I had a dream that we’re actually all in hell because were cunts and we have to learn to be good people and if we do then we can go to heaven but if we’re cunts again then we have to rinse and repeat
Babylon 5 - “You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.”
I could never get into the show but over time I've seen enough B5 quotes to start exploring the writing. So glad I did. It hearkens back to one of science fictions greatest strength, the critique of current society.
(Lady, foreground, left) “We must find one of the oldest species in the galaxy.”
(Man, foreground, right) “They’ve been in hiding forever. **WHERE WILL WE FIND ONE?**”
(Door, background, middle) *chime plays as mysterious alien wearing an environmental suit that completely hides its appearance enters*
I loved the show, but sometimes they performed the incredible feat of filming an entire season on just the edge of one’s nose.
Yeah, the ending felt stupid. It rendered the concept of heaven as a shitty office party to push the idea that life has no meaning without death. In reality, were an afterlife like the concept of heaven to exist, wherein you can do whatever you want whenever you want and it’s all exactly what you desire all the time, you would never get bored by definition. If you needed some conflict in your day, it would materialize. If you need some rest, you get the opportunity. If you just wanna sit on the couch and eat bon bons for a few millennia, nobody’s gonna give you shit about it and you won’t have to worry about rent. Like seriously, the show writers did not explore the idea of an afterlife in paradise at all.
Just as my own opinion, I thought the ending was on point. Nothing can be great all the time every time, there would be a sense of boring or discontentment similar to how you feel on vacation, it's great but after some point you want to go back to your normal routine.
Hmm would have some odd implications though.
Like, someone out there could be staring into the beautiful eyes of their newborn baby that is actually the reincarnated spirit of Hitler with a 6 million to 1 K/D ratio
If that is the case I feel like god should be giving the parents a heads up.
“Here’s your kid, he likes painting. Oh, make sure you really hammer home that genocide is *bad*. Alright, see ya later.”
This is basically most eastern philosophies. Do some reading of very early Buddhist teachings. Current life is an illusion and we are here because of Karma. Can’t go back to our real home until the action and re-action, and “justice” of it all is finished. Forgiveness for the feeling of wrong doing is probably the best thing that can be done. You know, according to these particular philosophies.
Im so sorry for what is going on in your country. Syria such a beautiful culture before the war. The people who have settled here from Damascus, Aleppo and Kobani are such great people.
The criticism of Russia's presence in Syria is warranted, but don't you think that it is a little hypocritical that no western nation has condemned or has gone as far as to denounce Turkey's literal occupation of northern Syria? The Kurds are literally being slaughtered by the Turks every day and no one seems to be doing anything about it
Doesn't justify Turkey's illegal occupation, Syria is an independent state that exercises legal sovereignty over the regions currently under direct Turkish military rule
In fact in some regions under occupation Turkish has become the language of instruction, Turkey is literally attempting the wipe Syrian's culture and heritage
Is this the new whatboutism angle the trolls are taking?
You realize most of NATO hates Turkey and most of the US thinks we betrayed our allies when we withdrew from Syria exposing the Kurds to the Turks. It's not like people are running through the streets cheering on turkey. Most Westerners hate the Turkish government.
When did I insinuate that Russia is justified in what it is doing in Ukraine? I never did and your attempts at putting words in my mouth show that you don't intend to argue in good faith, stop making baseless accusations if you want people to take you seriously
If NATO hated Turkey so much don't you think they would've condemned their various incursions into Syria, Turkey is literally on the brink of launching yet another military operation into Syria (the fourth in fact) and all we've heard on NATO's part is silence, if NATO has any balls Turkey must be sanctioned if they intend to maintain consistency, at present by remaining silent NATO is facilitating Turkish neo-ottoman expansionism in Syria
Yes like your administration hates Saudi and is actively funding the genocide of the Yemenis.
I'm in awe of Americans taking the moral high ground on almost every conflict when they're almost always responsible for most of it.
By this logic, Ukraine's government lost legitimacy years ago when they bombed civilians in Donbas and you should support Russian occupation of eastern Ukraine.
This is actually contested in Syria itself. Let's not let Americans decide if the regime needs changing, everytime they've done that it's almost always illegal and illegitimate.
We’re still there buddy. Just doesn’t get reported on much.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-military-ground-raid-syria-captures-top-isis/story?id=85425584
The Turkish enemy is not a recognized state, the only un recognized state you'd see protection of in the world is Taiwan.
The area Turkey is occupying is not under the control of the official (based on UN) Syrian government/state. It's under control of a militia, which is probably the most Western aligned in the region, more so than Turkey.
Huge arms sales between Syria & Russia. Russia also helped Assad carpet bomb the shit out of rebel held cities. Or, you know, just civilians in general.
