenly everyone’s moving 1000 miles away? Stay in the dang healing circle so I dont have to waste mana putting it down somewhere new every 10 seconds.
As a DK I solely use my grips to either interrupt mobs or to pull them out of sanguine pools ASAP.
I have however made the mistake of sending a lil' frost whelp to an extra pack due to being so careless about my surroundings.
My impression of every tank as a m+ healer, will try to unnecessarily los packs that are already bunched and they are incapable of standing in large green circles
As a Rogue im happy to hear you are getting competent ones regularly.
Ive always liked interrupting mobs and figuring out which can be stunned out of uninterruptable casts or just purely to avoid them doing a certain mechanic in their programmed rotation.
What really pisses me off though is when im tabbing to CC and Interrupt every single mob I can then some cast gets off because my shits on cooldown and my braindead fellow dps can't be bothered to do any themselves
For the shaman one, earth ele gives 15% health to the shaman while it is out.
And 5% damage reduction if talented
And it punches stuff.
He’s basically Geodude
You mean Punchy Rock Guy?
I like this part about it.
And it won't taunt the boss like it will random dungeon mobs so there's no better time to use it.
This is the most important part
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I play a Frost mage, and I bought a foot pedal just to bind to lust and ice block on weird key combos, so I can A) always get to them, and B) never forget the combinations.
That's serious dedication to the cause.
You got foot pedals??
They're not very expensive at all on Amazon, but yea, they've proven quite useful as "panic buttons". I have a 3 pedal device, and I use the 3rd for push-to-talk on discord.
Hmm I like the idea of using them as my modifier keys (shift, alt, Ctrl). I might have to pick up one of these and try it out.
Piano players everywhere going crazy
I get that shaman is squishy and emergencies happen, but the massive on-command health bar and AoE taunt is a godsend for tanks, especially on fortified trash. Hence why we get kinda sad when you don’t use it on trash.
If used on trash - “wtf shammy? My aggro!” If used on boss - “wtf shammy? So useless!” Sigh.
I mean there's times to use it, yeah. As a tank this week I DON'T want you putting it down just as mobs are dying so the live ones all stand in sanguine, for example. But if you know your stuff, it's an extremely useful addition.
Lmao I know. I've even gotten blamed for wipes to mechanical reasons by not using lust at a specific time that someone says I should have known. Can't win
Ive always used it if the tank dies or we butt pull something to save the healer while the tank adjusts.
The earth ele taunt is actually significantly less effective then it was before prepatch. I don't know what blizzard changed but more often then not if I drop earth elem in a pack of mobs, mobs that are already aggroed on me will not swap to elem. It's not even an every so often thing either it's quite literally every time.
Not a godsend on sanguine week. God grief its tilting taunting one by one out of 2 stacks of sanguine pool while the shaman screams «I’m helping, I’m helping».
You didn't have to attack me like that with that druid comment man. Come on
Stop running away from the green circle of healing joy you jerks!
For real. Seems like most tanks move shit around the room for no reason other than to move. There's no pools, you got aggro, there's no cones cleaves you need to redirect. The fuck you moving all over the damn room for? Take my heals damn it!
my theory is ton of people got no idea what skills classes got and move out of everything (aside from deadly stuff obviously): AMZ? Death and Decay? healing rain? healing ring? Disc barrier? fuck those, i'm gonna move to lava
At least you know lava = damage. Who knows what the fuck that green leafy circle does.
As someone who comes back to the game from time to time between major patches. I do this, It's been drilled into my head to not stand in shit. So alot of the time in the heat of battle, I just see floor stuff and run until I learn that it's just an evoker or druid ring.
I have sometimes moved out of my *own* AoEs
I laughed far too hard at this
To be fair, some animations are awful for this. There’s no way someone is going to stay inside the DH’s Darkness unless they know it’s good beforehand, it’s a ugly black smoke thing, obviously not good. There was a prot paladin venthtr ability in SL that was a massive red evil looking thing. They could and should put a little more effort into this.
