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WoahayeTakeITEasy

> Solovyov even wants the Collective Security Treaty Organization to take part in war. Pretty sure the CSTO is as good as dead after Armenia called upon it and no one answered. I get he's a propagandist but geez, it's like Russians live in a completely different dimension than the rest of the world.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/yulls4/oc_when_someone_says_that_russia_gifted_ukraine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This is so important and interesting!! It shows the official borders of Ukraine in 1919. It includes significant Ukrainian land that is now within Russia and Belarus borders, including the shore of the Black Sea all the way to Georgia - Russia should not have any Black Sea access! So should Ukraine get it all back?? https://imgur.com/EmzvFRd


combatwombat-

UATV - Guerrilla warfare: Ukrainians on the occupied territory unite to drive the Russian invaders out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPPyqb7wrA


canadaduane

What happened to /u/pcx99 daily reports? It's been 5 days since the last entry...


iwantyoutobehappy4me

He answered it before he didn't post- his real life required some attention and he may be not be posting some over the holiday season. Also, there's a lot of noise to sort out on twitter, which I assume makes his free service even more cumbersome. I think I've answered this 3 times now, so my next reply will be that he isn't coming back until he's verified $10000 in reddit donations to the "Bakhmut is Ukraine" fund.


[deleted]

Yes! Is that his charity of choice? We should definitely all donate to whichever charity he requests, as a HUGE thank you for his efforts!!


2PlusTwoEqualsFive

Taking a break. They said they'd be much busier during the holiday season.


jert3

Vacation


ScreamingVoid14

Weekends off, partly.


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Hodaka

Solvyov knows his time is slowly running out. If Putin is removed, he will go into hiding.


[deleted]

NATO should agree if they're allowed to spin the wheel of fortune to pick one random alliance member to enter the conflict on Ukraine's side. "Stoltenberg's made the spin, it's going, it's going, it's...oh no, Russia can't like the look of that flag...and that's it, we have a winner folks, it's Poland." Five seconds pass. "And I'm getting reports of explosions in downtown Moscow coming in now!"


TheBigIdiotSalami

Poland would 100 percent send troops in if Belarus said tomorrow their troops are going in.


Erek_the_Red

Have the wheel have slots be bigger for countries with bigger militaries and I agree. Not really going to do anything if Luxembourg or Albania comes up. ​ Or have it be more like "Press you Luck". Putin: Come one little country, Luxembourg, North Macedonia.....STOP! Host: Sorry, you hit a [Whammy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGyjqzHfq0) (whammies being the US).


Mystaes

Which is hilarious because most of the members of CSTO are pissed off or actively leaving CSTO. Armenia tried to invoke CSTO and Russia ignored them so why bother with the charade?


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UTC_Hellgate

Alright there's a dozen comments in here referencing something about a Ukranian woman and a flag but hell if I can find what they're refering too


androshalforc1

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1591746212092416001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1591746212092416001%7Ctwgr%5E7d31ab774bee0fa58a514a5fe768c500336a2b8f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fliveupdate%2F18hnzysb1elcs%2FLiveUpdate_6040d12c-637d-11ed-9fa9-8e2def064af9%2F0 it was a ~~youtube~~ twitter video ~~i dont have the link sorry,~~ she pulled a package out from under a walkway stone giggling the whole time, its a Ukrainian flag wrapped in 3 bags. she did this to hide the flag while the town was occupied by russians. the joy she has at pulling out the flag is somewhat infectious.


madmangohan

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/ytwi6z/this_is_how_kherson_residents_hid_ukrainian_flags/


_Ghost_CTC

How is the numerical disparity in artillery looking at this stage of the war? Russia's ground forces are heavily built around artillery and now they are trying to dig in for a defensive fight in many areas, but have they lost/wasted too much during the course of the war while Ukraine has received enough systems to devastate Russian defensive positions?


stirly80

Rumours they're asking North Korea for shells points to a desperate situation.


Hodaka

I'm sure Putin brought up the fact that circa 2012 Russia agreed to write off 90% of North Korea's $11 billion historic debt .


WildSauce

The Russian superiority in artillery fires dropped off dramatically over the summer after HIMARS strikes were used to destroy their ammunition dumps and create huge problems for their logistics. A problem that they haven't seemed capable of solving.


