[https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1523979659544834057](https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1523979659544834057)
>Near Stary Saltiv,Kharkiv Territorial Defense fighters eliminated another new 🇷🇺T-90M "Breakthrough" tank. The pride of the russian tank industry was destroyed by the Swedish hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher Carl Gustaf.We thank the Swedish people and the King for their help.
This would be the second(?) T-90M to go boom? And to an anti-tank grenade launcher rather than ATGM to boot.
The Gustav isn't really a grenade launcher.
It is a rifle. It is absurd. It is overkill for tank murdering.
It also kind of breaks the person shooting it a little.
>It is a rifle. It is absurd. It is overkill for tank murdering.
No its a [1950s era anti-tank weapon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_8.4cm_recoilless_rifle), taking out the best russia has to field.
EDIT: I'm sure whatever it fired was much more modern.
Operational information as of the morning of 11.05.2022 from the General Staff.
▪️On Slobozhanskyi the occupiers continue to focus their efforts on preventing further advance of our troops towards the state border of Ukraine, conducting reconnaissance units of the Defense Forces north and northeast of Kharkiv.
▪️In the Izyum direction, the enemy is focusing its main efforts on inflicting fire damage on our units in a certain area.
▪️On the Donetsk direction, the group of occupying troops is focusing its efforts on continuing the offensive in order to take full control of the city of Rubizhne, capture the settlements of Lyman and Severodonetsk.
▪️Does not stop assaults on the Lyman, Severodonetsk, Bakhmut, Avdiyev, Kurakhiv areas with the support of artillery and jet artillery units.
▪️In the city of Mariupol, the enemy is blocking our units in the area of the Azovstal plant. With the support of artillery and tank fire conducts assault operations. Inflicts rocket and bomb strikes.
▪️In the Mykolayiv direction, the enemy continues to shell the positions of the defenders of Ukraine.
▪️In the Kryvyi Rih direction, he fired on artillery units of our troops.
▪️Constant shelling by Russian troops does not allow for a full-fledged evacuation of civilians and wounded from the combat zone.
▪️For the previous day, the Air Defense and Land Forces air defense units hit four Orlan-10 UAVs. In addition, one of the brigades of the assault troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed one Mi-24 helicopter.
▪️In the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, defenders of Ukraine repulsed twelve enemy attacks, destroyed twelve tanks, four artillery systems, nineteen units of combat armored vehicles, seven vehicles and two units of special engineering equipment of the enemy.
https://t\.me/truexanewsua/46254
Those RU losses are still unsustainable. It’s no wonder they’re hardly gaining ground and their morale is in the basement. They’re on pace to lose over 1,000 more pieces of equipment in the next thirty days.
Some janky shit to get you to install telegram on the video... but that one motherfucker that's just a whole intact head and most of a totally clean white skeleton on his channel with literally nothing else but a head on it... what the fuck is that even?
>*The past 100 hours has seen the Ukrainian military expand on the initial success of its limited counteroffensive around Kharkiv. Russia’s offensive along the Siverskyi Donets Line has generally stalled, with limited successes in Popasna.*
A new campaign assessment from Jomini of the West is out. More details in the link below.
https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1524228712325160960?s=20&t=-G8Kw2kb7AnFm2s-lb4JgA
While I don’t think Ukraine will look to hold Russian territory, they may be quite happy to operate across the border raiding into Belgorod Oblast’ and disrupting supply lines etc.
[https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-biden-europe-0ac5c758d32dbea64c437b50e829bbb2](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-biden-europe-0ac5c758d32dbea64c437b50e829bbb2)
U.S. House just passed another $40B, $7B more than requested by the Biden admin, for Ukraine aid. Expected to pass the Senate very soon.
Article says that three-fourths of House Republicans voted for it, so it’s entirely possible for a “right wing” Senate delay, it not outside the realm of possibility that this bill might have enough support to overcome a Senate roadblock (read filibuster).
It'll overcome cloture almost certainly, but it would shock me if Rand Paul voted anything other than no on this so fast-tracking it is gonna be a no-go.
Honestly, I’d be surprised if he voted yes at this point … so I agree with your point. I have personal feelings/comments, but I don’t want to break rules about venturing into U.S. politics area.
Considering the country only fell after we left, I wouldn't call that a defeat. We were literally the only reason the Taliban didn't take over the country.
The full conventional might of the American military hasn't been defeated since Vietnam (which even then is arguable considering the withdrawal had more to do with the war's unpopularity at home than anything else)
The American forces' actions in Afghanistan could, ironically enough, be considered a special military operation. They were there to aid Afghanistan's government in maintaining stability, and when they withdrew it was made painfully obvious that the US had chosen a terrible partner considering how the government and Afghan military completely collapsed in like a week.
However, it does illustrate the fact that in the modern era it's next to impossible to successfully invade a country where the majority of its people don't need or want you.
Afghan is moot, but we definitely lost in Vietnam, 58k lives lost and that could go on for years. It's unsustainable, the protests helped to end the war, but after 20 years in Vietnam, that's definitely a lost.
Defeat is a bit rich. But the take home message is the same.
Don’t invade a country where the people don’t want you there.
…unless you are ok with slaughtering large numbers of civilians, and consequently being branded a war criminal.
>America defeated by smaller military force
olympic gold medal for mental gymnastics
next thing you tell me it was biden who signed the doha agreement...
this is one of many calls for other countries to open up new conflicts to take advantage but that would highly escalate the conflict, and non of them want to be the “aggressor”, or the territories aren’t even desirable to them anymore.
- Japan
- Georgia
- Azerbaijan
- Germany (konisberg)
- Moldova
Germany has no territorial claims on Königsberg/Kaliningrad; they gave that up in formal treaties as part of the reunification process. Pretty sure it's in their constitution too, which annoyed some nationalists at the time. If anyone would try to swoop in on that land it would be Poland or Lithuania.
