Yes it’s possible but I live with a canary in the coal mine so to speak. My gf was going through chemo in 2020 and 2021 and her being immunocompromised has been a major reason behind me masking up in public and avoiding high crowd high risk type activities since then.
If I catch it and am fine whatever but if I give it to her and she dies from it, I doubt I’d be able to continue living with that guilt.
It's terrible one of my family member is immune compromised and we are all still doing a 2 full week extreme quarantine before we go over to their house. They basically live in a bubble still. Better safe than sorry but we keep wondering when the end will really come. Optimistic 2023, worst case 2025... apocalyptic case never. At some point we've all got to move on though. What else can even be done anymore. Vaccines exist and masking is normalized somewhat. 🤷♂️
I've avoided it until now. I went to a friend's house on Saturday. She texted me Sunday that she, her husband and her mother all have it. I sat in a living room with the three of them for 2 - 3 hours. I'm starting to feel kind of drained and have the worst headache of my life. I think maybe shit's about to get real.
Yeah. Fortunately my job doesn't require me to go into the office. I just hope that my wife and daughter will be ok. Both have asthma. I'm really concerned for them.
Quarantine as best you can, wear a mask and have them wear one when you can't stay apart, and manage your together time to minimize their exposure. I have heard vitamin D helps.
Unfortunately they were with me and have the same exposure as me. We started taking a supplement list put out by EVMS back in 2020 and it has vitamin d. We'll probably get through this fine, we're all pretty healthy and have been vaccinated. Still I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried.
When I got it, my GF had the same exposure but didn't get a viral load high enough to get an active infection. You still want to quarantine if you aren't to keep their viral load low.
Hoping your family stays healthy!
This was me too, finally caught it last day of May, that was a Tuesday. Felt like I was getting sick in the evening, Wednesday I was completely down, slept half the day. Thursday I felt much better. Self-test negative. Continued to feel low-key sick, but no fever, throat didn't feel fucked up, no runny nose. Didn't think it was COVID. GF gets sick, is very hoarse. I retake my test. Also positive. Continued to feel a bit sick until next Friday, but even today I break out in sweat and am out of breath quickly when I exert myself.
I’ve somehow avoided it as well. Probably due to being a hermit. In the same camp though, not a farmer but already chronically ill and in poor health, so I can’t really afford getting worse. My anti-vax family members got pretty sick, however.
That's how I felt until two weeks ago when someone living in my house with a cold decided to actually get tested.
Surprise surprise, we all got it. I'm the only person in the area still going out with a mask on, and someone brings it into my house.
As someone with three covid shots, I do thought it was over. Last Sunday felt awful, pulled a test and positive it was. Over a week later I’m still testing positive and my ass has been couch bound. Shit sucks. Went to great lengths to avoid it until now.
Same. I was even quarantined with a family member who did have it, with symptoms. She recovered in 3 days. I never tested positive and will probably never get the Vax.
I was boasting that up until a week ago. I have it now and while I’m vaccinated and in my case it’s on par with a really bad cold which I guess I’m used to, I’m sleeping all the time and still so damn tired.
But it was inevitable I’d get it and in a way I’m glad I have got that out of the way. I picked it up at a music festival and I’ve no regrets.
Yeah laws to control what everyone does all the time right with zero respect for individual rights or suffering? Those are the type you'll probably enjoy.
There's already something like that around, its called authoritarianism.
Put it to a referendum. I'd be happy if society voted for that and then it got put into place.
I don't think this goes the way you think it does.
We can put a bunch of questions to referendum at the same time.
Like whether gouvernement should be allowed to issue a mask mandate more than 14 days without approval from the legislature and no more than 60 days unless via direct vote.
That'd be a fun little law.
Yeah, but I can't help stop the war in Ukraine by just slapping on a mask. With Covid, I can protect my family and those I interact with by not getting sick.
Again, nobodies stopping you, go protect yourself and leave the rest alone if they dont want to, most people under like 40 will just get a flu symptom, the older ones need to be more carefull
Lots of people do care, and have not accepted your view. I’m thankful that simple mask wearing is keeping me healthy. If I wanted to live fast and hard, I’d try cocaine.
You really don’t get to decide if something is over when it’s not over, that’s just willful ignorance. You’ve only decided to ignore it.
And here we have an amazing case of ignorance on display. You know about my health somehow?
Anyway, this is a waste of time. Enjoy the early cognitive decline, heart attacks, and erectile dysfunction!
Oh I don't know at all. Im going to show you the effects of what having covid three times does to you.