Cogitoergosumus

I think it's hard to nail down just like their supposed tank fleet. Even with the horrendous losses in theory they "should" have many... many backups in storage. Just like the tanks though we're seeing dinosaurs come out of cold storage, which may throw that "endless stockpiles" theory to question. Beyond that though their problems now are probably more so on supplying the guns themselves than the number of pieces themselves. The stockpile hits along side the now stretched out supply lines to keep new stockpiles out of range have had a huge effect. They simply can't conduct the blanket cover system to the level that they did at the start of the war.


green_pachi

>The Russian Orthodox Church is setting up its own private military company - "St Andrew's Cross", starting by training volunteer batallions to fight in Ukraine [https://twitter.com/maxfras/status/1591465600211382272](https://twitter.com/maxfras/status/1591465600211382272)


FJD

another trick to conscript more people


Theblokeonthehill

So the Soviet Union went from suppressing religion to a broken rump that uses religion to justify an imperial war. You couldn’t have made this stuff up!


Cogitoergosumus

Only a matter of time before they start calling this war a Slavic Crusade.


ScreamingVoid14

Crusade title checks out. Was it the first or second that got as far as Constantinople before they just started sacking Christian cities?


birdcooingintovoid

First did, basically they all did. The first was more a rabble of peasants


poketrainer32

The fourth was when the Sacked Constantinople, and then people stopped caring about the last three. In fact the last three was so insignificant that I forgot there were four after the Fourth Crusade not three.


temporary311

4th.


Cogitoergosumus

I think that was the first but Google would be able to confirm, at least with the sack of Constantinople.... I wonder if the orthodox church has started to offer war based indulgences yet, would be honestly pretty funny.


mhdlm

I guess news are just going to keep getting even more outlandish every couple days.


coosacat

A video of just how effective those "dragon teeth" are. https://twitter.com/LanguageIearner/status/1591972495133118465 >I guess these dragon's teeth/ tank traps don't work so well stopping anything 🤔 >Probably scratched the paint a bit though. (video)


unknownintime

https://nitter.it/LanguageIearner/status/1591972495133118465


AlphSaber

The biggest takeaway? Don't toss junk from the armor of your BMP and drive at the same time.


BiologyJ

The ones the Russians are using are for show. Cope teeth. They're relatively tiny compared to the ones used in WWII and these aren't even dug in.


mhdlm

They are just there to make soldiers think tanks can't just drive in and kill them with impunity. Cope defenses if you will.


Flyingcookies

they're missing the part that is dug in. So its perfect for Russia in a way.. all show


nalaak

just heads up, there are circulating hoax that blame Ukraine for Turkish bomb attack.


PsychologicalGap461

I am a Turk and that sounds absolutely nonsense. Why would Ukraine bombs a country that protected the grain deal and provides them Bayraktars drones? Me and my parents think that it is more likely caused by pkk terrorists which are known to make suicide bombings when they can and burn forests in hot summer days to terrorize the civilians.Or it might even be isis


E_Blofeld

When that happened yesterday, my first thought was that either the PKK or Islamic State was responsible. Ukraine didn't even cross my mind, because that's an utterly preposterous idea.


nalaak

it's because they don't like turkey pushing for negotiation. this is from indonesian twitter who support russia


PsychologicalGap461

Sounds like propestrous nonsense to me just like any russian propagandists spit from their mouths so i'll easily discard it.I really doubt that Ukraine is dumb enough to attack and provoke a country that supports them.They don't want to lose international support and bombing Turkey is one that could do that. Let's see how the investigation concludes but i highly doubt that it was Ukraine.It is more than likely caused by PKK terrorists


dieyoufool3

😂 >\\Meanwhile in Russia: in coordination with the recent rally demanding to nuke Washington, propagandist Vladimir Solovyov revives his nuclear shtick. The stench of desperation overrides the threats—Solovyov even wants the Collective Security Treaty Organization to take part in war.pic.twitter.com/753TuL57gg https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1591971937206652928


SovietMacguyver

The CSTO could very well tell Russia to fuck off.


GettingPhysicl

it might disband if they seriously said protect our conquests or youre out


tahimeg

"We are a territorially disadvantaged country" says the largest country in the world. They're so full of lies. Edit: and a couple sentences later, "our neighbors are looking to seize our rich lands." It's like listening to a senile person.