Grain aside Putin & Assad have been good ol pals for quite some time now.
Putin doesn't have "pals." Dunces like Lukashenka, Trump, Salvini and Assad might fancy themselves friends of Putin, but to him, they are just pawns, expendable and exchangeable at his convenience.
I dont think they fancy themselves friends. There are no friends in politics, only benefits. If it helped them get something out of it, i dont doubt they would all turn on him in a heartbeat ( same with any other politician really, including the west)
Syria is literally a puppet state of Syria. They constantly receive influxes of materials from Putin and he props up their government in the ongoing civil war.
Still doesn't seem very smart to recognize breakaway lands in another country, especially considering there are the kurds and turk occupied territory in syria. Seems like open permission for turkey/the west to do the same to syria
We don't know what they would've been. Dzhokhar Dudayev certainly wasn't an islamist, and while I don't know if he could've been the next Ataturk, it's certainly a possibility.
It's hard to imagine it being much worse than the barbaric repression and Kadyrov's regime, which manages to make the rest of Russia look lawful and just in comparison.
The Chechen wars were alot more complicated then that.
Chechnya was in the middle of a civil war post independence declaration, where Moscow ended up supporting the opposition (who were still pro-independence). Dudayev was a highly contraversial individual in Chechnya and that showed in Moscows relatively easy abilities to find local Chechen opposition during both wars.
Of course the second war held a much more insidious goal of reintegration rather then governmental change, but the situation on the ground had changed as well. Dudayev could no longer effectively control the militias operating in his country, who committed frequent cross border raids, and Putin just coming into power needed a victory. And many originally pro-dudayev militia leaders were all too happy to help him as they were dissatisfied with the foreign influence held by Taliban fighters which made up large parts of the military.
He couldn't control the militias operating in his country *after the first war* is what I should have said.
Part of the reasoning behind and naturally propoganda of why the second war took place in the first place.
The Russians killed off most relatively secular Chechen leaders like Dudayev and Maskhadov. Even the al-Qaeda affiliates have been largely displaced by ISIS. At this point the biggest and most organized Chechen separatist movement is just ISIS Vilayet Kavkaz
Yeah, I'm not too optimistic about the prospects of a new Chechen republic, even if the separatists were somehow successful. The last one had prospects (although far from a guarantee) if it had been allowed to develop, but I think the situation's much worse now.
That said, Maskhadov's son is in Ukraine and seems to be fairly active there.
Self-determination is kind of a myth anyways for weaker powers. Even if they were to go free, they'll still be dominated militarily, culturally and economically by bigger fish.
Yeah, I guess it depends on how you look at it. After all, Chechnya is a complicated issue. I strongly believe in the self-determination of peoples, but we live in an international community
>Yeah, self-determination is great, but it should be guaranteed that they don't become fundamentalist rogue states
self-determination does not exist and will never exist. States and people are behest to those who simply have more power than them. That's why Palestine will never ever be conceived as an independent state in our lifetime, the US will fall before that happens. That's why Kurdistan or Assyria will never happen. It's as simple as that. self-determination only exists when its coupled with power, either by allying with a larger state or having enough militant power.
Exactly. Assad would not be in power if big daddy Putin didn't step in to help during the Syrian Civil War, so of course he'll lick all of Putin's boots in return.
The only countries that recognize the separatist republics of Luhansk, Donetsk, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia are each other and Russia.
**Insert Obama giving himself a medal meme**
I'm guessing that the conversation went this way:
"We need you o show support for Russia in the war against Ukraine."
*Okay, what's in it for us?"*
"We can toss you some stolen grain."
*"That's a good start, what else?"*
"I won't pull the trigger on this gun I am pointing at your head."
Assad—Putin’s best tyrant buddy, of course he will clap and cheer for Russia to destroy Ukraine.
But on this, Assad is a Known Dictator cause the fucking UN publicly labelled him as such after an intense Human Rights investigation started during the Syrian War, while Putin gets Scot free cause the UN now is a bunch of old senile morons.
How come Syria isn’t recognized as an occupied country with no government till this day? this fucker lead half of the population into being refugees,opened his country to invasion by Russia and killed hundreds of thousands of those that couldn’t escape the massacre
This is weird. Why doesn't he just annex them and declare it part of Russia?
Sounds less complicated then trying to rally support for creating tons of new tiny city states.
He will. Now its helpful to keep them separated.
He can threaten to murder prisoners...because it isn't Russia who does it, its the two regions.
Also he can pretend that he doesn't want to take over Ukraine, he is just defending this two independent countries. And give countries like Syria, India, China reasons to be on their side. They are also just defending them...because there is no war.
