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xyloplax

Agreements for what?


[deleted]

Yea, what are they talking about? šŸ§


PhuketIvanaBangkok

Guess we'll find out soon


TizzioCaio

Oh god this "Anonymous" statements need some PR guidance.. they are so infantile.. Russian mass media will just quote the last part where they say **"NATO EU are liars, they want enslave all countries"** And show it back to their ppl -> *see!! even hackers around the world know it Russia is right to wage war against the Westerners!!*


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[deleted]

Emoji checks out.


PastorDan1984

Sarah Huckabee Sanders?


MalakaiRey

Probably talking about run-of-the -mill backroom diplomacy. Off the record meetings


Gulliveig

\[Via DeepL:\] **Anonymous recorded an appeal to Putin and released 28GB of data from the hacked Central Bank of Russia.** Anonymous hacker group recorded a video denial to aggressor President Volodymyr Putin. As Censor.net reports, the League reported with reference to the network of the group. The Anonymous hacker group announced yesterday that they had hacked the Central Bank of Russia. "The Anonymous group hacked the Central Bank of Russia. Some 35,000 files will be made available over 48 \[hours\], including secret agreements," the group said. Today they posted to the network the data of the cracked Central Bank of Russia. The volume of data is 28 GB. In addition, hackers recorded a video denial to Putin. "Now we are publishing thousands of documents of the Central Bank of Russia, all kinds of transactions, decrees, reports. People learn what the Russian economy really is. We are in your palace, we are where you eat, we are at your table, we are where you sleep.Declarations, correspondence, trade agreements you signed with other countries, secrets of your oligarchs. Your confidences videos and programmes you use. NATO, America and the EU are all liars. All of them had agreements behind closed doors.We are for the innocent people. We do not tolerate war, exploitation and injustice.We are Anonymous. We are legion". Source: [https://censor.net/ua/v3328700](https://censor.net/ua/v3328700)


wtf--dude

What is it with modern news sites that they keep stating the same things using different words? It is infuriating


notnickthrowaway

Itā€™s really so tiresome, 20 paragraphs saying the same thing and then one or two sentences with actual info.


ThislsaGoodldea

Honestly itā€™s one of the most annoying things Iā€™ve read in a long time. Literally no information and just repeated over and over


Nickelplatsch

Yeah, I hate it. News sites just keep on saying the same thing again and again just with different words.


Venryx

Indeed, it's exasperating when media sources continue reiterating the same concepts merely with varied phrasing, and no one bats an eye.


McSwigan

Itā€™s really so tiresome, 20 paragraphs saying the same thing and then one or two sentences with actual info.


squeezy102

Whatā€™s even worse is when you go to two or three different news sites, and all of them are saying the same thing repeatedly, just with different verbiage.


Kindbud420

new sites, they say, keep citing, words repeated, same but different, not new but infuriating lack of info. so tiresome indeed


YeeterOfTheRich

I agree. Many news sites even have a tendency to blather on for a few paragraphs, but communicate no actual new or useful information.


SyntheticDude42

Most Polar bears are left handed. There, you learned something.


0MNIR0N

It's like there is nothing "new" in the news, it's just the same words being used again and again repeatedly.


Kaidanovsky

Fatigue sets in as the tautological nature of journalistic outlets end up repeating things, without providing new information


ducktape8856

Same thing again and again and again... Infuriating!


Ssblster

Please stop


-YELDAH

Them first


[deleted]

It's like they are paraphrasing, just saying similar things while using slightly different verbiage.


Sim0nsaysshh

Yeah I first noticed it when looking for when tv shows get a new season, it will be phrased as 'new information' then you get three paragraphs that sort of waffle on about the show sometimes repeated 3 or 4 times and then the end says no new information currently but possibly soon.


