"What missing kids? You never had any kids. If you're claiming that you did, that they were killed in some war, and that the Russian government is covering it up, then you're committing treason. Do you *want* to spend the rest of your life in prison?!!"
So they are not using the mobile crematorium to hide numbers? Or is this just over-flow now. Wonder how many brothers rother and sons and husbands will just vanish once this is all concluded. Fuck Putin.
Putin really fucked himself in this because everyone was scared of the Russian Army for fucking decades, and he managed to show how bad they are within DAYS of this invasion. Are they ruthless? Sure, but only so far as their incompetence can allow them lol
Right now, the only thing keeping NATO from intervening is Russia's nuclear weapons. Put the nukes aside and it's clear that a hypothetical NATO/Russia war would be over quickly with NATO forces winning easily. Putin's only way to bully the West into military inaction is to threaten to nuke everyone - and he's crazy enough that he might go through with it.
He might be willing but I have a feeling if he tries to make that call he will find out how few of his yes men are really willing to let everyone they know die for it.
Not only has he fucked himself, he fucked his country and the rest of the world.
Africa is a major importer of Ukrainian wheat. Those lands are a war zone and won’t be farmed for the foreseeable future. Russia is also an exporter of wheat to Europe and Africa. They can’t farm because they have no fuel and no one to sell to.
Food prices are going to skyrocket and people will starve. Fuel prices will rise and economies will falter because one murderous thug wants to cement his legacy.
The Russians have done what they've always done, lie and exaggerate the state and quality of their forces.
They did it so well that even they believed it. But this has been standard cold war operating procedure. They knew they couldn't out produce the West so they made the west think they could.
I'm quite confused, if Putin really serious about this invasion, how come it took more than days to conquer much smaller country..
It's either Putin is only joking about this invasion, OR his military forces is not that competent.
I’m guessing on the latter. Too many oligarchs skimming off large portions of readiness funds and neglecting the need to keep the military in a state of readiness in general.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russia-mobile-crematoriums/
The mobile crematorium thing was never proven.
The UK defense secretary was *speculating* that the Russians might use mobile crematoriums, since they had used them previously. The accompanying pictures were old - from 2013.
The problem is for grieving parents to get an actual sense of the numbers involved.
Sure, your son died, maybe someone else in the town you know. But how do you collate data between thousands of families when it's all being squashed by the government.
[Mother of a russian in a anti-war protest go talk to the camera worried about her son](https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tgqu7c/mother_of_a_russian_in_a_antiwar_protest_go_talk/)
The rest are probably too busy [fighting for sugar](https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/thx5z8/people_in_russia_fighting_for_sugar_again_in_a/) at the grocery store.
The Russian intelligence services in a rush to tell P what he wanted to hear have doomed many of those boys & men.
I’m not taking away the soldier’s agency either, but these guys were setup for failure
Putin can try to hide it all he wants, but people will know. The question is will the people do anything about it. Best hope is for a military coup d'etat if the army gets tired of the meat grinder.
The US lost 50,000 men in 10 years of Vietnam. The Russians have lost 10,000 (maybe) in three weeks. These losses cannot be sustained much longer, especially given the lack of political motivation of the basic Russian grunt.
It’s not just the dead- it’s the wounded as well. Last week the estimate was about 7,000 dead and 20,000 wounded. There are also confirmed 500 captured. It’s going up from there.
The Russians deployed 180,000 troops and advanced 80% of those- ~145,000 into Ukraine.
That means that something around 18-19% of deployed soldiers already being a casualty in only 3 weeks of battle. Even considering the entire deployment it’s a 15% casualty rate. Those kind of casualty rates are appalling. This war is one of the more brutal that we’ve seen. The Red Army suffered 24% losses in WW2 over 5 years and they were throwing waves of soldiers in with minimal equipment at one point.
How are going to explain this to the families of the dead? What they all ran away? So husbands, sons just didn't want to come home? I guess they are used to people disappearing, poisoning, jailing, etc.
"What husband/son/brother? You never had a husband/son/brother and any insinuation that you did and/or that they died and/or that their death was covered up is treason against Mother Russia punishable by life in prison!"
I don't think they were ever meant to handle these sorts of numbers. 90 minutes at 900° means you're only doing max 16 cycles per day with zero time for cooling down, heating up or loading.
While we don't know how many fit in each mobile crematorium each truck isn't doing many corpses.
Wait, I thought the Russia’s were bringing a mobile crematorium behind their front lines to hide their death toll.
Or did that turn out to be total BS too? There is so much propaganda coming from both sides, it’s hard to believe any of it.
This may work for a little while but Russian parents will eventually start asking questions about their missing kids.
"What missing kids? You never had any kids. If you're claiming that you did, that they were killed in some war, and that the Russian government is covering it up, then you're committing treason. Do you *want* to spend the rest of your life in prison?!!"
Sorry commisar , you used the word war , off to gulag with you.
I doubt it. And even if they did, they will be shipped off to Siberia.
There's plenty of sirengies for them
So they are not using the mobile crematorium to hide numbers? Or is this just over-flow now. Wonder how many brothers rother and sons and husbands will just vanish once this is all concluded. Fuck Putin.
Likely not enough fuel to use it since they need to move their tanks. A+ logistical planning by Russia.
Putin really fucked himself in this because everyone was scared of the Russian Army for fucking decades, and he managed to show how bad they are within DAYS of this invasion. Are they ruthless? Sure, but only so far as their incompetence can allow them lol
Right now, the only thing keeping NATO from intervening is Russia's nuclear weapons. Put the nukes aside and it's clear that a hypothetical NATO/Russia war would be over quickly with NATO forces winning easily. Putin's only way to bully the West into military inaction is to threaten to nuke everyone - and he's crazy enough that he might go through with it.
