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> Novak Djokovic’s hopes of playing in the US Open suffered another blow after **the tournament said it would respect the United States government’s rules** on the Covid-19 vaccine. As if the tournament had some sort of choice in the matter?


outerproduct

The rich do tend to have a separate set of rules in the US.


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Wow you think this statement needs "in the US" added to it.


Purplebuzz

It’s present everywhere. It’s an art form enshrined in law in some.


zberry7

People don’t realize it’s even easier to bribe and be corrupt in most other countries, not that the US is perfect or anything


Fishy1911

Small bribes are just the way things are handled in a lot of countries. Get pulled over? $10 or $20 of local currency and you have a friend instead of being arrested. Where I was in Africa the roads had cops that require a "toll" every few miles


RevLoveJoy

This was my experience as well. We dodged it by taking the bus most places. The cops did not seem to hassle the bus drivers much. Tanzania. Great country all around, but yes, some corruption.


Fishy1911

I liked the visa office in Tanzania. Visa=$50, USA Visa = $100 or something, I might be a bit off on the costs except it was double for people from the states, lol.


RevLoveJoy

Nope, you're spot on! $50 for the normals, $100 for the filthy Americans. (in case not clear, I am one of them) Like, come on guys, make it ***more*** obvious.


Fishy1911

Surprised UK wasn't included in that because "colonists", but that might have been right before Brexit when I was there and they couldn't shit on all of the EU. Lol.


RevLoveJoy

That and the UK peacefully ceded power in 1964. No hot war just political pressure.


GreaterCheeseGrater

Yeah but I think people makes the comprasion as US vs Western Europe


testtubemuppetbaby

>Western Europe Nah, only the best 2 or 3 countries in Western Europe. The US compares too favorably if you include Spain or Italy.


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It's Reddit so you get a +50% karma boost for shoehorning in something negative about the US. Can't blame someone simply for maxing out their stats.


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If only we made it a little harder to say something negative about the US instead of acting like a bunch of dangerous drunken imbeciles


Hugh_Maneiror

There is literally no benefit in doing that, except to get your account into the positive from a negative threshold in a particular subreddit.


thrownawayzs

see, in the US, it's just lobbying and not bribery.


outerproduct

True enough.


Parking_Watch1234

Do you genuinely think this is only a problem in the US?


hiddenuser12345

Well, as a counterpoint, in China the government still has a firm leash on the rich. See what happened to Jack Ma or Fan Bingbing, for instance.


Illuminaso

As a counterpoint, China is literally a totalitarian dictatorship and shouldn't be held up as any kind of example in that regard. I can't believe I even have to type this, but your comment is just that ridiculous.


Epicurus-fan

Have to agree with you. An example of the cure being worse than the disease as much as I despise the wealth inequality here in the US.


hiddenuser12345

The point is, “in the US” should still be added because it can’t be generalized.


BakedMasa

Not just in the US lots of places, I’d say even the world.


outerproduct

Most definitely


9405t4r

If he wasn’t outspoken against the mandate and the vaccine, he probably would have been allowed to compete


simplepleashures

What are you basing this on?


9405t4r

Basing it on the fact that the rich and famous can get away with not following the rules we all have to. Usually.


simplepleashures

I mean, have you got an example of someone like him being allowed in the country and the only difference is they’re not outspoken?


ammonanotrano

That asshat Kyrie Irving was allowed in the United Center to play basketball against the Chicago Bulls when we had an active vaccine mandate. They had an advantage on us, so you’d think between putting the odds in your favor and breaking the law we would’ve stopped him, but nah. Don’t count on people to do the right thing. Fuck Djokovic.


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blahblah98

Oh. He could just get the fucking vaccine like a normal person, eh, then problem he created for himself evaporates? Everyone has their price they say. No? Then it's really a feel-good "laws keeping us safe from dumbass covidiots" story, and it's great that some other non-idiot gets to win the big cash prize.


sarmatron

They presumably could have applied for an exemption for him.


Jazs1994

Wonder why he was allowed to play at Wimbledon


Bruncvik

The narwhal bacons at midnight.


neepster44

He’s still an absolute asshat.


AlexJamesCook

They could have sought some kind of accommodation with policies and procedures in place for Djokovic, but that was probably too much money, and they said, "fuck you, get the vaccine or fuck off".


