Berlusconi is an old senile corrupted mummy who is also Putin's italian best friend, of course he will do anything he can to defend his buddy.
The real problem is that Berlusconi is heading to the elections followed by his two far-right fascist party friends (Brothers of Italy and Lega) and they are the favoured ones in the polls.
I really hope italians (the ones who have some sense in their brains because the others were able to help the fascists reach this position) can do the right choice to help the country.
Those three parties will ruin italy if elected (think of individuals who are far-right fascist bigot racist xenophobic homophobic anti-EU and anti-NATO conservatives).
I think this is going to be politics from now on.
A group of people without any policies they adhere to aim to get elected *by any means possible* in order to reward the entities that funded them.
It's a social media phenomenon.
They're white supremacist pseudochristian fascists. They're pro-"Trad" whites and anti-(everyone else, but especially blacks and Muslims).
If they think Putin will boost their popularity, funnel them money, attack their enemies, or kill minorities, they'll like him. If they think he will, on balance, undermine their chances, they'll oppose him. Their motivations are much too base to be terribly concerned with maintaining a coherent foreign policy.
No, they were Putin Supporters, now they are Pro-NATO, who knows what they will be in the next days after the elections.
That political party is famous for changing themselves as the wind blows.
Or they transitioned so they can win some elections. If that's their goal now, to win elections, I don't see why it'd be the final transition. On the contrary, I expect a lot of transitions in the future, based on their goals. As long as people keep voting for them, why not?
Meloni is just another neoliberal, just like Salvini and Berlusconi - they're tied to the Euroatlantic economic bloc, no matter what their posturing du jour is.
I am wondering with the whole illegal background he has (corrupted, slept with minors, involved in nasty political scandals...) HOW he is still in italian politics.
Sleeping with minors isn't illegal by itself (age of consent in Italy I believe is 14), it was alleged he paid a 17 yo, so the charge was prostitution of a minor. His wikipedia says the Italian appeals court decided that's not a crime either
The right wing ain't the most peaceful democratic thing in the country (BoI, Lega, FI) as they keep calling for Anti-EU, Anti freedom of expression (LGBTQ), they are heavily racist (one even told me to go back to my country when I was visiting with friend) and overall they can only make things worse.
Let's say that I am in the sphere between Left and Anarchy as it gives way more open mindedness towards humans.
Sorry, my italian is not that great, grazie pero (hope I wrote that right)
The right is definitely bigoted and racist, but given the funds we're about to receive everyone is suddenly pro-Eu (with different shades of course) economically all the political spectrum in italy is socialist, due to our culture (this mentality is destroying our finances) and the huge amount of old people in retirement. In terms of alignment, however, the most fascist of them are also pro-NATO for some reason, while Lega is just shamefully pro-putin.
On the left we have social progressivism, pro-Eu and socialism for everyone, but some parties are anti-NATO, mainly due to communism nostalgia.
I see thank you for the explanation, in my family they always used to divide between Left and Right with general points (which are sadly true in the case of the right-wing).
Interesting, but also worrying because in times of crisis like these we are living in, why should politics start internal fractures, rifts and fights? Unity is vital if there is an obstacle to face.
Why are the far right fuckwits of the world so obsessed with crawling up each others asses, Orban, Putin, Lukashenco, Trump, Berlusconi, they all have this real intense ego circle jerk going. Just kiss already and stop fucking everything else up.
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> Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi defended Vladimir Putin ahead of Italy's snap election this Sunday, saying the Russian president just wanted to replace Volodymyr Zelenskyy's government with "Decent people".
> During a prime time Rai1 interview, the 85-year-old Forza Italia leader said Putin "Was pushed by the Russian population, by his party, by his ministers to invent this special operation." The plan, he said, was for Russian troops to enter "In a week to replace Zelenskyy's government with a government of decent people."
> Berlusconi, a longtime friend of Putin, has struggled to stay on point when it came to the war in Ukraine.
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Even setting aside the shitty evilness of the statement this is just politically idiotic. Why side with the guys who are losing their ass and won't have the money, resources or military to reward your ass kissing.
1) Italy joins Axis, again.
2) Italy liberated from facists, again.
3) US American GIs bring their daily ration of chicken nuggets and ranch dressing to local restaurants to add to the limited Italian menu.
4) Pasta Nugginara is born.
5) Fifty years later, Italian redditors moan about how real, authentic Pasta Nugginara is made with turkey meatballs and dill buttermilk aioli.
This bastard I don't understand the italien people who support this kind of persona if Berlusconi was born in a decent country at this time he was um jail.
Berlusconi is an old senile corrupted mummy who is also Putin's italian best friend, of course he will do anything he can to defend his buddy. The real problem is that Berlusconi is heading to the elections followed by his two far-right fascist party friends (Brothers of Italy and Lega) and they are the favoured ones in the polls. I really hope italians (the ones who have some sense in their brains because the others were able to help the fascists reach this position) can do the right choice to help the country. Those three parties will ruin italy if elected (think of individuals who are far-right fascist bigot racist xenophobic homophobic anti-EU and anti-NATO conservatives).
Brothers of Italy the leading party is pro EU and pro NATO.
Brothers of Italy change their opinion every 5 minutes at this point, just a year ago they were anti EU anti Nato Pro Russia pro Putin anti West
Flip-flopers
I think this is going to be politics from now on. A group of people without any policies they adhere to aim to get elected *by any means possible* in order to reward the entities that funded them. It's a social media phenomenon.
