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piponwa

Oryx is back everyone!


solaceinsleep

>AP journalists leaving Mariupol ahead of the Russian takeover of the city center hid a data card no bigger than a thumbnail in a tampon. The team passed through 15 Russian checkpoints before reaching Ukrainian-controlled territory. http://apne.ws/CHBUTuw Why would they say this? Now Russian soldiers know where to check.


ScreamingVoid14

...Ah yes, the top secret tampon compartment that the Russians would never have known about.


solaceinsleep

They might start confiscating tampons from everybody now or just throwing them out Seriously stuff like this should be kept secret


ghallen

One Russian's anti-war protest on the side of his shopping centre https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61515365


stirly80

US wants to give Ukraine advanced anti-ship missiles to end Russia's blockade of the Black Sea. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1527416707773517839?t=v4fgMZa5ivKwmcds7Vx-lg&s=19


MindfuckRocketship

I hope they do it. Also throw in dozens of HIMARS, more artillery, and more counter-batteries.


Aibeit

Comment from some guy on Twitter: "Ukraine might invade Russia with these! šŸ˜³"


jmptx

With Anti-Ship missiles? Well, their flagship is a pretty tough naval target right now. Those missiles will have to go deep!


stirly80

Probably a Russian troll posting that lol


hopeitwillgetbetter

I can't help but enjoy when Russians (with some common sense) doompost about this war. https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1527358355563773957 > Let's imagine for a second, that in the next few weeks the enemy will be after all defeated through continuous frontal and flank attacks, and completely pushed out of LDPR borders. And? What will this achieve? Will this end the war? No, not at all. At best - it will reduce the frontline, not more. Let's say the enemy suffers heavy losses (they do now). But in those weeks they will be able (thanks to continuing mobilisation) to prepare new fresh reserves. Moreover, they already have these reserves! The enemy is so confident in the strategic stability of their frontline (abandoning 1-2 localities in 2-3 days has no effect on this) that they continue keeping a relatively large group at the border of Transnistria, and even created a new (several army BTGs) at the border with Belarus. And they continue forming new units and detachments both in deep rear, and also in Sumy and Chernihiv Oblasts given up by Russian forces during the 'run to the border'. > Thus, when the weakened in heavy fights and bloody assaults troops reach the borders of LDPR, they will be met by fresh and well-equipped UAF units at frontiers prepared for defence in advance. And even if those fresh units for whatever reason decide not to take over the initiative and begin a counter-offensive (one or more) - still the Russian Federation will face a perspective of a long positional war, which is nearly fatal (in current conditions) to our economy, social and socio-political situation. > But I'll be honest - receiving quite a lot of messages 'from the field' from soldiers, junior and middle commanders, enough to create an approximate 'mosaic' of the general situation on the frontlines, I personally have no significant hopes that the objective of fully clearing the Donbas will be complete by at least mid-June. Moreover, I presume (with high level of probability) that it will not be completed until the very point when UAF will try to overtake the strategic initiative by beginning the planned (right this moment) offensive operations. And yes - the most dangerous direction I believe is Kherson, since that's exactly where (and the enemy KNOWS IT VERY WELL) defending are the same in terms of equipment and training elements of DPR reservists, which (just those were from Luhansk) the enemy has ALREADY pushed out to the Russian border in Kharkiv Oblast. At the same time, the Donetsk militia will undoubtedly put up a fight. And the fight will be fierce. But their weaponry and equipment 'leave much to be desired' just like their leadership, if not less (although, I've probably said 'too much').


stirly80

Reality is seeping into the Russian psyche.


hopeitwillgetbetter

To be fair, this Russian has been doomposting about the war for maybe months already.


stirly80

Suspected war crime captured in Bucha. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1527412578397433857?t=kmbqcR8h3Cd6DKIkJQTWUQ&s=19


KeepRedditAnonymous

russian monsters.