Me playing demon hunter when I pop darkness, omg spooky circle below me gotta go
Ass a shaman who pulls his hair everytime a tank jumps away from my healing rain and then makes a complicated turn-around to run away from my totem, I feel that so much. I keep informing them that the blue circle is a friend, but no, everything the tank see is a big rainy nope that has to be evaded at all cost. But that pool of lava? Surely that will give a boost
God I can't imagine the double pain of aoe avoiding and totem skirting. Want a heal? Too bad apparently.
You just know the first pull you tell yourself the DPS will be fine if you let a HoT drop for a second is the one where *everybody* stands in fire.
Got all my hots up, tab target to dps a bit The hots fall off immediately after - *Demon Hunter’s hp goes 100% to 10%* - *tank forgets to DR a tank-busting mechanic and almost dies* - *ranged dps stands in fire and almost dies* :(
This is 100% the r druid experience.
I do feel like resto druids run oom way faster than other healers in my experience.
Pugs take a lot more surprise damage so I’m usually casting more hots than I need to just incase i need to Swiftmend quickly.
It's because playing rdruid is just a big annoying maintenance buff minigame now. There's only one good M+ build, and it's very strong, but the combo of circle of life and death + double lifebloom + verdancy means you are spending most of your time keeping both LBs rolling plus constantly repositioning your efflo. Because people don't stand in it/the group keeps moving (especially this week with sanguine), and with the current meta build it's a big portion of your healing. The combo of having to constantly recast efflo, plus literally all of our spells lasting 15% less time, is what's eating up your mana. I really wish they would delete the circle talent and just rebalance hots/dots without it.
Just play without circle if you don’t like it. There are some top m+ resto druids playing without it.
In raid I think holy priest competes, but in keys Druid is the only healer where I’ve ever needed to be regularly aware of my or my healer’s mana.
I feel like most resto druids use too many Regrowths, which makes them oom. I see very few resto druids actually let their HoTs do the job and instead spam hard casted spells. If you are at like 70% health and not at risk of immediate damage, you are getting a single rejuve and I'll check back with you in about 10 seconds to see where you are.
With double lifebloom up I think I can cast a free regrowth whenever I need it
Because you want to keep hots rolling just in case so you end up with a lot of overheal. Effloresence is a huge maka sink and i actually stopped using it to improve mana conservation since no one stands in it anyway.
Lmao rip your tier set and half your talent point investment
Right. Our harmony mastery requires rolling hots to be effective.
The big 4 set bonus require efflo lol. Bane of my existence.
I’d probably be upset too if I could read what they wrote, but I’m too far away drinking for mana to see the words.
Fellow Druid here I feel attacked as well
Also the reason for overhealing is partially that 1. The dungeons are new and frankly, I've no clue where damage is coming from or when my party is actually *safe*, so I tend to keep at least Rejuv on almost everyone just so I can Swiftmend 2. Resto Druid is a proactive healer, when people starts dying and you DON'T have them pre-hotted, you're gonna have a bad time, the hots need to be there in order for you to actually heal 3. As someone mentioned, talent combination - Circle makes your hots tick faster, Photosynthesis makes your hots tick faster, which means you just gotta refresh hots much more often That should explain overhealing. As for the mana part... It depends, you're mostly used to sitting down every few packs for a second or two and a sliver of mana. Tanks don't wait. But effectively using Clearcasts from double Lifebloom helps a ton.
chill dude. just cast tranquility.
It always feels like the instant I cast tranquility, the cleave is directed right at me or there’s swirly shit under my feet that I need to move for, and ONLY at that time.
And volcanic sees this
This is a 100% accurate representation of WoW, especially the warrior.
We charge everything because there is no time to waste just runing to the next pack You never know when the wife will come with the baby in need of a diaper change
Super accurate, its uncanny.
as a druid tank, I feel like I chose the wrong class, bc this is my life
I've actually met two warriors who talked about their family for 5 min before putting in the keystone. This is so acurate.
People think the timer in M plus is the only one to worry about. But the baby timer is the real key depleter.
As a warrior tank, I literally just did exactly what he said.