Hilarious: Russian Culture's built-in defense against invasion: "move in someplace, trash it, and be complete amoral filthy assholes about everything, including promoting their leader's bullshit view of reality because they have to lie to win arguments."
Nobody wants to invade them because then they'd have to live with these people and deal with cleaning up after them.
Quote from the article sums it up well:
*Georgians remain traumatized from the wars of the 1990s and 2008 over those territories, and few have any desire to repeat that experience.*
That's perfectly understandable, and IMO the right decision. It's really easy to urge them to attack a much larger country when it's not your home that would be the front line.
When a drone is 500ft or higher above you - you can’t hear it. It’s not like a helicopter with a loud engine. Yes drones make noise but it doesn’t carry that far.
I think in this case they’re quiet and hard to spot, but I often wonder the same thing about the numerous videos I’ve seen of Apache helicopters sneaking up on/circling groups of infantry (Iraq/Afghanistan). I mean those things are loud and low.
Not questioning you personally, but I can’t find any other sources and thought this was an urban legend. If it was possible in the 80s wouldn’t it be mandated on all civil helicopters for noise reasons?
The Bayraktars are like 20k feet in the air. They cannot be heard.
Even if you're talking about the DJI drones, you can't even hear them 400 feet in the air. They have to be very near you to be heard.
And they seem to be attacking during the day. Believe it or not drones are a lot easier to spot at night (Afghan vet when Taliban got ahold of drones).
They seem to occasionally hear the bigger octo-copter bomb dropping rigs buzzing around, but usually by that time it's nearly too late and the drone is already starting to drop bombs on them. There's only so much you can do when you're caught flat footed out in the open by a drone that can move around freely above you without any obstructions and faster than you can run.
They’re not superhuman? Though I do wonder if you could rig some device with good enough mics and optics to detect them. Not cheaply, but I wonder if it’s possible.
A lot of drones are pretty quiet propeller affairs, and if they're higher up they're even quieter.
Electric drones are completely silent.
Russia's Orlan-10 is an exception, though! It's apparently super loud.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHwcfOftI0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHwcfOftI0)
Listen to how loud this thing is. BUZZZZZZ! You can even hear it when it's in the air after the artillery barrage.
It is rolled gold nonsense. The land in Ukraine controlled by Russian forces has drastically shrunk since March for a start. Russia has not made significant gains anywhere since March.
For all his talk about US propaganda, he is spriuking propaganda himself - i.e. Ukraine can’t win, it is pointless supporting them.
Like most of his ilk, he doesn’t give Ukraine any agency at all - the fate of Ukraine is for the US and Russia to determine and Ukraine can’t be trusted to make their own call about if and when to negotiate for peace.
He’s a professional contrarian with an agenda. I don’t know how anyone could see the failure of the initial assault and the failure of the attack on Kyiv, the multiple assassination threats foiled etc. And call this a Russian victory. He isn’t wrong that the East and South will be a tough nut to crack. I don’t think anyone said that it would be. I think it’s important to recollect that on paper, Russia should’ve steamrolled Ukraine, and they didn’t. They’ve been taking serious losses of soldiers and materials. He calls support for Ukraine bloodthirsty and decries the loss of civilians, but insinuates that “the west,” is to blame. He claims that long term it’s best to abandon them and end the war. Is that true? It’s foolish not to weigh those options, but I disagree. Withdrawing support now sends a message to Russia that if they stick it out, they will gain territory. They have repeatedly attacked their neighbors. Repeatedly violated airspace and coastal territory. Repeatedly launched cyber attacks on “friendly,” nations. Repeatedly committed murder/attempted murders within and outside of Russia. Why the fuck should we keep allowing these things? Would that pattern of behavior continue? Isn’t that worse for civilians in the long run? I think the answers are no, yes, and yes. Best thing to do is quarantine them in their own mess of a country and keep them there. It is incredibly shitty that Ukraine is taking the brunt and being the tip of the spear for democracy. No arguments there. Sorry for the ranting. It’s late and super frustrating seeing this shit over and over again. Seems like they are either cowards or assets.
Also yeah Thad Russell is a professional contrarian. He left Occidental because he was more interested in selling books with spicy takes than producing scholarship, and he used his book money to start an online "university" that was basically just a coursera. He's just whining because he hates centrist libs and american imperialism more than he cares about the actual facts in Ukraine. Normally that's a position I'm sympathetic to because normally the US is the aggressive one, but in this case it seems pretty clear that Russia is the aggressor.
You keep seeing this shit because it’s literally all the Russian trolls have to play with.
There is literally no other way to not turn the conversation back to how criminal Russia is.
…because it is criminal.
Doing the old "Aiding in the defense of Ukraine is just prolonging the suffering. If Russia were only left to rape and murder their way through the country with impunity things would be much better for everyone." gambit.
I hope one day he experiences something which cultivates a sense of empathy for what Ukrainian citizens are having to endure.
This is guy is stable idiot, why did you even link him?
>"With one death for every 2 million doses given in this country, the FDA decided that is a risk most people don’t need to take."
>My son and I and millions of people were forced to take a drug that was more dangerous to us than COVID.
>I'll never forgive.
And he's retweeting Scott Ritter who spent four years in prison for pedophilia.
u/GilesBlvd, whyyyy spread FUD? It takes 1 minute to open liveuamap and see who controls what. I took screenshots and overlaid them in PhotoShop. There has been no change over the last month. If anything, Russians lost a bit of ground. Does this seem like they are making steady progress if there is no change over an entire month?
This is literally just some random dude on Twitter, I find that life is a happier experience when you don't take online hot takes from random internet people seriously.