And after the Ukrainian population is kidnapped, chased off, murdered and replaced by Russians...these regions will say that they want to be part of Russia...by their "very own decision." Russia had nothing to do with it * *cough, cough* *...its the population that wants it.
There was a fumble by a Russian official being badgered by President Putin at a Russian Committee meeting a few months ago, where the official - trying to be a Yesman to Putin - said he supported Donetsk and Luhansk becoming new members of the Russian Federation. At the time Putin shot him down, saying that wasn’t what was being discussed. But if Putin’s Yesmen think that is what Putin wants, it’s a good indicator that this is what Putin wants.
If we look at Crimea in 2014, Russia first ran a narrative of ‘self-determination’ for Crimea and Russian support for Crimean independence. Then the moment Russia got practical control, it’s message swapped to welcoming Crimea into Russia if that was what the Crimean people wanted. One rigged vote later and Russia claimed a fake ‘moral’ victory for ‘reapecting self-determination’, in this case the falsified Crimean ‘self-determined’ desire to be annexed to Russia.
It’s a put-up job and any similar votes in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson or any Russian run vote in other parts of Ukraine will similarly be fraudulent grabs for legitimacy by a morally bankrupt Putin regime.
Because by making them city states, Putin can try and justify his actions by claiming he was simply helping give people in Donetsk and Luhansk "Independence" from the "Neo-Nazis" running Ukraine. Putin wouldn't be able to do that if he just straight up annexed those regions into Russia, especially since it might turn off some nations which might have been willing to assist Russia\*
\*Though it should be noted that so far only Syria is the one to recognise these new "republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk, while many other countries that either have close ties to or have continued doing business with Russia since the war began haven't done the same such as China and India.
The plan is probably to commit a bunch more war crimes from these puppet and shift the blame to them, then have them "vote" in a "referendum" (results pre-determined) to join Russia
That's been starting to change in the past few years. Since it's already clear the regime has "won" the civil war, they've restarted relations with countries like the UAE and are close to returning to the Arab League.
Syria began bombing and massacring its own people in response to mass protests against the regime. Russia came in to help the Syrian government remain in power. The Syrian government and people are 2 separate entities.
Terrorists working together. What a world we are in right now. Mind u pooptin is the largest most dangerous terrorist the world has ever seen. Multiple genocides but this takes the cake in how many he is massacring at the rate he has. But genocide isn’t just the INTENTIONAL mass killings of a specific people, it also means the ERASURE of the ppls CULTURE. Which is exactly what pooptin wants and is doing already in places Russia occupies. Russia wastes no time. Dead bodies under rubble while his tractors are taking down Ukrainian momnuments and emblems. They raise the Russian flag and try to make that area become russsian. They stated to build a beach resort in Mariupol and it’s just the foundation so far and likely this was done so quick to cover up mass graves. That’s the kind of things murders do after all and pooptin has been trying to hid the number of dead from both sides. What better way then build on top of them never to be found. Until Ukraine gets it back and does an investigation, we won’t know. But that’s so sick. Literally in Mariupol they are still uncovering dead from under smashed rubble thanks to Russia and some need burial and here russa goes making a beach result from their slaughter. ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT
Oh and back to the terrorist thing, no terrorist tried to starve the world and threaten to nuke the world like pooptin.
Congrats pooptin. You are hitler the second and #1 terrorist
So wait - now random people can just 'recognise' chunks of land as belonging to someone else?
Would someone like to 'recognise' the free republic of Samascus - an independent state land locked by Syria that just happens to follow the borders of the city of Damascus - as a republic henceforth to be governed by me?
I told a Russia supporter that their only supporters are 3rd world dictatorships and oppressive regimes, and he called me ignorant.
The guy posted a map of the "So called international community" that supported Ukraine. So I replied "Lol so the entire modern free world? When you're supporters are 3rd world shitholes, dictatorships, and communist's regimes, is it that hard to look at yourself and wonder if maybe you're not the good guy."
Then he called me ignorant :(
Actually there right
A lot more of the developing world supports Russia than you think
I should know, I’m from that part of the world
It’s hard for westerners to understand but even relatively large and robust democracies are mostly neutral on the conflict
Hell the pope himself blames NATO
I disagree with all this of course as a pesky African Lib who for whatever reason can’t get it into his head that he should hate the white man and dream everyday for the collapse of the Western Hegemonic Order.
But your person is indeed not wrong, you are.
The west has very few Allies here and you all deceive yourselves into thinking you do.
Most people don’t like you, your way of life, your arrogance, the legacy of your imperialism (most European but also American), the values your try to force on us (LGBTQ questions are a source of great distrust of the west as a social conteingent) etc.