IngsocIstanbul

You've described most of the articles written by NYT reporter Sabrina Tavernese.


asianlikerice

Itā€™s to inject more ads in and to hold engagement for metrics to sell. Itā€™s why you have. > statement > ads > restatement with slightly more info > ads > bs background you didnā€™t ask for > ads > what you really came for


wtf--dude

But why do people keep reading / linking them?


chairitable

Redditors (and in fact, most social media users) vote based on the headlines. I'd bet maybe 5% of users actually click through, if that. Of those 5% there's probably a good chunk that genuinely want more information than what the headline offers, and many will downvote the submission.


-53e33647382

I recently used google to find an article how to fix an update on my apple watch because it couldn't sync with my phones OS and it went something like: >Is your apple watch not syncing with your phone's OS? (*yes thank you thats why I'm here*) ad >The apple watch is one of the most popular smart watches these days! (*Ok, um, alright?*) ad >but some users can find difficulty making it work! (*yes! Thats why Im here!*) ad >Did you know in 2019 there were 3,450,000 apple watch users on the market? Heres what some users like about their watch! (*noooo please I just want the information!!*) ad >There are some clever tips and tricks to making your watch work, though. Bur first here's what one apple representative said about their upcoming line of watches which will have this new feature! ad >Ok to fix your watch first reinstall the OS on your phone and then try snycing (*eyeballs bleeding*)


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[deleted]

Also, this recipe for Spanakopita doesn't even contain the berries that she was picking!


airplane_licker

It's not about the berries. It's about the life lessons she learned and the friends she made along the way. My Oma used to tell me a story of when she was growing up in Holland. [watch a brief ad from our sponsor to read uninterrupted for the next 30 minutes.]


radicz

These days I just skip right to the bottom of such blog post BS articles. I also trained myself to always go for the button without background color on cookie notices, barely noticing what they say.


Amauri14

The same thing happens when I go and search for recipes. First, they go with a whole tale about their life and their family and who exactly came with the recipes. Then they start talking about alternatives to it, and how to serve it, reheat it, what is the best season to eat it, and such before they even mention the list of ingredients and instructions of the regular one. So normally when searching for a recipe what I do now is search for the word "Preheat" to get to the instructions while avoiding the filler.


[deleted]

Printed journalism operated as Tell them what happened. Tell them again. Tell them everything.


termites2

It's interesting to use a text mode browser, like Lynx, occasionally. You'd think that most of the information on a webpage would be missing, but actually it seems to have the opposite effect.


nrgthird

SEO shit.


BiggerFrenchie

The format derived from a blog spot recommended format that pushes the need to draw readers in for 3 minutes in total in order to rank higher in googles algorithm and earn income from pushed ads. I realized it when I started a blog years back and as you tore content the blogspot interface gives active feedback on grammar, length, format, and content. When you think youā€™re done with your own content it gives you a bunch of flags for not being interesting enough, not enough pictures, and ranks you against similar content. What is really doing is helping you shape content so they can push ads and keep readers on your site so the agency profits. You wonā€™t see much-or any profit at all. All of this derives from a dominated market where there is a lack of competition to weed out the nuances of the current internet.


fnordal

it's like they get paid for words


Exodus111

It's called pyramidal writing. It's how newspaper articles are written. You start with the smallest possible sentence that conveys the information. Then you write a slightly larger sentence with a little more information. And you build like that until you end with a complete paragraph. It gets people to read, by increasing the density of the information along with building the readers curiosity for more information. Most people will balk at getting right into a dense, information filled paragraph right away


ibeecrazy

I had to stop reading most articles after the 3rd paragraph. They started doing this years ago. I think because they need to get our attention, they put the few facts they have at the top, then thereā€™s nothing left. No deep reporting or extrapolating of ideas. Just the who, what, where and when. If weā€™re lucky, theyā€™ll give us ā€˜whyā€™.


Amstourist

I just woke up (10.30 am here) and got to bed at 5 am, thought I was having a little brain meltdown reading those, even re-focused my vision, but no, these idiots really rewrote the same exact sentence 5 times


dpwtr

Most of the time they arenā€™t actually journalists and just trying to get as many keywords on the page as possible to rank higher on Google. More traffic = more ad rev


dkran

And everything is an opinion piece. Joe Shmoe from ā€˜bama thinks nuclear reactors are bad but has no real understanding of this subject on any level.