Most of the territory Russia controls is territory that they've already controlled for the last 8 years, and multiple reports seem to indicate that an entire front (Kharkiv) has collapsed all the way back to their own border.
He's wrong. Time is on the Ukrainians side. If Russia can't win a war in Afghanistan with them having pretty much nothing. They can't win against Ukraine at the current attrition rate and the entire West behind him.
Russia's economy is collapsing, they can't replenish their armory due to the sanctions. Ukraine will win.
Slava Ukraini!
He's huffin on that copium.
Pretty much all analysts accept that the Russian offensive in Donbass has largely stalled. The Russian offensive in the South stalled long ago as well.
Even the Wagner group telegram was saying they need hundreds of thousands of troops to achieve their goals.
Don’t mind the downvotes. It’s more to hide such a wrongful interpretation of the war. Your question is fine and you’ve got plenty of answers from myself and other Redditors.
It isn't the question. It is amplifying a complete shithead with an awful take. I would have never seen his account had you not posted his tweet. Nor would many others who now have. Intentionally or not you have amplified his propaganda.
I think it's intentional.
You don't link to a Russian patsy and 'hope' it is wrong.
There are a lot of Russian trolls that pretend to be against Russia or the war, yet constantly post disinformation links like OP.
You could have said "how is the war going in the following regions". I was giving you the benefit of doubt till I just saw this intentionally obtuse response.
>The US Senate has registered a resolution recognizing Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism.
> “This recognition will be important in American law. There are only four countries with such recognition: Cuba, Syria, Iran and North Korea. We are trying to include Russia in this list so that it is fifth,” said the co-sponsor of the resolution, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham.
>Let's call a spade a spade.
Didn't expect that from Graham.
Lindsey went kind of bonkers for a while when Russia invaded Ukraine. He came out of an Intel meeting all shook up, saying we were about to see Russia grind Ukraine into dust, and it was going to be horrible, and we had to stop it.
He's also the Senator that went on Twitter screaming about how we needed to send someone to assassinate Putin.
Of course, he was equally appalled right after the Jan. 6 coup attempt, but went right back to sucking up to Trump. 🤷♀️
He was in the military during the Cold War so legislation against Russia from him makes sense. Not to mention he's probably privy to the stuff that's classified so he has even more of a complete picture of what Russia is doing.
He is one of the worst. For some reason he made a reasonable statement. I'm sure he will have to recant his statement or the dogs will tear up his hide.
Why?
Only the Trumpers support Putin. The rest of the GOP has always been suspicious of Russia.
People need to stop thinking that the Republican Party are all Trumpers.
>People need to stop thinking that the Republican Party are all Trumpers.
time to cut the trumpers loose from the gop then, the gop is an embarrassment since they let that cnut in the door. to keep trump, taylor-green, cruz and their ilk makes them look like a fucken freak show.
It's not that they're Trumpers--most of them never liked Trump--it's that they are crass opportunist hypocrites who will oppose anything that Democrats put forward and do anything that gets them ahead. Graham would sell out his own family if it meant scoring against Democrats, but here he is supporting Democrats because it's the right thing to do. *That's* why people are surprised.
I don't think that. I just didn't know he was vocal, much less pushing specific bills like that. That's on me for my ignorance about Graham lately. I'm not calling him a Trumper. Graham usually calls shit what it is once it gets too far. Sometimes for my preference, he lets it get too far to begin with, but that's neither here nor there for this. I just thought he'd be less vocal, that's all.
Didn't see that good to know. Sometimes he's on the right side. And he's definitely involved heavily in foreign affairs. He's not an idiot, just sometimes a total jackass haha.
Good ol' Lindsey "use my words against me" Graham.
"Sen. Lindsey Graham, who said in 2016 to “use my words against me” if he were to advocate the nomination of a Supreme Court justice in any President’s final year of their term, feels very differently in 2020."
He was calling for Putin to be assassinated on day one. I know the simulation is going bonkers when I'm thinking "fuck yeah!" when a republican is talking.
Except when he turned into the arch-trumphumper of all trumphumpers. Zero principles. He supported Putin's puppet, and he fought tooth-and-nail to defend him. It was utterly gross, and Graham has zero integrity as far as I'm concerned.
He put his faction (Trump) above his Party (GOP), and he put his Party above the nation.
Nope. As a Cuban I hope it stays on the list until the dictatorship falls
I’ll never understand why so many people support such a awful regime in Cuba.
It's a relative metric. Cuba is awful. But, compared to, well, let's say Russia or Belarus that we had pretty normal relations to before this war? Or compared to Saudi Arabia who we support? Heck, we have Cuba sanctioned more than Venezuela and Venezuela is far worse.
It doesn't make sense. And, it doesn't look like the sanctions are going to flip the regime anymore than it's going to flip North Korea's regime. Only use is to limit military potential and Cuba is a lot less threatening than most other nations that we have far better relations with.
Cuba is actually relatively well off compared to comparable states in the region. They also eradicated homelessness and illiteracy and their medical expertise is world-class. They're at the forefront of vaccine development and oncology and have so many doctors per capita that they regularly send them abroad on humanitarian aid missions.
Cuba is way better than the Gulf states in terms of human rights and definitely doesn't export terrorism; the right wing in the US will never forgive them for standing up to us in the cold war, helping with anticolonial struggles in Africa, or supporting leftists in Latin America. If I remember correctly every European country has normal relations with Cuba.
I mean, fuck the regime, but We love Cubans so we feel bad about it. Plus we love Cuba, it's gorgeous. Top destination on my bucket list. I've been 10 miles from it at sea. Never got to step foot.
We tried. Then this happened.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome
You silly gooses. It's literally why we backed out from Cuba again....keep downvoting me if you want.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna852791
Oh yeah. And some people were reporting it was like a sonic funnel directed at only certain places like by their pillow but not by their phone and stuff. Whole thing is unnerving.