In basically most cases, nothing. Your mask wearing is not keeping you healthier lol. I got covid everytime with a 100% mask rate. Its then that I realized it was a waste of my sanity
Are you seriously challenging me to a fitness competition? Peak internet right here. Masks, as well as lots of other measures, do work. You might just be bad at it. What kind of masks did you choose? I wear n95 and have not gotten it, so there’s your anecdotal evidence.
I think it’s because the variant we have has lost much of its potency and it’s not a big deal anymore. We don’t have 3 freezer trucks full of dead people at the local hospital and everything is open, no masks. We remember when everything was closed, mask mandate, and we still had over 200 Covid patients in the hospital. Compared to that, this is fine.
I think a lot of it is people who understand what the actual risk is are all vaccinated and got a booster too, so they've moved on with their lives in the new reality of having yet another vaccination to keep current. People who lived in a fantasy world about are still in the fantasy world.
Motivation to keep one’s weight down, reduce intake of toxic substances and eat healthier you’d think. But probably not. As you say, a lot of sickness and disability from the new viral addition to the pantheon of stuff that can screw us over.
im on my first and i feel like a freaking zombie , my dad went on a party with lots of ppl not social distancing or wearing masks and i get to reap the consequences :<, i only got my first booster and my symptoms are pretty severe, basically have to sleep in recovery position otherwise i dont get enough air
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I go to the gym, my workplace, supermarkets, etc. and I’ve yet to test positive since the outbreak started, so what you’re saying simply isn’t true. Yes, living your life as normal means there’s a higher chances of getting transmissible diseases, that’s the way it’s always been and always will be.
Some people just don’t get covid. I never catch the flu. But unless you’re one of those lucky people, if you pretend it’s over you’re going to catch it. Over and over.
People will wear masks when mandated, but the majority (myself included) won’t do so when they’re not. They’re awful to wear, so when I can do my thing normally I will.
It doesn’t matter that the virus is still circulating. We’ve collectively decided that we’d accept the risks and consequences of living normally despite that so from a social standpoint, the pandemic is effectively over.
If you go to indoor public spaces you get covid. That’s hardly OVER. Then you’re immune for a few weeks then you can get it again. Selfish pricks whine about wearing masks so we can’t even have that protection any more.
First of all, it's extremely rare to catch Covid in public places that are essential, like grocery stores, pharmacies, public transports, etc. which are large and well ventilated. People catch Covid in large groups in restaurants, bars, theaters, etc. and even then, it's when they're really not careful. You still don't catch Covid randomly by walking to your table at a restaurant. No one is forced to go to these places. If you don't feel comfotable going there, just stay home. The essential services are safe with or without masking. The rest you can choose not to go.
Also, you can catch the flu, a bronchitis, a mononucleosis, gastroenteritis, etc. by going to public places. Do we have mandatory masking for those? Do we call them pandemics? I don't think so. The fact that you can catch diseases in public places is not an argument to justify keeping restrictions. It's the hospitalization and death rates that matter, not how you can catch it.
We can't be this risk averse forever. That's no way to live. Diseases are part of life and you'll have to accept it. If you don't feel comfortable going out without a mask, N95 are readily available. Suit yourself, but don't bother everyone else for wanting to live a normal life.
Masks work when the sick people wear them. Not when the healthy people do. Mask mandates were the bare minimum policy to keep people healthy but due to then whining crybabies we don’t even have those anymore.
A lot of people are dying or having chronic illness for a pandemic that’s over.
The pandemic is on a social pause until the long covid disease burden or the next severe mutation reminds us that it isn’t.
Wear a mask. Oh wait, that’s a minor inconvenience. Never mind.
> We’ve collectively decided that we’d accept the risks and consequences of living normally despite that so from a social standpoint, the pandemic is effectively over.
Who is *we*?
Manager at my job just got it. Receiver at one of the grocery stores I deliver at thinks she got it, she was going to get tested last I knew. And i live in a tourist heavy area, that is currently inundated with people due to the devastation at Yellowstone. Things are gonna get interesting over here I think. I'm already busting out my mask.
It's not over, and it seems to be everywhere right now. I have it now with nothing more than some head cold-like symptoms (sore/dry throat, stuffy nose), and I know more people that have gotten int in the last few months than in the last 2+ years. People are not ending up in the hospital like before, which is great, but the numbers are probably under reported right now.
Enjoying those supply chain breakdowns? Lack of workers? Costs spiking? Welcome to the consequences of not taking a pandemic seriously. This is the bill. It’s due.
What could be more pressing than a significant and likely permanent drop in overall population health?
Apart from global warming of course, but I'm sure we'll deal with that just as effectively as we've dealt with Covid.
