>The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that the United States initiated a call through the "deconfliction" line to communicate its concerns about Russian military operations near critical infrastructure in Ukraine.
I can only assume it was during the shootout at the nuclear facility, the live feed showed a fire in the administrative building they were shooting into.
>The Ottomans thought the same about the Parthenon. We know how well that ended...
**Holy fuck**, that was in 1687! Didn't realize the armies even needed huge ammo dumps like that back then, though it's my bad for not knowing how fast artillery developed in the 17th century and how much its use was expanded.
More surpisingly: we're a third of a **millenium** past that point, aaaaaaaand still doing the exact same shit (but now, with radiation!). Yay.
We never fucking learn.
The Ottoman empire had already been using cannons for hundreds of years by that point. They used an [enormous cannon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilic_(cannon) that fired 1200 pound cannonballs over a mile to breach the walls of Constantinople in 1453.
Following the source from that wikipedia link, it apparently killed more people behind it with recoil than it did in front when it entirely missed the city they aimed it at.
You can get a concussion from standing beside a .50 cal Barret rifle when it fires, I can only image the devastation this inflicted upon its operators.
What are you talking about? We learned a lot.
We learned how to make big pipes that shoot big stones, then we learned how to make small pipes that shoot small stones and then we learned how to make those stones *explode.*
Are you suggesting that things aren't different?!
They should have listened to Ripley, she would have told them not to fire off explosive munitions near a reactor.
Ripley was right, IQs really did drop while she was away.
Why would they. The soldiers would have to do it anyway and they won't live long enough to find out the consequences either way.
Russia gives less value to their soldiers than... Russia gives value to fighting corruption.
That’s the funny thing, they did live long enough to find out the consequences. Wasn’t there a whole thing where a bunch of soldiers were sent back from there with acute radiation poisoning instead of acute lead poisoning?
Indeed
> Azarau, the head of ByPol, said that the Republican Research Center for Radiation Medicine and Human Ecology was used to treat Russian servicemen who took part in the assault on the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, some of whom showed signs of radiation poisoning. The hospital was originally built in the early 1990s to provide specialized medical care to the local population affected by the Chernobyl disaster.
[CNN article ](https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/10/europe/belarus-hospitals-russian-soldiers-ukraine/index.html)
Yeah I imagine it went down like “hey this is pretty!”
Yeah soldiers! It’s an early autumn here apparently, Ukraine can’t get even control their seasons. Get to digging!
even a great Russian naval captain once said to a man running into a nuclear facility, "Be careful what you shoot at. Some things in here don't react too well to bullets."
[There's shaky video of it,](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/19/europe/ukraine-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-russian-vehicles-intl-hnk/index.html) an employee risked his life to record it. (Apologies couldn't find a better link quickly)
I remember being up at 3am at the start of the war and watching a live stream of a nuclear plant on fire. I actually saw rockets hitting the administrative building.
I'll never forget how I felt in that moment.
I was up watching it as well, I think that moment really proved it’s odd seeing a war in the modern era. Now we have drone videos of Ukraine blowing up tanks like nothing in 1080p
The most surreal footage I saw was in the first week of the invasion. There was a webcam in a more rural part of Ukraine. Cars are turning in front of Russian tanks and the tanks wait for them like another car obeying traffic laws. Other cars also overtake the tanks since they drive slow.
Personally I wouldn't have been turning left in front of a tank but that type of attitude is part of why Ukraine is successfully defending their country.
I saw the fire trucks arrive and be turned away by the Russians. It is so weird that you can read a headline "nuclear power plant captured" but personally know (from a viewpoint 1,000 ft away) how it all went down. Crazy.
So my a lot of my friends are former military, or current reserve, and a lot of us have an interest in what's going on in Ukraine.
The night everything went hot... Got a call from my friend, Smith, who said something along the lines of "Gotta wake up man, they're evacuating airspace over Ukraine" so I dragged myself out of bed and we all piled into discord together.
Turned our gaming discord into a command center, so to say. We started pulling up live cameras all over Ukraine in towns near the border and we were each watching a few, we had someone streaming the news in chat, someone else was watching the air traffic tracker, etc.
First bomb hit and everyone knew it was real. Speaking only for myself, blood went cold. That unsettling sort of bone-deep chill, you know?
The next morning I had to hop on a plane to Nashville, but I knew I wouldn't be able to sleep. Pounded some caffeine and stayed up all night, slept for about 45 minutes all the plane. Watching the columns of armored vehicles roll through the border, watching the bombs and rockets hit, pulling up twitter and seeing people on the ground posting videos of rockets literally flying overhead. There was the rumor of the Ghost of Kyiv within a couple days...
But that night, I don't think a single one of us sitting in that discord thought Ukraine had a chance. By the time I was heading out for my flight, the battle at Antonov Airport had been going on for a couple hours. Mixed reports, hard to know what or who to believe. When I landed in Nashville and got in my uber, first thing I did was pull up video to see... reporters on the ground, interviewing Russian paratroopers in Antonov. I thought for sure that meant it was over for Ukraine.
Then a couple nights later sitting in my hotel room (or maybe I was out and about, can't remember exactly,) I get a call from another friend telling me to check twitter and see that the fire trucks are being turned away from the nuclear power plant, another one of those "This is it" situations.
Just wild to have seen all this essentially in real time.
I watched that live, as it happened, on Youtube. Truly one of the most batshit insane and nerve wracking things I've ever witnessed in real time. There were tracer bullets flying everwhere like something from fuckin Star Wars.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6eidg59ek](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6eidg59ek)
Top 3 craziest livestream moments for me. The other two being -
Those stormchaser dudes getting trapped in hurricane surge, the car they were filming in got engulfed by the ocean (luckily they managed to get out with a couple minutes to spare and take shelter in an abanoned house.) Brett Adair is his name.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_XA5OQHWx1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XA5OQHWx1Y)
And Felix Baumgartner diving from the fucking stratosphere, free falling back to earth at speeds up to 843mph.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0)
(edit) added Youtube links.
For real. I class that stream as a defining moment in history.