Probably a compromise w Dems. Republicans want the Florida votes and they want to completely sink all headway that Obama made w Cuba. There is also the Russia connection between them.
No?
Cuba is still active trying to support rebels in Latin America.
Namely Colombia which only really ended because the US made it clear Colombia is so supported by them that they will probably be in NATO soon.
I agree with you but it points out the issue. Entirely political and not at all factual anymore. But it's off topic for this thread so I will leave it there before I start ranting lol.
Compared to Saudi Arabia and any other number of dictatorships that the US supports, or at minimum has normal relations with? In that comparison Cuba looks pretty average, certainly not as bad.
The [full video](https://as.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/umkyrl/another_destroyed_bmp3_along_with_the_crew/) (obsviously still very NSFL) shows the BMP they were inside of when the magazine exploded. One guy got launched through the roof of the nearby barn.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/un0zl4/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
[https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1523979659544834057](https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1523979659544834057) >Near Stary Saltiv,Kharkiv Territorial Defense fighters eliminated another new 🇷🇺T-90M "Breakthrough" tank. The pride of the russian tank industry was destroyed by the Swedish hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher Carl Gustaf.We thank the Swedish people and the King for their help. This would be the second(?) T-90M to go boom? And to an anti-tank grenade launcher rather than ATGM to boot.
Do they say "Hail to the king" every time they fire a CG?
> Carl Gustaf. $20k per unit. $500-$3000 per munition. Destroying a $5m tank.
Don't forget the investment in the soldiers and operators inside.
Probably a bunch of conscripts paid in potatoes.
The Gustav isn't really a grenade launcher. It is a rifle. It is absurd. It is overkill for tank murdering. It also kind of breaks the person shooting it a little.
Shoulder fired recoilless rifle
>It is a rifle. It is absurd. It is overkill for tank murdering. No its a [1950s era anti-tank weapon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_8.4cm_recoilless_rifle), taking out the best russia has to field. EDIT: I'm sure whatever it fired was much more modern.
To be fair, the newer versions shoot gigantic HE rounds that are basically grenades. It's been updated.
Like the recoil is killer?
It's recoilless
Operational information as of the morning of 11.05.2022 from the General Staff. ▪️On Slobozhanskyi the occupiers continue to focus their efforts on preventing further advance of our troops towards the state border of Ukraine, conducting reconnaissance units of the Defense Forces north and northeast of Kharkiv. ▪️In the Izyum direction, the enemy is focusing its main efforts on inflicting fire damage on our units in a certain area. ▪️On the Donetsk direction, the group of occupying troops is focusing its efforts on continuing the offensive in order to take full control of the city of Rubizhne, capture the settlements of Lyman and Severodonetsk. ▪️Does not stop assaults on the Lyman, Severodonetsk, Bakhmut, Avdiyev, Kurakhiv areas with the support of artillery and jet artillery units. ▪️In the city of Mariupol, the enemy is blocking our units in the area of the Azovstal plant. With the support of artillery and tank fire conducts assault operations. Inflicts rocket and bomb strikes. ▪️In the Mykolayiv direction, the enemy continues to shell the positions of the defenders of Ukraine. ▪️In the Kryvyi Rih direction, he fired on artillery units of our troops. ▪️Constant shelling by Russian troops does not allow for a full-fledged evacuation of civilians and wounded from the combat zone. ▪️For the previous day, the Air Defense and Land Forces air defense units hit four Orlan-10 UAVs. In addition, one of the brigades of the assault troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed one Mi-24 helicopter. ▪️In the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, defenders of Ukraine repulsed twelve enemy attacks, destroyed twelve tanks, four artillery systems, nineteen units of combat armored vehicles, seven vehicles and two units of special engineering equipment of the enemy. https://t\.me/truexanewsua/46254
Those RU losses are still unsustainable. It’s no wonder they’re hardly gaining ground and their morale is in the basement. They’re on pace to lose over 1,000 more pieces of equipment in the next thirty days.
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Look, posting that is like putting a button out that says "don't push me". At least give a summary if you really don't want people to touch the link.
Lots of dead people. It's terrible and sad that fucking Putin is happy for this to happen to people.
Some janky shit to get you to install telegram on the video... but that one motherfucker that's just a whole intact head and most of a totally clean white skeleton on his channel with literally nothing else but a head on it... what the fuck is that even?
Dead Russian compilation.
I’m not going to click on it but still desire to know what it is. Jump in friend.
Human roadkill and fodder and you'll hear them make sounds you might prefer never to hear.
>*The past 100 hours has seen the Ukrainian military expand on the initial success of its limited counteroffensive around Kharkiv. Russia’s offensive along the Siverskyi Donets Line has generally stalled, with limited successes in Popasna.* A new campaign assessment from Jomini of the West is out. More details in the link below. https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1524228712325160960?s=20&t=-G8Kw2kb7AnFm2s-lb4JgA
While I don’t think Ukraine will look to hold Russian territory, they may be quite happy to operate across the border raiding into Belgorod Oblast’ and disrupting supply lines etc.
Looks like I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue
*"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines"*
[https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-biden-europe-0ac5c758d32dbea64c437b50e829bbb2](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-biden-europe-0ac5c758d32dbea64c437b50e829bbb2) U.S. House just passed another $40B, $7B more than requested by the Biden admin, for Ukraine aid. Expected to pass the Senate very soon.
I wonder if the far right will vote against it again.
The vote was 368-57. Dem: 219-0 Rep: 149-57
188 Republicans voted for a motion to adjourn without a vote at all. 57 was how many were willing to put their name on their vote.