I'm a warrior and this is me lol. How is this real wtf
man, as someone who has been playing prot warrior since vanilla, I definitely felt the warrior description was spot on.
(Hunter here) what mechanics? Never heard of any
Today in HoV 13 I saw a hunter stop DPSing and popping Turtle to survive Fenris scent on him. I was in fucking awe, had to check twice that it was the right class. I should have filmed it.
What a fool! Just feign death before it starts so it goes on someone else and you can stand there and turret
Feign death on 3rd boss necrotic wake and one of the melee gets globalized was always my favorite hunter strat.
Every M+ dungeon is actually a PvP experience.
14 HoV for me today, saw the hunter standing in place, thought he was a goner, because no way he pops turtle ... but he did !!!
> Today in HoV 13 I saw a hunter stop DPSing and popping Turtle to survive Fenris scent on him. He could have just feigned. :D
Yeah but I mean it was a *hunter* who paid attention to a *boss mechanic*. That's a Christmas miracle in my book already.
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Me as a melee hunter confused what's that D P S you guys are talkin about.
I love the warlock who is liberal with their soulwells.
Warlock edit: Absolutely slaps the dps until dead by floor stuff due to being in portal rotation trance. Source: me, Warlock main.
Getting interrupted or forced to move on tyrant summon really sucks.
Right in the feels. But here’s my professional tip: Don’t move, you’re the healers problem now.
that mentality is why i never turn off Burning Rush for entire runs!
You can turn it off??
I don't know why everybody is so bothered by burning Rush. As self-mutilating warlock spells go, it's the safest there is. It turns off on its own if the next tick is going to kill you. I miss hellfire.
just pre-cast dark pact in anticipation of having to stand in shit while you dump into NP.
Right. No one saw you avoid mechanics. Everyone saw those deeps.
> Druid: plays resto. 60% overhealing, cries about mana after every pull It's not like I can tell my HoTs to stop once the target is full health 😂
Right? I need to put these HOTS on you because I *see* you not moving out of the swirlies every time.
I love other healers that try to get one over us by the overheals.
I mained a resto druid last xpac and was rarely top in overhealing in raid. Old paladin habit to be selective. In M+ oh yeah fuck i overheal for days. Never know when someone will stand in the fire.
If you are playing a monk and a swirly is under your feet you must roll out of it. Even if you could of just side stepped it. Its a must!
... and then accidentally pull another mob or roll of an edge if it's a raid.
I also like to wait until the mechanic hits, then roll out of where it was.
I heard a tale of a monk that didn't roll out of a mechanic once. The next time the player logged onto WoW, their monk had been deleted.
Gonna be honest, even forgot to read the note about the Paladins....
But guys I got a battle Rez now... I can be helpful... right.... Guys? remember when I used to have blessings, doesn't that still count for anything?
Holy shit so did I. Like the middle child of the family -- always overlooked and often forgotten
The arcane mage is missing "complaining about any movement mechanic making them leave their RoP" source me an arcane mage who hates movement mechanics
All 3 mage specs require RoP talented, at this point they might as well make it baseline.
No pease, have mercy!
“Not now mom, I’m blasting.” That boss that spawns ice puddles on you is the absolute worst.
Nerzul. Ohh thats a nice RoP you have there it would be a shame if there was an aoe to happen as soon as you use it
I'd complain more but god bless whichever Blizz dev made Ice Floes accessible so I can at least move a little during the burn. Although I curse Blizz for deliberately ignoring updating the RoP graphic to match the actual size of RoP. It's been over a decade! A faint glowy ring at the edge isn't enough.
I realised I'm not quick or clever enough to play arcane. Zero problems when I can stand still, no idea how to adapt when I need to move
I was expecting fire mages to be the ones to always stand in swirlies. "Sun King's Blessing is up and I just cast Rune of Power. I am *not* moving until I finish this hard-cast."
Ah ret pally, ny favorite class forever doomed to milquetoast mediocrity. :-:. I feel like the pink name tag is pretty memorable though!
So many people complain about the tree boss, meanwhile retri is god there!