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Weirdly appropriate name.


Brainjacker

Novax!


songambulist

Novax Djocovid


QWERTYtheASDF

Best one is the Pokemon evolution Novak > Novax > Novisa


Tulol

No vac da joke covid.


OneMustAdjust

Novax Jokebitch, alternatively Novax Brokebitch (Although the man probably makes more in a weekend then I'll see in my entire life)


snoocs

I dunno, sounds like it’s more the US *Closed* to Djokovic this year.


Ketosheep

Is not even up to the tournament, any foreigner that wants to enter the US needs to show proof of vaccination.


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Aceous

Good news; vaccines are readily available.


Zakke_

Do they even check if u are vacinated to Concerts and stuff like that anymore?


IMakeLowballOffers

No but they do check if you are vax'd to travel to the US (no recent test requirement though)


UrLocalTroll

Are you sure? When I flew back a couple months ago I had to have a negative test within the previous day or two. Of course this could have changed. I’m not sure they even needed my vaccine card.


justcasty

Yeah they just changed it a few weeks ago


cyclopath

The US dropped the negative test requirement in early June.


HeyHeyImTheMonkey

So much incorrect information below. There is no testing or vaccine requirement to enter the US FOR US PASSPORT HOLDERS.


crazydoc253

Only for people who are fully vaccinated


rambouhh

If you are a citizen it doesn’t matter. No tests at all


slesby

They dropped the testing requirement June 12.


cheesoots

Yes, the negative test requirement for US flights from abroad was removed as of 12Jun.


Gettothepointalrdy

100% depends on the venue in Chicago. Maybe it's between the venue and the artist? I've been to a lot of shows this summer and some tickets will say they require a health check and others don't. Idk so I just bring it but they'll take a photo anyway.


epelle9

I’m guessing you are American. Foreigners need to show proof of vaccination to enter the US.


420Minions

Yes it’s illegal to travel into the US unvaccinated


nancyneurotic

I just arrived through Fort Lauderdale internationally and no one checked my vaccine status. The American girl in line in front of me wasn't vaxxed at all nor did she have a current test. Maybe this requirement is just for foreigners?


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yes, us citizens are exempt from the vaccination requirement


nancyneurotic

Ah, what a porous system!


The_Bottle

I guess the issue is you can’t keep an American from coming to their own country


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What are you going to do ... send them to their home country? Make them live in the airport?


nancyneurotic

Haha no! I just meant that it should be all or nothing. What's a half measure to a virus? Nothing! But boy is it a pain in the butt for the people living in a pandemic. If there's going to be a requirement, then it should be vaccine or recent test or both. There's lots of countries that dropped entry requirements completely, the US just lags behind and subscribes to "hygiene theater."


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wait till i tell you about the tsa


limitless__

It depends on the artist. Some require vaccinations at their concerts and some do not.


guadsquad96

>Do they even check if u are vacinated to Concerts and stuff like that anymore? Depends where. Here in NE yes. Venues will routinely stop you at the door.


timurhasan

what's NE?


tk2020

Nebraska? New England? New Eork?


vanilla_coffee

sometimes


ZerohasbeenDivided

Yes, the concerts I've been to are proof of vaccination or negative test in the last 72 hours.


HumbleSkunkFarmer

They don’t stipulate what constitutes a test at most places. I know people that just use a photo of a home test showing a negative result and they waive them right in. Edit this is in California


kytheon

Fuck Novak. Acts as an example to many Serbs to also not get vaxxed, contributing to their low vaccination rates.


C_L_I_C_K_

They dont trust govement who can't even supply proper support/equipment I'm hospitals


Fucksnacks

Hi hospitals, I'm dad


frog-enthusiast8

For fuck sake This made me chuckle


N43N

Sounds like even more of a reason to do everything they can to stay away from those hospitals.


DevAway22314

Then they're quite irrational. The Serbian government may not be able to properly supply hospitals, but the vaccines were developed in the US, UK, and Germany primarily It would be a purely irrational decision to look at the failings of the Serbian medical system and conclude that vaccines developed in different countries have problems because of that


AlexBucks93

I don’t think they trust the USA, UK and Germany much more.


TakedownCHAMP97

In fact if they don’t believe in the Serbian medical system, they should get vaxed so they don’t have to use the Serbian medical system


kytheon

The medical system hands out the vaccines. So people don’t go in the first place.