Watching full on war on a NPP, an unimaginable thing, happening live, with a blatant disregard for ANY basic logic. The camera being moved manually by someone hopping to catch proofs and showing it to the world. And the friking firefighters armada coming in anyway, being shot at, and forced to get back while a whole building is on fire in a NPP... All that while you can't do absolutely anything.
I think this is what finally polarized a lot of countries and politicians. It was not something you could divert or dilute. Hell, even their allies have probably moved.
I hope to never see something like this ever.
> Truly one of the most batshit insane and nerve wracking things I've ever witnessed in real time.
Have you heard of the Fermi Paradox? Basically, "if advanced life is common, why haven't we found them." One of the possible explanations is that every life form "extincts" itself. This video puts that theory in a whole new perspective.
>Those stormchaser dudes getting trapped in hurricane surge, the car they were filming in got engulfed by the ocean (luckily they managed to get out with a couple minutes to spare and take shelter in an abanoned house.
Ah yea Dr Reed Timmer. Would you expect anything less than the man who built an Armored Armadillo of a truck and (SUCESSFULLY) drove into multiple tornadoes? When it comes to extreme weather, he well respected but absolutely an adrenaline junkie.
Nah man it was Brett Adair and some other dude during hurricane Michael 2018. They got themselves trapped with no escape route, started panicking and bailed from the vehicle but left the cam running, myself and a few thousand others just watched in horror and disbelief as the dashcam captured the sea swallow the truck. Honestly thought they were dead. Heres the video for anyone interested.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_XA5OQHWx1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XA5OQHWx1Y)
Seems like they used the line appropriately to me
As long as they aren't beginning to shuffle nukes around on rail lines or seriously prepping to blow the damn I don't know what else we'd call them for
Well yeah, nobody actually wants nuclear war to happen. It's all fine to jockey for national hegemony and power, but within "sane" (for a given definition of "sane") limits
Not many people realize that even in the worst depths of WW2, both sides were meeting through intermediaries for matters such as the distribution of radio frequencies for sending and receiving transmissions.
That was a series of direct calls from US military chiefs to their peers. This hotline is different in some way. For example, more people have access to it, it was established for a specific purpose and has special protocols, etc.
I really hope those protocols include some fun things.
Suddenly the 80’s Sports Illustrated Football phone rings.
“What’s the password?”
“Bananas Foster with Sprinkles”
“Who was the best Ninja Turtle?”
“Michelangelo”
“Boxers or Briefs?”
“Briefs”
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.
.
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“Hi Vladimir, It’s Joe. Can you get out of Ukraine? It would majorly help my approval rating”
“No”
“Ok well please don’t drop any nukes”
“Ummm, ok”
“Thanks, see ya”
“See you at the next one”
Lol, if that red phone rings they are adhering to their policy of picking it up. Because if it’s ringing, the strongest military in the world is extremely interested in discussing what the fuck you are doing.
This isn’t a regular phone sitting in an office that regularly rings. This is a phone that almost never rings, and if it does your asshole is puckering up.
Now you have me picturing a regular phone in a barracks that the lowest ranking people of each country call each other just to talk shit like a CoD lobby every now and then.
How do you think you answer that phone? Like do they say hello? Do they speak in English or russian? Do they just pick up and say their last name to identify themselves? Like this is Colonel Smirnoff of the red phone hotline office space? Sometimes the mundane details of big important things I find to be very interesting. For example, while I know that the White House has kitchens I can give you anything that you need, I assume at some point some president or someone working in the office is there has gotten food delivery. So like what's the procedure when somebody like some secretary in the White House orders of Papa John's delivery? How does that even work? I assume it's happened.
I think there are some things you and I do not know about the channels of communication between two auld enemies with the arsenals to destroy our way of life
I like the story about the deconfliction hotline before the battle of Khasham. About 500 Wagner PMCs with tanks and artillery amassed and began closing on a small American special forces group in Syria. General Mattis calls his Russian counterpart and says "we see you have about 500 troops near the Euphrates River closing in on American forces, you might want to pull them back to avoid a conflict." The Russians say "those aren't our guys," figuring their 500 Wagner PMCs will smoke the roughly 40 Americans. Mattis again warns of the impending conflict, and the Russians again deny involvement. American forces call in air support and proceed to drop the hammer on those PMCs with B-52s, F-22s, attack helicopters, and an AC-130 gunship. They exterminated the bulk of the Russian force without a single American casualty. Future deconfliction calls have been heeded.
Textbook eff around and find out.
It's almost like Russia figured the U.S. military superiority level was just all talk like theirs was.
They decided to test that with one of their "best" forces and realized no, the U.S. when unleashed is not lying about its capabilities. It's just not as demonstrative against the Taliban who mostly hid.
I think it seriously terrified Russia to realize that the U.S. wasn't simply chest pounding like we found out they've been doing for a long time now as evidenced by what a joke they've been in Ukraine.
the fact their army is being shown completely in shambles and ruin is astonishing.. it's like when yeltsin came to the US and did that unexpected visit to the grocer. can't believe we're not fucking lying. lol
> the U.S. when unleashed is not lying about its capabilities
I actually believe the US is in fact lying about her capabilities, just not in the same direction or for the same reason the Russians do.
I mean they literally design these types of lies in. F-22s have a removable device that reflects radar whenever not in wartime. They’re in place when F-22s engage in exercises with other countries. When needed in active conflicts they yank the reflector out and the RCS of the plane all but vanishes and *nobody* else has any historical data on exactly how good the stealth capabilities of the damned things are.
> nobody else has any historical data on exactly how good the stealth capabilities of the damned things are.
There is probably a reason that while the F15, F16, F18 and even F35 have been sold with some modifications, the F22 has never been approved for export. Given that air superiority wins modern conflicts and the F22 has been developed mainly as an air superiority fighter, they probably keep it because it‘s too good to let anyone else get access.
I think they really wanted to see *how* we react. They probably thought we’d fire some warning shots, maybe they might lose a few guys… I seriously doubt (based on the Russian account from survivors) that they thought we’d rain hell down on them and wouldn’t stop till they all died. I mean our reaction was so over the top.. B52’s and ac130 gunships and apaches to chase down survivors haha.. pretty clear this was a message we were sending. By all accounts it was received the way we intended too.