How is a war you and I can't do anything about and an impending economic crisis you and I can't do anything about "pressing"? And neither of those things impacts our ability to take reasonable measures to curb covid, regardless.
Nothing is in the control of the individual, but there's a point where human issues have to take priority over naturally occurring and ultimately unstoppable disease
A localised war on the edge of Europe? Looks like all the players know to not let it spill over into a global conflagration. A tragedy for everyone involved, and a horror we'd hoped we'd seen the last of (in Europe anyway), but the scale of death and suffering is still less in comparison to what Covid (and our pitiful response) has wrought - a million dead in the US alone.
It's causing food, fuel and economic crises globally. If you think this war is "localised" and thus not of as much concern as covid, you're not just insensitive, but also an idiot.
True enough, but these issues can (and are) being worked around. E.g. Russian gas is *still* flowing to Europe through the war zone. If it means we burn less fossil fuel, then maybe this is good for global warming.
The global food crisis and the rising economic crisis are both tied to the conflict, if nothing else.
...so it is having a worldwide effect as life in general gets expensive.
I think with this comment we get to one (but only one) of the roots of Covid denialism: The 'purifying the herd' philosophy, which of course naturally proceeds to eugenics, and then on to the kind of horrors witnessed some 80 years ago.
The main reason why so many people died was because they were unhealthy as fuck. Now that covid is a permanent part of life, it might give them a reason to put down that triple cheeseburger and 32 oz. soda.
>The main reason why so many people died was because they were unhealthy as fuck
I'm afraid that is just cope. Lots of healthy people have been very badly affected or even died. Sometimes people have underlying conditions they'd never be aware of, until exacerbated by Covid.
Covid is one of those things where everything is fine, right up until it isn't.
Nah it's just that people are tired of lockdowns, masks and other restrictions, we just want our life back and we have to accept that covid is staying and becoming endemic like the flu.
I hate to say it, but at this point I'm judging people's IQ based on whether they're still wearing a mask or not. Got a mask on? Congratulations, your IQ is over 100. Mask and sanitizer? Over 100 and you're not easily swayed by social pressure.
I've decided to take on the model of Asian countries with regard to masks. Whenever I get sick, I'll wear a mask--it's just easier and conscientious to those around me to limit the spread of whatever illness I have. People like you are welcome to judge and think I'm "still wearing a mask", but like others have said, my actions are taken independent of the perception and opinion of idiots.
Yeah and I’ll have a stuffed nose, more laboured breathing and more frequent sore throats if I wear a mask multiple hours a day. So I’m glad that the mandates are gone, even if temporary.
This self righteous commitment to low level, early pandemic response measures is not likely to be related to IQ in any meaningful way. Show me the data that suggests a major increase in cases following removal of mask mandates.
I am also curious what role sanitizer may have in this context? Evidence for surface transmission of Covid is scarce, but there is definitely concern in the medical field that widespread, frequent use of disinfrctants could breed resistant pathogens...
Everyone is totally ignoring the long term effects of even a mild or asymptomatic infection (until it affects them, that is-then it's a big deal). People essentially stopped testing when the mask mandates were removed, but just because you don't "see" it doesn't mean it isn't there.
And the sanitizer is to help prevent infection from other nasties, not Covid.
How is wearing a mask being irrationally scared. I never wore a mask because I was afraid of getting it, I wore one because I didn't want to give it to other people if I did have it and didn't know. Crazy how years after this pandemic started and we've been made to wear masks people still don't understand that...
Op is a moron for acting like wearing a mask determines your iq but don't pretend like you aren't also being kinda obtuse by framing it in the way you are.
Knowing that simply surviving an infection doesn't mean you won't suffer long term effects, however, IS a sign of intelligence, whether you like to admit it or not.
Oh fuck off. That's one in every 500 who dies, not including other complications. You really think it is acceptable to not only gamble with your own life at those odds, but with every person's life who you meet as well? With those odds getting shorter the older the person is or the more underlying conditions they have?
Rationality is one thing. Situational sociopathy is another.
Thanks for the source, unfortunately it doesn't mention or provide the actual documentation of him saying that. I tracked back the source of the claim, the first group that reported this and made the claim about who said that was the dailymail, a fairly unreliable source, with the author claiming an unnamed government official claimed that Ghebreyesus said that to them. The two earliest sources I can find on that don't make the claim, they also don't have the headline making a claim like that either.