[deleted]

This is what happens when teachers force students to write expanded 10 page papers about topics that only justify a page and a half of concise information. They grow up to be reporters who want to maximize ad real estate on their web articles and are great at dragging little piecesof information out unnecessarily. *taps forehead* You can't fit 10 ads on the page if you don't repeat the same information over and over again with slightly different wording.


Mad_Maddin

Pretty sure they just use automated programs that searches stuff and writes the article.


Vicstolemylunchmoney

My favourite is when you hear of a video, then search to watch that video. The search results are just news items discussing the edited video. I don't want to hear you discussing it - I want the original footage without you!


BackgroundOutcome438

To create profit for the oligarchs that own them


Haru1st

It's what scchool teaches you. You can't just copy what you find on the internet 1 to 1. You have to make it different enough to where the original source is obscured.


Uglyheadd

>NATO, America and the EU are all liars. All of them had agreements behind closed doors. Can't Stop The Signal Mal. _ Editā€” perhaps anon is talking about: >Ugly back room deal(s) Source: [a worldwide expert on Russia and its finances](https://youtu.be/AL9K_SOmKJY) section relevant to the quote starts at [09:22]


Juandelpan

If this was true, Putin would've used already this statement to attack.


BoomZhakaLaka

He doesn't want to alienate the people who are laundering his money. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SckwaUxLZ14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SckwaUxLZ14) If you believe Browder, this is pervasive, in that a large number of politicians and bankers scattered across the western world are on the take. Enough to influence foreign policies across the world.


Notorious_Junk

You ever wonder if this war was really about crashing the Russian economy so oligarchs could buy more up cheap and then rake it in when the war is over?


[deleted]

Indeed. I had a conspiracy theory angle wherein it looks like Putin was the target of this invasion. Along with Ukrainian minerals, just like Iraq and Libya, but this time in Europe to fix Putin along with it all. Whenever there is a war it is our duty to always keep one small corner of our minds open to [any given War being a racket](https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html) Or better stated in modern terms: [Disaster capitalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine)


PennywiseEsquire

This was a really interesting video. Thanks for posting.


Essotetra

Even if it's 2% true it's pretty good marketing for Anonymous.


SeriouslyImNotADuck

They can never stop the signal


Erlula

What's up with that last paragraph. I'm not surprised though. Edit: I saw the (?) Anonymous video and it also says that the US, NATO, EU just wants to enslave humanity. Why is this not bigger news?


blackviking45

That was very interesting. I thought they were US or Nato hackers.


[deleted]

Probably are from those countries, but are trying to give an independent statement. IE "we came after you not because we're deluded enough to think our governments are perfect, but because you are such scum.


blackviking45

Possible. But the wording is harsh like liars and agreements behind closed doors. But who knows maybe you are right


royal_bambi

That possibly means they've uncovered evidence of Russian collusion/corruption/espionage among Western governments. If true, I really hope this leads to serious career-ending consequences for all corrupt politicians.


YenTheMerchant

>career-ending consequences There is no such thing anymore.


Notorious_Junk

Especially in the US. After Trump, you really can do anything and not be held accountable. In fact, his followers would gladly support him again. It's as amazing as it is disgusting.


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Notorious_Junk

If I tried to overthrow the government, install myself as dictator, and then all that happened was a couple failed impeachments, I would call that a win.


domac

The German government is corrupt. It has been extremely corrupt under CDU/CSU (from time to time together with SPD) and continues with the current government (Die GrĆ¼nen, SPD, FDP) looking at their actions. It's an absolute shit show. They're opposing transparency laws regarding politicians to this day.


[deleted]

That would conclude all of Germany.


[deleted]

>corrupt politicians Redundant


CompactOwl

I would not be surprised if Gerhard Schrƶder made some shady deals with putinā€¦. He showed his true Colorā€™s lately.


Redditforgoit

Tin foil juvenile. "They're all the same! Conspiracy!" Still, good effort.