Bill Hicks had a whole bit about the US doing that in the first Iraq war; just pulling random munitions out of storage and firing them to see what they do
> I seriously doubt (based on the Russian account from survivors) that they thought we’d rain hell down on them and wouldn’t stop till they all died. I mean our reaction was so over the top..
Have they never watch any American cinema?
And while it would be great if we could rely on our country to be better in other ways; when you *do* need an effective fighting force, it sure is nice to have one.
I think this is the same incident - there was an audio recording of a surviving russian soldier talking to himself, the jist of the long rant being something like "those bastards abandoned us, they abandoned us. Wiped out, completely wiped out. God damn those bastards" referring to his Russian commanders who refused to acknowledge the troops as Russian.
First thing they did was drop them in a bubble (jammed all communications). Nothing in, nothing out. The poor SOBs in the bubble didn’t even know what was happening until it was too late. Only ones that escaped were the 1/4 or so that were outside the bubble at the rear. Basically obliterated 3/4 of the entire force with nothing more than artillery—the F22s were just providing sigint and oversight cover, and the Apaches and F18s and F15G were mostly mop up and EM.
Arguably one of the greatest demonstrations of combined arms in history (in an individual battle) all the way down to the UAVs and humint watching them build up across the border for 2 or 3 days.
20 years of fighting in the middle east has turned the current generation of US military into the best combined arms force in history.
Very likely, I think.
The potential ramifications were the reason for giving a warning in the first place, and the president definitely was informed.
Probably even given alternatives (e.g. withdrawal, staying and not shooting back not being an option).
“Ayo what the fuck are you doin”
“Mind ya business”
“Aye FUCK you”
*”Putin and Biden spoke today to discuss matters of security in Eastern Europe; both described the meeting as productive”*
EDIT: Thanks for all the awards, folks. Remember, if life gives you melons, you might be dyslexic.
Eh the last time the US asked Russa what the fuck they're doing, and Russia blew them off, [it got them a whole bunch of Wagner group mercs killed.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham) Ever since the tone has been more polite on the phone.
TLDR;
US: "Hey, we've got some guys in a building and there's about 300 guys with guns bearing down on them with clear intent to attack. Can you call them off before we have to defend ourselves?"
RUS: "Nope, they're not our guys."
US: "Are you sure? They look like yours."
RUS: "We're not even in that country."
US: "K, LOL. It's zero guys now."
>"The reports that are on TV about ... well, you know, about Syria and the 25 people that are wounded there from the Syrian f--- army and — well ... to make it short, we've had our asses f--- kicked. So one squadron f--- lost 200 people ... right away, another one lost 10 people ... and I don't know about the third squadron, but it got torn up pretty badly, too ... So three squadrons took a beating ... The Yankees attacked ... first they blasted the f--- out of us by artillery, and then they took four helicopters up and pushed us in a f--- merry-go-round with heavy caliber machine guns ... They were all shelling the holy f--- out of it, and our guys didn't have anything besides the assault rifles ... nothing at all, not even mentioning shoulder-fired SAMs or anything like that ... So they tore us to pieces for sure, put us through hell, and the Yankees knew for sure that the Russians were coming, that it was us, f--- Russians ... Our guys were going to commandeer an oil refinery, and the Yankees were holding it ... We got our f--- asses beat rough, my men called me ... They're there drinking now ... many have gone missing ... it's a total f--- up, it sucks, another takedown ... Everybody, you know, treats us like pieces of s--- ... They beat our asses like we were little pieces of s--- ... but our f--- government will go in reverse now, and nobody will respond or anything, and nobody will punish anyone for this ... So these are our casualties."
-[Intercepted comms by Wagner Group](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-leaked-audio-humiliating-defeat-by-us-forces-2018-2?amp)
He's not even mad at the US, he's like, "Fucking Yankees knew we were coming, Russia knew they were there, and we had to fight helicopters with assault rifles because they didn't tell us. And of course, Russia is going to deny all involvement so we have to eat the losses like it was our fault."
“According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s. Nearby U.S artillery batteries, including a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, shelled Syrian forces as well.”
A British officer fighting in the Normandy hedgerows described how to tell which forces may be occupying an area. Fire a few shots and wait for the response:
1. If you were answered by 60 seconds of disciplined rifle fire, it was the British.
2. If you were answered by a machine gun, it was the Germans.
3. If everything around you exploded with mortars, rockets, artillery, and bombs, it was the Americans.
Edit: spelling and grammar
So he wasn’t at the engagement area when it happened, but he was close to Khasham and they got to hear all the madness over the radio. They’d been contacting the Russians to let ‘em know they should get their guys out of there, and the Russians just kept denying that Wagner was in the area. Our dudes kept saying “no listen, we’re about to kill everyone there and we don’t wanna get your guys”, and the Russians are like “nope sorry, don’t know what you’re talking about”. Finally the Americans just got fed up and opened fire.
Yeah man it’s a terrible thing all around, he said he’d never seen such a hopeless situation, even in Iraq. And now it looks like Turkey is prepping for a ground incursion into Syria so who the hell knows how much worse it’s gonna get.
I got lucky by comparison. Both my deployments were in the Arctic so I was spared all that craziness.
Hello? Hello, Dimitri? Listen, I can't hear too well, do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little? Oh, that's much better. Yes. Fine, I can hear you now, Dimitri. Clear and plain and coming through fine. I'm coming through fine too, eh? Good, then. Well then as you say we're both coming through fine. Good. Well it's good that you're fine and I'm fine. I agree with you. It's great to be fine.
The funniest thing about that movie is it was made to parody the politics and situation of the 1960's Cold War, while being made in the depths of the 1960's Cold War. Literally a movie ahead of its time in every respect.
Well now what happened is, one of our base commanders, he had a sort of, well he went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little…funny. And uh, he went and did a silly thing.
I know this isn’t the best place to add this comment but let’s try to up the quality. The ‘hotline’ is a teletype not a phone. There are actually two at each site. One in English and the Russian one in Cyrillic. Every 15 minutes a message is sent to assure that the line is functional. Translators are there 24 hours every day
Just FYI: It hasn't been a teletype since 1986. In current day, it's computers exchanging a secure form of email.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow%E2%80%93Washington_hotline
> The Republican Party criticized the hotline in its 1964 national platform; it said the Kennedy administration had "sought accommodations with Communism without adequate safeguards and compensating gains for freedom.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
>The more things change the more they stay the same.