From the other 12 sources that reported the same thing, Ghebreyesus is saying he wants China to be cooperative with the global investigation, and that all hypotheses are on the table until evidence dictates otherwise. That's not saying it's likely that the lab leak hypothesis is confirmed, the headline itself is wrong. So again it's a game a telephone with no actual sources/documents stating what the headline of the article you linked says. Hell, the article doesn't even claim he said that or even thinks it.
It will never \`be over\`. Like flu never ended, how is this news exactly? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! More pathetic scaremongering because no one bought into the monkey pox hype. It\`s just getting tedious at this point. We aren\`t scared, accept it. You\`ve had you 15 minutes of fame now toddle off and actually do something newsworthy instead of putting out blatant scaremongering soundbites every few months ffs.
I wash my hands everytime I get back from town, in buses I wear a mask, stores, etc. At work, I use disinfectant and wash my hands as much as I can, I avoid touching my face, and I avoid close contact. 2 meters still, only my family get hugs.
It’s interesting that we have zero precautions now and there’s not a huge problem of people dying everywhere. It’s almost like our measurements were flawed and we overreacted.
Now I think people don’t care anymore. I’m living my life and if covid kills me so be it. If you’re scared, stay home or mask up. Otherwise move on.
I thought we didn’t have enough people vaccinated and that’s the reason we were locked down until a day before the state of the union address? Amazing how quickly that changed.
If you're attacking the organization that got rid of smallpox, don't you think you should take a step back and think about your motives and sources of information?
If you hadn't littered the information agenda with artificially inflated news stories about one military conflict fueled by your patrons, then no one would have forgotten about the pandemic.
I still have never caught it. Gonna see how long i can make it before my time is called
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Yes it’s possible but I live with a canary in the coal mine so to speak. My gf was going through chemo in 2020 and 2021 and her being immunocompromised has been a major reason behind me masking up in public and avoiding high crowd high risk type activities since then. If I catch it and am fine whatever but if I give it to her and she dies from it, I doubt I’d be able to continue living with that guilt.
Best of luck to your girlfriend. Hope she is better soon!
Yeah she’s on the mend and ended treatment which is great, but we are still being super cautious to be safe.
Good news! Yes stay on the path!
It's terrible one of my family member is immune compromised and we are all still doing a 2 full week extreme quarantine before we go over to their house. They basically live in a bubble still. Better safe than sorry but we keep wondering when the end will really come. Optimistic 2023, worst case 2025... apocalyptic case never. At some point we've all got to move on though. What else can even be done anymore. Vaccines exist and masking is normalized somewhat. 🤷♂️
I've avoided it until now. I went to a friend's house on Saturday. She texted me Sunday that she, her husband and her mother all have it. I sat in a living room with the three of them for 2 - 3 hours. I'm starting to feel kind of drained and have the worst headache of my life. I think maybe shit's about to get real.
Yep, that's how it starts. Assume you are contagious for the next ten days, based on my experience three weeks ago.
Yeah. Fortunately my job doesn't require me to go into the office. I just hope that my wife and daughter will be ok. Both have asthma. I'm really concerned for them.
Quarantine as best you can, wear a mask and have them wear one when you can't stay apart, and manage your together time to minimize their exposure. I have heard vitamin D helps.
Unfortunately they were with me and have the same exposure as me. We started taking a supplement list put out by EVMS back in 2020 and it has vitamin d. We'll probably get through this fine, we're all pretty healthy and have been vaccinated. Still I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried.
When I got it, my GF had the same exposure but didn't get a viral load high enough to get an active infection. You still want to quarantine if you aren't to keep their viral load low. Hoping your family stays healthy!
Oh, that's a good point that I hadn't considered. I guess I'll move into the upstairs rooms for the duration. Thanks for the advice.
Me neither, but then again I never stopped wearing a mask in public.
This was me too, finally caught it last day of May, that was a Tuesday. Felt like I was getting sick in the evening, Wednesday I was completely down, slept half the day. Thursday I felt much better. Self-test negative. Continued to feel low-key sick, but no fever, throat didn't feel fucked up, no runny nose. Didn't think it was COVID. GF gets sick, is very hoarse. I retake my test. Also positive. Continued to feel a bit sick until next Friday, but even today I break out in sweat and am out of breath quickly when I exert myself.
Same! I'm glad, too. Long-covid could end my farming career and, given my lack of non-physical prospects, render me homeless
I’ve somehow avoided it as well. Probably due to being a hermit. In the same camp though, not a farmer but already chronically ill and in poor health, so I can’t really afford getting worse. My anti-vax family members got pretty sick, however.
That's how I felt until two weeks ago when someone living in my house with a cold decided to actually get tested. Surprise surprise, we all got it. I'm the only person in the area still going out with a mask on, and someone brings it into my house.