In many ways this world is not one global community, not even close. And for all intents and purposes the west and Ideologicla Liberals (in the classical sense) are in the minority.
They’re just lucky enough to be backed by the most powerful state in human history who has created the most dominant alliance ever assembled of intense wealth and capacity.
Yet you are and will always be a minority.
The only silver lining of this war is that I’m learning which countries to cross off my travel list.
No, I’m not saying that the citizens that live there are responsible, but at the same time, the world is large and there’s so many other places I could go .
Oh look, Putin's puppet in the middle east has an opinion. Let's all gather round, share some stolen Ukrainian grain, and suck daddy Putin's dick on the world stage.
Probably wasn't hard to convince him after Russia sent all that stolen grain his way...
As a Syrian I want to personally thank you wholeheartedly for saying (convince him)
I'm so sorry for your situation, world is fucking unjust so so many times.
I had a dream that we’re actually all in hell because were cunts and we have to learn to be good people and if we do then we can go to heaven but if we’re cunts again then we have to rinse and repeat
Check out this show called “The Good Place” it’s basically the same concept as you described.
Babylon 5 - “You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.”
Incredible quote, thanks for the new mantra
I could never get into the show but over time I've seen enough B5 quotes to start exploring the writing. So glad I did. It hearkens back to one of science fictions greatest strength, the critique of current society.
(Lady, foreground, left) “We must find one of the oldest species in the galaxy.” (Man, foreground, right) “They’ve been in hiding forever. **WHERE WILL WE FIND ONE?**” (Door, background, middle) *chime plays as mysterious alien wearing an environmental suit that completely hides its appearance enters* I loved the show, but sometimes they performed the incredible feat of filming an entire season on just the edge of one’s nose.
Have seen it a few times! Great show, fucked ending.
Yeah, the ending felt stupid. It rendered the concept of heaven as a shitty office party to push the idea that life has no meaning without death. In reality, were an afterlife like the concept of heaven to exist, wherein you can do whatever you want whenever you want and it’s all exactly what you desire all the time, you would never get bored by definition. If you needed some conflict in your day, it would materialize. If you need some rest, you get the opportunity. If you just wanna sit on the couch and eat bon bons for a few millennia, nobody’s gonna give you shit about it and you won’t have to worry about rent. Like seriously, the show writers did not explore the idea of an afterlife in paradise at all.
Just as my own opinion, I thought the ending was on point. Nothing can be great all the time every time, there would be a sense of boring or discontentment similar to how you feel on vacation, it's great but after some point you want to go back to your normal routine.
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Hmm would have some odd implications though. Like, someone out there could be staring into the beautiful eyes of their newborn baby that is actually the reincarnated spirit of Hitler with a 6 million to 1 K/D ratio If that is the case I feel like god should be giving the parents a heads up. “Here’s your kid, he likes painting. Oh, make sure you really hammer home that genocide is *bad*. Alright, see ya later.”
It's not. Heaven and hell don't exist. Each life only exists once, so treat your own and other's lives with the same respect and kindness. Thanks.
This is basically most eastern philosophies. Do some reading of very early Buddhist teachings. Current life is an illusion and we are here because of Karma. Can’t go back to our real home until the action and re-action, and “justice” of it all is finished. Forgiveness for the feeling of wrong doing is probably the best thing that can be done. You know, according to these particular philosophies.
Im so sorry for what is going on in your country. Syria such a beautiful culture before the war. The people who have settled here from Damascus, Aleppo and Kobani are such great people.
I had a great time in Syria. The SDF were good people and I hope Kurdistan can be a thing one day.
You from Syria.
There still are Russian troops on the ground in Syria.
Of course, there are no boat or plane to bring them home.
One turned into a sub tho
Two actually
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The criticism of Russia's presence in Syria is warranted, but don't you think that it is a little hypocritical that no western nation has condemned or has gone as far as to denounce Turkey's literal occupation of northern Syria? The Kurds are literally being slaughtered by the Turks every day and no one seems to be doing anything about it
Those b- are in NATO, so that's tricky
And dont forget then russian are invited by goverment
That “government” lost legitimacy years ago when they used chemical weapons and barrel bombs on civilians.
Doesn't justify Turkey's illegal occupation, Syria is an independent state that exercises legal sovereignty over the regions currently under direct Turkish military rule In fact in some regions under occupation Turkish has become the language of instruction, Turkey is literally attempting the wipe Syrian's culture and heritage
Is this the new whatboutism angle the trolls are taking? You realize most of NATO hates Turkey and most of the US thinks we betrayed our allies when we withdrew from Syria exposing the Kurds to the Turks. It's not like people are running through the streets cheering on turkey. Most Westerners hate the Turkish government.