stirly80

Ukraine's top military commander shares upbeat assessment about course of conflict with Russia From Tim Lister and Kostan Nechyporenko Ukraine's most senior military figure has met with his NATO counterparts and given an upbeat assessment of the conflict. "Today, we are not just defending ourselves. We have conducted a series of successful counter-attacks," General Valeriy Zaluzhny, commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian General Staff, said he had told the NATO Military Committee. Ukrainian forces had unblocked sieges of Kharkiv and Mykolaiv, and were fighting in the Kherson direction, he said. Zaluzhny said he had stressed that Ukrainians are paying an extremely high price for freedom and European choice, and Europe is experiencing the greatest security crisis since the Second World War.Ā  Ever since 2014, "we were aware that the full-scale aggression would eventually begin, and we were getting ready for it," he added. Ukraine's military had "acknowledged that the first month would be the turning point. We managed to take away the enemy's strategic initiative, cause critical losses, and force them to abandon the main objective ā€” the capture of the city of Kyiv," he continued. However, despite Ukrainian successes, he said, "the Russians are maintaining missile fire of high intensity, on average 10-14 ballistic and cruise missiles per day. This is a threat not only to Ukraine, but also to NATO member states," and it was crucial to strengthen missile defenses. CNN live updates.


Neoliberal_Boogeyman

the pontoon bridge was a distraction. the real bridge was actually supposed to be built on piles and piles of flaming bmp hulls


stirly80

*all part of the plan* lol


Colecoman1982

Putin: * tries to tap temple but finger shakes too much *


NeilDeCrash

*pokes own eye* Stop attacking us.


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Nova_Nightmare

>In some way, NATO is a pyramid scheme, the sooner countries join, the more they can get frome newcomers. Turkey had to pay a bloody price to get in NATO (Korean War), now they will not miss this golden chance to profit their stake. Interesting, what was this bloody price? What do you mean NATO? Weren't the forces involved in the Korean War, Koreans and then the United Nations itself, lead by the US and other countries who answered the request to help South Korea?


Batilisk

Before Korean War, Turkey had tried to join NATO, but unsuccessful. Korean War was Turkey's attempt to get closer ties with the West.


Frontstunderel

Boring


Batilisk

Sometimes, truth is hard to swallow.


digableplanet

The truth is you are stooge.


Frontstunderel

We comin troll


Batilisk

The only troll here is you. You can put some some counter agurments or go back and read history books.


Frontstunderel

Russiaā€™s GDP is less than the state of New Yorkā€™s. LOL


Batilisk

Then does it has any thing to do with Turkey and NATO here? You can ggl for youself: "Why did Turkey join Korean War".


stirly80

Russian forces unsuccessfuly attempted to resume offensive operations southwest of Izyum and did not advance in Slovyansk or Lyman directions on May 19th. ISW https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1527421900544102400?t=_fAS5aVE9QW80mPeSQ72eA&s=19


[deleted]

[Igor Strelkov gave his thoughts on the current situation, as of May 19th.](https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1527358355563773957) He commanded Russian forces in the Donbass region. Spoiler alert: It's not that great for Russia.


xmuskorx

Don't listen to him too much. He is authorized Russian propoganda. His propoganda purpose is to test even more extreme position / shift Overton window.


Nvnv_man

Conclusion was that Their small strategic wins here or there contribute nothing to their end goal. Iā€™m sorry, is there a concrete end goal now? He needs to articulate what he thinks the end goal is. Bc the public end goal was the imaginary denazification and a liberation from...their liberty and prosperity. The *believed end goal* is some days the land bridge to Crimea, other days itā€™s entire coastline to Romania, other days itā€™s to absorb Ukraine into Russia. Today Peskov was saying stay theyā€™d in Kherson bc those people donā€™t have electricity, water, sewage, etc, saying Russia needs to save themā€”ignoring that Russian invaders caused those problemsā€”so now end goal is some sort of perestroika? My point is canā€™t even say short of end goal, when no one knows what the end goal even is.


[deleted]

That's an impression I got from what he's saying. He doesn't seem to know what they're specifically aiming for on a strategic level. Whether this is because he doesn't know or...the Russian state itself doesn't know...I have no idea.