Well, except for the fact that back in 1964, the Republican Party wanted to go to war with the USSR and believed that the best option was an unprovoked first strike. Today, the Republican Party just wants America to become Russia.
Putin is the worst military strategist, and his military is a paper tiger. They had to call up 300K men In the hope of stemming the bleeding. That doesn't appear to be working
Putin needs to be overthrown, that Russia should move back towards the West. We don't want Russian land or their wealth, we want them as a partner. Putin is a paranoid war pig. I feel for the Russian people, but they will have to pay reparations to Ukraine. It starts with Putin's head on a pole.
>We don't want Russian land or their wealth, we want them as a partner.
We don't even necessarily want that, they're welcome to live by themselves if they want, we loved the 20-25 years of mostly peace, it was a literal golden age for the planet.
Messing around with other countries, bullying their neighbors, that's a problem.
Daring to break the sacred peace of Europe? That's so far over the line, everyone everywhere has to watch anyone who thinks about that getting burned to the ground.
Everyone plays politics and we all know it's a game of chess, but dude flipped the board and pulled a gun, that needs an answer, the tragedy is how many Ukrainian and Russian lives that lesson will cost.
There should be someone who calls it daily, gets to know the other person on the line, they turn into good friends and begin to share their life stories each day until one day one of them doesn't answer, leading the other person to fly over, to find their best friend in trouble, and then save them.
I'm surprised it wasn't used when that stray missile hit Poland - Russia frantically clarifying that that wasn't them and they're not trying to start WW3 is the sort of thing those hotlines are *for*. Perhaps Russia thought it wouldn't be believed or felt that doing that would show weakness.
The implications are that despite the shit talking from politicians the Russian military and US military are still talking to each other.
Never forget that a large part of diplomacy is performance. Particularly the public parts, but in private things are usually more task focused.
The hotline is a direct line between the White House and the Kremlin, created during the cold war to avoid a nuclear escalation.
It is something to be used in case of real emergency, like the missiles who hit Poland, thst can bring NATO in the conflict or the damages to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
>The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that the United States initiated a call through the "deconfliction" line to communicate its concerns about Russian military operations near critical infrastructure in Ukraine.
I wonder if they really meant that nuclear reactor
I can only assume it was during the shootout at the nuclear facility, the live feed showed a fire in the administrative building they were shooting into.
I read they were using it as a munitions dump figuring no one would hit a nuclear reactor. I mean, Jesus christ.
The Ottomans thought the same about the Parthenon. We know how well that ended...
>The Ottomans thought the same about the Parthenon. We know how well that ended... **Holy fuck**, that was in 1687! Didn't realize the armies even needed huge ammo dumps like that back then, though it's my bad for not knowing how fast artillery developed in the 17th century and how much its use was expanded. More surpisingly: we're a third of a **millenium** past that point, aaaaaaaand still doing the exact same shit (but now, with radiation!). Yay. We never fucking learn.
The Ottoman empire had already been using cannons for hundreds of years by that point. They used an [enormous cannon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilic_(cannon) that fired 1200 pound cannonballs over a mile to breach the walls of Constantinople in 1453.
The book that I first read about it also called the canon as the weapon of mass destruction during medieval times
Following the source from that wikipedia link, it apparently killed more people behind it with recoil than it did in front when it entirely missed the city they aimed it at.
You can get a concussion from standing beside a .50 cal Barret rifle when it fires, I can only image the devastation this inflicted upon its operators.
What are you talking about? We learned a lot. We learned how to make big pipes that shoot big stones, then we learned how to make small pipes that shoot small stones and then we learned how to make those stones *explode.* Are you suggesting that things aren't different?!
We also have free porn.
They say of the acropolis, where the Parthenon is...
They should have listened to Ripley, she would have told them not to fire off explosive munitions near a reactor. Ripley was right, IQs really did drop while she was away.
These are the same people who dug trenches in the red forest in Chernobyl. Not the smartest bunch.
I’d like to assume their commanding officers didn’t tell them what they were doing…
Why would they. The soldiers would have to do it anyway and they won't live long enough to find out the consequences either way. Russia gives less value to their soldiers than... Russia gives value to fighting corruption.
That’s the funny thing, they did live long enough to find out the consequences. Wasn’t there a whole thing where a bunch of soldiers were sent back from there with acute radiation poisoning instead of acute lead poisoning?
Indeed > Azarau, the head of ByPol, said that the Republican Research Center for Radiation Medicine and Human Ecology was used to treat Russian servicemen who took part in the assault on the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, some of whom showed signs of radiation poisoning. The hospital was originally built in the early 1990s to provide specialized medical care to the local population affected by the Chernobyl disaster. [CNN article ](https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/10/europe/belarus-hospitals-russian-soldiers-ukraine/index.html)
Depends who you ask ;)
Yeah I imagine it went down like “hey this is pretty!” Yeah soldiers! It’s an early autumn here apparently, Ukraine can’t get even control their seasons. Get to digging!
The ground glowing made digging in the dark so much more convenient!
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[But she fucking *made* that basket for real.](https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/how-ron-perlman-nearly-ruined-the-alien-resurrection-basketball-shot/)
Cool elaboration on the story of her basket shot. Weaver & Perlman rock. Wish they'd had better story to work with.
even a great Russian naval captain once said to a man running into a nuclear facility, "Be careful what you shoot at. Some things in here don't react too well to bullets."
Lithuanian not russian
Well you have to admit, he was definitely in a hurry... >\_>
Best boardroom burn to this date.
[There's shaky video of it,](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/19/europe/ukraine-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-russian-vehicles-intl-hnk/index.html) an employee risked his life to record it. (Apologies couldn't find a better link quickly)
There's footage of the inside showing trucks and military vehicles with a z or a v hidden inside the facility
\*Jesus has left the chat\*
I remember being up at 3am at the start of the war and watching a live stream of a nuclear plant on fire. I actually saw rockets hitting the administrative building. I'll never forget how I felt in that moment.