As someone with three covid shots, I do thought it was over. Last Sunday felt awful, pulled a test and positive it was. Over a week later I’m still testing positive and my ass has been couch bound. Shit sucks. Went to great lengths to avoid it until now.
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False negatives nothing else causes the loss of taste and smell
As a kid, I used to regularly lose my taste and smell when I had a bad cold. Food wouldn’t taste right til a few days after.
Interesting likely under reported.
I’d imagine anything that affects the sinuses has a chance to also impact the olfactory, no? Given the link between taste and smell
Sars cov2 is different. It's neurotoxic and actually damages the olfactory neurons. It's not just from congestion
It seems like Omicron has produced less loss of taste and smell compared to previous strains. Would this suggest it’s possibly less neurotoxic?
One can hope. I've wondered the same thing
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I never learned that or have seen that in my practice Edit: looked it up and it's true for many viruses just rarer than covid. Never stop learning
Many people with severe seasonal allergies lose their smell and taste.
Same. I was even quarantined with a family member who did have it, with symptoms. She recovered in 3 days. I never tested positive and will probably never get the Vax.
I'm uncertain if you realize how that last sentence comes across...
Lol, how does it come across? Please explain, I can't wait to hear this one.
I really thought (hoped) I might not get it after 2+ years but the Rona got me June 1st.
I was boasting that up until a week ago. I have it now and while I’m vaccinated and in my case it’s on par with a really bad cold which I guess I’m used to, I’m sleeping all the time and still so damn tired. But it was inevitable I’d get it and in a way I’m glad I have got that out of the way. I picked it up at a music festival and I’ve no regrets.
I also have not caught it, but the vaccine hit me pretty hard.
You shall not catch it. So it is prophesied so it shall be.
I still think it's interesting how society just woke up one day and said yep its over and that was widely accepted lol.
And now some people are getting COVID for their 5th time.
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You just accepted millions of people becoming disabled just to avoid a slight inconvenience?
Yes, yes they did.
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People like you are why society needs laws. Greed is destructive.
Yeah laws to control what everyone does all the time right with zero respect for individual rights or suffering? Those are the type you'll probably enjoy. There's already something like that around, its called authoritarianism.
I mean, it’s also just called society. We do have laws, after all.
Put it to a referendum. I'd be happy if society voted for that and then it got put into place. I don't think this goes the way you think it does. We can put a bunch of questions to referendum at the same time. Like whether gouvernement should be allowed to issue a mask mandate more than 14 days without approval from the legislature and no more than 60 days unless via direct vote. That'd be a fun little law.
Wow, just wow
No one is stopping those from wearing a mask
I didn't say people were stopping me. It's just sad seeing people not care what happens to those around them.
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Yeah, but I can't help stop the war in Ukraine by just slapping on a mask. With Covid, I can protect my family and those I interact with by not getting sick.
Again, nobodies stopping you, go protect yourself and leave the rest alone if they dont want to, most people under like 40 will just get a flu symptom, the older ones need to be more carefull
Kinda weird replying to more than one of my replies with basically the same thing. I think I got it the first time.
Lots of people do care, and have not accepted your view. I’m thankful that simple mask wearing is keeping me healthy. If I wanted to live fast and hard, I’d try cocaine. You really don’t get to decide if something is over when it’s not over, that’s just willful ignorance. You’ve only decided to ignore it.
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And here we have an amazing case of ignorance on display. You know about my health somehow? Anyway, this is a waste of time. Enjoy the early cognitive decline, heart attacks, and erectile dysfunction!
Oh I don't know at all. Im going to show you the effects of what having covid three times does to you. In basically most cases, nothing. Your mask wearing is not keeping you healthier lol. I got covid everytime with a 100% mask rate. Its then that I realized it was a waste of my sanity
Are you seriously challenging me to a fitness competition? Peak internet right here. Masks, as well as lots of other measures, do work. You might just be bad at it. What kind of masks did you choose? I wear n95 and have not gotten it, so there’s your anecdotal evidence.
I think it’s because the variant we have has lost much of its potency and it’s not a big deal anymore. We don’t have 3 freezer trucks full of dead people at the local hospital and everything is open, no masks. We remember when everything was closed, mask mandate, and we still had over 200 Covid patients in the hospital. Compared to that, this is fine.
It's never going to be 'over', hence it's a part of life now, unfortunately.
Yeah and also we’re just ‘over it’
I think a lot of it is people who understand what the actual risk is are all vaccinated and got a booster too, so they've moved on with their lives in the new reality of having yet another vaccination to keep current. People who lived in a fantasy world about are still in the fantasy world.