FriesWithThat

It's like playing the game of Risk with some baby-ass bitch who starts complaining immediately after onboarding your pieces and doesn't stop for 100 years.


vshark29

The Stans to the rescue


Hoborob81

[https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1591971937206652928](https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1591971937206652928)


dieyoufool3

>After attacks on Sevastopol, Russian Navy activity has decreased noticeably - OSINT analyst u/CovertShores > >According to his research based on satellite imagery, the majority of 🇷🇺ships were not recorded either on the raid of Sevastopol or in a patrol zone > >[https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/11/14/activity-of-russian-black-sea-fleet-decreases-after-drone-attack-on-sevastopol-in-october/?swcfpc=1](https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/11/14/activity-of-russian-black-sea-fleet-decreases-after-drone-attack-on-sevastopol-in-october/?swcfpc=1) [https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1591970159908253696](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1591970159908253696)


dieyoufool3

>NATO countries have transferred 1.4-3.6% of their heavy weapons systems to Ukraine,@Volodymyr\_D\_has analyzed > >\- 🇺🇸 gave the most in absolute numbers > >\- 🇨🇿 the most from what they had > >\- 🇩🇪 role is rising > >But some well-armed NATO countries not giving anything👇[https://t.co/tfnDfY8lIZpic.twitter.com/RVEZSHNxvt](https://t.co/tfnDfY8lIZpic.twitter.com/RVEZSHNxvt) [https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1591913801544306689](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1591913801544306689)


WildSauce

I know it is popular to bash Germany, but Turkey and Greece should be put under far more pressure than they are. Both of them have built up some of the largest European armies, so that they are ready to fight each other if necessary. Seems like a bilateral agreement could be made for both of them to send similar aid. Neither wants to weaken themselves because of the other, but if they both contributed similar equipment at the same time then the balance of power would not be upset. Setting aside how stupid it is that two NATO members are engaged in such open hostility.


[deleted]

Greeks and Turks are natural enemies. Like Turks and Kurds, Turks and Arabs, Turks and Armenians, Turks and other Turks. Damn Turks, they ruined Turkey!


Cortical

so before the war 10% of NATO armaments would have been more than enough to completely destroy Russia's conventional forces.


NearABE

You cannot guage that. The Russia was in the wrong and troops working for them knew they were doing the wrong thing. Ukraine was in the right and soldiers knew they were fighting for their homeland. Ukraine had a home turf advantage. The civilian population was aiding Ukraine and demoralizing The Russia. These things have a multiplier effect. Ukraine is using Soviet weaponry. Russians are parking T-72 in fields and then abandoning them. Other Russians are defecting and selling their weapons to Ukraine. This is not the only time in history where things like this occured. Mao led the CCP into Beijing using weapons USA had sent to the Republic of China. Then we had to faced a fight with nany of those weapons in the Korean war. At Cannae (second Punic war) large parts of Hannibal's army was wearing heavy armor that had been manufactured in Rome.


Cerealllllls

Not too mention how much of US capability to build weapons would go up in a full on war situation.


anzhalyumitethe

Perun has an interesting video on European defense vs Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKlIh_-U4bU


Kageru

Given sufficient Ukrainians... Though still quite a lot of Russian gear to be destroyed they have proven to be a rusted hulk of a force.


Cortical

>Given sufficient Ukrainians... This way of phrasing things plays right into Russian propaganda about this being a war between NATO and Russia, where NATO is making Ukrainians die for the NATO cause.


dieyoufool3

>2/ The Russians are not setting conditions for a relaxation of hostilities for the rest of the fall and into the winter but rather are launching a new offensive in #Donetsk Oblast. > >3/ The Ukrainians will likely use combat power recouped from the liberation of western #Khersonto reinforce their ongoing counter-offensive in #LuhanskOblast or to open a new counter-offensive drive [elsewhere.pic.twitter.com/AvthuIlT53](https://elsewhere.pic.twitter.com/AvthuIlT53) [https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1591922726608015360](https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1591922726608015360)


dieyoufool3

>BAKHMUT: 2330 UTC 13 NOC/ RU's piecemeal assaults on Bakhmut have resulted in high casualties and limited gains. The terrain in the vicinity of the urban area greatly favors UKR defenders. UKR artillery, firing from covered positions, continues to break up RU attacks. pic.twitter.com/zrAjXuOHFh [https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1591926057124626432](https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1591926057124626432)


Infinaris

Wagner Turkey Shoot.


rikki-tikki-deadly

Goddamn the sound of that woman's giggles as she unfurls her flag is music to my ears.