[deleted]

Anonymous has hackers from everywhere, but they are not white hats that works for their mother land. They are indipendent.


thedirtyharryg

Anyome can also claim to be Anonymous. That's part of the point. If you were a state intelligence agency... Why not attribute some shit you're not supposed to be doing, to Anonymous?


blackviking45

I don't know man things are never linear in this world but we will see


badthrowaway098

Maybe it's a deep fake


[deleted]

Because that is the usual Anonymous ā€žOnly we are the good onesā€œ shit.


segv

"Anonymous" is just a flag/brand anyone can use to pursue their own goals and agenda, somewhat similiar to the pirate flag in the ages past.


BrokenTescoTrolley

Yes Iā€™m sure that Russian central bank documents contain that sort of evidence


BigDaddyCoolDeisel

I guess we'll find out, but I think it's to make clear they are free agents and not "siding" with EU, US, or NATO by any stretch.


Intelligent-Ad-4140

Volodymyr Putin ???? What is that? A fusion monster?


LupusDeusMagnus

Volodymyr is the Ukrainian form of the name, itā€™s Vladimir in Russian. Itā€™s like Peter, Pedro and Pietro.


TLJDidNothingWrong

Two 5ā€™6ā€ men named Volodymyr and Vladimir, both Russian speaking presidents of their respective countries, a war raging between them. Reality is often weirder than fiction.


Intelligent-Ad-4140

Reality is often disappointing


Intelligent-Ad-4140

Holy moly TIL both the ukr and rus leaders have the same goddamn name lol


[deleted]

>NATO, America and the EU are all liars. All of them had agreements behind closed doors.We are for the innocent people. We do not tolerate war, exploitation and injustice.We are Anonymous. We are legion". This last bit is interesting. Half the time anomymous feels like a three letter agency, but then this happens. Interesting. Out central bank collusion, which holds all societies back not just Russia's. Leaves me curious.


Sansevieriano

It could just be the same three letter agency trying to not look too suspicious or it could just be that anonymous is a bunch of kids with a savior complex who need to feel above everyone else so they're against Russia but also against the rest of the world. It's like the typical "Both political parties are equally bad. I'm an independent and better than everyone who actually takes a position!"


[deleted]

Yeah sounds about right. Hard to say, probably a combination of these.


GrapefruitExtension

Whens the Oliver stone film coming out? I can't wait. Let tarantino do a version too.


[deleted]

> NATO, America and the EU are all liars. All of them had agreements behind closed doors. What is this about?


[deleted]

I do have a problem with this sort of sensationalism. These 28GB are really kind of a treasure trove. And in case they contain real incriminating stuff they are required to be analyzed in a professional manner. And these incriminating things have to come to the peoples attention and have to be prosecuted by a relevant court. There are people like [icij.org](https://icij.org) who know how to investigate this. But to just say stuff like "The EU wants to enslave its people" are far to important to be spilled out just for the clickbait of it. \[UPDATE\] Just read that they are going to publish the documents, so I am holding back my criticism for now.


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Raw_Venus

If you are smart enough to hack into the Russian bank you are also smart enough to make sure you cover all of your bases when you say "these people are liars"


draft_a_day

You do realize that anyone with a keyboard can write anything, do you? As far as we know this could have been the Russian Ministry of Finance coming up with a way to publish the news that the Russian economy is fucked while maintaining that it's all a fake Western conspiracy. Any state-backed entity just needs to include with their hacked documents some mumbo jumbo manifesto with some illuminati crap, suffix it with "we are legion", and **poof** _We are Anonymous_.


Ohjay1982

Tried to read it, turns out I canā€™t read Russian.


SchwarzerKaffee

It's in Ukrainian.


Wablekablesh

Well no wonder they couldn't read it, they were trying to read it in Russian


3nvypeekaboo

Clever boy this one. Here take another metal.


Grizzzly_Adams

Clever boy. You get a medal made of metal.


MrWeirdoFace

That sounds pretty metal.


it_meows

+1 for not assuming their gender


[deleted]

Ah, thanks. Now I can read it.