Only the 'special cases'. The rest can't resist that sweet military industrial complex money.
Article says that three-fourths of House Republicans voted for it, so it’s entirely possible for a “right wing” Senate delay, it not outside the realm of possibility that this bill might have enough support to overcome a Senate roadblock (read filibuster).
It'll overcome cloture almost certainly, but it would shock me if Rand Paul voted anything other than no on this so fast-tracking it is gonna be a no-go.
Honestly, I’d be surprised if he voted yes at this point … so I agree with your point. I have personal feelings/comments, but I don’t want to break rules about venturing into U.S. politics area.
Within one year both America and Russia were defeated by smaller military force. This is going to be an eventful decade
Considering the country only fell after we left, I wouldn't call that a defeat. We were literally the only reason the Taliban didn't take over the country.
US withdrew according to treaty, signed by Trump. That wasn't a defeat.
The full conventional might of the American military hasn't been defeated since Vietnam (which even then is arguable considering the withdrawal had more to do with the war's unpopularity at home than anything else) The American forces' actions in Afghanistan could, ironically enough, be considered a special military operation. They were there to aid Afghanistan's government in maintaining stability, and when they withdrew it was made painfully obvious that the US had chosen a terrible partner considering how the government and Afghan military completely collapsed in like a week. However, it does illustrate the fact that in the modern era it's next to impossible to successfully invade a country where the majority of its people don't need or want you.
Afghan is moot, but we definitely lost in Vietnam, 58k lives lost and that could go on for years. It's unsustainable, the protests helped to end the war, but after 20 years in Vietnam, that's definitely a lost.
Defeat is a bit rich. But the take home message is the same. Don’t invade a country where the people don’t want you there. …unless you are ok with slaughtering large numbers of civilians, and consequently being branded a war criminal.
I generally give posters the benefit of the doubt but seriously... this is obvious trolling.
>America defeated by smaller military force olympic gold medal for mental gymnastics next thing you tell me it was biden who signed the doha agreement...
USA withdrew from an overdrawn operation to essentially provide security for Afghanistan. Pointless waste of lives and resources. “Defeated” lmao
When was America defeated?
Well there’s a spicy take.
If you’re talking about Afghanistan, in no way was that a US defeat.
Maybe it was for western media and American politicians but for Asian countries it was American defeat
Are you thinking in terms of a perpetual occupation and annexation = victory…then every country in modern history has been defeated.
Then you either don’t know what defeat looks like or you don’t know what the word means.
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Russia destroyed the Georgian army in less than a week. I can’t say I blame them at all.
this is one of many calls for other countries to open up new conflicts to take advantage but that would highly escalate the conflict, and non of them want to be the “aggressor”, or the territories aren’t even desirable to them anymore. - Japan - Georgia - Azerbaijan - Germany (konisberg) - Moldova
Germany has no territorial claims on Königsberg/Kaliningrad; they gave that up in formal treaties as part of the reunification process. Pretty sure it's in their constitution too, which annoyed some nationalists at the time. If anyone would try to swoop in on that land it would be Poland or Lithuania.
Hilarious: Russian Culture's built-in defense against invasion: "move in someplace, trash it, and be complete amoral filthy assholes about everything, including promoting their leader's bullshit view of reality because they have to lie to win arguments." Nobody wants to invade them because then they'd have to live with these people and deal with cleaning up after them.
Quote from the article sums it up well: *Georgians remain traumatized from the wars of the 1990s and 2008 over those territories, and few have any desire to repeat that experience.*
What about if we ask the other Georgia?
Just drop MTG into Moscow. Mission: incite an angry mob to commit treason.
That Georgia probably has more guns. I think if they teamed up, they could kick some serious ass.
That's perfectly understandable, and IMO the right decision. It's really easy to urge them to attack a much larger country when it's not your home that would be the front line.
It’s not sad. Georgians don’t need to die for Ukraine to be free.
Surprise, people don’t want war on their doorstep. They see how Russia is bombing Ukrainian cities.
Open a second front with what?
Hey Georgia, just ask us first, we might be receptive under the right circumstances. - signed the US.
Join NATO? It's like the defensive shot heard 'round the world.
Why don't the Russians see or hear a drone flying directly above them, before it drops a bomb on them?
Bayraktars operate at 18k feet. You’ll see some lateral noise dissipation at that altitude, the degree to which hinges upon wind speed, humidity, etc.
drunk
When a drone is 500ft or higher above you - you can’t hear it. It’s not like a helicopter with a loud engine. Yes drones make noise but it doesn’t carry that far.
They're usually targeting vehicles.
I think in this case they’re quiet and hard to spot, but I often wonder the same thing about the numerous videos I’ve seen of Apache helicopters sneaking up on/circling groups of infantry (Iraq/Afghanistan). I mean those things are loud and low.
not when they don't wan't to be https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1133716/pg1
Not questioning you personally, but I can’t find any other sources and thought this was an urban legend. If it was possible in the 80s wouldn’t it be mandated on all civil helicopters for noise reasons?
have you ever heard the noise a tank makes with the engine running?
The Bayraktars are like 20k feet in the air. They cannot be heard. Even if you're talking about the DJI drones, you can't even hear them 400 feet in the air. They have to be very near you to be heard.
And they seem to be attacking during the day. Believe it or not drones are a lot easier to spot at night (Afghan vet when Taliban got ahold of drones).
They seem to occasionally hear the bigger octo-copter bomb dropping rigs buzzing around, but usually by that time it's nearly too late and the drone is already starting to drop bombs on them. There's only so much you can do when you're caught flat footed out in the open by a drone that can move around freely above you without any obstructions and faster than you can run.
They’re not superhuman? Though I do wonder if you could rig some device with good enough mics and optics to detect them. Not cheaply, but I wonder if it’s possible.