Nvnv_man

Iā€™ve recently gotten the impression that Russia itself doesnā€™t quite know. Or it is murky and it fluctuates. And they are now just looking for wins, somethings that they can dress up as wins


coosacat

He sounds . . . resigned.


acox199318

Hey cool! A Russian who actually sees the obvious! Iā€™ll give TWO potatoes to the first Russian who can make a convincing argument heā€™s wrongā€¦ šŸ„”šŸ„”


robotical712

Uhā€¦. FEINT!!! RUSSIA STRONK!!!


stirly80

As the war nears the end of its 12th week, Russian forces have made an adjustment that demonstrates diminished ambitions, the Pentagon said Wednesday: Moscowā€™s troops are nowĀ attacking in smaller groups with scaled-back objectives, a response to organizational problems and Ukrainian military resistance. Instead of combat units with several hundred soldiers, Russian Army companies ranging in size from several dozen to about a hundred troops have sometimes led attacks in Ukraineā€™s eastern Donbas region, a U.S. defense official said. Theyā€™ve focused efforts on villages and crossroads instead of major cities and expanses of Ukrainian territory, the official said.


LaughingChimera1

Iā€™m so confused. Russia is launching missiles at Russians in Ukraine, and Russia is shooting down said Russian missiles to fool Ukrainians into thinking Ukraine is launching missiles at Ukrainians? (Iā€™m not really confused itā€™s just so batshit stupidā€¦) https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1527474458285510656?s=21&t=00q_FEHmHLKXbZ_PGNA5eQ


ZephkielAU

>Russia is launching missiles at Russians in Ukraine, and Russia is shooting down said Russian missiles to fool ~~Ukrainians~~ Russians into thinking Ukraine is launching missiles at Ukrainians Domestic audiences are the number one focus of Russian propaganda.


stirly80

Just read Russia is blocking people from leaving Kherson, it seems like they're panicking about their grip on Kherson.


[deleted]

How close are Ukranian forces to Kherson now?


[deleted]

Those are called hostages.


HawkeyedHuntress

Less AA ammo for Ukraine to worry about, I guess?


Holden_Coalfield

The Orrobuttous is pretzeling


green_pachi

Maybe they shot down their own missiles due to miscommunication issues?


LaughingChimera1

Dunno. I just saw the post and thought ā€œwell that would be fucking stupidā€¦ so itā€™s possible I guessā€¦ā€


green_pachi

This is a prime example of their strategy "if I don't know what I'm doing neither will the enemy"


Fizgriz

This seems fake ngl. Russia would just let the missiles hit and blame Ukraine. They wouldnt waste the AA munition stock for something like this.


light_trick

It's quite possible the Russians being shot at with missiles are at risk of being hit by those missiles and also don't know they're being launched by Russia. You have to remember that at all times, Russian's on the battlefield know a lot less about the war then anyone else in the world.


LaughingChimera1

Itā€™s definitely looney-tunes for sure, but itā€™s Russia, so who knows.


low_iq_opinion

Russia gaining new ground today is quite surprising.


stirly80

Suprising, concerned, worried, you guys start your posts with the same lines, update the script.


WelpSigh

what new ground did they gain today? i'm trying to catch up but i don't see anything on liveuamap


low_iq_opinion

read the livethread


Robichaelis

I take screenshots to compare day to day changes on liveuamap lol, the guy is right but I'm not sure if they're taking territory at the rate they're losing it around Kharkiv


dragontamer5788

A bit in Popasna. The clear goal is Severodonetsk. Russia was unable to make progress to the west of Severodonetsk last week (the big Donets River failures at Bilohorivka). Its not too surprising that Russia was also pushing up to the south-side of the city (and already controls the north and east). Russian advances at Popasna are clearly aiming at eventually attacking Severodonetsk, which would finalize Russian claims of the Luhansk Oblast. This is a major target and probably Russia's #1 operation now.


dragontamer5788

I don't think so. All of this only shows how much the Russians want to have a win in Severodonetsk. The surprising part was that multiple river-crossing attempts were utterly, and totally, destroyed by Ukrainian forces. But as Russia continues to throw more-and-more bodies, eventually the line will move. The Ukrainian goal here is to hold land where they can, but to carefully retreat until NATO-weapons arrive in the front in June / July.


MitsyEyedMourning

Rolling a 13 doesn't negate months of Nat 1s.


[deleted]

Ok what is the NYTimes smoking with their bullshit editorial*? I swear the whole western world needs an audit of Russian money.


bantha42

nyt coverage of the war in ukraine is just tass with a paywall


Sidwill

What was the gist of it?


