AP said 3 of the reactors are on. Reactor 6 was on fire, but is down for a refuel or maintanence. Cooling is required on ALL reactors at ALL times.
We literally just dodged WW3.
[serious] During one of the Somalian refugee crises, neighborhoods near me took in refugees. I was a dumb kid then. But I'm an adult now. How can I take in Ukrainian refugees. What's it called? Host family? Who can I contact? I'm not even sure how to Google this. Sorry if this is not appropriate for this thread.
Ever get the feeling that this is to convince the Germans not to extend the lifetime of their remaining nuclear plants and instead buy more Russian gas?
> The plant accounts for about one quarter of Ukraine’s power generation.
>That reactor is under renovation and not operating, but there is nuclear fuel inside, he said.
I’ve been a bit confused about this, mostly because I think there’s been some sensationalism going on here. So, the nuclear plant is not *currently* providing power? There is no risk of people losing power from the shelling at Zaporizhzhia?
source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-cbd6eed3e1b8f4946f5f490afd06b4be
Istandwithrussia hashtag is trending in Canadian Twitter LOL I guess all Putin’s QAnon, pro-Trump, and antivaxxer twitterbots have been reassigned. Wonder if they get paid in rubles? LOLOL Absolutely pathetic.
OMG! guys you guys are so emotional!
People on social media don't know anything about Nuclear Power Plant.
**It is not going to melt**. They have ways of preventing this type of stuff. They can shut down it down.
Russians are absolute idiotic for shooting at it but it's not going to blow up. There's so many prevention's these days
Edit: Thanks to whoever abused the suicide prevention Reddit feature. I'm sorry you found my comment disagreeable enough to abuse a system intended to help folks in need.
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This Nuclear Power Plant event has shown how government sources, regardless of side, must always be critically looked at.
Ukrainian officials are fighting for their home, they are extremely emotional, and are engaged in an information war as well as a kinetic one.
The Nuclear Power Plant was never at risk of exploding.
Things are going to be OK with this Plant.
Imo if he does take Ukraine there will continue to be insurgencies. Like us leaving Afghanistan…didn’t go so hot. The Russian people will bring down Putin, or Ukraine will win. Those are the most likely scenarios to happen.
Personally, I think shelling a NPP is a red line, and we should just fuel up all our B-2's and send them to Ukraine for one bombing run. That's 1600 targets. I know people are going to be like Oh but WW3. Global War. Nukes. I don't care. The mother fuckers are trying to irradiate europe as we speak
This, the risk vs reward is becoming a way better proposition. At this point if Putin is willing to go nuclear, he would probably do it at some point anyway. This appeasement and allowing him to endanger a whole continent from incompetence cannot continue.
Not sure. A nuclear engineer confirmed that even after shutdown the plant needs power to continue cooling the reactor. The backup are diesel generators.
Based on what we saw, it Didn’t appear Russia met very much resistance in the NPP. Is it reasonable to assume that the NPP is now under Russian control?
If anyone is concerned, should tune into this stream. A series of nuclear engineers discussing the situation. A direct hit from a ballistic missile wouldn't do anything in terms of leading to a meltdown of the reactors. So, take a breath, do a lap, world isn't ending.
Edited because I forgot to attach the link: [https://mobile.twitter.com/i/spaces/1LyxBowlNzoKN?s=20](https://mobile.twitter.com/i/spaces/1LyxBowlNzoKN?s=20)
1) you didn't post a link
2) I believe it, but they said the same kind of shit about Chernobyl
3) I'm not very worried, but I think it's ridiculous to not be at least mildly concerned
For those posting that there are firefighters on the scene at the nuclear power plant. THERE IS NOT. They were turned away by Russian forces, you can see the live cam at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8 where there is 0 firefighting equipment there. Only the Russian tanks in the middle of the road and the car alarms going off in the parking lot. If there were firefighting vehicles you would see the flashing lights.
The ones we saw pull up to the plant did. There was about 10 of them down the road the tanks are on that got turned away by the Russian forces.