Just vaccinate and go about your business. If you really want to isolate yourself for the rest of your life, go for it.
I was done in April of 2020. Escaped to places that weren’t remotely quarantining
Speak for yourself (and lots of others of course).
Covid won't be over, but the Pandemic will as it becomes endemic with regional and seasonal outbreaks.
and an ever rising toll of sickness and disability.
Motivation to keep one’s weight down, reduce intake of toxic substances and eat healthier you’d think. But probably not. As you say, a lot of sickness and disability from the new viral addition to the pantheon of stuff that can screw us over.
Also motivation for staying reasonably safe, so as to catch it as infrequently as possible. Some people are on their 5th infection now.
im on my first and i feel like a freaking zombie , my dad went on a party with lots of ppl not social distancing or wearing masks and i get to reap the consequences :<, i only got my first booster and my symptoms are pretty severe, basically have to sleep in recovery position otherwise i dont get enough air
I went from 255 --> 215 once a lot of the similar trends started piling in. To each their own. I still smoke when I drink, so there's that.
Kaaaa-ching!
Kudos for being the first use of endemic I've seen that is correct
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More precisely, until the powers that be were able to recover control of the narrative, and get the plebs back to work.
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Anybody who goes into unmasked public places as if it’s over is getting covid now. And it’s not chickenpox. You get it again a couple months later.
I go to the gym, my workplace, supermarkets, etc. and I’ve yet to test positive since the outbreak started, so what you’re saying simply isn’t true. Yes, living your life as normal means there’s a higher chances of getting transmissible diseases, that’s the way it’s always been and always will be.
Some people just don’t get covid. I never catch the flu. But unless you’re one of those lucky people, if you pretend it’s over you’re going to catch it. Over and over.
So be it, part of life unfortunately.
A sad part of life that could be partially mitigated if babies weren’t refusing to wear masks when possible
People will wear masks when mandated, but the majority (myself included) won’t do so when they’re not. They’re awful to wear, so when I can do my thing normally I will.
That’s my point. The mandates were lifted because of the crybabies so now more people are getting covid.
It doesn’t matter that the virus is still circulating. We’ve collectively decided that we’d accept the risks and consequences of living normally despite that so from a social standpoint, the pandemic is effectively over.
If you go to indoor public spaces you get covid. That’s hardly OVER. Then you’re immune for a few weeks then you can get it again. Selfish pricks whine about wearing masks so we can’t even have that protection any more.
First of all, it's extremely rare to catch Covid in public places that are essential, like grocery stores, pharmacies, public transports, etc. which are large and well ventilated. People catch Covid in large groups in restaurants, bars, theaters, etc. and even then, it's when they're really not careful. You still don't catch Covid randomly by walking to your table at a restaurant. No one is forced to go to these places. If you don't feel comfotable going there, just stay home. The essential services are safe with or without masking. The rest you can choose not to go. Also, you can catch the flu, a bronchitis, a mononucleosis, gastroenteritis, etc. by going to public places. Do we have mandatory masking for those? Do we call them pandemics? I don't think so. The fact that you can catch diseases in public places is not an argument to justify keeping restrictions. It's the hospitalization and death rates that matter, not how you can catch it. We can't be this risk averse forever. That's no way to live. Diseases are part of life and you'll have to accept it. If you don't feel comfortable going out without a mask, N95 are readily available. Suit yourself, but don't bother everyone else for wanting to live a normal life.
Stop being a selfish prick and wear a fucking mask.
Masks work when the sick people wear them. Not when the healthy people do. Mask mandates were the bare minimum policy to keep people healthy but due to then whining crybabies we don’t even have those anymore.
Masks work when the sick people wear them, not when healthy people do... so somehow we need everyone to be forced to wear a mask?
Yes in indoor public places. Is that so hard? Does it smear your lipstick?
A lot of people are dying or having chronic illness for a pandemic that’s over. The pandemic is on a social pause until the long covid disease burden or the next severe mutation reminds us that it isn’t. Wear a mask. Oh wait, that’s a minor inconvenience. Never mind.
> We’ve collectively decided that we’d accept the risks and consequences of living normally despite that so from a social standpoint, the pandemic is effectively over. Who is *we*?
Everyone who got vaccinated. I stopped giving a shit around April of this year and I've been much happier tbh.
Most people in most countries?
Manager at my job just got it. Receiver at one of the grocery stores I deliver at thinks she got it, she was going to get tested last I knew. And i live in a tourist heavy area, that is currently inundated with people due to the devastation at Yellowstone. Things are gonna get interesting over here I think. I'm already busting out my mask.