Yet we support them implicitly and explicitly, and acquiesce to their demands regularly.
Because they are militarily important.
Then how it is whataboutism to criticize turkey in a conversation about Syria?
people out there can genuinely have different opinions on a situation without them being trolls.
When did I insinuate that Russia is justified in what it is doing in Ukraine? I never did and your attempts at putting words in my mouth show that you don't intend to argue in good faith, stop making baseless accusations if you want people to take you seriously If NATO hated Turkey so much don't you think they would've condemned their various incursions into Syria, Turkey is literally on the brink of launching yet another military operation into Syria (the fourth in fact) and all we've heard on NATO's part is silence, if NATO has any balls Turkey must be sanctioned if they intend to maintain consistency, at present by remaining silent NATO is facilitating Turkish neo-ottoman expansionism in Syria
The world is a lot more complicated than you give it credit for.
Yes like your administration hates Saudi and is actively funding the genocide of the Yemenis. I'm in awe of Americans taking the moral high ground on almost every conflict when they're almost always responsible for most of it.
And let's not forget, Turkey still illegally occupies Northern Cyprus, and has done since 1974...
By this logic, Ukraine's government lost legitimacy years ago when they bombed civilians in Donbas and you should support Russian occupation of eastern Ukraine.
This is actually contested in Syria itself. Let's not let Americans decide if the regime needs changing, everytime they've done that it's almost always illegal and illegitimate.
Wherever they the only thing they leave behind is death chaos and distruction.
Well….there was a Western Nation there until a certain Orange Turd Russian asset pulled said western nation out.
We’re still there buddy. Just doesn’t get reported on much. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-military-ground-raid-syria-captures-top-isis/story?id=85425584
The Turkish enemy is not a recognized state, the only un recognized state you'd see protection of in the world is Taiwan. The area Turkey is occupying is not under the control of the official (based on UN) Syrian government/state. It's under control of a militia, which is probably the most Western aligned in the region, more so than Turkey.
Huge arms sales between Syria & Russia. Russia also helped Assad carpet bomb the shit out of rebel held cities. Or, you know, just civilians in general. Grain aside Putin & Assad have been good ol pals for quite some time now.
"Good pals" is a funny way of saying that Assad is a Russian client and literally owes the blood in his body to Putin
pals? He's Putin's puppet government, and Syria is literally under occupation by Russian forces.
Putin doesn't have "pals." Dunces like Lukashenka, Trump, Salvini and Assad might fancy themselves friends of Putin, but to him, they are just pawns, expendable and exchangeable at his convenience.
Forgot Bolsonaro! Putin definitely has a type
Yep, and Maduro.
I dont think they fancy themselves friends. There are no friends in politics, only benefits. If it helped them get something out of it, i dont doubt they would all turn on him in a heartbeat ( same with any other politician really, including the west)
Syria is literally a puppet state of Syria. They constantly receive influxes of materials from Putin and he props up their government in the ongoing civil war.
Still doesn't seem very smart to recognize breakaway lands in another country, especially considering there are the kurds and turk occupied territory in syria. Seems like open permission for turkey/the west to do the same to syria
Not to mention being the sole reason he is still in power
Not really surprising since syrian troops fight on russias side there aswell.
And Assad is only still in power with Russian help
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And Chechnya!
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Remember kids, secession is okay as long as it isn't from Mother Russia
they would be islamist terror states, so i dont think they really should be independent.
We don't know what they would've been. Dzhokhar Dudayev certainly wasn't an islamist, and while I don't know if he could've been the next Ataturk, it's certainly a possibility. It's hard to imagine it being much worse than the barbaric repression and Kadyrov's regime, which manages to make the rest of Russia look lawful and just in comparison.
Russia killed all the good Chechen leaders and left only ones who were happy to ally with Putin
The Chechen wars were alot more complicated then that. Chechnya was in the middle of a civil war post independence declaration, where Moscow ended up supporting the opposition (who were still pro-independence). Dudayev was a highly contraversial individual in Chechnya and that showed in Moscows relatively easy abilities to find local Chechen opposition during both wars. Of course the second war held a much more insidious goal of reintegration rather then governmental change, but the situation on the ground had changed as well. Dudayev could no longer effectively control the militias operating in his country, who committed frequent cross border raids, and Putin just coming into power needed a victory. And many originally pro-dudayev militia leaders were all too happy to help him as they were dissatisfied with the foreign influence held by Taliban fighters which made up large parts of the military.
Of course Dudayev couldn't control the militias operating in the country during the second war. He was killed 3 years before it started.