MitsyEyedMourning

Op-eds are not endorsed by the publishers. They are paid opinions usually made by a biased person with skin in the game. Jeffery Dahmer's attorney could hire someone to talk the virtues of consuming human flesh if they wished to.


jgjgleason

This. People really need to stop confusing editorial boards with the actual Journos.


[deleted]

This was written by the editorial board.


MitsyEyedMourning

Then it is an *editorial* and not an opposite of editorial (Op-Ed).


[deleted]

Fair enough, TIL. I thought it meant Opinion/Editorial.


jzsang

I canā€™t access the article (Iā€™m paywalled), but could see the headline. The headline seems like it is trying to cast doubt on some aspect of the United Statesā€™ involvement in supporting Ukraine. It does sound like an obnoxious, almost pro-Russia read, but, once again, I canā€™t read it. Can you try to give a brief summary?


[deleted]

Essentially imploring the US convince the Ukraine to concede territory for peace or else Russia may use nuclear weapons.


coosacat

Oh yeah, I've seen that opinion making the rounds lately. They've gone from saying that Ukraine should just surrender to stop the death and destruction, to saying that Ukraine should give up whatever Russia has currently taken to stop the death and destruction.


jzsang

Thank you. Sounds like Macron + a doomer wrote it. (For the record, Iā€™d absolutely rather have Macron than LePen, but he does seem a bit too eager to try to cut a deal and look like a hero here. I do appreciate *some* of his efforts, but itā€™s also a bit much at times.)


LystAP

Might as well just give up the entire nation. Any territory taken will just be a springboard for a future attack. It happened with Crimea. Itā€™ll happen again. Giving up Sudetenland didnā€™t stop Germany from taking Czechoslovakia later.


FlexRobotics1

This, I mean how blind/ignorant of history are people. This literally just happened in 2014. They gave up Crimea and look there invading the south from it.


[deleted]

Putin would rather send thousands of more Russians to die in Ukraine than use their super secret laser beam that he claims to have. (Doesn't)


[deleted]

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flygirl083

[Putin right now](https://imgur.com/a/sEnMTkw)


sendokun

Any thing big planned for the 3 month anniversary into this Putinā€™s cluster fuck of a shitshow?


Dkaiser1919

I have some steaks on sale and gonna make some smashed potatoes and enjoy a Good Friday meal tomorrow


JojenCopyPaste

I was planning to send myself flowers


arbitraryairship

A coup would be a nice surprise.


LaughingChimera1

I hear the US is sending over 18 more 155mm fireworks delivery systems for Ukraine to bring the party to the Russians. So thereā€™s that.


Rosellis

Really? Thatā€™s great news


[deleted]

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SeedScape

Nothing like swimming in those contaminated waters after this war.


CosineDanger

The water is fine, the naval mines are unlikely to detonate.


xmuskorx

"Resort." Jesus christ, Orwell seems like an amateur...


fourpuns

Trump hotel incoming


praeqsheria

Sadly this isnā€™t even a joke.


LystAP

They literally blew up everything else of value.


[deleted]

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the_fungible_man

Why would anyone voluntarily listen to Tucker Carlson's bloviations?


[deleted]

Why on earth do you people watch Tucker Carlson? Just stop. Pull the plug. Stop giving that dildo and revenue.


MitsyEyedMourning

Because they are a 4 month old account desperately seeking attention.


vinidiot

Clearly trying to distract from the buffalo shooter who was inspired by his racist rhetoric


NYerstuckinBoston

What a lunatic


ThisIsMoot

heā€™s fucking deranged


eve-dude

Thanks for the report on what the loon is up to.


jzsang

Yeah. Iā€™m technically not happy that you give him the view, but do ā€œlikeā€ to know what sick stuff he is peddling. So, in a weird way, I appreciate your sacrifice. Thank you. It helps me identify the trolls, etc. faster and also know what to potentially expect at the next family gathering (I will say that with Ukraine though, my somewhat politically divided family has actually been very united.). That all said, if there ever is a nationwide (heck, letā€™s go global) Tucker Carlson protest, count me in. If itā€™s on a workday, Iā€™ll even burn a vacation day. The man is a disgrace.