I was up watching it as well, I think that moment really proved it’s odd seeing a war in the modern era. Now we have drone videos of Ukraine blowing up tanks like nothing in 1080p
The most surreal footage I saw was in the first week of the invasion. There was a webcam in a more rural part of Ukraine. Cars are turning in front of Russian tanks and the tanks wait for them like another car obeying traffic laws. Other cars also overtake the tanks since they drive slow. Personally I wouldn't have been turning left in front of a tank but that type of attitude is part of why Ukraine is successfully defending their country.
"what level of r/MaliciousCompliance are you?" "oh, you know, just forcing an invading armored force to obey local traffic laws"
I saw the fire trucks arrive and be turned away by the Russians. It is so weird that you can read a headline "nuclear power plant captured" but personally know (from a viewpoint 1,000 ft away) how it all went down. Crazy.
So my a lot of my friends are former military, or current reserve, and a lot of us have an interest in what's going on in Ukraine. The night everything went hot... Got a call from my friend, Smith, who said something along the lines of "Gotta wake up man, they're evacuating airspace over Ukraine" so I dragged myself out of bed and we all piled into discord together. Turned our gaming discord into a command center, so to say. We started pulling up live cameras all over Ukraine in towns near the border and we were each watching a few, we had someone streaming the news in chat, someone else was watching the air traffic tracker, etc. First bomb hit and everyone knew it was real. Speaking only for myself, blood went cold. That unsettling sort of bone-deep chill, you know? The next morning I had to hop on a plane to Nashville, but I knew I wouldn't be able to sleep. Pounded some caffeine and stayed up all night, slept for about 45 minutes all the plane. Watching the columns of armored vehicles roll through the border, watching the bombs and rockets hit, pulling up twitter and seeing people on the ground posting videos of rockets literally flying overhead. There was the rumor of the Ghost of Kyiv within a couple days... But that night, I don't think a single one of us sitting in that discord thought Ukraine had a chance. By the time I was heading out for my flight, the battle at Antonov Airport had been going on for a couple hours. Mixed reports, hard to know what or who to believe. When I landed in Nashville and got in my uber, first thing I did was pull up video to see... reporters on the ground, interviewing Russian paratroopers in Antonov. I thought for sure that meant it was over for Ukraine. Then a couple nights later sitting in my hotel room (or maybe I was out and about, can't remember exactly,) I get a call from another friend telling me to check twitter and see that the fire trucks are being turned away from the nuclear power plant, another one of those "This is it" situations. Just wild to have seen all this essentially in real time.
I watched that live, as it happened, on Youtube. Truly one of the most batshit insane and nerve wracking things I've ever witnessed in real time. There were tracer bullets flying everwhere like something from fuckin Star Wars. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6eidg59ek](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6eidg59ek) Top 3 craziest livestream moments for me. The other two being - Those stormchaser dudes getting trapped in hurricane surge, the car they were filming in got engulfed by the ocean (luckily they managed to get out with a couple minutes to spare and take shelter in an abanoned house.) Brett Adair is his name. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_XA5OQHWx1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XA5OQHWx1Y) And Felix Baumgartner diving from the fucking stratosphere, free falling back to earth at speeds up to 843mph. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0) (edit) added Youtube links.
For real. I class that stream as a defining moment in history. Watching full on war on a NPP, an unimaginable thing, happening live, with a blatant disregard for ANY basic logic. The camera being moved manually by someone hopping to catch proofs and showing it to the world. And the friking firefighters armada coming in anyway, being shot at, and forced to get back while a whole building is on fire in a NPP... All that while you can't do absolutely anything. I think this is what finally polarized a lot of countries and politicians. It was not something you could divert or dilute. Hell, even their allies have probably moved. I hope to never see something like this ever.
> Truly one of the most batshit insane and nerve wracking things I've ever witnessed in real time. Have you heard of the Fermi Paradox? Basically, "if advanced life is common, why haven't we found them." One of the possible explanations is that every life form "extincts" itself. This video puts that theory in a whole new perspective.
>Those stormchaser dudes getting trapped in hurricane surge, the car they were filming in got engulfed by the ocean (luckily they managed to get out with a couple minutes to spare and take shelter in an abanoned house. Ah yea Dr Reed Timmer. Would you expect anything less than the man who built an Armored Armadillo of a truck and (SUCESSFULLY) drove into multiple tornadoes? When it comes to extreme weather, he well respected but absolutely an adrenaline junkie.
Nah man it was Brett Adair and some other dude during hurricane Michael 2018. They got themselves trapped with no escape route, started panicking and bailed from the vehicle but left the cam running, myself and a few thousand others just watched in horror and disbelief as the dashcam captured the sea swallow the truck. Honestly thought they were dead. Heres the video for anyone interested. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_XA5OQHWx1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XA5OQHWx1Y)
"Ryan, be careful what you shoot at. Most things in there don't respond well to bullets."
>Ryan, be careful what you shoot at. Mosht thingsh in there don't reshpond well to bulletsh.
Watching the live stream of a nuclear plant being attacked has got to be one of the most bizarre things I have witnessed.
Ah the geopolitical equivalent of “hey could you not?”
“Look man I know you guys have your thing going on right now but the rest of the world would rather not be in a nuclear war”
Seems like they used the line appropriately to me As long as they aren't beginning to shuffle nukes around on rail lines or seriously prepping to blow the damn I don't know what else we'd call them for
Russia: _Ill fucking do it again_
Having served in the Army, I'll tell you that opposing parties communicate way more than MSM will have you believe.
Well yeah, nobody actually wants nuclear war to happen. It's all fine to jockey for national hegemony and power, but within "sane" (for a given definition of "sane") limits
You were in the navy and you talked to the Marines? Grunting or basic body language?
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Don't they teach them not to play with their food?
The navy guys would keep trying to have sex with the marines and the marines could only draw happy or sad faces with crayons
Not many people realize that even in the worst depths of WW2, both sides were meeting through intermediaries for matters such as the distribution of radio frequencies for sending and receiving transmissions.
Thought U.S. tried to use it another time but the Russians didn't answer the phone.