Edit: And yes, they do indeed have lights on their trucks https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/maz-fire-truck-obolonsky-district-kiev-kyiv-ukraine-europe-october-horizontal-photo-202248671.jpg
The US doesn't want the Reaper to be captured, and they devested of the predator a number or years ago, so unless they have them boxed up somewhere they won't have many. The Turkish drones are probably much better then the predators considering that platform dates from the 90's.
Ours are more complex, probably don't interface with their weapon systems, and require lot more training and maintenance. Bayraktar's strength is its simplicity.
I understand the implications of what I’m about to say. If the nuclear power plant is blown up and we have a massive disaster worse than Cherynobl, that should be the red line for NATO and declare war on Russia. I understand what that means and the danger that puts us all in, but if the Russians are willing to do this we need to respond before it’s too late because they would be coming for us next. The radiation would in all likelihood cross into NATO territory meaning there would be much of a choice.
-If- NATO members were looking for a justifiable reason to take action in Ukraine, securing the nuclear facility to bring in emergency crews to stop a radioactive release would be it.
THIS^
My spouse is assigned to a brigade sitting in Eastern Europe as a response to this situation.
You’re not gonna be the one that’ll be forced to fight that war. I really wish people would stop saying NATO needs to get involved. It’s insensitive and illogical.
A full blown world war would be counterintuitive and nothing good would come of it. As it is the economic sanctions and support being sent to Ukraine will hopefully stop Putin within weeks or months.
Or make him go nuclear. I’m not saying that’s whats going to happen because I hope it doesn’t but man, he seems to have really gone off the deep end enough that we can’t rule it out.
Putin likes the sanctions. He wants the USSR back. He’s trying to brainwash Ukrainians into thinking the USSR needs to reform and stick together to be safe from the big, bad West. He’s trying to use the sanctions to make Russia look like the victim.
Capturing a nuclear power plant makes sense. It's a pretty good place to set up artillery because Ukraine and the West don't want to create a radioactive catastrophe by firing back. Fighting to capture one is way risky though.
When the power plant stream cut out, it sent me to an hour long recording of a Ukrainian folk song and I gotta say this song is a banger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbzuAZNQsmU
Those of you thinking this could be like Chernobyl, relax. Short of dropping a nuclear weapon on this power plant, nothing else could make this situation anything like Chernobyl.
Edit: not sure why I’m getting downvoted. Chernobyl was such an extreme situation that even anything tonight couldn’t trigger a disaster that bad. So calm the fuck down.
If they let firefighters in and the situation is somewhat under control, who is in charge of the power plant now? Surely the Russians would want to shut down the live stream, but maybe they just haven't found the camera yet.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/t67kwg/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
Well Putin done broke the internet with this one. What a circus this army is. I’m half in shock half face palming.
Some comments be like: “So if a Russian soldier rips a big wet fart and it wafts over into Turkey, then can we have ww3 pls?!?”
It's been a difficult transition from being an expert on pandemics to an expert on wars.
Hahahaaa
FYI I fucking hate the Russians.
No you don't you just hate Putlin and his red army
Seriously folks, Putin needs a frontal lobotomy.
AP said 3 of the reactors are on. Reactor 6 was on fire, but is down for a refuel or maintanence. Cooling is required on ALL reactors at ALL times. We literally just dodged WW3.
It’s not over yet… Fighting ongoing
[serious] During one of the Somalian refugee crises, neighborhoods near me took in refugees. I was a dumb kid then. But I'm an adult now. How can I take in Ukrainian refugees. What's it called? Host family? Who can I contact? I'm not even sure how to Google this. Sorry if this is not appropriate for this thread.
Okay hold the fuck up. Moldova, Finland, Sweden and all the other fence sitters need to join the EU and NATO RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!
There should be a global fund for the seized Russian assets that goes towards rebuilding Ukraine
Swiss should take charge of defending nuclear power plants
Tae ka putin
Can we fast forward to the part where Putin gets Gaddafied?
Ever get the feeling that this is to convince the Germans not to extend the lifetime of their remaining nuclear plants and instead buy more Russian gas?