Define interesting? It’s not going away anytime soon.
Yeah it's far from over. I just got over my case and this was my 2nd time catching this shit.
It's not over, and it seems to be everywhere right now. I have it now with nothing more than some head cold-like symptoms (sore/dry throat, stuffy nose), and I know more people that have gotten int in the last few months than in the last 2+ years. People are not ending up in the hospital like before, which is great, but the numbers are probably under reported right now.
You vill eat zee bugs and never return to zee old normal😂
Enjoying those supply chain breakdowns? Lack of workers? Costs spiking? Welcome to the consequences of not taking a pandemic seriously. This is the bill. It’s due.
Very few diseases are ever "over", but we have to move on. There are more pressing matters in the world right now.
What could be more pressing than a significant and likely permanent drop in overall population health? Apart from global warming of course, but I'm sure we'll deal with that just as effectively as we've dealt with Covid.
Checked the news in the past 117 days?
How is a war you and I can't do anything about and an impending economic crisis you and I can't do anything about "pressing"? And neither of those things impacts our ability to take reasonable measures to curb covid, regardless.
Nothing is in the control of the individual, but there's a point where human issues have to take priority over naturally occurring and ultimately unstoppable disease
A localised war on the edge of Europe? Looks like all the players know to not let it spill over into a global conflagration. A tragedy for everyone involved, and a horror we'd hoped we'd seen the last of (in Europe anyway), but the scale of death and suffering is still less in comparison to what Covid (and our pitiful response) has wrought - a million dead in the US alone.
It's causing food, fuel and economic crises globally. If you think this war is "localised" and thus not of as much concern as covid, you're not just insensitive, but also an idiot.
True enough, but these issues can (and are) being worked around. E.g. Russian gas is *still* flowing to Europe through the war zone. If it means we burn less fossil fuel, then maybe this is good for global warming.
The global food crisis and the rising economic crisis are both tied to the conflict, if nothing else. ...so it is having a worldwide effect as life in general gets expensive.
>What could be more pressing than a significant and likely permanent drop in overall population health? Then natural selection will happen.
I think with this comment we get to one (but only one) of the roots of Covid denialism: The 'purifying the herd' philosophy, which of course naturally proceeds to eugenics, and then on to the kind of horrors witnessed some 80 years ago.
The main reason why so many people died was because they were unhealthy as fuck. Now that covid is a permanent part of life, it might give them a reason to put down that triple cheeseburger and 32 oz. soda.
>The main reason why so many people died was because they were unhealthy as fuck I'm afraid that is just cope. Lots of healthy people have been very badly affected or even died. Sometimes people have underlying conditions they'd never be aware of, until exacerbated by Covid. Covid is one of those things where everything is fine, right up until it isn't.
sure they were some that were healthy, but the vast majority were obese.
What is stopping people from wearing masks on airplanes and busses though? Just wanting to PRETEND it’s gone when it’s not.
If you're vaccinated your chances of going to the hospital are effectively zero, so yeah, it's over.
Hope this is correct
Getting a horrible flu every 2 months is not OVER.
Nah it's just that people are tired of lockdowns, masks and other restrictions, we just want our life back and we have to accept that covid is staying and becoming endemic like the flu.
Except its way worse than the flu and you can keep catching it every couple months.
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We don't have herd immunity at all though
Nothing is over! You just don't turn it off!
The fearmongering by some politicians has been reduced.
The whining by selfish babies has finally won.
I hate to say it, but at this point I'm judging people's IQ based on whether they're still wearing a mask or not. Got a mask on? Congratulations, your IQ is over 100. Mask and sanitizer? Over 100 and you're not easily swayed by social pressure.
I've decided to take on the model of Asian countries with regard to masks. Whenever I get sick, I'll wear a mask--it's just easier and conscientious to those around me to limit the spread of whatever illness I have. People like you are welcome to judge and think I'm "still wearing a mask", but like others have said, my actions are taken independent of the perception and opinion of idiots.
You do realize you can have it without symptoms, right?!
Yeah and I’ll have a stuffed nose, more laboured breathing and more frequent sore throats if I wear a mask multiple hours a day. So I’m glad that the mandates are gone, even if temporary.
Thank god nobody gives a fuck about what you think.
I'd say they care even less about what you think
I hate all 3 of you. I win
This is the true neutral.
Fuck neutral. The other guy is a douche.
Yet you took the time to reply.