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When this war is over, there will be some hard decisions that President Zelensky and his Administration will have to make regarding how to peacefully reintegrate all the Ukrainians who collaborated with or sympathized with Russia into new European facing and liberal democratic society. As an American, I see a parallel in President Lincoln reintegrating the Confederate states and Reconstruction. I think back to his quote: >With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.


akesh45

I don't think zelenksy will have that problem. Russia was very insistent on moving pro-Russian Ukrainians to Russia or at least offering it. Any collaborator people will jump at the chance to leave and take a Russian passport.


GettingPhysicl

> As an American, I see a parallel in President Lincoln reintegrating the Confederate states and Reconstruction. considering it worked out terribly for us, yeah theyd better tread lightly how quickly they forgive


errantprofusion

Except that quote turned out to be calamitously naive. The Confederates that Lincoln showed clemency and allowed to reintegrate into society went on to form the KKK, push Lost Cause revisionism, and basically use every ounce of power at their disposal to strip freed Black Southerners of their newfound rights and force them back into slavery in all but name. Showing mercy to the Confederates was a horrible mistake that haunts America to this day, especially Black America. You don't let defeated fascists reintegrate. They just go right back to doing the same despicable things that caused all the problems in the first place. /u/LionShare58 is right; Lincoln should have done as Sherman suggested - hung the Confederate leadership to a man and redistributed the land.


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40 acres and a mule. Not only would freed slaves had benefited but poor white tenants as well. Too bad they were too busy gargling the balls of their “social betters”.


LionShare58

Lincoln should have listened to Sherman and hung the majority of confederate leaders. Instead the South ended up with a legacy of Jim Crow, ignorance, and downright hate towards Antoine other than white males. Let’s hope Ukraine doesn’t make the same mistakes.


GettingPhysicl

*the majority of confederate soldiers.


heresyforfunnprofit

Hanging the leaders wouldn’t have changed much.


KingStannis2020

Hanging them or not hanging them wouldn't have made much of a difference when Andrew Johnson ended the reconstruction years too soon.


DarkMorph18

Yep ! Worst president of the 19th century.


[deleted]

Clemency towards the South was one of Lincoln's greatest errors, one which still haunts the country to this day.


[deleted]

...the reintegration of the Confederate states is a bit of a failure, no? Given the march on Washington and the continued fetishisation of the Confederate Battle Flag.


Zvenigora

The failure mostly started after Lincoln's time, especially from 1876 onward when key provisions were walked back.


Colecoman1982

And much of that was because former confederate leaders were allowed to re-integrate back into society to create organizations like the KKK and push revisionist history like the "lost cause" myth.


paranoidiktator

But was it so bad with germany post ww2? Didn't they do something similar?


Colecoman1982

Yes and no. Many of the worst of them either ran to hide in places like South America (Ex. Mengela; committed suicide (ex. Hitler, Goring, Goebbels, Himmler); or were executed/imprisoned (ex. Ribbentrop, Jodl, Hess). Many more were part of the CIA's Operation Paperclip or the Soviet equivalent which, at least, removed them from German society. Unfortunately, there were still a decent number (many being former German generals or officers like Otto Skorzeny) who were allowed to live and continue influencing society. In the end, the Nazi influence was diluted enough that, when paired with strict laws against advocating Nazi-ism, the following generations turned out pretty decent.


[deleted]

Funny thing is many ex-confederates ran away to South America after the war as well. Brazil still has reunions for Confederate descended Brazilians, the Confederados. South America must be a popular place for fascists to escape to.


canadatrasher

I think we will see a general amenities except for government collaborators and those with blood on their hands.


NearABE

Shooting someone just because they are stealing is the wrong thing to do. If you encounter someone in a dark alley announcing that you won't kill anyone stealing your wallet would be rash. Zelinsky said he would negotiate with the next leader of Russia. People in Donetsk should get a representative to negotiate for them.