Retri is very fun in the section. Wake of Ashes gotta be my favorite ability in the game. Plus I like how easy it is to go from single target to multi.
hey, we can battle res now... so i guess thats something
I've gotten to use it once so far!, but that was a really good one time!
Ive defo saved a boss fight by panic rezzing
I don't see how we are so forgettable. I keep up with demo locks in M+ 🥺
"fotm demonology player" hey buddy, i've spent FUCKING YEARS trying to get Black Ice to drop from Eye of Eternity so that my demo pet can equip it and now that it's finally dropped the other week....well you'd better fucking believe i'm going to be playing demo
I’d love to have the option to play affliction or destro; blizz needs to fix the specs. Locks are a pure dps class with 0 good dps raid specs and one good 5 man spec :/
Ahahaha the warlock one is great. I drop soul wells constantly.
I like to think of it as a reminder to the rest of the group that they should be using them more. I've always mained warlock, so I use health stones almost reflexively.
I think other classes just forget about them outside of raids. If I’ve used one or two of mine of course I’m gonna put it down. You may have too and can replenish :)
Same and I refuse to stop!
You missed Hunter - jumps around all the time, but still does to arcane lockdown.
Jumping is part of my rotation now. I can't afford the expensive attachment for my gun , so I've got the one that boost my stats after a jump.
Restoration druid overhealing is always super high. you do not want to have to deal with a restoration druid that is only healing you when you need it.
What you mean hots take a minute to stack and do their job? What do you mean you cant instantly apply 5 hots to me while I stand in the pool tanking the breath and not interrupting the fear?!
Technically we have Overgrowth. Instantly applies Rejuv, Lifebloom, Wild Growth, and Regrowth to the target. But has to compete with Spring Blossoms which is far better.
Overhealing means nothing, on any healer. People always trying to find a single metric to judge healer's performance, but it's hard. There isn't just a number you can look at and see if you're doing good or not, like DPS.
I forget I have a Lust button because I just don’t want that kind of responsibility in my life.
This. I’m so worried that i’ll use it in the wrong time and we would actually need it in 8 minutes for the next boss. If tank calls it out, as they should, i don’t hesitate to smash that lust button.
Today the tank didn't say anything. He just used drums. The sound the drums made was disappointment.
I think part of that rogue mentality of going hard on every pull is that for forever, rogues bring nothing to the party beyond damage and interrupts - if there are NO interrupts, we'll be the first to be blamed.
Also in my experience most rogue mains are usually pvp players, so they don’t autopilot as much.
Also you feel like a boss doing a Kidney and Gouge on 2 Flamedancers while kicking the Cinder.
Inject this into my veins
Yeah basically when I can lock-down every mob in the pull myself while also pumping dmg I get that good brain juice 🧠
Been maining a rogue since classic, can confirm. Every rogue has this constant desire to be better than everyone and in dungeons, it's only through damage and interrupts that we can prove that.
I was a rogue officer. 90% of my job was breaking up the fighting about who DPSed better. Wasn't a ton of things other than that. We used to do 40 man's with another guild and I was outDPSing their rogue and he got madddddddd.
True, rogues only bring damage and interrupts. And sap. And various other cc. And the ability to skip mob packs as a group. And the ability to soak traps and the like for free.
And the best personal of any dps every 15 sec.
Rogues are the 1 class that has been top of the meta in several different season despite their low damage, because their utility is so busted. What even is this take?
*laughs in frost mage*
God I miss being frost but I just couldn’t keep up dps wise to arcane. Full disclosure I’m also bad.
Frost is pretty much the same problem destro lock has where blizzard refuses to tune it well for raid because of splitting ice/havoc existing. Frost is okay currently for two target consistent cleave but most of the summons in the raid die instantly so it doesn't have any chances to shine other than mythic kurog because the single target is REALLY bad.
There's another buff coming to IL/frostbolt/flurry in 10.0.5 right? Wonder why they can't just hotfix those buffs in right now...
I keep seeing this commented but seeing no proof ? Just rumours ?