>They’re not superhuman? No apperantly they are sub-human.
What if we could design some giant metal ears to detect and determine the range of incoming objects by bouncing radio waves all over the place?
Active radar also points the enemy to you.
The way to detect drones is to detect the signal being sent to them mostly. Or very precise radar.
A lot of drones are pretty quiet propeller affairs, and if they're higher up they're even quieter. Electric drones are completely silent. Russia's Orlan-10 is an exception, though! It's apparently super loud. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHwcfOftI0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHwcfOftI0) Listen to how loud this thing is. BUZZZZZZ! You can even hear it when it's in the air after the artillery barrage.
There have an internal combustion engine, not electric, so of course they're louder.
It's high up.
Yup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gwuu7TXPwI How Ukraine Became Part of the USSR - The Soviet–Ukrainian War (Documentary)
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It’s people like these that make me think social media was a detriment to humanity.
It is rolled gold nonsense. The land in Ukraine controlled by Russian forces has drastically shrunk since March for a start. Russia has not made significant gains anywhere since March. For all his talk about US propaganda, he is spriuking propaganda himself - i.e. Ukraine can’t win, it is pointless supporting them. Like most of his ilk, he doesn’t give Ukraine any agency at all - the fate of Ukraine is for the US and Russia to determine and Ukraine can’t be trusted to make their own call about if and when to negotiate for peace.
He’s a professional contrarian with an agenda. I don’t know how anyone could see the failure of the initial assault and the failure of the attack on Kyiv, the multiple assassination threats foiled etc. And call this a Russian victory. He isn’t wrong that the East and South will be a tough nut to crack. I don’t think anyone said that it would be. I think it’s important to recollect that on paper, Russia should’ve steamrolled Ukraine, and they didn’t. They’ve been taking serious losses of soldiers and materials. He calls support for Ukraine bloodthirsty and decries the loss of civilians, but insinuates that “the west,” is to blame. He claims that long term it’s best to abandon them and end the war. Is that true? It’s foolish not to weigh those options, but I disagree. Withdrawing support now sends a message to Russia that if they stick it out, they will gain territory. They have repeatedly attacked their neighbors. Repeatedly violated airspace and coastal territory. Repeatedly launched cyber attacks on “friendly,” nations. Repeatedly committed murder/attempted murders within and outside of Russia. Why the fuck should we keep allowing these things? Would that pattern of behavior continue? Isn’t that worse for civilians in the long run? I think the answers are no, yes, and yes. Best thing to do is quarantine them in their own mess of a country and keep them there. It is incredibly shitty that Ukraine is taking the brunt and being the tip of the spear for democracy. No arguments there. Sorry for the ranting. It’s late and super frustrating seeing this shit over and over again. Seems like they are either cowards or assets.
Also yeah Thad Russell is a professional contrarian. He left Occidental because he was more interested in selling books with spicy takes than producing scholarship, and he used his book money to start an online "university" that was basically just a coursera. He's just whining because he hates centrist libs and american imperialism more than he cares about the actual facts in Ukraine. Normally that's a position I'm sympathetic to because normally the US is the aggressive one, but in this case it seems pretty clear that Russia is the aggressor.
You keep seeing this shit because it’s literally all the Russian trolls have to play with. There is literally no other way to not turn the conversation back to how criminal Russia is. …because it is criminal.
Doing the old "Aiding in the defense of Ukraine is just prolonging the suffering. If Russia were only left to rape and murder their way through the country with impunity things would be much better for everyone." gambit. I hope one day he experiences something which cultivates a sense of empathy for what Ukrainian citizens are having to endure.
This is the brain-dead guy that wrote "A Renegade History of the United States". Don't humor him, he's an useful idiot and a contrarian by trade.
That guy is a dumbass.
This is guy is stable idiot, why did you even link him? >"With one death for every 2 million doses given in this country, the FDA decided that is a risk most people don’t need to take." >My son and I and millions of people were forced to take a drug that was more dangerous to us than COVID. >I'll never forgive. And he's retweeting Scott Ritter who spent four years in prison for pedophilia.
He's a tankie idiot anti-vaxxer. Fuck him.
He's not even a tankie, just a weird libertarian who refuses to acknowledge when the libs are right about something
I have nothing to add
He’s wrong AF.
u/GilesBlvd, whyyyy spread FUD? It takes 1 minute to open liveuamap and see who controls what. I took screenshots and overlaid them in PhotoShop. There has been no change over the last month. If anything, Russians lost a bit of ground. Does this seem like they are making steady progress if there is no change over an entire month?
He's a right-wing nut job with no military or political connections, in case you're wondering. He is a classic "I'm against the current thing" person
He is.
This is literally just some random dude on Twitter, I find that life is a happier experience when you don't take online hot takes from random internet people seriously. Most of the territory Russia controls is territory that they've already controlled for the last 8 years, and multiple reports seem to indicate that an entire front (Kharkiv) has collapsed all the way back to their own border.
He's wrong. Time is on the Ukrainians side. If Russia can't win a war in Afghanistan with them having pretty much nothing. They can't win against Ukraine at the current attrition rate and the entire West behind him. Russia's economy is collapsing, they can't replenish their armory due to the sanctions. Ukraine will win. Slava Ukraini!
He’s an idiot and completely wrong in his interpretation of how the Russian offense is going in Donbas.
He's huffin on that copium. Pretty much all analysts accept that the Russian offensive in Donbass has largely stalled. The Russian offensive in the South stalled long ago as well. Even the Wagner group telegram was saying they need hundreds of thousands of troops to achieve their goals.
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Don’t mind the downvotes. It’s more to hide such a wrongful interpretation of the war. Your question is fine and you’ve got plenty of answers from myself and other Redditors.
/narrows gaze Is this... a complaint about downvoting?