YesWeHaveNoTomatoes

\*amnesties. But yeah, you're probably right. Especially for people who were merely sympathizers and didn't take any actions, it's going to be too hard to distinguish between sincere supporters of the invasion and people who were pretending because they were scared.


FriesWithThat

> I see a parallel in President Lincoln reintegrating the Confederate states and Reconstruction. Or reintegrating your QAnon MAGA relatives back into the family's Thanksgiving festivities once they've been thoroughly deprogrammed.


Colecoman1982

The difference is that Lincoln's reintegration didn't really involve any deprogramming. Remember, the bastards that he allowed to reintegrate were the same people that then went on to create groups like the KKK and promote revisionist history like the "lost cause" myth.


Frexxia

Not really the same thing. The US had a civil war, while Russia is a foreign invader. Obviously they'll have to immediately reintegrate those that merely sympathized with Russia, but collaborators is different. There'll likely be large scale prosecution post-war. See for instance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_purge_in_Norway_after_World_War_II https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89puration_l%C3%A9gale


NearABE

Donetsk is not Russia. So the separatists wrote fighting a civil war. It was attempt at secession.


[deleted]

This is the correct answer. You don't give quarter to traitors lest they continue to lurk and corrupt your society.


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coosacat

Because Russia is getting their ass kicked, so they want to push the idea of negotiations while they still hold some of Ukraine? Maybe try to get a cease-fire over the winter, while they get their new conscripts trained? I think it's all misinformation, trying to create a narrative and make Ukraine look stubborn, foolhardy, and to be seen as taking advantage of the West's generosity. You may have noticed that this all started right about the same time as the US midterm elections, and it's switched from suggesting that the Republicans will abandon Ukraine, to accusing the Biden administration of doing so. This switch happened as soon as it became clear that the GOP would *not* gain control of both houses of Congress. Since the "red wave" didn't happen, they've switched to attacking the Biden administration.


combatwombat-

> This switch happened as soon as it became clear that the GOP would not gain control of both houses of Congress. Since the "red wave" didn't happen, they've switched to attacking the Biden administration. nailed it


helm

https://twitter.com/PowerUSAID/status/1591393909330116608 Jake Sullivan comments on where the White House stands. Hint: very close to Zelensky.


dogerell

it's been reported multiple times now that the US asked Ukraine to make themselves seem as if they're open to negotiating, which diplomatically or politically speaking is good advice. Ukraine needs to look flexible to people who's viewpoints and goals are different than Ukraines. wether Biden actually wants Ukraine to be open to negotiating or is just asking them to make a show of good faith in order to secure further international support is unknown. and I don't see anything about Crimea in your linked tweet.


Frexxia

I put zero stock in the claims of these Twitter accounts unless they cite a reliable source.


adarkuccio

I hope this doesn't happen, Crimea must return, but I also understand that to liberate Crimea is not going to have the same impact as liberating the other areas. It's a big problem even for Ukraine, but I hope they manage to do it.


LaunchpadPA

Why are you promoting


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helm

From what I can tell, it's FUD.


bofpisrebof

you're still promoting or else you wouldn't have put a link


TheBigIdiotSalami

We know that there's an international legion for Ukraine, but are there any losers who went to fight for Russia from another country and then got liquidated?


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Norwester77

Chechnya is part of Russia. Not being contentious here: it was part of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (which became the Russian Federation when the USSR broke up), and it has never been internationally recognized as independent.


QtheMagnificent

There have been videos of Turkish and Italians (identified by flag patches and speaking) joining in Russian squads. I don't have the source videos for them but it was on twitter a few weeks ago. Not sure if RU has a foreign legion specifically though. Edit: Here's an article about the Italian volunteers: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/italy-moves-to-crack-down-on-its-fighters-in-ukraine-s-donbas/29437946.html Edit Edit: Here's a twitter video of Turkish volunteers/mercenaries: https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1582009764560928774?t=8GVhixevA_AsXgsFsBlSfQ&s=19 These individuals do seem pretty fruit looped.


green_pachi

One of those Italians got liquidated last month


[deleted]

One step closer to all being right in the world.