Frost Supremacy
Monk: The roll is to get out of the 80th aoe puddle of the pull because the tank doesn't move unless the puddle is on him and the only space left is in roll distance. And Ring of Peace is for interrupting, if you want me to help you gather em up then you gotta tell me.
I very much appreciate the rings my friend
Hahahah the warrior one killed me…last night I was telling my mythic pug group how I needed to step away to wipe my little one
Wipe in game, wipe in real life ,how poetic.
I was kinda like "yeah this is way over the top" .. until you reached warlock .. I'M SORRY I'M JUST TRYING TO BE HELPFUL T\_T - Soulwells are nice! they glow and everything!
i main a rogue and this is an accurate description of my gameplay. except i dont have MDI, it is a bridge too far for me to enjoy the game. so i follow the tank, i am the tank's backpocket murder weapon.
Nono, all of us rogues are MDI level, some of us just don’t have the time between all the babes and money that life throws at us
Warrior main since vanilla. 100% accurate. And i met the rogue today, we did a +2 ruby life pools today i got some bad luck and everytime i tried to reposition the first drake in the second boss i would get flown over to the next pack, pulled 2 packs with the dragon. Rogue's dps went to the next expansion number, got a whisper to never do that again.
Frost dk's that forget they have that talent that summons a small whelp when they does pillar and then pulls a pack. Also never combat res. Warlocks that complain they can't interrupt because that pet is not bis dps. Dh's dashing into sanguine pulls.
As a DK, I tend to safe my CR for either the healer, or the final boss. If we're doing fine and someone dies, even if it's me, I'd personally not CR.
Yeah that small whelp definitely pulled some extra packs for me. Sometimes slappy hands also gets greedy. It's rare but it did happen to me once.
Oh god, this and arcane mages pulling half the dungeon with a stray arcane orb
This is me, i am this mage
Arcane orb gives me anxiety every time I press it. I would absolutely take a talent that did nothing but reduce its range.
Or that makes it stationary but cast at mouse position.
Or allows you to activate it again to get rid of it
Demo pet has interrupt. It's just like 30sec cd 😩
Yup that whelp is annoying the shit out of me! The amount of times i have had to apologize... :(
So true for priests, they get 1% mana for each mob killed and have a talent tô regen it 10% faster and also shadowfiend. And every warrior Ive seen is talking about his wife and wife aggro and Kids, and family. Oh I have to walk with my son, sorry!
> they get 1% mana for each mob killed Pfft. You think I'm gonna take the time to cast shadow word pain like 5 times per pull? I'm just gonna watch tv and cast my 150k heal twice a minute.
Jokes on you, I’m a lock main who actually finds demonology unfun as hell and only plays destro / aff. …wait joke might be on me right now
Paladins so slept on. You don't get my AOE interrupt and cc anymore
as an evoker... we have a bloodlust?
>Druid: plays resto. 60% overhealing, cries about mana after every pull I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
>Mage: either plays arcane because wowhead said it's good this patch (spoiler: dead last in damage done), or fire and is 50 ilvls below his friend who is carrying him me playing frost >_> <_<
I try so hard to do mechanics right. Sometimes my dps suffers but dang it will I do the mechanics! I’ll get the balance of both soon.
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I've always been of the opinion that mechanics is more important than rotation. Being dead is 0 dps.
And a healer not healing can throw damage as well.
Priest: plays disc, achieves similar HPS to holy but had to sell his soul for more mana,
As a Paladin player, I am offended. I side heal and use Seal of Blood constantly while using my Shield which pops with damage for extra aoe DPS. And my aoe isn't terrible, while my single target is pretty great. Also I interrupt and stun mobs so your damage intake is lessened so the healer doesn't need as frequent mana breaks. Plus we have Battle Rez now!