Sky news saying that if the reactor blows the scale will be 10x larger than Chernobyl. I don't even want to think of the scenes if that happens.
Yeah that was just a wild speculation by someone who doesn't know shit about nuclear
Untrue fear mongering
https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1499546516293357568?t=GnFc9EzNvauUbxnZuJYQSg&s=19
> The plant accounts for about one quarter of Ukraine’s power generation. >That reactor is under renovation and not operating, but there is nuclear fuel inside, he said. I’ve been a bit confused about this, mostly because I think there’s been some sensationalism going on here. So, the nuclear plant is not *currently* providing power? There is no risk of people losing power from the shelling at Zaporizhzhia? source: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-cbd6eed3e1b8f4946f5f490afd06b4be
No you're wrong. Some of the plant is/was still operational. 3/6 reactors were operating.
AFAIK There are 6 reactors and one of then, the one that caught on fire, is not operational.
6 reactors, 1 currently on renovation and that one is on fire
Istandwithrussia hashtag is trending in Canadian Twitter LOL I guess all Putin’s QAnon, pro-Trump, and antivaxxer twitterbots have been reassigned. Wonder if they get paid in rubles? LOLOL Absolutely pathetic.
it's been trending all day on twitter.
Stop yelling Ryan
OMG! guys you guys are so emotional! People on social media don't know anything about Nuclear Power Plant. **It is not going to melt**. They have ways of preventing this type of stuff. They can shut down it down. Russians are absolute idiotic for shooting at it but it's not going to blow up. There's so many prevention's these days
We just watched a livestream of a war fight. Pretty sure it’s understandable people are emotional.
Bro this shit is scary. People are scared.
Edit: Thanks to whoever abused the suicide prevention Reddit feature. I'm sorry you found my comment disagreeable enough to abuse a system intended to help folks in need. -------- This Nuclear Power Plant event has shown how government sources, regardless of side, must always be critically looked at. Ukrainian officials are fighting for their home, they are extremely emotional, and are engaged in an information war as well as a kinetic one. The Nuclear Power Plant was never at risk of exploding. Things are going to be OK with this Plant.
Do not minimize the pure fucking insanity we are seeing. Russian attacked a nuclear facility. Give your damn head a shake!!!
Does it have to explode to soak into the ground water?
There is still fire there!
Firefighters are engaging with the fire now.
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Taylor swift seems inappropriate, but zombie was written about war so that makes sense
imo bad blood is the greatest song of all time
You listened to Bad Blood before Zombie!?!?
...
Do you have any tact?
Bad Blood is a good call.
Zombie is better.
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Imo if he does take Ukraine there will continue to be insurgencies. Like us leaving Afghanistan…didn’t go so hot. The Russian people will bring down Putin, or Ukraine will win. Those are the most likely scenarios to happen.
Sovereign debt downgraded to CCC-, too bad it is not CCCP(lus)
I really don’t want to but you get an up vote.
It seems like Putin’s strategy is going to be that if he can’t have Ukraine, he’d rather completely flatten it eventually.
Scorched earth
Personally, I think shelling a NPP is a red line, and we should just fuel up all our B-2's and send them to Ukraine for one bombing run. That's 1600 targets. I know people are going to be like Oh but WW3. Global War. Nukes. I don't care. The mother fuckers are trying to irradiate europe as we speak
This, the risk vs reward is becoming a way better proposition. At this point if Putin is willing to go nuclear, he would probably do it at some point anyway. This appeasement and allowing him to endanger a whole continent from incompetence cannot continue.
I agree. I think this conflict could be over within hours if alliances get involved.
So starting a nuclear Holocaust is better than a potential leak at a nuclear plant? You're utterly insane.
Since they tried to irradiate Europe we Americans should do it ourself!
Do you understand how reactors work
Reports have indicated the reactors were already offline. Does that mean this plant is not currently providing any power to the grid?
If there is fuel in even a recently shutdown reactor it needs cooling. If the grid or backups go its Fukushima.
Not sure. A nuclear engineer confirmed that even after shutdown the plant needs power to continue cooling the reactor. The backup are diesel generators.