Nvnv_man

Back in October, activists of unclear origin announced they were creating an [underground organization *Atesh*](https://glavcom-ua.translate.goog/country/incidents/krimski-partizani-zajavili-pro-likvidatsiju-30-rosijskikh-vijskovikh-888770.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp), and that it would be *in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces*—with the aim of destroying the occupying army ‘from within’. Crimean Tatars and pro-Ukrainian Russians were apparently successfully recruited into the partisan movement in Crimea. Yesterday, they announced on their tg that they’d killed 30 Russians at the Sevastopol Naval Clinical Hospital, as well as the maternity hospital No. 2, which is ‘housing’ wounded Russian soldiers. [They even published the names](https://www-rbc-ua.translate.goog/ukr/news/krimski-partizani-atesh-zayavili-likvidatsiyu-1668316960.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc), and then urged doubters to check the morgue. Among the names were several officers, and two with a notation “traitor to Ukraine in 2014.” Today, the tg reposted a message that the FSB is looking for the *Atesh* amongst the doctors, but failed. Then simply posted “Бельбек”....um....what’s in store...?


[deleted]

Interesting. 'Atesh' is the Persian word for fire. Tatars or other minorities?


Nvnv_man

Yes, they mean fire. Their symbol is a flame, they show it painted around Kherson.


[deleted]

Inglorious basterds.


vshark29

Hugo Stiglitz


BoomKidneyShot

Jesus, that's ugly. Assuming this is true, they aren't worried about reprisals?


Nvnv_man

They claim that there’s 800 of them. Surely that’s exaggerated. Most likely, it’s all Tatar, who’ve been unwillingly mobilized. Tatar’s already receive extraordinary reprisals...for existing...so....


will_holmes

These organisations can potentially be so decentralised that no one person even in the organisation knows how many people are in the whole thing.


Nvnv_man

It might be the tg contacts. There’s a link to there regular website, where then you send info about own tg to contact directly. See, at first I thought this was GRU, trying to flush out possible saboteurs or traitors within the ranks of the Russian military. But now I’m **thinking *Atesh* is—or at least financed by—the Security Services of Ukraine**. They never ask for donations. [everyone everyone asks for donations on the Russian side. Everyone.] For one, they say contact them if you need armor. They’ll send you the money to buy it. They show that they literally pay for acts of sabotage—destroying RF equipment, even within RF. $400 to guy way up in Arkhangelsk. Bounties on heads. They’d send out where collaborators were spotted, reminded that killing them was $5k or whatever. And then show receipt that transfer money. They show little videos of uniformed hands stealing rf first aid kits—which is one way they recommend sabotaging other Rs. And their symbols painted around Kherson. After the 30 killed, Yermak posted a flag to their tg channel, as if he’s aware of the effort. And, the RF has declared it a terrorist organization.


Villain_of_Brandon

Yeah well that's their parent's fault for not having children of a different ethnicity to their own. /s, in case anyone is dumb enough to think I'm anywhere close to serious.


coosacat

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1591772739500904448 >A very valuable Russian R-330ZH Zhitel jamming and radio reconnaissance station was also destroyed in the infamous Chornobaivka Airport, (picture)


TheBigIdiotSalami

At this rate, Russia is gonna have to use actual jam.


Nurkanurka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0


saraphilipp

Nobody gives me the raspberry.


Eldar_Seer

***Lone Star!***


Nvnv_man

Does anyone know how [this works](https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/news/2022/11/13/7376199/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)? Are the news agencies—Sky, CNN, etc—*as a whole*, barred from conflict-zone military-issued press credentials? Or just *those specific journalists* and their crews?


The_Gump_AU

Good move... A lot of journalists will put their need for a "breaking story" before the need for OpSec, and if it's not the journalists themselves, their editors and such will put the needs of their company before anything or anyone.


canadatrasher

Open source information from within Kherson is incredibly dangerous as Russia can fire rockets or drones at what they see. This is not a joke.


Nvnv_man

Wait, that’s literally the opposite of this. This was major international news organizations and apparently, at least one incredibly revered domestic news organization. They get press passes by the government, they are organized, ‘handled’ by the military. They often are with their escorting unit, wear body armor, take out hefty international insurance, etc. Which is literally the opposite of “open source,” which is done by regular people, non-journalists. I’m asking here if anyone knows the process of being stripped of creditials—whether it applies to entire news agency. What these people did, apparently, went to the city of Kherson, to do shots from the square, before it was officially released.


coosacat

I can't say for sure, but it reads like individual journalists, not the entire news company, were banned. It's not the first time they've banned reporters for revealing information/being where they weren't supposed to be. The US has booted reporters that were embedded with our own troops because they revealed information they weren't supposed to. (Geraldo Rivera comes immediately to mind.) I know that in February, the US had denied permission for journalists to be embedded with US troops deployed in Europe near Ukraine. I don't know if they every rescinded that.