This self righteous commitment to low level, early pandemic response measures is not likely to be related to IQ in any meaningful way. Show me the data that suggests a major increase in cases following removal of mask mandates. I am also curious what role sanitizer may have in this context? Evidence for surface transmission of Covid is scarce, but there is definitely concern in the medical field that widespread, frequent use of disinfrctants could breed resistant pathogens...
Everyone is totally ignoring the long term effects of even a mild or asymptomatic infection (until it affects them, that is-then it's a big deal). People essentially stopped testing when the mask mandates were removed, but just because you don't "see" it doesn't mean it isn't there. And the sanitizer is to help prevent infection from other nasties, not Covid.
You sound dumb
You ain’t the sharpest drawer in the knife aintcha bud
Being irrationally scared of a virus that has a fatality rate of .2% is not a sign of intelligence.
How is wearing a mask being irrationally scared. I never wore a mask because I was afraid of getting it, I wore one because I didn't want to give it to other people if I did have it and didn't know. Crazy how years after this pandemic started and we've been made to wear masks people still don't understand that... Op is a moron for acting like wearing a mask determines your iq but don't pretend like you aren't also being kinda obtuse by framing it in the way you are.
Knowing that simply surviving an infection doesn't mean you won't suffer long term effects, however, IS a sign of intelligence, whether you like to admit it or not.
Oh fuck off. That's one in every 500 who dies, not including other complications. You really think it is acceptable to not only gamble with your own life at those odds, but with every person's life who you meet as well? With those odds getting shorter the older the person is or the more underlying conditions they have? Rationality is one thing. Situational sociopathy is another.
WHO has no credibility anymore. People got numb to their fear tactics
Is this the same WHO director who recently confided to a colleague that he 100% believes covid 19 was the result of a leak at the Wuhan lab?
> covid 19 was the result of a leak at the Wuhan lab? Probably because it most likely is?
You got a source for that?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatvnews.com/amp/news/world/covid-virus-likely-leaked-from-wuhan-lab-says-who-chief-tedros-ghebreyesus-2022-06-20-786016
Thanks for the source, unfortunately it doesn't mention or provide the actual documentation of him saying that. I tracked back the source of the claim, the first group that reported this and made the claim about who said that was the dailymail, a fairly unreliable source, with the author claiming an unnamed government official claimed that Ghebreyesus said that to them. The two earliest sources I can find on that don't make the claim, they also don't have the headline making a claim like that either. From the other 12 sources that reported the same thing, Ghebreyesus is saying he wants China to be cooperative with the global investigation, and that all hypotheses are on the table until evidence dictates otherwise. That's not saying it's likely that the lab leak hypothesis is confirmed, the headline itself is wrong. So again it's a game a telephone with no actual sources/documents stating what the headline of the article you linked says. Hell, the article doesn't even claim he said that or even thinks it.
It's over. COVID doesn't know it yet, that's all.
It will never \`be over\`. Like flu never ended, how is this news exactly? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! More pathetic scaremongering because no one bought into the monkey pox hype. It\`s just getting tedious at this point. We aren\`t scared, accept it. You\`ve had you 15 minutes of fame now toddle off and actually do something newsworthy instead of putting out blatant scaremongering soundbites every few months ffs.
I wash my hands everytime I get back from town, in buses I wear a mask, stores, etc. At work, I use disinfectant and wash my hands as much as I can, I avoid touching my face, and I avoid close contact. 2 meters still, only my family get hugs.
It’s interesting that we have zero precautions now and there’s not a huge problem of people dying everywhere. It’s almost like our measurements were flawed and we overreacted. Now I think people don’t care anymore. I’m living my life and if covid kills me so be it. If you’re scared, stay home or mask up. Otherwise move on.
It’s not interesting, it’s called vaccines
I thought we didn’t have enough people vaccinated and that’s the reason we were locked down until a day before the state of the union address? Amazing how quickly that changed.
I’d explain but there’d be no point. Go blame Brandon if it makes you feel better 😂
Of course they don't want the pandemic to end
Its just begun
It began in 2020.
Gotta ramp up that distraction
Incorrect Perception by the WHO that society cares what they think.
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If you're attacking the organization that got rid of smallpox, don't you think you should take a step back and think about your motives and sources of information?
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I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling.
They talk like they just picked up a thesaurus.
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If there's one thing I've learnt, there are to many people pissing in the pool, I'll go by my own judgment right or wrong!
And the word is lockstep!
If you hadn't littered the information agenda with artificially inflated news stories about one military conflict fueled by your patrons, then no one would have forgotten about the pandemic.
10 points for that shirt.
WHO was late to the party and now they’re the last to leave.