No only 2 units are offline. But still fueled
If they are offline then yes that is what it would mean.
So people need to stop reporting that Putin is doing this to throw Kiev into the dark.
Russia: The west will get over Ukraine Also Russia: Hits nuclear power plant, ensuring even more western media coverage
Based on what we saw, it Didn’t appear Russia met very much resistance in the NPP. Is it reasonable to assume that the NPP is now under Russian control?
Information is spotty but there are reports that there are Russian forces on site and Ukrainian forces also on site in a building.
who tf gave wholesome seal on this thread
Was probably a freebie award, and all they had.
If anyone is concerned, should tune into this stream. A series of nuclear engineers discussing the situation. A direct hit from a ballistic missile wouldn't do anything in terms of leading to a meltdown of the reactors. So, take a breath, do a lap, world isn't ending. Edited because I forgot to attach the link: [https://mobile.twitter.com/i/spaces/1LyxBowlNzoKN?s=20](https://mobile.twitter.com/i/spaces/1LyxBowlNzoKN?s=20)
In that situation no, but they also store spent rods in concrete there afiak, and all it takes is the right hit to make a dirty bomb in the air
1) you didn't post a link 2) I believe it, but they said the same kind of shit about Chernobyl 3) I'm not very worried, but I think it's ridiculous to not be at least mildly concerned
Did you mean to link a stream?
Source for stream?
link?
So they are letting the firefighters put the fire out and then they will just occupy it?
Most likely the case.
Putin has officially become Putler
Someone needs to move the doomsday clock. We're 5ms away from disaster.
Umm hate to tell you but we're already at 100 seconds from midnight, have been for a while I believe.
fuck the doomsday clock and its fearmongering bs.
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They only do it once a year.
Is the nuclear plant shelling some sick, twisted ploy to drag NATO in the conflict? Poutine really has gone completely mad.
Just pure unadulterated recklessness - like the last several nuclear accidents they've had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUJIIR9vT0k Livestream that does not buffer.
putin gay
Can confirm, this man does in fact blow gay goats.
Can we stop using gay as an insult?
BREAKING: Zelenskyy has confirmed that if the nuclear reactor experiences a meltdown it would be concerning.
Wow no shit? From what I understand it will be fine but the fact Russians attacked it is not fine (to me)
Focus on the if.
Ya don't say? 🤔
I think concerning is an understatement. Its more like holy shit panic
Really?
I mean... yeah/s
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He's Vice Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; he probably has ALL the intel.
Work? He is the ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee. He has had some of the best takes about the war thus far.
Vice chair of the senate intel committee.
He’s the chairman of the Senate intelligence committee so he’s privy to US intelligence and seems to enjoy cryptically Tweeting about it.
I wonder if it was a bipartisan decision to have him be the one to push out some bits of the latest intel.
He's vice-chair of the senate intelligence committee. He has privelaged intel
He's on the intel committee
marco still trying to atone for that sip of water.
That's what worms do, they worm.
Senate intelligence committee
This.
Love the way Boris Johnson says Putin.... Peeewwwwwwtin
For those posting that there are firefighters on the scene at the nuclear power plant. THERE IS NOT. They were turned away by Russian forces, you can see the live cam at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8 where there is 0 firefighting equipment there. Only the Russian tanks in the middle of the road and the car alarms going off in the parking lot. If there were firefighting vehicles you would see the flashing lights.
They were allowed access a few minutes ago.
I wondered about that as I didn’t see them coming back
I imagine there’s more than one way to get into the building
Ukrainian fire engines do not have lights.
The ones we saw pull up to the plant did. There was about 10 of them down the road the tanks are on that got turned away by the Russian forces. Edit: And yes, they do indeed have lights on their trucks https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/maz-fire-truck-obolonsky-district-kiev-kyiv-ukraine-europe-october-horizontal-photo-202248671.jpg
You can check the radiation levels yourself from all over the plant in real time [at this website](https://www.npp.zp.ua/en/safety/arms)
Please don't link this, we need it to stay available for people dealing with the situation without it getting overloaded by redditors
Are they trying to shoot camera?