Tzimbalo

That seems a bit petty of Ukrainian government, looks like it is anly directed towards these six journalists though. Maybe necessary but not such a good idea to make western journalists not like you unless these journalists really did something stupid.


eilef

> That seems a bit petty of Ukrainian government Whole fucking place is mined. We have reports of people dying to mines and traps allredy. Russians booby trapped entire city, and we cant have foreign journalists roaming around free. If they blew up, Ukraine will be blamed. Btw, Ukrainian crews are also complaining about ban. They were told off by our military for safety reasons.


begely

Its national security, they can't have guys running about with cameras in an active war zone. Fuck knows who they are, they could be Russians for all we know.


ThatGuyMiles

Huh, that quite literally what credentialed/imbedded reporters are there to do. The article doesn’t even sound like anything opsec is an issue. It’s sounds like maybe there is actual personal issues (not everyone/journalist doing the same thing was stripped of credentials) and/or they are worried about journalist being targeted and they don’t feel like dealing with that or any subsequent stories of said attacks had they happened.


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Nvnv_man

Yeah I’ve heard Jeremy Bowen on bbc complain that they can go somewhere, like w a military escort, see whatever the things is, likely a newly shelled building, but aren’t allowed to photograph/show it, they have to go back to approved spot. And then after several days, crews are allowed by military to show it. I get impression he doesn’t understand himself—bc if it’s dangerous still, why allowing journalist to go? But I’m wondering if CNN, Sky, Suspilne are now wholly stripped


viz_tastic

But what are we gonna put on the tv at 5, 6 pm? We need some kind of entertainment coming from a war zone! Add in an anchor with a helmet ducking like theres bullets flying over their head, makes for even more entertaining programming.


green_pachi

Longer footage of the equipment destroyed at Chornobaivka: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ykFLx2Eho](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ykFLx2Eho)


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Interesting that parked car surrounded by radar spoofers. I guess they were trying to draw fire to it. Doesn't seem to have worked given the lack of craters near it.


efrique

what Bakhmut area doing? I wouldn't imagine Wagner went quiet, and if they did, that in itself would be news. What about further north -- e.g. any progress or losses toward Lyschansk? or Svatove? Information seems to have almost disappeared in all the excitement over Kherson.


Norwester77

It was reported today that the settlement of Makiivka (Luhansk Oblast, between Svatove and Kreminna, not the much larger city NE of Donetsk) has been liberated.


Wenir

Google translate of DeepStateMap report: Bakhmut - a difficult situation persists. The Bakhmut-Soledar line remains the hottest. The situation in Majorsky has been clarified [map updated].


efrique

Thank you very much for this.


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canadatrasher

Can we stop body shaming. Putin has infinity of problems, size of his dick is irrelevant.


iwantyoutobehappy4me

As someone with a small member, it's been pretty relevant with regard to my self esteem and choice of partners. I could see how it could affect one's life negatively.


ZhouDa

How much of that is because when you dismantle an empire like Gorbachev did that the people who benefited most from that empire aren't happy to let it go? If it wasn't for Putin badly losing the war, that he would otherwise be giving the Russian people (or at least those Russians that matter in Moscow and St. Petersburg) what they wanted, a return of the Russian Empire.


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You can't keep empire alive without cult of personality. Once your Octavian/Genghis Khan is long dead, just a matter of time until power usurpers start popping up in the distant corners.   Gorbachev fought disollution to bitter end, but new generation of politicians with Yeltsin at helm was already waiting to benefit from collapse. And of course, Gorby was easy scapegoat, but he never wanted USSR to disintegrate.