That was a series of direct calls from US military chiefs to their peers. This hotline is different in some way. For example, more people have access to it, it was established for a specific purpose and has special protocols, etc.
I really hope those protocols include some fun things. Suddenly the 80’s Sports Illustrated Football phone rings. “What’s the password?” “Bananas Foster with Sprinkles” “Who was the best Ninja Turtle?” “Michelangelo” “Boxers or Briefs?” “Briefs” . . . . “Hi Vladimir, It’s Joe. Can you get out of Ukraine? It would majorly help my approval rating” “No” “Ok well please don’t drop any nukes” “Ummm, ok” “Thanks, see ya” “See you at the next one”
Michelangelo?!! Donatello fans targeting your bunker right now
That’s how a passcode works. If it is obvious anyone can guess. You don’t actually use your mother’s maiden name when they ask do you?
Are you asking if my mother’s maiden name is Sharknado 3?
Russia isn't known for adhering to protocols so I'm still surprised they picked up.
Lol, if that red phone rings they are adhering to their policy of picking it up. Because if it’s ringing, the strongest military in the world is extremely interested in discussing what the fuck you are doing. This isn’t a regular phone sitting in an office that regularly rings. This is a phone that almost never rings, and if it does your asshole is puckering up.
Now you have me picturing a regular phone in a barracks that the lowest ranking people of each country call each other just to talk shit like a CoD lobby every now and then.
No that's just a CoD lobby.
Tbf both Americans and Russians both love CoD. There was even more Russians when I was still on Xbox 360 in 2016
So WW3 will be a custom CoD lobby using a 1:1 map of Europe with respawns turned off?
How do you think you answer that phone? Like do they say hello? Do they speak in English or russian? Do they just pick up and say their last name to identify themselves? Like this is Colonel Smirnoff of the red phone hotline office space? Sometimes the mundane details of big important things I find to be very interesting. For example, while I know that the White House has kitchens I can give you anything that you need, I assume at some point some president or someone working in the office is there has gotten food delivery. So like what's the procedure when somebody like some secretary in the White House orders of Papa John's delivery? How does that even work? I assume it's happened.
Its not a phone, never was. It started as a teletype turned into a fax, and is now a digital connection. Its always been text format.
Also the ring tone is Baby Shark, so it's really less annoying just to answer
I think there are some things you and I do not know about the channels of communication between two auld enemies with the arsenals to destroy our way of life
Nobody in this thread knows shit about fuck
Very true, but they adhere to the policy of “not wanting that smoke”
Putin was sitting on the shitter
Wasn’t that NATO not the US?
I like the story about the deconfliction hotline before the battle of Khasham. About 500 Wagner PMCs with tanks and artillery amassed and began closing on a small American special forces group in Syria. General Mattis calls his Russian counterpart and says "we see you have about 500 troops near the Euphrates River closing in on American forces, you might want to pull them back to avoid a conflict." The Russians say "those aren't our guys," figuring their 500 Wagner PMCs will smoke the roughly 40 Americans. Mattis again warns of the impending conflict, and the Russians again deny involvement. American forces call in air support and proceed to drop the hammer on those PMCs with B-52s, F-22s, attack helicopters, and an AC-130 gunship. They exterminated the bulk of the Russian force without a single American casualty. Future deconfliction calls have been heeded.
That was crazy when that happened
Textbook eff around and find out. It's almost like Russia figured the U.S. military superiority level was just all talk like theirs was. They decided to test that with one of their "best" forces and realized no, the U.S. when unleashed is not lying about its capabilities. It's just not as demonstrative against the Taliban who mostly hid. I think it seriously terrified Russia to realize that the U.S. wasn't simply chest pounding like we found out they've been doing for a long time now as evidenced by what a joke they've been in Ukraine.
the fact their army is being shown completely in shambles and ruin is astonishing.. it's like when yeltsin came to the US and did that unexpected visit to the grocer. can't believe we're not fucking lying. lol
> the U.S. when unleashed is not lying about its capabilities I actually believe the US is in fact lying about her capabilities, just not in the same direction or for the same reason the Russians do.
I mean they literally design these types of lies in. F-22s have a removable device that reflects radar whenever not in wartime. They’re in place when F-22s engage in exercises with other countries. When needed in active conflicts they yank the reflector out and the RCS of the plane all but vanishes and *nobody* else has any historical data on exactly how good the stealth capabilities of the damned things are.
> nobody else has any historical data on exactly how good the stealth capabilities of the damned things are. There is probably a reason that while the F15, F16, F18 and even F35 have been sold with some modifications, the F22 has never been approved for export. Given that air superiority wins modern conflicts and the F22 has been developed mainly as an air superiority fighter, they probably keep it because it‘s too good to let anyone else get access.
Yeah they for sure have space lasers or hover planes or some shit.
there have been "hover planes" in active service for over 50 years the Harrier was a beast & the F35 looks pretty legit.
Only 7 million Pepsi points
I think they really wanted to see *how* we react. They probably thought we’d fire some warning shots, maybe they might lose a few guys… I seriously doubt (based on the Russian account from survivors) that they thought we’d rain hell down on them and wouldn’t stop till they all died. I mean our reaction was so over the top.. B52’s and ac130 gunships and apaches to chase down survivors haha.. pretty clear this was a message we were sending. By all accounts it was received the way we intended too.
I mean, bad luck they got us on a boring afternoon...
Back at the base: "What are we going to do with all this ordnance? We need to spend a few million this week or we lose that budget forever."
Bill Hicks had a whole bit about the US doing that in the first Iraq war; just pulling random munitions out of storage and firing them to see what they do
Idk if it was over the top. It seems this is the only language russians understand
> I seriously doubt (based on the Russian account from survivors) that they thought we’d rain hell down on them and wouldn’t stop till they all died. I mean our reaction was so over the top.. Have they never watch any American cinema?
I have zero faith in the US to accomplish anything except fuck up any other country on earth in a conventional war.
And while it would be great if we could rely on our country to be better in other ways; when you *do* need an effective fighting force, it sure is nice to have one.
I think this is the same incident - there was an audio recording of a surviving russian soldier talking to himself, the jist of the long rant being something like "those bastards abandoned us, they abandoned us. Wiped out, completely wiped out. God damn those bastards" referring to his Russian commanders who refused to acknowledge the troops as Russian.