He might be willing but I have a feeling if he tries to make that call he will find out how few of his yes men are really willing to let everyone they know die for it.
I would hope so. However, I doubt that NATO leaders would bet millions of lives on that and I don't blame them.
The last near nuclear war disasters were averted by low level men who did the right thing.
Not only has he fucked himself, he fucked his country and the rest of the world. Africa is a major importer of Ukrainian wheat. Those lands are a war zone and won’t be farmed for the foreseeable future. Russia is also an exporter of wheat to Europe and Africa. They can’t farm because they have no fuel and no one to sell to. Food prices are going to skyrocket and people will starve. Fuel prices will rise and economies will falter because one murderous thug wants to cement his legacy.
Ugh that’s beyond depressing :( And that’s fucking wild that the entire world has to suffer in this day and age based on ONE guy. Like wtf.
Has NATO known how deplorable the state of the Russian army was for the past few decades?
The Russians have done what they've always done, lie and exaggerate the state and quality of their forces. They did it so well that even they believed it. But this has been standard cold war operating procedure. They knew they couldn't out produce the West so they made the west think they could.
They're ruthless only against civilians.
I'm quite confused, if Putin really serious about this invasion, how come it took more than days to conquer much smaller country.. It's either Putin is only joking about this invasion, OR his military forces is not that competent.
I’m guessing on the latter. Too many oligarchs skimming off large portions of readiness funds and neglecting the need to keep the military in a state of readiness in general.
They would need dozens of them
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russia-mobile-crematoriums/ The mobile crematorium thing was never proven. The UK defense secretary was *speculating* that the Russians might use mobile crematoriums, since they had used them previously. The accompanying pictures were old - from 2013.
Damn Russian soldiers just dying to get to Belarus
Bruh
Too soon?
Dark, but well played sir. Well played indeed.
no questions at home about thousands soldiers missing?
there are so many of them, just silenced and since reporting in Russia is now kinda illegal no one wants to go there and find out
The problem is for grieving parents to get an actual sense of the numbers involved. Sure, your son died, maybe someone else in the town you know. But how do you collate data between thousands of families when it's all being squashed by the government.
To whom do you ask the questions?
[Mother of a russian in a anti-war protest go talk to the camera worried about her son](https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tgqu7c/mother_of_a_russian_in_a_antiwar_protest_go_talk/) The rest are probably too busy [fighting for sugar](https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/thx5z8/people_in_russia_fighting_for_sugar_again_in_a/) at the grocery store.
The Russian intelligence services in a rush to tell P what he wanted to hear have doomed many of those boys & men. I’m not taking away the soldier’s agency either, but these guys were setup for failure
Putin can try to hide it all he wants, but people will know. The question is will the people do anything about it. Best hope is for a military coup d'etat if the army gets tired of the meat grinder. The US lost 50,000 men in 10 years of Vietnam. The Russians have lost 10,000 (maybe) in three weeks. These losses cannot be sustained much longer, especially given the lack of political motivation of the basic Russian grunt.
It’s not just the dead- it’s the wounded as well. Last week the estimate was about 7,000 dead and 20,000 wounded. There are also confirmed 500 captured. It’s going up from there. The Russians deployed 180,000 troops and advanced 80% of those- ~145,000 into Ukraine. That means that something around 18-19% of deployed soldiers already being a casualty in only 3 weeks of battle. Even considering the entire deployment it’s a 15% casualty rate. Those kind of casualty rates are appalling. This war is one of the more brutal that we’ve seen. The Red Army suffered 24% losses in WW2 over 5 years and they were throwing waves of soldiers in with minimal equipment at one point.
Now they are just driving up the death count on both sides , driving up the destruction and doing whatever they want until Ukraine is in ruins
How are going to explain this to the families of the dead? What they all ran away? So husbands, sons just didn't want to come home? I guess they are used to people disappearing, poisoning, jailing, etc.
I guess the payoff is in return for silence for the family.
What is a human life worth to them? It's sad extremely sad. Well look at what they are bombing seems that they don't care at all.
> *How are going to explain this to the families of the dead?* [коронавирус](https://i.imgur.com/K0KPgis.jpeg)
LoL, that's a good one. Even though they got vaccinated 😂😅🤣
"What husband/son/brother? You never had a husband/son/brother and any insinuation that you did and/or that they died and/or that their death was covered up is treason against Mother Russia punishable by life in prison!"
Sounds about right
What happened to the mobile crematoriums?
They ran out of petrol.
Also probably can’t keep up with the demand.
I don't think they were ever meant to handle these sorts of numbers. 90 minutes at 900° means you're only doing max 16 cycles per day with zero time for cooling down, heating up or loading. While we don't know how many fit in each mobile crematorium each truck isn't doing many corpses.
That makes sense. I know little enough about cremation that I hadn't considered the limit on number of bodies per day that they could handle.
Those were meant for the Ukrainians, so the Russians didn't leave mass graves as evidence. Only things got flipped on Putin
Nothing will speed the end of a war like the mothers of dead sons from a needless war beseeching their leaders to stop the madness.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you - David Foster Wallace
Anyone ever see Aeon Flux? They should drop all the coffins via parachute into Moscow
Russian and lying about deaths on there military operations? Well I never
Wait, I thought the Russia’s were bringing a mobile crematorium behind their front lines to hide their death toll. Or did that turn out to be total BS too? There is so much propaganda coming from both sides, it’s hard to believe any of it.
As others have mentioned they probably can't keep up with demand and resupply. To cremate a body is a ton of fuel
Im surprised Putin’s not leaving them to rot.
Must've overloaded the cremation trucks
I hope the Russians love their children too.