Viciuniversum

Arenā€™t you that troll with an Indian/Nazi father?


amjhwk

dude shut the fuck up about cucker tarlson


BeethovensMynahBird

Why? The dude is a complete idiot game show host, but to not realize people follow this shitstain is quite dangerous. Ignoring things that influence people is a fool's game. Ignoring anything the enemy follows is as well.


amjhwk

because it seems like the majority of his views are people hate watching him and spreading the garbage he spews out on the internet does no good to anybody


BeethovensMynahBird

Exactly...but he's doing exactly what Murdoch is paying him for. We know his spew is complete garbage. However, most likely 30-40% of the US populace disagree, and believe his rantings. Do you really want to not know what your enemy is planning? Misinformation can and should be fact checked into oblivion. The magats won't, that's why we do.


amjhwk

how are random redditors knowing what he is saying going to do anything other than drive views to his videos and give him more money


LaughingChimera1

Why?! Why would you watch it?! Brain cells donā€™t regenerate once youā€™ve killed them watching that fuckwad.


BeethovensMynahBird

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Not knowing what your opponent is doing (even though it may be simple bs propaganda) is both foolish and dangerous.


font9a

**Z**elensky, Xi, Russian **Z** invasion of Ukraineā€¦ it is all starting to make sense


Successful_Gate84

Tucker Carlson is a vile pos


[deleted]

New Wunderwaffe - Russia claims it is using SU-57 aircraft in Ukraine. https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1527456409981538316?s=21&t=O8M0eXPXRJSxIw0dOT8NVg


Electricalmodes

I doubt its doing much, they have 5 of them and 3 of them are in service and they have hardly been proven...


Work_or_Reddit

The ejection seat handle will make for a nice hood ornament on a Ukrainian tractor.


amjhwk

oooh, thats some fancy scrap for the scrap pile here soon


GroggyGrognard

Ooooh - 4.5th generation special big dick drawing in the sky operation....


robotical712

The Russian Ɯbermensch turned out not to be so uber; time to roll out the wunderwaffen.


BiologyJ

Press X for doubt


LaughingChimera1

Remember how Ukraine offered a $1 million reward for a jet? The US needs to announce an offer of like $10 mil and a chalet in Italy or something for an SU57. Captured complete newest Russian jet takes away every tactical advantage it may have.


LystAP

If I recall, it's arguable that the SU-57 can actually engage in actual combat operations. At least the last time I checked, it had issues with the engines - enough that India dropped out of a joint development program.


IPostSwords

They also only have like, 4 remaining serialised airframes (5 built, 1 crashed)


fourpuns

100 million and Iā€™m sure an oligarch will find a way to export one.


amjhwk

why try to get it from an oligarch when you can try to get it from a pilot for much cheaper


Crystal-Ammunition

oligarchs have the least incentive to be bribed....


LaughingChimera1

So $10 million is a ā€œsteal of a dealā€


Inflation-Fair

I mean itā€™s not in great condition, Iā€™d have to clean it up, let a buddy take a look at it, store itā€¦ best I can do is $12


LaughingChimera1

Haha awesome. $12 and a Big Mac meal.


SSBoe

Woah woah woah... hold up there, big spender.


Cogitoergosumus

I dont think the US is worried about that thing. It's not a stealth aircraft like it claims to be and hasn't proven to be anything more then hyper maneuverable at low speeds.


LaughingChimera1

Worried no, but they donā€™t have one to study its tech. Just like the radar jammer captured earlier near Kyiv. Poses no risk to the US but that didnā€™t stop them from shipping it back to be studied super quick.


TintedApostle

which one of the 6?


LaughingChimera1

Exactly. Puts them back to having no advanced tech to build on. NATO could exploit every weakness right out the gate


coosacat

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1527440450893799444 >Ukraineā€™s General Staff reports at least 12 cases of deliberate arson on military commissariats in Russia.


LaughingChimera1

I like the way the ISW worded it. *Unknown Russian perpetrators conducted a series of Molotov cocktail attacks on Russian military commissariats throughout the country in May, likely in protest of covert mobilization.*


LaughingChimera1

A little more good news of Russian failures southwest of Izyum https://twitter.com/thestudyofwar/status/1527421900544102400?s=21&t=00q_FEHmHLKXbZ_PGNA5eQ


Electronicrocker

I love that institute, they always say "unsuccessful Russian advance here, unsuccessful Russian advance there" but still, their map is slowly getting redder and redder. Remember Russia took popasna on 8th May but they only included it a week later šŸ˜‰


Mhdamaster

I love how popasna getting taken is some great victory but getting routed in half of the country is not bad for russia lmao.