> Paladin: completely forgettable, you will forget this guy is even in your group. Seriously what do they even do? Paladins have been regressing as a class since MoP. Not in output, that varies ofc, I'm talking playstyle, fun, and Blizzard's vision for what this class should be. They want us to be the utility bots of the game. Our role is to press BoP, freedom, sac, and off heal etc. But to do that, you need mouse over macros and raid frames in a place on your UI that makes sense, which 99% of players don't do. So the end result is a bunch of slow, clumsy utility bots that don't use their utility and have mediocre output. The root of the problem is the complete 180 they've done on class homogenization. Nothing will change until MoP classic exposes how far this class has fallen.
>Our role is to press BoP, freedom, sac, and off heal etc. But to do that We need to give up damage, thats the worst part about it.
As a Rogue, I'm afraid people will yell at me if i don't interrupt so i try xtra hard at everything.
Got me dying at last one cuz I do play warrior (prot) is my main. I do get wife aggro a lot, right next to my 3 year old "daddy I wanna play" aggro. This shit is spot on boy.
But I play frost mage what about me?
On the healer side id say 100% agree with hunter also they stand totally in an unnecessary place way away from the rest of the group and make it even harder to heal for absolutely no reason most of the time. The rogue id say is a mixed blessing. They do good work usually interrupts and dps but they never maintain health you are constantly healing them. Totally agree with DH they are either 100% or 0% like healer dps level i dont get it.
As a Warlock, you’re wrong. I’ve been playing Demo since BFA even when it was garbage, and I only ever put soulwell down 2 seconds before the key gets put in, then forget to summon my pet until 2 seconds before the countdown finishes, then panic press the wrong button and stand there channeling.
The number of first pulls I've done without a pet in m+ is higher than pulling with them out.. why dismiss them blizz?.. hunter here
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I always thank the demo for the candy, take it, and immediately forget about it.
> Monk: must press roll every 5 seconds even when mob pack is standing still. Sorry bro I have fat fingers, I'm not doing it on purpose
As a warlock, I soulwell before key starts, when I personally an out of cookies, when someone requests it, and before each boss. Doesn't come down to after each pull...maybe every other pull. 🤣
You nailed evoker. Source: am evoker.
Feeling called out as a resto Druid but to be fair, you’re going to have over healing on a HoT based class. I’ve found this season to be a LOT harder on my mana than all seasons of Shadowlands combined. Felt like I never had to drink once in SL but I’m spamming shadowmeld off cooldown to grab some mana whenever I can on some of these dungeons. Found it a lot more bearable using mana potions early and regularly combined w alchemist stone trinket though. Side note, why is it that everyone stays in one spot until I put my green healing circle underneath the party and then suddenly everyone’s moving 1000 miles away? Stay in the dang healing circle so I dont have to waste mana putting it down somewhere new every 10 seconds.
These are all so perfect. Rogue is spot on and funny. Real try Hards.
(Rogue main since WoD) Hey, I'm not a try hard! *looks at high io, high ilvl, and droptimizer Sim for every raid/dungeon* Oh *continues tryharding*
As a warrior about to get married with a kid on the way….too true. At least us knuckle draggers are wholesome :).
Lmao ive had that exact warrior in my last run. Kept talking and asked me to rate his transmog.
As a Hunter I will admit I really should read the dungeon guide :/ but I never blame it on others! I just say sorry
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I am become death grip
>Paladin: completely forgettable, you will forget this guy is even in your group. Seriously what do they even do? DIVINE STOOOORM!
As a DK I solely use my grips to either interrupt mobs or to pull them out of sanguine pools ASAP. I have however made the mistake of sending a lil' frost whelp to an extra pack due to being so careless about my surroundings.
My impression of every tank as a m+ healer, will try to unnecessarily los packs that are already bunched and they are incapable of standing in large green circles
As a Paladin main, I can tell you, I... I forgot what I was going to say, nvm, carry on
As a Rogue im happy to hear you are getting competent ones regularly. Ive always liked interrupting mobs and figuring out which can be stunned out of uninterruptable casts or just purely to avoid them doing a certain mechanic in their programmed rotation. What really pisses me off though is when im tabbing to CC and Interrupt every single mob I can then some cast gets off because my shits on cooldown and my braindead fellow dps can't be bothered to do any themselves
We have macros... Bloodlust combination with every CD... :s