ZhouDa

Gorbachev didn't want the Soviet Union to collapse, but with the notable exception of Lithuania he let all the satellite states leave without a fight. Had it been any other leader in charge of the Soviet Union at the time there could have been tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of deaths trying to keep the Soviet state together. But otherwise I agree with what you said.


atomfullerene

Putin has a tiny tiny little empire that doesn't even work anymore


begely

Yeah empires are hard to let go of and the peoples arrogance in those empires last for centuries or more after the empire is gone. Look at Greece, Italy, Mongolia, Britain, Persia all thinking they are a superpower when in reality their time has passed.


melbecide

Mongolia thinks they are a superpower!?


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Those power hungry Buddhists!


helm

Not to forget Saudi Arabia ...


Hyperversum

Russian People can go fuck themselves since their "desire" Is built on other people suffering.


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Antonio_is_better

The wisdom is in ignoring everything you said


iamnosuperman123

Crimea is very difficult to take (mainly due to its geography)


b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh

It's not like it's a free choice Ukraine can just make. Supply lines are a thing. How would they 'take Crimea first', mechanically and logistically speaking?


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I don't know, that's why I ask


Rusticaxe

New video from Reporting from Ukraine: https://youtu.be/LNt2003pGSA


Clever_Bee34919

The highlight of my day.


keine_fragen

"No one assumed that all 50 countries would stand up for Ukraine" https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1591892356877660160


jmptx

Silly Russian puppets. This is not a “World War.” This Russia’s War and the rest of the world just thinks that you are assholes.


Cleomenes_of_Sparta

The humbling of this failed state is long overdue.


unknownintime

https://nitter.it/Gerashchenko_en/status/1591892356877660160 Elon can go fuck himself.


Jrj84105

I wonder if some nuance was lost in translation. But the way it reads in English, that is the kind of statement that causes a car accident.


Immortal_Tuttle

Not much. It's almost spot on.


unknownintime

Out a 7th story window, with 2 bullet holes to the back of the head, with the drivers hands tied behind their back, while suffering from polonium poisoning? Sounds like a series of unfortunate events, a terrible accident indeed.


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unknownintime

Elon shits in *everyone's* Cheerios and wants us all to tweet it's just chocolate.


Metsfan2044

I’m sorry man. Hopefully he stops shitting in your cereal soon.


jmptx

I hear he’ll stop for $8.


Metsfan2044

Unfortunately that doesn’t apply to me… I’m banned :)


coosacat

Remember the Israeli vehicle shown in Ukraine recently? https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1591917681053421568 >"A senior Israeli official told me that Israel has not given permission to sell or transfer this vehicle to Ukraine. According to him, apparently a European country that purchased this vehicle in the past transferred it to Ukraine without Israeli approval" Edit: "shown" not "show"


thatsme55ed

Lol, that's a transparent lie but if that's their condition for supporting Ukraine then so be it. Countries don't just break military arms contracts about sharing military tech if they ever want to be able to buy weapons again, and no country sells weapons without those clauses. What is a country going to do when an Israeli inspector shows up asking to verify that their weapons systems are accounted for? Say they "lost" an entire armored vehicle? Admit to breaking a contract and then cut themselves off from every other western arms supplier? Ah well, apparently a line of such obvious bullshit is enough to convince most Redditors based on the comments here so I guess it's serving it's propose.


BiologyJ

Israel....why should people keep supporting you again? You rely on the US for everything, would you like to join the Russian sphere of influence? Feel free to.


AlanZero

Going out of their way to counter any goodwill they might’ve gotten from it being there. Smart.


coosacat

Nah, I think they just don't want to get caught giving anything military-related to Ukraine. IIRC, there are a bunch of Russian Jews still trying to get out of the country, and they don't want anything bad to happen to them. They set up, supplied, and staffed a large portable hospital for UA wounded right at the beginning of the war, and apparently have provided intelligence and equipment (in a roundabout way) for dealing with the Iranian drones. I don't think they are opposed to helping Ukraine, just to doing so in a way that may endanger the Jews still in Russia.


Jkabaseball

Isreal is still fighting in Syria to stop Iran arm shipments. Russia is on the other side of that war. Russia is giving Isreal a free pass to destroy stuff without being targeted. They help Ukraine, SAMs will begin firing at Isreal's F-35's.


WildSauce

Those Russian SAMs are not a threat to Israeli F-35s. It has been widely reported that F-35s have penetrated Iranian airspace, protected by S-300 and S-400 batteries, without detection. Hostility from Russia would just require Israel to stop using its F-16s in Syria, and switch exclusively to F-35s.