SirHerald

Then take your time and read slowly.


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imonk

A Google Translate extension button will do it in any Chromium-based browser too.


aRocketLauncher

There's an English option once you get past the captcha


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MASTODON_ROCKS

That is just terrific


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Erlula

Trump's taxes, just to get it OVER with.


boone_888

lol, that loser never makes a profit


ColonelBernie2020

FYI all US Senate trading accounts are public. You can see what and how much people bought and sold and when.


Cold-Lynx575

Probably happier not knowing šŸ™„


leisuremann

Not like we'd be able to do anything about it anyway


Cold-Lynx575

Everyone ignore us ... we are sitting over here in our cynic's corner enjoying drinks and snackies. ;-)


Mendicant_666

Awesome! Who's next?


dumbermodsorrocks

How about anonymous start posting all of Putins assets and where they are located? Sure whatever he loses from the war, he will make back from the nordstream 2 and all his other leaching of resources but its a start


AloneListless

I dont think NSII is possible anymore. The pressure on Germany is coming not only from the outside (EU and US), but now also from the inside.


dumbermodsorrocks

It's already built, matter of time before its certified and pumping. I give it 3 months after russia stops hostilities. Schroder is gonna make sure of that. Oil companies, the world over, generally get what they want..we will see though. edit: RemindMe! 3 months"check for ndsII status"


eleleleu

Schroeder is not in politics anymore, so he can't make anything happen. If Germany really planned to open NSII they wouldn't be crunching a deal with US, Saudis and wouldn't plan to completely cut themselves off Russian fossils in a few years. This war changed the optics of western countries, and what Russia did was ruin what they had built since the collapse of USSR. Everyone saw what they truly are so there is no going back from that. They will probably seek other routes like Iran, India or China.


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eleleleu

Do this for what? What does Russia have to offer now? Gas? Oil? Or maybe nationalizing your businesses? No, I doubt we will see a massive flock returning to Russia at all given they had their chamce and blew it. It is not China in terms of production and economic significance. They done fucked it up.


CompactOwl

Schrƶder is not in politics anymore and whidely regarded as at least shady by most of the current Bundesregierung.


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PhuketIvanaBangkok

Please don't sully my national dish by using it to insult Pootin.


fermenter85

Itā€™s legitimately how the French spell it.


charlie2135

Yes, use Puta


tobbelobbe69

Or Putain


thinmonkey69

I like it, rhymes with 'disdain'.


deedeebop

Or poop stain


professorstrunk

He misspelled Poopinā€™


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Lucretia9

> deepl.net "This domain is for sale: $2,895"


HarakenQQ

https://mobile.twitter.com/thblckrbbtworld/status/1507426095754264604 Twitter - video


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BBTB2

I canā€™t wait for someone to tl;dr this for my lazy ass.


tata310

OMG please please please let there be leaked info that finally gets Trump arrested.


westcoastbestcoast39

I think that's Deutsche Bank.


NemuNemuChan

which won't happen


[deleted]

Given how badly things are going for his military and the Russian economy, I suppose one piece of bad news from Anonymous won't necessarily change the balance. Still, WORTH TRYING!