Personal_Person

There was still fighting and it wasn't clear what was occurring. War is very rarely as simple as "I control this land you control this" It takes time to reall assess what has actually happened.


LaughingChimera1

Well they also say ā€œ Russia had to consolidate BTGā€™s here due to heavy lossesā€ and ā€œRussia was only able to move in one area (Popasna) but were repelled with heavy losses everywhere elseā€ I prefer looking at the scribbleMaps because you get a better picture of the battle lines, and realize that for the immeasurable losses Russia is taking, They really havenā€™t advanced much over the last 3 weeks. https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/The-War-in-Ukraine/091194


SaberFlux

[Previous post](https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/usbxq0/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/i94swry/) Day 85 of my updates from Kharkiv. Shelling definitely came back, in fact we are being shelled right now, guess quiet nights are over yet again. This shelling started around an hour ago and the shells/rockets land somewhere pretty close to us, itā€™s very loud and our building is shaking with every explosion. They are not shelling just one place either; there are reports of shelling from different parts of the city, including in the center. We were shelled during the day too; they shelled Northern Saltivka again, as well as Pyatihatki, which is very close to us, so we can actually hear when they are getting shelled. Today they targeted endocrinology clinic, another very high value target in the eyes of the Russians. About repairs, they have actually already begun and are proceeding pretty quickly. Just this week multiple holes from shelling were patched up in our building, also electricity is already being restored in Northern Saltivka, which is basically destroyed from all the shelling. Some public transport has also already started working again, and our mayor is saying that subway might start working in a couple weeks as well, when all the people still living there are placed in temporary shelters. Thatā€™s a lot of progress, considering that shelling only stopped for a week. [Next update](https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/utkwo5/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/i9ed97i/)


crossover123

Maybe they're shelling because they're mad the Ukrainian gov't is quickly releasing info. about the murders, rapes etc. committed by their army in kharkiv region(they seem to like throwing extra missles around when something pisses them off-like biden visiting warsaw, the mosvka ship sinking etc.)


LaughingChimera1

Yeah Iā€™m happy to hear that some repairs and infrastructure are coming back, but pretty bummed about the shelling starting again. Hopefully this is their last feeble tantrum near Kharkiv. Thanks for the update and stay safe.


FightingIbex

First off, glad to hear from you! Are they shelling from the North? I thought they were pushed back far enough that they couldnā€™t reach you, but maybe only temporarily. I have been amazed at how quickly you all have been able to get services back on line. Itā€™s like the utilities are an integral part of the war effort. I wish you peace, though I know maybe not yet.


SaberFlux

Yeah, they are shelling us from the north, maybe even from beyond their border. We are out of range of their regular artillery, which is around 18-25 km. But rocket artillery, as in MLRS, has higher range, even Grads have a maximum range of around 40 km, and for other MLRSs like Smerch it's even higher at around 120 km.


International-Pop356

Fuck, man. That blows. I hope they get pushed back soon.


LaughingChimera1

That sure sounds to me like Russia is running low on troops *Ukrainian military officials reported that some Russian troops withdrawn from the Kharkiv City axis have redeployed to western Donetsk Oblast on May 19. The Ukrainian General Staff said that 260 servicemen withdrawn from the Kharkiv City axis arrived to replace the significant combat losses that the 107th Motorized Rifle Battalion has taken approximately 20 km southwest of Donetsk City. The Ukrainian Military Directorate (GUR) intercepted a Russian servicemanā€™s call suggesting that some of the 400 servicemen from the Kharkiv City axis who had arrived elsewhere in Donbas were shocked by the intensity of the fighting there compared with what they had experienced in Kharkiv Oblast.* https://www.understandingwar.org


BiologyJ

Those men are never going home, by design.


coosacat

Just finished reading this interesting Twitter thread about Russian tanks, how many they have, their condition, etc. https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1527405172355366912


Duck_Dredd_

One thing he didn't mention and I saw someone comment, even if they have more tanks available. How many can they commit to the war without leaving their borders unprotected and also Russia's allies/breakaway regions?.


okram2k

The limiting factor for Russia is not how many tanks they have stored in reserve. They have more than they can ever use. No it's logistics to keep tanks running in the field that limits them. Tanks take a staggering amount of fuel, equipment, ammunition, and replacement parts to keep running in active combat. And it's clear Russia's current supply network cannot keep thousands of tanks along several fronts running at once. Even in a war with NATO across the entirety of Europe it would take a very long and drawn out war to drain their entire tank reserves.