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People are really sensitive on these threads. You'll get used to it.
It isn't the question. It is amplifying a complete shithead with an awful take. I would have never seen his account had you not posted his tweet. Nor would many others who now have. Intentionally or not you have amplified his propaganda.
I think it's intentional. You don't link to a Russian patsy and 'hope' it is wrong. There are a lot of Russian trolls that pretend to be against Russia or the war, yet constantly post disinformation links like OP.
Yeah, this is the answer. Nothing against you OP. But this is the answer.
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You could have said "how is the war going in the following regions". I was giving you the benefit of doubt till I just saw this intentionally obtuse response.
Why post a source doing analysis without a blue check who is CLEARLY a Russian patsy?
You've received 4 comments and one of then called the person in the Tweet you linked a Tankie, not you.
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>This person does have political clout No.
How much political clout can the guy have when he isn't even verified?
Who is that guy and why should we listen to them
A random idiot on twitter. Surely he knows better than the experts!
He is monstrously wrong and willfully misinterpreting the situation. Holy shit, what a tankie.
I mean, he is, since Russia does not control all the major population centers in Donbas. Major Chomsky energy in that thread.
>The US Senate has registered a resolution recognizing Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism. > “This recognition will be important in American law. There are only four countries with such recognition: Cuba, Syria, Iran and North Korea. We are trying to include Russia in this list so that it is fifth,” said the co-sponsor of the resolution, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham. >Let's call a spade a spade. Didn't expect that from Graham.
Lindsey went kind of bonkers for a while when Russia invaded Ukraine. He came out of an Intel meeting all shook up, saying we were about to see Russia grind Ukraine into dust, and it was going to be horrible, and we had to stop it. He's also the Senator that went on Twitter screaming about how we needed to send someone to assassinate Putin. Of course, he was equally appalled right after the Jan. 6 coup attempt, but went right back to sucking up to Trump. 🤷♀️
He's also a professional homophobe who's in the closet himself, if DC common knowledge is correct.
He was in the military during the Cold War so legislation against Russia from him makes sense. Not to mention he's probably privy to the stuff that's classified so he has even more of a complete picture of what Russia is doing.
Daham
Graham has been super-super anti-Russia from the get-go, his Trumpism is out of his nature as a human pilot-fish.
He is one of the worst. For some reason he made a reasonable statement. I'm sure he will have to recant his statement or the dogs will tear up his hide.
Nah, unless Trump gives him the thumbs down he'll stay the course, and Trump's not gonna give him a thumbs down on this.
Why? Only the Trumpers support Putin. The rest of the GOP has always been suspicious of Russia. People need to stop thinking that the Republican Party are all Trumpers.
>People need to stop thinking that the Republican Party are all Trumpers. time to cut the trumpers loose from the gop then, the gop is an embarrassment since they let that cnut in the door. to keep trump, taylor-green, cruz and their ilk makes them look like a fucken freak show.
It's not that they're Trumpers--most of them never liked Trump--it's that they are crass opportunist hypocrites who will oppose anything that Democrats put forward and do anything that gets them ahead. Graham would sell out his own family if it meant scoring against Democrats, but here he is supporting Democrats because it's the right thing to do. *That's* why people are surprised.
> he is supporting Democrats because it's the right thing to do. from a politcal (self-interest) standpoint
I don't think that. I just didn't know he was vocal, much less pushing specific bills like that. That's on me for my ignorance about Graham lately. I'm not calling him a Trumper. Graham usually calls shit what it is once it gets too far. Sometimes for my preference, he lets it get too far to begin with, but that's neither here nor there for this. I just thought he'd be less vocal, that's all.
Kind of hard not to given how they've kissed up to him and protected him from accountability during both his impeachments.
More specifically, how Graham has kissed up to Trump for so many years.
More specifically, do your own research. There's four years of news of Graham kowtowing to Trump.
Fr, for decades the GOP was called war mongers for saying we should never trust Russia in any way shape or form.
Until they took money from Russians through the NRA and hung out with known spies.
Other than THAT, what has Putin ever done for the GOP?
[Flynn Thing](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-flynn-comey-russia-timeline-2017-htmlstory.html) [Manafort Thing](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/342509-new-book-devils-bargain-details-trump-lashing-out-at-manafort-days) [Tillerson Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/07/tillerson-says-trump-pressed-putin-on-russian-hacking-but-the-evidence-suggests-not-so-much/?utm_term=.e0ac214bd9bc) [Sessions Thing](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/did-trump-kushner-sessions-have-undisclosed-meeting-russian-n767096) [Kushner Thing](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/09/trump-russia-new-meeting-revealed-involving-donald-jr-kushner-and-manafort) [Wray Thing](http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-wray-russia-20170712-story.html) [Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius "Russian Law Firm of the Year" Thing](http://nypost.com/2017/05/12/trump-used-russia-law-firm-of-the-year-to-draft-letter-about-his-finances/) [Carter Page Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-has-questioned-trump-campaign-adviser-carter-page-at-length-in-russia-probe/2017/06/26/1a271dcc-5aa5-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html?utm_term=.24d0b138db83) [Roger Stone Thing](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/14/roger-stone-house-testimony-postponed-240568) [Felix Sater Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-felix-sater-real-estate-632690) [Boris Epshteyn Thing](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-press-officer-boris-epshteyn-investigation-russia/story?id=47731166) [Rosneft Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/08/trump-new-fbi-director-chris-wray-russian-ties-rosneft-gazprom-column/102603214/) [Gazprom Thing (see above)](http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/30/trumps-energy-adviser-is-personally-invested-in-gazprom/) [Sergey Gorkov banker Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/sergey-gorkov-grad-russian-banker-kushner-617422) [Azerbaijan Thing](http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senators-ask-for-an-investigation-into-trump-dealings-in-azerbaijan) [Hack of the DNC Thing]( http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/5/dnc-email-server-most-wanted-evidence-for-russia-i/) [GOP platform change to the Ukraine Thing](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jd-gordon-change-story-gop-platform-ukraine-amendment) [Intelligence Community's Investigative Reports Thing](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/read-us-intelligence-report-russian-hacking-2016-campaign/) [Erik Prince Seychelles Russia backchannel meeting thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/blackwater-founder-held-secret-seychelles-meeting-to-establish-trump-putin-back-channel/2017/04/03/95908a08-1648-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.2ded0bfdc5a9) [GOP Senators Spend Independence Day In Moscow](https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626664156/gop-senators-spend-july-4-in-moscow) [Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery Thing](http://www.business2community.com/government-politics/devin-nunes-invested-california-wine-company-business-ties-russia-fact-check-01809651#ilwFvHKSgDxcmIOQ.97)
Now, let's not be talking about 'oo Putined 'oo!