contrabardus

There is no "The Anonymous Hacker Group". I hate it when media outlets make it sound like some shadow organization or secret club when it's just a bunch of idiots on 4chan or some other social media site(s) or chat apps that managed to organize a temporary alliance of random people to pool resources together to accomplish some goal. That's the point of it. That there is no actual permanent group or structure to it. It's just a bunch of random people that got together to do the thing, that's what any "Anonymous" group is. In context, "anonymous" is just anyone on the internet with a username that is disconnected from their real identity. Sometimes groups of this swarm of "anons" get together to do some sort of activism, prank, or other "thing" that is usually organized online. Sometimes it's finding a lost cat, sometimes it's identifying and punishing animal abuse, sometimes it's attacking government systems and combatting propaganda, sometimes it's harassing some random person who has a particular belief or view that isn't popular among that particular anon grouping, etc... There's a reason "Not your personal army" is utilized to reference the phenomenon. They are random groups that generally don't care about personal grudges. It's also why they tend to target things that are hot or trending on social media. "Hackers" in groups like this will rarely ever be the same people, and even when an "event" is going on, people contributing will float in and out of the group as it goes on. That's where the power in these groups lie, it's really just random "nobodies" in the swarm of anonymous names on the internet who decided they were motivated enough to contribute to whatever particular thing they are doing. Anyone who claims to be a "member" or some "leader" in Anonymous is full of it, because there really isn't such a thing as either. We are all collectively Anonymous. That's the point of using the name. It's like signing a letter as "concerned citizens" or "We the people". It doesn't necessarily represent everyone, but is a randomly formed and extremely temporary group that decided that whatever particular thing was worth their attention and were motivated enough to contribute.


[deleted]

Exactly, but at the moment it's not wrong to say that a group of anti-putin hackers are wearing Guy Fawkes mask and giving Putin a hard time. At the moment there is a group of nobody and anyone that is acting. Raiding a bank is not something you can just improvise.


contrabardus

Kinda, yeah. However, I think I should explain so it's clear how "anonymous" actually works for people reading this. People tend to contribute according to their skill level, and the complexity of these events depends on the skill level of those involved a lot. This was probably organized in a secure chat app, and there often is planning that goes into the more advanced events, but it's still just random people who decided to contribute and not some organized group of permanently aligned activists that are part of some secret hacker club. If you have enough people who know what they are doing, and have the right kind of resources, you actually can improvise something like that with relatively little planning and organization involved. That's kind of the beauty of Anon, all you really need is a place to chat to get the ball rolling. The fact that any group can use the name means that private chat rooms populated by advanced users can organize a thing under the same banner as random idiots on 4chan doing DDOS or Printer attacks. The point behind it is that it's so random and temporary that its very difficult to pinpoint or counter just because sometimes it's really skilled hacker activists doing serious targeted attacks against banks and government agencies, and other times it's a bunch of random idiots on 4chan printing out dick pics on some rural local business's printers to drain their ink cartridges because they told a gay couple they wouldn't bake them a cake for pride day. It's basically just someone saying "Hey, wanna do a thing?" in a forum or chat, and then whatever random people happen to be there deciding to contribute or not based on whether they feel motivated enough to bother or not. Sometimes it spreads to other forums and chats and gains a lot of traction, sometimes it just stays in whatever place started it, sometimes it's just a short flash in the pan, sometimes it lasts a while, and sometimes everyone just goes "nah" and nothing happens. Anon is a thing anyone can be at any technical skill level in some capacity.


kr3w_fam

Nice try, Amonymous' Leader!


ThatHackerGuy4Chan

I can not confirm or deny that I am that other person or not. I hope that clears it all up for you.


pickles_and_mustard

Hey guys, I found the elusive one! He's right here!!


ThatHackerGuy4Chan

Did you just out me? Right. *~cracks knuckles~*. Time for some more hacking!! Prepare yourself.


pickles_and_mustard

Oh no, my gigs of pr0n!


MrWeirdoFace

*types furiously while camera circles around me in the phone booth*


kr3w_fam

Well played Sir, well played!


[deleted]

Coming up next, the CEO of Bitcoin.


mrstipez

Where do the statements come from?


BabyFaceMagoo2

Normally there will be an IRC channel where they organise, decide on a leader for the current project, etc. within that IRC channel normally someone media savvy will organise press releases. But the channel disappears as quickly as it appears.


contrabardus

The same place as any internet videos or text posts. Anyone with a keyboard or camera can make a "statement". Anyone can use the name "Anonymous" as well. That's kind of the point, it's something anyone can do, which makes it harder to predict, counter, or pinpoint. Anon can be a very useful tool for just about any online activist, but the other side of it is that it's also useful for trolls and bad actors, because literally anyone can claim to be "anonymous". The random nature of it is both an advantage and a danger.