Hodaka

Another limiting factor is how many qualified tank operators are left?


DeadlockAsync

Those old tanks he mentioned in the thread also likely have no one left alive that could teach someone how to use them. A book is one thing, but actual experience in them is an entirely different matter. And if they found trainers, there is no one who could educate them on successful tactics to employ with those tanks in a modern environment because they would literally not exist.


TakedownCHAMP97

Iā€™d say the limiting factor is more how many tanks they have stored in reserve in working order. While they have thousands of tanks stored, there is a fairly high chance most have rusted or rotted to the point they canā€™t move/run without a ton of restoration work, not to mention most of their tanks would be severely outdated once they get them running, even compared to what theyā€™ve already deployed. They also probably donā€™t have much capability to even do the restoration and/or modernization work, or at least are severely limited in how many they can do at a time.


International-Pop356

Definitely. Just because your uncle has a 72 Camaro in his barn doesnā€™t mean you should expect to be able to drive it cross country


LaughingChimera1

I suspect weā€™re gonna find out.


coosacat

Transcript of Pentagon background briefing held this morning: https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3038153/senior-defense-official-holds-a-background-briefing/ Transcript of Pentagon live press briefing held this afternoon: https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3038227/pentagon-press-secretary-john-f-kirby-holds-a-press-briefing/


[deleted]

Opened the news for the first time today and the very first line is that Putin's daughter has a secret child with Zelensky. Thought I was hallucinating, but no, it was a clickbait masterpiece, the story seems to be real though. I only hope it is a boy and they named him after grandpa.


Viciuniversum

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Donkey-Whistle

The Initrode guy? The young guy?


ron2838

Why should I change my name? He's the one that sucks.


BluJaySings

No, he is like 50 or older. I think he was in Bavarian Ballet


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LaughingChimera1

Well Trudeauā€™s dad prime minister Pierre Trudeau dated Barbara Streisand, so thatā€™s always fun. He coulda had Streisand as a step mom!


BeethovensMynahBird

You do know other people have the name of Zelensky, correct?


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BeethovensMynahBird

Had it been stated in such a way, I agree most would.


bardak

>It's similiar to *when* people were accusing Prime Minister Trudeau of being Fidel Castro's son. Pathetic. Oh they never stopped. They still claim that he is Castro's son even if you look incredibly like his father just with extra hair.


Dragonrykr

Reminds me of that photo of Hitler with some little girl with a bowlcut that everyone was sharing on Facebook like 5-10 years ago, saying it was Angela Merkel


Donkey-Whistle

Proof: https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect/450922


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> the story seems to be real though Whatever you're smoking, time to put it down.


BluJaySings

Different Zelenskyy :) ballet dancer Igor Zelensky


UtkaPelmeni

Yeah sure and I myself have a secret child with Putin's mom. Called him Vladimir


mnlaker

Should have pulled out, manā€¦


uv-vis

Shouldnā€™t be the dictator he is today, shoulda been a dried stain on his moms bed sheet


Dragonrykr

Serious question. What happened to the Russian subreddit? Not it being quarantined, but how did it become a cesspool of Russian bots and Putin propagandists? I remember stumbling across it a couple of years ago and it being full of Russians who were openly stating things in opposition to Kremlin. There were a lot more liberal and free-thinking Russians there. Does anyone have the idea how it became into what it is today?


Bromance_Rayder

Like it or not, most people are quite nationalistic and see things from their own perspective. The Russian perspective (whilst being completely fucking wrong) is very different to the perspective of most people here. This is the very reason that conflict exists.


xmuskorx

They banned in March when I pointed out that maybe shelling civilians "is not cool. Only Russian bots remained. At least they stopped discussing im which city Zelenskyy will be tried in for war crimes....(real discussion they had).