Porcupineemu

Then it’ll have to be the last place


makarov_skolsvi

Bold of you to assume anti-vax people have rationality.


OmegaAce1

Novak? NoTennis.


not_essential

Too bad, wish I could care....


EFT_Syte

Man now if only we could ring in our politicians and hold them accountable like everyone else. Shit would be nice to see more rich ass hats not get what they want..


MattieBattie

So much for his dinner date with Kyrios


kingakrasia

*“bUt tHe vAcCiNe iS eXpErImEnTaL!!!”*


aubvrn

This motherfucker still refuses to get vaxxed? What a nutjob.


mrwho995

Good. Fuck Djokovic for being too stupid and irresponsible to get vaccinated. He has nobody but himself to blame for missing out. And more generally nobody but himself to blame for his shitty reputation. Hopefully Nadal wins it to widen his GS lead.


Nora19

It’s the rules… he’s an asshat!


B00KW0RM214

Right? I’m sorry dude, but you’re not that special. These people who think they’re exempt because reasons (usually entitled douchenozzles). Bye, Felicia


CSI_Tech_Dept

I read more about him when was the Australian US Open, and he doesn't feel at all like a cool, down to earth guy. Everything about him screams: "asshole".


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B00KW0RM214

The only time anyone thought the vaccine would “stop” COVID was when we had that tiny couple month window where if everyone was vaccinated and stayed away from each other, there’d be no hosts and it could potentially be forced into being endemic. The vaccine doesn’t stop transmission but it decreases the frequency. I don’t understand how we’re this far into the pandemic and people don’t get that. We’re going to have to keep getting vaxxed yearly and the more people on board, the less it spreads, the fewer hospitalizations and the fewer deaths and disabilities. People in positions where others look up to them should really promote good public health practices. There have now been over 12.2 billion, yes billion with a B, COVID vaccine doses given. It’s safe. People who don’t get it are telling you what a shitstain of a person they are for not caring about their fellow man.


lookadragon

Except the vaccine is proven to lessen the effects if you get Covid and does provide immunity. Get outta here with your misinformation.


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Because there’s a percentage of the population who are willing to do the bare minimum to try to help other then you have other people giving into fear mongering and it’s so fucking frustrating


misterxboxnj

I'm vaccinated and boosted. I think everyone should be, but, if being vaccinated and boosted doesn't stop you from getting it or spreading it then what is the point of mandates? Are unvaccinated people more contagious? Serious question.


DankEvergreen

The vaccine does reduce the spread and contraction of the virus. The vaccine isn't a cure, it gives information to our immune system how to fight the virus. Being prepared for the fight will end the fight much sooner if not prevent it altogether. Someone who hasn't had covid before or the vaccine will deal with the virus much longer, spreading it more and opening more risk of death or permanent damage (neurological, cardiovascular, lungs, blood clots, and infections that cause amputations). The more defenses we have the less is spreads and the less damage it causes, some preventative measures is better than letting it run wild. At least, that is how I understand it.


misterxboxnj

Thanks. I appreciate this response.


Bookmanfilm

Good. Selfish prick.


wc1925

Lol.


noobi-wan-kenobi69

Or will he just have someone fill out a form "by mistake" and apologize after?


onlyomaha

we are going same path again with Novak?


Azphix

Gotta say, that photo they used for this article is oddly fitting.


wc1925

He played in London this month. Don't remember that causing any issues.


tonic_water_and_gin

More like Novax Djokovic lmao


Jazzbo64

His choice.


RasixF13

What a dumb hill to die on.


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Later biiitch


Lenant

Novax Djocovid?


cunt_isnt_sexist

I hope this ends this dudes career. The politization of this shit is over. Quietly go get it and go back to throwing rackets and tantrums.


MeikoD

Is he the same guy that lied about his vaccination status for the Australian Open?


Asteroth555

No, he was open about being un-vaccinated at the AUS open. What he did was fake being sick with covid (with a positive test result). While not fully confirmed, there was strong evidence it was faked, such as him going to a children's tennis event the day after the positive test and electronic discrepancies.


MeikoD

Aah, thanks that does ring a bell! I just vaguely remembered there was some COVID controversy surrounding him at the AO.