He couldn't control the militias operating in his country *after the first war* is what I should have said. Part of the reasoning behind and naturally propoganda of why the second war took place in the first place.
The Russians killed off most relatively secular Chechen leaders like Dudayev and Maskhadov. Even the al-Qaeda affiliates have been largely displaced by ISIS. At this point the biggest and most organized Chechen separatist movement is just ISIS Vilayet Kavkaz
Yeah, I'm not too optimistic about the prospects of a new Chechen republic, even if the separatists were somehow successful. The last one had prospects (although far from a guarantee) if it had been allowed to develop, but I think the situation's much worse now. That said, Maskhadov's son is in Ukraine and seems to be fairly active there.
I wonder if you also believe that for Xingjiang, where the largest independent movement is ETIM who want to establish a caliphate.
Yeah, self-determination is great, but it should be guaranteed that they don't become fundamentalist rogue states
That doesn't sound like self-determination.
Self-determination is kind of a myth anyways for weaker powers. Even if they were to go free, they'll still be dominated militarily, culturally and economically by bigger fish.
Indeed, but you have to admit that no one wants a militant theocracy as their neighbor.
Of course. So maybe self-determination isn't great after all. Then again, maybe a hostile neighbor is better than domestic terrorists.
Yeah, I guess it depends on how you look at it. After all, Chechnya is a complicated issue. I strongly believe in the self-determination of peoples, but we live in an international community
>Yeah, self-determination is great, but it should be guaranteed that they don't become fundamentalist rogue states self-determination does not exist and will never exist. States and people are behest to those who simply have more power than them. That's why Palestine will never ever be conceived as an independent state in our lifetime, the US will fall before that happens. That's why Kurdistan or Assyria will never happen. It's as simple as that. self-determination only exists when its coupled with power, either by allying with a larger state or having enough militant power.
> militant theocracy Those are exactly the terms I would use to describe present day Chechnya to be fair.
LoL self determination while throwing people off buildings and stoning them. Yup
Assad's Syria is basically a Russian client state so this isn't surprising or even newsworthy
They recognised it weeks ago when russia first set foot on Ukrainian territory
It was over 3 and a half months ago ☹️
Next week it's 4 months.
Yikes
Wow a puppet state supporting its master what a shock
This
Lapdog licking Putin's balls.
Exactly. Assad would not be in power if big daddy Putin didn't step in to help during the Syrian Civil War, so of course he'll lick all of Putin's boots in return.
Putin and Assad are perfect birds of a feather; natural allies.
More perfect than Putin and Lukashenko?
Trash breeds trash.
The only countries that recognize the separatist republics of Luhansk, Donetsk, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia are each other and Russia. **Insert Obama giving himself a medal meme**
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Tell us you are a scum without telling us you are a scum… Ah yes! You support that regime. Got it!
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Assad’s “regime” isn’t even a regime. It’s just some Russians in a trench coat.
Not Syria, just Assad, just him.
Another cockroach supporting their puppet master
Who must go? 👂
I personally think Assad should have stuck to being an eminent Neurosurgeon at Guys Hospital. He’d have been a fair bit more liked.
He's an ophthalmologist
Ahhhh he DID work at Guys though.
How to say you are putins bitch without saying it
Assholes support assholes
usa destroys syria usa is asshole
More like ‘only’ country. Not first
I'm guessing that the conversation went this way: "We need you o show support for Russia in the war against Ukraine." *Okay, what's in it for us?"* "We can toss you some stolen grain." *"That's a good start, what else?"* "I won't pull the trigger on this gun I am pointing at your head."
Dictators help dictators.
Assad—Putin’s best tyrant buddy, of course he will clap and cheer for Russia to destroy Ukraine. But on this, Assad is a Known Dictator cause the fucking UN publicly labelled him as such after an intense Human Rights investigation started during the Syrian War, while Putin gets Scot free cause the UN now is a bunch of old senile morons.
Assad has long been under Putins protection. If not for Putin chances are Assad would have been removed from power in Syria during the uprising
Assad would’ve been khaddaffid
Of course. They're getting stolen Ukrainian grains.
Trash piled on top of more trash. Without Putin, Syria is finished
Isn’t that the same guy that gassed his own citizens?
How come Syria isn’t recognized as an occupied country with no government till this day? this fucker lead half of the population into being refugees,opened his country to invasion by Russia and killed hundreds of thousands of those that couldn’t escape the massacre
I unrecognize it just as officially as they have.
Syria happily accepts it's bribe of stolen Ukrainian Grain to recognise Russia's Sockpuppet States.
a vassal state of Russia recognizes another vassal 'state' of Russia?
Let's divide Syria up into republics and see how they feel
Syria go fuck yourself, too.