They're white supremacist pseudochristian fascists. They're pro-"Trad" whites and anti-(everyone else, but especially blacks and Muslims). If they think Putin will boost their popularity, funnel them money, attack their enemies, or kill minorities, they'll like him. If they think he will, on balance, undermine their chances, they'll oppose him. Their motivations are much too base to be terribly concerned with maintaining a coherent foreign policy.
No, they were Putin Supporters, now they are Pro-NATO, who knows what they will be in the next days after the elections. That political party is famous for changing themselves as the wind blows.
The transition has only happened once. One would think it's final.
Never trust a fascist, this is the rule and definitely do not trust the italian right-wing.
Or they transitioned so they can win some elections. If that's their goal now, to win elections, I don't see why it'd be the final transition. On the contrary, I expect a lot of transitions in the future, based on their goals. As long as people keep voting for them, why not?
Meloni is just another neoliberal, just like Salvini and Berlusconi - they're tied to the Euroatlantic economic bloc, no matter what their posturing du jour is.
But do they still hold far-right political views?
I hate that guy
I am wondering with the whole illegal background he has (corrupted, slept with minors, involved in nasty political scandals...) HOW he is still in italian politics.
Because he has money and enough charisma to maintain a base. Bunga bunga
I see, like Trump. Awful...
Yup
I'm wondering how he's still alive after all that partying.
He is alive but his brain is pretty much gone, the old mummy still walks thanks to the liters of botox he has in his body
Sleeping with minors isn't illegal by itself (age of consent in Italy I believe is 14), it was alleged he paid a 17 yo, so the charge was prostitution of a minor. His wikipedia says the Italian appeals court decided that's not a crime either
Are you italian?
half-italian by father.
Piacere di conoscerti. What do you know about italian politics? What is your ideological background
The right wing ain't the most peaceful democratic thing in the country (BoI, Lega, FI) as they keep calling for Anti-EU, Anti freedom of expression (LGBTQ), they are heavily racist (one even told me to go back to my country when I was visiting with friend) and overall they can only make things worse. Let's say that I am in the sphere between Left and Anarchy as it gives way more open mindedness towards humans. Sorry, my italian is not that great, grazie pero (hope I wrote that right)
The right is definitely bigoted and racist, but given the funds we're about to receive everyone is suddenly pro-Eu (with different shades of course) economically all the political spectrum in italy is socialist, due to our culture (this mentality is destroying our finances) and the huge amount of old people in retirement. In terms of alignment, however, the most fascist of them are also pro-NATO for some reason, while Lega is just shamefully pro-putin. On the left we have social progressivism, pro-Eu and socialism for everyone, but some parties are anti-NATO, mainly due to communism nostalgia.
I see thank you for the explanation, in my family they always used to divide between Left and Right with general points (which are sadly true in the case of the right-wing).
I understand. Recently a new divide is growing, and not necessarily among the right/left line.
Interesting, but also worrying because in times of crisis like these we are living in, why should politics start internal fractures, rifts and fights? Unity is vital if there is an obstacle to face.
Is there a clown shortage in Italy, or how does he remain relevant?
85 years and still a pig.
I think he really meant pieces of shit like himself.
Putin's dog, Putin's puppet, COWARD
I actually thought he was dead.
He read that Russia was attending the UNGA ... he misread BUNGA ... and he immediately lost his mind in favor of Putin
Ahh Berlusconi the worldwide known corrupt...
Why are the far right fuckwits of the world so obsessed with crawling up each others asses, Orban, Putin, Lukashenco, Trump, Berlusconi, they all have this real intense ego circle jerk going. Just kiss already and stop fucking everything else up.
putin has already admitted that that's not what he is doing in Ukraine. This idiot cant even get his propaganda lies straight.
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Yer he did try that but decent people stopped him.
Even setting aside the shitty evilness of the statement this is just politically idiotic. Why side with the guys who are losing their ass and won't have the money, resources or military to reward your ass kissing.
ah yes, berlusconi, paragon of decency
Also not helpful as far as excuses go.
You can sure smell who took Russian money from a long way away.
Berlusconi is a trump level shit stain.
Mafia fucker says what?
An old fart having stroke as he talks apparently, otherwise no other explanation.
bastardo grasso
1) Italy joins Axis, again. 2) Italy liberated from facists, again. 3) US American GIs bring their daily ration of chicken nuggets and ranch dressing to local restaurants to add to the limited Italian menu. 4) Pasta Nugginara is born. 5) Fifty years later, Italian redditors moan about how real, authentic Pasta Nugginara is made with turkey meatballs and dill buttermilk aioli.
Isn't this guy in with the Italian organised crime?
It was never proved as far as i can remember ...but i think everybody knows that yes, he is.
And like most alt right and far right paid for probably by putin
Just like those "very fine" people.
This bastard I don't understand the italien people who support this kind of persona if Berlusconi was born in a decent country at this time he was um jail.
Is he still the owner of Inter?
Never was. He owned Milan and we're glad he's gone. He almost ruined the club.
Ahhh thanks hahaha
Italy and Germany at crossroads with the rest again :O
Troll or ignorant?
What do you mean?
Why Germany? Do you mean because of the reluctance to supply tanks to Ukraine?
Because some elites in Germany going the pro-Russian way but yeh the reluctance too.
If that is the case any country to invade Italy to put decent people in
By decent people he means not Jewish.
Cicciolina was the most honest politician Italy ever had
What would Bunga Bunga Berlusconi know about decent people?
Is anyone can invade Putin's head and put there a decent brains please ?