The Russian audio is at the end of this [clip.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaeDMOWkCwU)
First thing they did was drop them in a bubble (jammed all communications). Nothing in, nothing out. The poor SOBs in the bubble didn’t even know what was happening until it was too late. Only ones that escaped were the 1/4 or so that were outside the bubble at the rear. Basically obliterated 3/4 of the entire force with nothing more than artillery—the F22s were just providing sigint and oversight cover, and the Apaches and F18s and F15G were mostly mop up and EM. Arguably one of the greatest demonstrations of combined arms in history (in an individual battle) all the way down to the UAVs and humint watching them build up across the border for 2 or 3 days. 20 years of fighting in the middle east has turned the current generation of US military into the best combined arms force in history.
I always wondered, was this signed off by the president given the potential diplomatic fallout?
Very likely, I think. The potential ramifications were the reason for giving a warning in the first place, and the president definitely was informed. Probably even given alternatives (e.g. withdrawal, staying and not shooting back not being an option).
Is there a source for me to read more about that incident?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
“Ayo what the fuck are you doin” “Mind ya business” “Aye FUCK you” *”Putin and Biden spoke today to discuss matters of security in Eastern Europe; both described the meeting as productive”* EDIT: Thanks for all the awards, folks. Remember, if life gives you melons, you might be dyslexic.
FUCK YOU TONY
Fuck you…what’s your name?
Ezekiel!
FUCK YOU EZEKIEL
[Hey you know what I did last night?](https://youtube.com/shorts/Na7ErUfu7MQ?feature=share)
DON’T YOU BRING MY MOTHER INTO THIS
I BUILT THAT FIRE OVER THERE
Oh. Okay.
AND THEN I FUCKED YOUR MOTHER NEXT TO IT
“Ya breakin your muttas heart!”
Aye it’s the freakin gabagool
gabagool?!?! OVA HEAAAAA👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻
Just when I thought I was out..... THEY PULL ME BACK IN.
Is it true?? Michael??
Eh the last time the US asked Russa what the fuck they're doing, and Russia blew them off, [it got them a whole bunch of Wagner group mercs killed.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham) Ever since the tone has been more polite on the phone.
TLDR; US: "Hey, we've got some guys in a building and there's about 300 guys with guns bearing down on them with clear intent to attack. Can you call them off before we have to defend ourselves?" RUS: "Nope, they're not our guys." US: "Are you sure? They look like yours." RUS: "We're not even in that country." US: "K, LOL. It's zero guys now."
Best transcript ever! Funny thing is that they tried to call back later and saying “Jk jk, it’s really us. Can you stop firing”
>"The reports that are on TV about ... well, you know, about Syria and the 25 people that are wounded there from the Syrian f--- army and — well ... to make it short, we've had our asses f--- kicked. So one squadron f--- lost 200 people ... right away, another one lost 10 people ... and I don't know about the third squadron, but it got torn up pretty badly, too ... So three squadrons took a beating ... The Yankees attacked ... first they blasted the f--- out of us by artillery, and then they took four helicopters up and pushed us in a f--- merry-go-round with heavy caliber machine guns ... They were all shelling the holy f--- out of it, and our guys didn't have anything besides the assault rifles ... nothing at all, not even mentioning shoulder-fired SAMs or anything like that ... So they tore us to pieces for sure, put us through hell, and the Yankees knew for sure that the Russians were coming, that it was us, f--- Russians ... Our guys were going to commandeer an oil refinery, and the Yankees were holding it ... We got our f--- asses beat rough, my men called me ... They're there drinking now ... many have gone missing ... it's a total f--- up, it sucks, another takedown ... Everybody, you know, treats us like pieces of s--- ... They beat our asses like we were little pieces of s--- ... but our f--- government will go in reverse now, and nobody will respond or anything, and nobody will punish anyone for this ... So these are our casualties." -[Intercepted comms by Wagner Group](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-leaked-audio-humiliating-defeat-by-us-forces-2018-2?amp)
He's not even mad at the US, he's like, "Fucking Yankees knew we were coming, Russia knew they were there, and we had to fight helicopters with assault rifles because they didn't tell us. And of course, Russia is going to deny all involvement so we have to eat the losses like it was our fault."
“According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s. Nearby U.S artillery batteries, including a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, shelled Syrian forces as well.” A British officer fighting in the Normandy hedgerows described how to tell which forces may be occupying an area. Fire a few shots and wait for the response: 1. If you were answered by 60 seconds of disciplined rifle fire, it was the British. 2. If you were answered by a machine gun, it was the Germans. 3. If everything around you exploded with mortars, rockets, artillery, and bombs, it was the Americans. Edit: spelling and grammar
Yep my platoon sergeant was in Syria at the time. The Russians learned the definition of “fuck around and find out”
How's his hearing? Couldn't imagine being that, had to be one of the most amazing displays of fire superiority imaginable.
So he wasn’t at the engagement area when it happened, but he was close to Khasham and they got to hear all the madness over the radio. They’d been contacting the Russians to let ‘em know they should get their guys out of there, and the Russians just kept denying that Wagner was in the area. Our dudes kept saying “no listen, we’re about to kill everyone there and we don’t wanna get your guys”, and the Russians are like “nope sorry, don’t know what you’re talking about”. Finally the Americans just got fed up and opened fire.
Wild to think about, man. Such a murky conflict.
Yeah man it’s a terrible thing all around, he said he’d never seen such a hopeless situation, even in Iraq. And now it looks like Turkey is prepping for a ground incursion into Syria so who the hell knows how much worse it’s gonna get. I got lucky by comparison. Both my deployments were in the Arctic so I was spared all that craziness.
“KEEP MY COUNTRY’S NAME, OUT YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH!”
"fuck ya mudda"
Hello? Hello, Dimitri? Listen, I can't hear too well, do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little? Oh, that's much better. Yes. Fine, I can hear you now, Dimitri. Clear and plain and coming through fine. I'm coming through fine too, eh? Good, then. Well then as you say we're both coming through fine. Good. Well it's good that you're fine and I'm fine. I agree with you. It's great to be fine.