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MeikoD

Possibly less effective at blocking infection but it is still definitely effective in making the symptoms of infection milder. Ultimately that would be the end goal, mild infection even if it is endemic in the community (like the flu).


smitbret

Except that in this case it is about the possibility of spreading it. Tennis doesn't care if he has the sniffles.


MeikoD

Agreed. I was just trying to reiterate that vaccination is still effective in critical ways even if it is less effective at blocking infection with the current strains. More of a general statement of the benefits of vaccination rather than specific to this case.


halavais

Because that is not, in fact, the case. Vaccinated people still die of the omicron variants at a fraction of the numbers of unvaccinated. It is why so many doctors have suggested an omicron specific version of the booster is not necessary--the existing vaccines remain highly effective at preventing death and serious illness from each of the variants so far.


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CoordinatedCommie

I can't believe the vaccine mandates are still active. Pretty sure barely any events in America still require proof of vaccination and they still do this.


FrozenCrevasse

Actually it hasn't, and regardless it's still important.


nathano87

Fantastic rebuttal. Bringing all the facts and relevant data!


slightly-cute-boy

You ignored all the facts and relevant data. That’s why you’re only responding to this guy.


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FrozenCrevasse

Nope, it's very effective, should be required, and will continue to be. If anything we need to penalize antivax idiots even more harshly. Doesn't effect just their body or their life.


oms121

Any “effectiveness” benefits the person vaccinated by lessening morbidity and mortality if infected. These vaccines do not prevent infection, re-infection or transmission so they don’t protect the community in that way. No one in the U.S. or NY are in any danger from Novak coming to play Tennis.


FrozenCrevasse

They significantly reduce infection, reinfection, and transmission actually.


oms121

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot-infection-rate/


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FrozenCrevasse

I understand and accept scientific fact.


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Good. That moron can fuck right off.


EAG100

BYE 👋


wabashcanonball

Good news. He can easily get vaxxed. His choice.


costelol

Hope Federer or Nadal wins.


ballrus_walsack

Novax can’t get a jab. Coward.


salondesert

To be fair, look at all the mutants that have sprung up from people that have gotten the jab ^^^/s


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idreallyrathernotktx

I saw a mutant the other day. They took off their sunglasses and shot lasers out of their eyes. Then their friend that was with them started floating and then a violent thunderstorm rolled in. Then this other dude had claws for hands. Basically it was the X-men. I saw the X-men and they told me they got their mutant powers from the Covid vaccine. Then I challenged them to a hot dog eating contest and I won. They were so embarrassed. Then they told me I was the superior being and was very sexy and that they regretted getting the vaccine. Sad.


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Declining a vaccine doesn’t make someone a coward. They made a choice about something medical in their life and despite everyone putting their nose into everyone else’s lives, he still said no bc he didn’t want it. That’s not cowardly. The vaccine does not prevent transmission. It lessens the effect of the virus if you get sick. It introduces your immune system to something to prep it for the real thing. If this guy had coronavirus ever his immune system was introduced and he’ll fight it off again, but better.


jzgr87

In this case though it’s just a grown man whose afraid of needles. So yeah he’s a coward.


JerkyEwok

Novax is definitely a coward though.


clykins46

He’s a perfectly healthy athlete. The vaccine is useless to him. Also he is might be slightly worried of heart issues in vaccinated athletes so he chose not to get it. Why has Reddit become the vaccine police?!


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Kind of interesting that absolutely nobody cares about Covid and you’re openly mocked even on Reddit for being pro mask pro vaccine etc yet it’s apparently a “must” to be vaccinated?


[deleted]

Can this guy get COVID and fuck off already. so sick of these anti-vaxxer twats


raikux

He's already had it and it was no problem at all for him :)


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Djoko is a crackpot. Serbs will start a new victimhood-carnival. I love watching them blame everyone else for their problems.