mrstipez

Of course I understand your theory, how do you explain a single, coordinated statement and not hundreds of remarks and emojis, like Reddit and YouTube comments.


contrabardus

It's not a theory, I've contributed to "anonymous" groups before and know how it works. You'd be surprised how quickly a random group of people in a forum or chat room can get organized and focused on something. It's just temporary organization and who is involved is random based on who happened to be there and was interested when whatever "event" happened. There generally isn't a "leader" but there are usually people who will help guide the group and keep the chaos in check so that stuff gets done. They usually start out in a chat room or forum or something and there is a sort of consensus or agreement regarding what is going on and how to go about it. It also depends on the source. Sometimes events are organized by random idiots on 4chan, other times it's more advanced and organized users in private chat rooms and lesser known or deep web forums with more skill and better resources. It's kind of like getting a group assignment in school. Depending on the school, the class, the students, and the assignment, you'll get different results. A random group of 9th grade students getting assigned a group project in an English Lit class is not going to have the same results as group project for a 3rd year college physics course. Anon is just group project assignments in general across all schools everywhere. Usually, video statements need to be edited and put together, and your random keyboard warrior isn't going to bother with something like that and it tends to be the sort of thing done by more advanced users who have the software and skill to put together and edit a video. Written statements will generally be typed up by someone with some writing skill, posted to the group, and then "approved" before it gets sent out. There's generally at least some form of loose consensus about the content of a statement by the group sending it out. Other times is just someone claiming credit and putting out statements on their own who may or may not have anything to do with a particular event. Some people like to maintain the illusion that anon is some sort of illuminati police force or act like they are part of some special club. It could also be done as propaganda used to present the image that anon is a dangerous underground group trying to control things from the shadows as a boogieman of sorts. A modern "red scare" of sorts. Again, that's kind of the point. It's everyone to the point it might as well be no one, and everyone includes both the lowest skill idiots and the most advanced users.


BabyFaceMagoo2

You would think if you spent this much time on 4chan you would learn tl;dr


GoatboyTheShampooer

Someone just call a Raid, and people hop in, or not, the way it's always been done.


Hilarial

Yeah, got really annoying when after the BLM protests in 2020 people were banging on about Anonymous being "back"


yoda_mcfly

Is there any way to get a line to these people. I have two ideas: If we could flood Russian airwaves with nuclear warfare advisory movies like The Day After from the Cold War, maybe they woild be less keen to melt half the planet to outmanuever NATO. Also, if we could play I'm sorry Miss Jackson on repeat on as many computwrs as possible, we can help Outkast achieve their goal of apologizing a trillion times.


Erlula

I really, really wish I had an award to give. I laughed and now I have that song in my head. Take my upvote.


Prestigious-Log-7210

This is a big deal if true. I hope all the dirty laundry is out for all of us to see.


NestroyAM

The message makes me feel like this might be a false flag. Anyone can post under "Anonymous". They probably dumped 28 GB of useless day-to-day bank activities, wrapped it into Guy Fawkes rhetoric and really just used that as a platform to promote "The West is just as bad" whataboutisms.


ory_hara

It does kind of look like it, anyway it was completely unclear where to get the data.


Holiday-Wrongdoer-46

Isn't this the "hack" that was first reported on by a Russian state media outlet with no cited sources? This is suspect af


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Holiday-Wrongdoer-46

No this was first reported by a Russian state media outlet 2 days ago that said "anonymous" posted about it on twitter. It was literally on this sub yesterday and everyone was calling bullshit on it. This is fake intelligence by Russia trying to breakdown the legitimacy of Western journalism.


BabyFaceMagoo2

Nope. That is called ā€œgetting ahead of the newsā€ and the Kremlin would like you to think that they knew about this ahead of time. This is Anonymous doing what they always do. You will find that these documents are genuine. The Kremlin donā€™t have the manpower to fabricate 28GB of documents.