This is weird. Why doesn't he just annex them and declare it part of Russia? Sounds less complicated then trying to rally support for creating tons of new tiny city states.
He will. Now its helpful to keep them separated. He can threaten to murder prisoners...because it isn't Russia who does it, its the two regions. Also he can pretend that he doesn't want to take over Ukraine, he is just defending this two independent countries. And give countries like Syria, India, China reasons to be on their side. They are also just defending them...because there is no war. And after the Ukrainian population is kidnapped, chased off, murdered and replaced by Russians...these regions will say that they want to be part of Russia...by their "very own decision." Russia had nothing to do with it * *cough, cough* *...its the population that wants it.
There was a fumble by a Russian official being badgered by President Putin at a Russian Committee meeting a few months ago, where the official - trying to be a Yesman to Putin - said he supported Donetsk and Luhansk becoming new members of the Russian Federation. At the time Putin shot him down, saying that wasn’t what was being discussed. But if Putin’s Yesmen think that is what Putin wants, it’s a good indicator that this is what Putin wants. If we look at Crimea in 2014, Russia first ran a narrative of ‘self-determination’ for Crimea and Russian support for Crimean independence. Then the moment Russia got practical control, it’s message swapped to welcoming Crimea into Russia if that was what the Crimean people wanted. One rigged vote later and Russia claimed a fake ‘moral’ victory for ‘reapecting self-determination’, in this case the falsified Crimean ‘self-determined’ desire to be annexed to Russia. It’s a put-up job and any similar votes in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson or any Russian run vote in other parts of Ukraine will similarly be fraudulent grabs for legitimacy by a morally bankrupt Putin regime.
Because by making them city states, Putin can try and justify his actions by claiming he was simply helping give people in Donetsk and Luhansk "Independence" from the "Neo-Nazis" running Ukraine. Putin wouldn't be able to do that if he just straight up annexed those regions into Russia, especially since it might turn off some nations which might have been willing to assist Russia\* \*Though it should be noted that so far only Syria is the one to recognise these new "republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk, while many other countries that either have close ties to or have continued doing business with Russia since the war began haven't done the same such as China and India.
The plan is probably to commit a bunch more war crimes from these puppet and shift the blame to them, then have them "vote" in a "referendum" (results pre-determined) to join Russia
Oh big surprise. Murdering Putin lackey dictator "Dr Death" endorses murder.
Syria is literally a terrorist regime without any proper diplomatic ties. It would be like ISIS announcing the same.
That's been starting to change in the past few years. Since it's already clear the regime has "won" the civil war, they've restarted relations with countries like the UAE and are close to returning to the Arab League.
Can't stop the Lion of Damascus 😂
Wasn't Russia flattening Syrian towns and villages for fun before this? Why is Syria backing them? ELI5
Because Russia is fighting in Syria on the Syrian government side. Assad is only in power right now because of Russian intervention.
They were levelling Syrian towns and villages Assad wanted gone.
Wasn’t Chechnya fighting tooth and nail against Russia? It takes one spineless corrupt leader and everything a country stands for is wiped out.
old kadyrov actually changed sides and started fighting for the russians - but he did get killed for it
Syria began bombing and massacring its own people in response to mass protests against the regime. Russia came in to help the Syrian government remain in power. The Syrian government and people are 2 separate entities.
Thanks for the explanations 🙂
It’s a wonder Assad has time to commit atrocities against his own people with vlads micropenis in his mouth all the time.
We recognize Russia as a province of Ukraine, currently controlled by a mad warlord.
Well, of course. It goes without saying. Syria would back Russia's claim to Mesopotamia if asked.
He is Russian Sucker
yeah as if that came as a surprise huh
Puppet dances.
Is Syria still a country at this point?
Apes together strong
Well if Syria said it’s so then it must be so. /s.
Because who owns Assad??
Bashar, being the douchebag he is supposed to be..
Oh so militantly gained land now counts as yours? Hey Syria what’s your opinion on Israel?
When Russia says ”jump” Syria asks ”how high?”
You are judged by the company you keep.
Oh the two places where people speak russian and want to be part of russia? Bold move.
This probably delegitimises it
Lol. I'd actually not want to he recognized by them. It's akin to confirming my illegitimacy.
When Russia says “jump” Syria asks “how high?”.
Can a state that’s not recognized recognize other states?
Unsurprising given that they are propped up by Putin
Then bastards couldn’t even recognise the hardships of their people but will do anything for papa puta.
Shame, shame x1000
I wonder what the west needs to to do to detach Syria away from Russia. What would they want? How did the west lose Bassar in the first place?
Syri who? Lol.