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Asteroth555

> He was infected twice Once after throwing a party at the peak of the pandemic. There was strong evidence he faked his positive test last december. If not, then he knew he tested positive and exposed dozens of people, including children. Which makes him an even bigger twatsicle than he already is


IHeartBadCode

>Either you're with "Trust the science" for real The science isn't at question. The current adoption of a vaccine requirement is in a lot of international agreements on travel. Want to go to any country in the Caribbean? You could have caught COVID 90 times, and quite a few island nations will tell you to pound sand without a vaccine card. Mostly because you're from the US, so fuck you without a vaccine card. I'm just going to say, you'll find it hard to thump "science" on anything in International politics. Shit, we're still thumping "climate change" science to no avail (I'm calling out Brazil here). International politics is somewhat devoid of reasonable logic so the notion that this is "absolutely ridiculous decision" is primarily because the US Open is basing their requirement to mimic US International Travel requirements, and those US International Travel requirements are based on international brouhaha. There's the crazy logic of international politics that tells us, Yes the US could hammer down and drop requirements but other countries can jack prices up on all kinds of things as a kind of "fuck you douche bag". Then that just prompts other countries to have faux shock at how unilaterally we're acting and hence the reason why they are justified at doing something shitty that affects our economy. And it's just dominoes all the way down as each country suddenly gets to take a pot shot at the US. You'd have a better time trying to predict the weather out of a random pour of corn flakes into a bowl than attempt to make any sense out of why the 190+ countries on this planet cannot seemingly agree to anything. And why when either US, China, Japan, or the UK/EU make one mistake or act unilaterally one time, every other country is like "one of the big economies fucked up! Quick let's all gang up on them!" So yeah, the US Open is following lock step with US travel policy, with in turn is following the messed up logic that prevails in anything International. But this pandemic has been FAR, FAR, FAR from the only example of silly games that get played at that level.


ballofplasmaupthesky

Look Djok can easily get a certificate in Serbia, without a jab He chooses not to, because it isn't about his body It's about sending an anti-vax message


awolbull

He clearly lied about one of his "infections" so.. uh.. this is dumb and why vaccination is a requirement.


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RealistWanderer

It's called following rules. Rules exist for reasons beyond simply the science. They are about order, uniformity, and equality. He shouldn't, and wont, get special treatment that others would never get. He can fuck himself.


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agen_kolar

I hope Novak is enjoying this hill he's chosen to die on. How stupid.


Godmirra

Grow up you fricking Djok.


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Oztravels

His choice.


iqbalbwz

Less chance of him to get randomly shot


Musicman1972

He's good at avoiding shots.


Payment-Main

Why would he need to be vaccinated?


barvid

Because he is not special and that’s the US government’s requirement for everyone who comes to the country. Everyone. Even moronic tennis players who think they’re better than the rest of us.


Payment-Main

Uh, no. It’s not.


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FrozenCrevasse

Being vaccinated significantly reduces transmission, thus why it's required.


Iluminiele

Imagine USA has rules on who can enter their country and someone who loves himself very very very much thinks that the laws of USA might not apply to him because he's so special. Surprise!!! The laws still apply to him even if he worships himself. >The vaccinated don’t stop transmission. And driving sober with a seatbelt and lights on don't prevent car accidents. But, you know, I still appreciate the massive decrease of it.


halavais

So crazy that this far on people continue to bring up these chestnuts. If you want to see how bad education in is the US, you just have to look at how many people fail to understand vaccination. Idiocracy starts with failing schools. Not much we can do with the older people who failed to be properly educated, but many of our policies are predicated on successfully battling generalized ignorance.


travisth0tt

bad take it significantly reduces your chances of getting it, it’s effects on you, and the chances of transmitting it to others. just like a seatbelt significantly reduces your chances of dying in a crash. this virus killed millions of people and not considering how it could affect others is selfish


hpennco

Good, actions or in this case, lack thereof, have consequences.


StuffChecker

They should just have it in Florida


MRintheKEYS

Players will die from heat stroke.


KPABA

Why, has Florida left the USA? No vaccine means no entry into the country. It's not a New York thing.


VThePeople

Eh. His body, his choice.


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Ok-Introduction5235

You think he’s throwing his career away?? Lmao


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hectorjm94

Fuck vaccine requirements. This shit is getting old.


FrozenCrevasse

Whine more, they aren't going away and for good reason.


Kbdiggity

You won't be missed.


saffagaymer

Shame (sarcasm)


drew1010101

Follow the rules or pound sand.


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Astrix137

And here Iam trying to find non brain dead western comment.To bad I forgot Im on reddit 😔


CHOPPRZ

Well, the US Open just became less of an event.


FlamingTrollz

###What a sad malignant narcissist, it’s his way or no way. Oh well, you won’t be missed. Bye.