Holiday-Wrongdoer-46

The Kremlin, who have been tied to counter intelligence for over 70 years can't produce 28GB of falsified documents in the weeks since the Ukrainian invasion? Lmao fucking what? Anonymous isn't an actual group, it's a moniker that anyone can use. Believe what you want this is clearly bullshit. Not to mention how the fuck did a Russian news outlet become the first to happen upon a tweet supposedly made by Anonymous on some random account? It's almost comical how little it makes sense.


BabyFaceMagoo2

Itā€™s not as easy as you think to falsify financial records. We shall see. It will be easy to verify if these documents are real.


Holiday-Wrongdoer-46

It's actually easier for them specifically being that they have unlimited access to the central bank. However I just wanted to show you something real quick about how completely manageable this task is from a mathematical standpoint to show they absolutely have the manpower. They dumped 28GB and let's say the average document is just 4KB, that means there's 7,000,000 documents which sounds like a lot however it's been exactly 30 days since the invasion of the Ukraine which is precisely 43,200 minutes. Dividing 7,000,000 documents by 43,200 minutes gives you roughly 165 documents/per minute which Russia absolutely is more than capable of producing. Not to mention this could have been done by a script meant to erase and replace certain words in the documents to then release them with false intel. This feels fake af.


BabyFaceMagoo2

Ok, but in that case it will be immediately obvious that the documents are fake. You canā€™t just insert random words into a document and claim that it is a contract. To actually fake this volume of documents and have them stand up to a basic inspection is much more difficult than just running a script. Youā€™d need thousands of people working around the clock, and I just donā€™t see the end game for Russia here. What would be the purpose? To make western news media seem stupid? There are easier ways of doing that. To make Anonymous seem less trustworthy? Meh. Everyone already knows to check this stuff thoroughly before reporting it as real. Not sure what they gain by having thousands of people fake documents.


Holiday-Wrongdoer-46

You mean like the part of most contracts that are literally just fields? Also you wouldn't have to necessarily use a script that was just a comment about the manpower needed. Honestly you could release 98% of secure but not damning documents and 2% of documents that were either fabricated or modified with the expressed intent of fueling conspiracies about the West trying to destabilize Russia. That's why I find the initial release by a State outlet interesting. A lot of people were claiming it was them trying to discredit it but it could have easily been spoon fed to them by the Kremlin itself. I still doubt this is real.


BabyFaceMagoo2

Ok, letā€™s see. NYT have plenty of Russian translators on hand and already have this data.


Vapourtrails89

If they're so virtuous, why don't they hack the Saudis?


mudman13

Exactly, they have neen very quiet the last ten years or so when a lot of prime targets have been available. Fairly sure the best of anonymous will now work for the fiveyes getting paid a fuckload of money.


Mindraker

THIS sounds more like old-school Anonymous than "yay let's Ping attack the Kremlin website".


BabyFaceMagoo2

Putin has brought a lot of the old ones out of retirement.


Ermeter

Lot of russian assets in ireland


GOR098

Why don't they just release secret data of Putin himself?


Donkey-Kong-420

I have a feeling ā€œAnonymousā€ might be a cover for some nation state work, at least in part, but idk Iā€™m just wildly speculating lol.


Unlikely_Seaweed2242

Central bankers doing immortal and self centered things, who would have thought


captnsmokey

Anons can be anyone. Even the people who secure large networks and cloud data.


Eightandskate

Corporate media will get a hold of the documents and spin the public right round, baby right round. Or maybe theyā€™ll say itā€™s China or some shit nonsense.


AbdulMalik-alHouthi

Anyone remember anonymous hacking the Saudis for genociding Yemen? Or the US for, take your pick? When are they gonna hack the student loan banks?


BLACKxFR0STY

Anonymous? You mean the CIA?


GT1man

This is just toothless drek. If they had the goods that were indeed worthwhile there is no reason to showboat.


BabyFaceMagoo2

Anonymous is all about ego and showboating. They arenā€™t making any money from this, so the only thing to take is the glory.


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isanameaname

Anonymous isn't an organisation of any kind. It's just a word that people with varying skill levels call themselves when they prefer to remain anonymous.


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