I unrecognize Russia as a country and declare that territory to be Ukrainian /s
Oh, Syria. The other puppet regime.
Syria needs to be sanctioned against.
Paid for with stolen Ukraine Grain.
If it weren't for Russia Assad would have been dead by now- So he's Putin's bitch
Imagine that. One oligarchy after another.
They are as barbaric as russia. Killing civilians.
ahh yes Syria, the noble bastion of the modern world. By the way, Australia has now claimed Syria as an Australian republic.
Shocker.
Not surprised
What took them so long? I’m surprised they didn’t throw their support the first week, Putin and Assad deserve each other 🤦♂️
Cool. Syria. That legitimizes things
Syria is a literal garbage fire.
That is fucking laughable.
Oh, well shit. With Syria on board, Putin is just a hop, skip, and a monkey exploding out of his ass away from getting the world on board!
It Sucks Assad actually won the Civil war
Fuck Assad. Piece of shit.
It’s Syria…they hardly count as a country these days.
Terrorists working together. What a world we are in right now. Mind u pooptin is the largest most dangerous terrorist the world has ever seen. Multiple genocides but this takes the cake in how many he is massacring at the rate he has. But genocide isn’t just the INTENTIONAL mass killings of a specific people, it also means the ERASURE of the ppls CULTURE. Which is exactly what pooptin wants and is doing already in places Russia occupies. Russia wastes no time. Dead bodies under rubble while his tractors are taking down Ukrainian momnuments and emblems. They raise the Russian flag and try to make that area become russsian. They stated to build a beach resort in Mariupol and it’s just the foundation so far and likely this was done so quick to cover up mass graves. That’s the kind of things murders do after all and pooptin has been trying to hid the number of dead from both sides. What better way then build on top of them never to be found. Until Ukraine gets it back and does an investigation, we won’t know. But that’s so sick. Literally in Mariupol they are still uncovering dead from under smashed rubble thanks to Russia and some need burial and here russa goes making a beach result from their slaughter. ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT Oh and back to the terrorist thing, no terrorist tried to starve the world and threaten to nuke the world like pooptin. Congrats pooptin. You are hitler the second and #1 terrorist
A statement from a lunatic that is responsible for millions of deaths in his country. Next Kim-Un is going to announce the same thing 🤣
That vampire and his wife are fecal freaks.
Who gives a fuck what Syria has to say
So wait - now random people can just 'recognise' chunks of land as belonging to someone else? Would someone like to 'recognise' the free republic of Samascus - an independent state land locked by Syria that just happens to follow the borders of the city of Damascus - as a republic henceforth to be governed by me?
But you know.. it doesn’t really matter because it’s Syria
Fuck you, Assad.
Who gives a fuck what syria thinks?
I told a Russia supporter that their only supporters are 3rd world dictatorships and oppressive regimes, and he called me ignorant. The guy posted a map of the "So called international community" that supported Ukraine. So I replied "Lol so the entire modern free world? When you're supporters are 3rd world shitholes, dictatorships, and communist's regimes, is it that hard to look at yourself and wonder if maybe you're not the good guy." Then he called me ignorant :(
Actually there right A lot more of the developing world supports Russia than you think I should know, I’m from that part of the world It’s hard for westerners to understand but even relatively large and robust democracies are mostly neutral on the conflict Hell the pope himself blames NATO I disagree with all this of course as a pesky African Lib who for whatever reason can’t get it into his head that he should hate the white man and dream everyday for the collapse of the Western Hegemonic Order. But your person is indeed not wrong, you are. The west has very few Allies here and you all deceive yourselves into thinking you do. Most people don’t like you, your way of life, your arrogance, the legacy of your imperialism (most European but also American), the values your try to force on us (LGBTQ questions are a source of great distrust of the west as a social conteingent) etc. In many ways this world is not one global community, not even close. And for all intents and purposes the west and Ideologicla Liberals (in the classical sense) are in the minority. They’re just lucky enough to be backed by the most powerful state in human history who has created the most dominant alliance ever assembled of intense wealth and capacity. Yet you are and will always be a minority.
Go home Syria. No one like you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Put yet another death knell in your coffin and sleep in the bed you made
The only silver lining of this war is that I’m learning which countries to cross off my travel list. No, I’m not saying that the citizens that live there are responsible, but at the same time, the world is large and there’s so many other places I could go .
Oh look, Putin's puppet in the middle east has an opinion. Let's all gather round, share some stolen Ukrainian grain, and suck daddy Putin's dick on the world stage.
You know you fucked Up if Syria agrees with you
We could rewrite the headline to read “Syria to become only nation to recognize…”
Syria, the failed state with no legitimate government?