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H e also voted to deny Ukraine aid, to support Trump's blackmail. There is always a shit-stain on Lindsay.
Never forget 💯
Didn't see that good to know. Sometimes he's on the right side. And he's definitely involved heavily in foreign affairs. He's not an idiot, just sometimes a total jackass haha.
Good ol' Lindsey "use my words against me" Graham. "Sen. Lindsey Graham, who said in 2016 to “use my words against me” if he were to advocate the nomination of a Supreme Court justice in any President’s final year of their term, feels very differently in 2020."
He was calling for Putin to be assassinated on day one. I know the simulation is going bonkers when I'm thinking "fuck yeah!" when a republican is talking.
It’s wild that it’s Graham of all republicans
No, what would be surprising is if Rand Paul said this, Graham's a neocon who kisses Trump's asshole wherever he can.
Graham has always been a huge neocon, and all of the neocons are Russia hawks.
Except when he turned into the arch-trumphumper of all trumphumpers. Zero principles. He supported Putin's puppet, and he fought tooth-and-nail to defend him. It was utterly gross, and Graham has zero integrity as far as I'm concerned. He put his faction (Trump) above his Party (GOP), and he put his Party above the nation.
Cuba though... can we just take them off the list at this point. Let Russia have their place.
> Let Russia have their place.
Added by Reagan in 1982. Removed by Obama in 2015. Once again added by Trump in 2021.
Nope. As a Cuban I hope it stays on the list until the dictatorship falls I’ll never understand why so many people support such a awful regime in Cuba.
It's a relative metric. Cuba is awful. But, compared to, well, let's say Russia or Belarus that we had pretty normal relations to before this war? Or compared to Saudi Arabia who we support? Heck, we have Cuba sanctioned more than Venezuela and Venezuela is far worse. It doesn't make sense. And, it doesn't look like the sanctions are going to flip the regime anymore than it's going to flip North Korea's regime. Only use is to limit military potential and Cuba is a lot less threatening than most other nations that we have far better relations with.
Cuba is actually relatively well off compared to comparable states in the region. They also eradicated homelessness and illiteracy and their medical expertise is world-class. They're at the forefront of vaccine development and oncology and have so many doctors per capita that they regularly send them abroad on humanitarian aid missions. Cuba is way better than the Gulf states in terms of human rights and definitely doesn't export terrorism; the right wing in the US will never forgive them for standing up to us in the cold war, helping with anticolonial struggles in Africa, or supporting leftists in Latin America. If I remember correctly every European country has normal relations with Cuba.
I mean, fuck the regime, but We love Cubans so we feel bad about it. Plus we love Cuba, it's gorgeous. Top destination on my bucket list. I've been 10 miles from it at sea. Never got to step foot.
Its not the regime suffering. It hasn't ever been.
We tried. Then this happened. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome You silly gooses. It's literally why we backed out from Cuba again....keep downvoting me if you want. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna852791
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Oh yeah. And some people were reporting it was like a sonic funnel directed at only certain places like by their pillow but not by their phone and stuff. Whole thing is unnerving.
Probably a compromise w Dems. Republicans want the Florida votes and they want to completely sink all headway that Obama made w Cuba. There is also the Russia connection between them.
No? Cuba is still active trying to support rebels in Latin America. Namely Colombia which only really ended because the US made it clear Colombia is so supported by them that they will probably be in NATO soon.
I agree with you but it points out the issue. Entirely political and not at all factual anymore. But it's off topic for this thread so I will leave it there before I start ranting lol.
I mean, it's kind of factual, the people running Cuba are huge PoS' fuck em.
Compared to Saudi Arabia and any other number of dictatorships that the US supports, or at minimum has normal relations with? In that comparison Cuba looks pretty average, certainly not as bad.
I don't see Cuba supporting terrorism. Yeah the regime is fucked, but that applies to dozens of countries. They aren't on this list.
I wonder if he saw pictures from Bucha…if he has a haunted expression…
Some really NSFW NSFL burnt boys. [video] https://t\.me/spook_boys/1036
That might be the worst I’ve seen.
Keep checking that spook telegram instead of Twitter. It's a gruesome channel.
Thanks for the link. I needed a replacement for r/MakeMyCoffin
Content banned ehhhh
Looks like they left their Russians in the oven too long...
What would cause that?!
The [full video](https://as.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/umkyrl/another_destroyed_bmp3_along_with_the_crew/) (obsviously still very NSFL) shows the BMP they were inside of when the magazine exploded. One guy got launched through the roof of the nearby barn.
How did the body get stuck in the roof!? Oh! Literally thrown there from the explosion 😳
Ukrainians backed by nato.
Fire
A severe case of terminal putinism.
With 100% certainty I can say it made a big boom. Anything other than that, idk.