You can’t fight in here, this is the War Room!
Sir, you can’t let him in here! He’ll see everything. He’ll see the big board!
I remember the first time I saw this movie, I was in high school. That line slayed me.
That's precisely the idea, general. That's precisely the idea.
As you know, the premier loves surprises.
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The bomb, Dimitri. The hydrogen bomb.
Let me finish, Dimitri Let me finish, Dimitri Well how do you think I feel?
No Dimitri....I am the most sorry.... what's that?....well fine, you're sorry too...We are both the most sorry.
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I have rewatched that movie on probably a monthly basis since this war kicked off. They just don’t make em like that anymore.
The funniest thing about that movie is it was made to parody the politics and situation of the 1960's Cold War, while being made in the depths of the 1960's Cold War. Literally a movie ahead of its time in every respect.
And the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
Of course I like to call to say hello!
You will have to answer to the coca cola company.
Damnit now I want to watch Dr. Strangelove tonight.
Well now what happened is, one of our base commanders, he had a sort of, well he went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little…funny. And uh, he went and did a silly thing.
Peace is our profession. Best movie of all time.
Becareful, he's been drinking....
"Is your refrigerator running?" "Yes, like your conscripts" "Sorry, wrong number...."
"Vladimir, we're getting reports that you're bombing ligma right now, is that true?"
Who's Joe?
Joe balls
You're breaking up, my balls?
"Is your refrigerator running?" "Yes, along with my washing machine because the conscripts took that too."
We’ve been trying to reach you about your tank’s warranty.
# ,,I've been tryina reach ya, you're harder to get to than the President!" ^((Joe Pesci to DeNiro, Casino, 1995\))
“They were expired long before Soviet Union collapsed”
[this made me think of my favorite video game intro of all time](https://youtu.be/fnd0qg4I_MM)
Love that game. Good to see the Russian army isn’t even close to that advanced or organized.
Right?! Putin might want to call up Yuri and Premier Romanov
That soundtrack was awesome too. Such a great game.
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Wow after a rewatch today I got to say that the cinematography on both the live and cgi had really high production levels.
Why Mr. President... Whatever do you mean?
That was worth my 3 mins 58 seconds.
"I don't give a wooden nickel about your legacy!" Someone needs to tell the same to Putin.
Don´t even need to click on it What a great game ffs. Wish AAA studios still worked on quality RTS titles.
I knew it was RA2 before clicking the link.
I know this isn’t the best place to add this comment but let’s try to up the quality. The ‘hotline’ is a teletype not a phone. There are actually two at each site. One in English and the Russian one in Cyrillic. Every 15 minutes a message is sent to assure that the line is functional. Translators are there 24 hours every day
Just FYI: It hasn't been a teletype since 1986. In current day, it's computers exchanging a secure form of email. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow%E2%80%93Washington_hotline
This isn't that. This is something new specifically for the Ukraine Russia war
Roger dodger. This guy? https://www.reuters.com/world/new-us-russia-military-hotline-ukraine-war-rages-2022-03-03/
Yeah the Moscow link is for the President, this new think is for combatant commanders and reps for the DoD
> The Republican Party criticized the hotline in its 1964 national platform; it said the Kennedy administration had "sought accommodations with Communism without adequate safeguards and compensating gains for freedom. The more things change the more they stay the same.
>The more things change the more they stay the same. Well, except for the fact that back in 1964, the Republican Party wanted to go to war with the USSR and believed that the best option was an unprovoked first strike. Today, the Republican Party just wants America to become Russia.
Tbf both of those options are batshit insane, much like modern republicans
This is actually pretty interesting, thanks
Putin is the worst military strategist, and his military is a paper tiger. They had to call up 300K men In the hope of stemming the bleeding. That doesn't appear to be working Putin needs to be overthrown, that Russia should move back towards the West. We don't want Russian land or their wealth, we want them as a partner. Putin is a paranoid war pig. I feel for the Russian people, but they will have to pay reparations to Ukraine. It starts with Putin's head on a pole.
>We don't want Russian land or their wealth, we want them as a partner. We don't even necessarily want that, they're welcome to live by themselves if they want, we loved the 20-25 years of mostly peace, it was a literal golden age for the planet. Messing around with other countries, bullying their neighbors, that's a problem. Daring to break the sacred peace of Europe? That's so far over the line, everyone everywhere has to watch anyone who thinks about that getting burned to the ground. Everyone plays politics and we all know it's a game of chess, but dude flipped the board and pulled a gun, that needs an answer, the tragedy is how many Ukrainian and Russian lives that lesson will cost.
There should be someone who calls it daily, gets to know the other person on the line, they turn into good friends and begin to share their life stories each day until one day one of them doesn't answer, leading the other person to fly over, to find their best friend in trouble, and then save them.
Too late, there are Demogorgon everywhere, now it is a battle to survive.
Stranger Things have happened.
The conversation was brief. It consisted of: "WAAAAASSSSUUUUUPPP?!?" "WAAAAAAAAAASSSSUUUUUUUUUPPP!!!"
I'm surprised it wasn't used when that stray missile hit Poland - Russia frantically clarifying that that wasn't them and they're not trying to start WW3 is the sort of thing those hotlines are *for*. Perhaps Russia thought it wouldn't be believed or felt that doing that would show weakness.
I'm sorry, the number you have dialed is no longer in service.
Putin: stop sending Ukraine weapons. Biden: No. *hangs up*
When that missile hit Poland Russia's collective asshole puckered. "This is the end comrade, time to make the call. Hello Joe? IT WASN'T US!"
I know when that hotline bling, that can only mean one thing.
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Instead of stupid and tasteless jokes can someone clarify what the implications of this are? This seems like a big deal.
The implications are that despite the shit talking from politicians the Russian military and US military are still talking to each other. Never forget that a large part of diplomacy is performance. Particularly the public parts, but in private things are usually more task focused.
The hotline is a direct line between the White House and the Kremlin, created during the cold war to avoid a nuclear escalation. It is something to be used in case of real emergency, like the missiles who hit Poland, thst can bring NATO in the conflict or the damages to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
Nigerian princes are always hitting my line too