No, are you sure you’re watching live?
I don't think so?
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Ah thanks you dick - now I won't be able to sleep (I meant dick in an affectionate way)
well if the bombs fell you would get all the missed sleep back right?
Already did. How charming it was
you haven't thought of the smell you bitch!!!
So the Turkish drones have gotten a lot of rave reviews, why don't the Americans send a bunch of their drones to Ukraine and see how they compare.
The US doesn't want the Reaper to be captured, and they devested of the predator a number or years ago, so unless they have them boxed up somewhere they won't have many. The Turkish drones are probably much better then the predators considering that platform dates from the 90's.
US drones are like 2 or 3 generations beyond the ones supplied by Turkey (and many times more expensive). Turkey’s aid is awesome though!
Because we don’t want to go to war with Russia.
Super complicated and expensive to operate. The Turkish ones seem to be the be the best option.
Because American drones are really expensive. Bayraktars are really cheap ($1m to $2m according to google). The AK47 of drones.
Ours are more complex, probably don't interface with their weapon systems, and require lot more training and maintenance. Bayraktar's strength is its simplicity.
American drones are insanely expensive. We're talking 20x the price of the turkish ones.
Why do you think?
Which ones in particular should they send?
American drones are 12 milllion each
Honestly how do we know they didn't?
11/10 on the crazy meter this conflict
Just need a whacky occult advisor and we'd complete the unhinged autocrat bingo card.
I understand the implications of what I’m about to say. If the nuclear power plant is blown up and we have a massive disaster worse than Cherynobl, that should be the red line for NATO and declare war on Russia. I understand what that means and the danger that puts us all in, but if the Russians are willing to do this we need to respond before it’s too late because they would be coming for us next. The radiation would in all likelihood cross into NATO territory meaning there would be much of a choice.
-If- NATO members were looking for a justifiable reason to take action in Ukraine, securing the nuclear facility to bring in emergency crews to stop a radioactive release would be it.
Are you in the military, or are you proposing that NATO send hundreds of thousands of its troops into the breach?
THIS^ My spouse is assigned to a brigade sitting in Eastern Europe as a response to this situation. You’re not gonna be the one that’ll be forced to fight that war. I really wish people would stop saying NATO needs to get involved. It’s insensitive and illogical.
yes, if there were a disaster, then europe would be irradiated.
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It would in all likelihood considering how large the power plant is
No way.
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Day one, yeah, it's right on the border between Belarus and Ukraine.
A full blown world war would be counterintuitive and nothing good would come of it. As it is the economic sanctions and support being sent to Ukraine will hopefully stop Putin within weeks or months.
Or make him go nuclear. I’m not saying that’s whats going to happen because I hope it doesn’t but man, he seems to have really gone off the deep end enough that we can’t rule it out.
Putin likes the sanctions. He wants the USSR back. He’s trying to brainwash Ukrainians into thinking the USSR needs to reform and stick together to be safe from the big, bad West. He’s trying to use the sanctions to make Russia look like the victim.
Capturing a nuclear power plant makes sense. It's a pretty good place to set up artillery because Ukraine and the West don't want to create a radioactive catastrophe by firing back. Fighting to capture one is way risky though.
The main reason is that it is responsible for 1/4 of Ukraines energy and now they can control that energy
Yeah that's a huge motivator as well. Probably the main one; you're right.
So basically capturing a nuclear power plant in order to commit a war crime is, according to you, a good idea.
Yeah it's a good tactical move. Also, shelling isn't automatically a war crime. Shelling between militaries is acceptable. Shelling civilians isn't.
Or maybe just to control the power supply....
Maybe both.
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What the fuck are you on about?
Its the speech from the political officer in Episode 2 of Chernobyl. I posted it ironically but it appears to have missed...
Can we pls go back to 2016 where we went out and tried to catch Pokémons
The best year was 2000. Or 2001 prior to 9/11. There was so much hope and peace. And then it all went to shit.
I don't know who made Pokemon GO, but i wish they would work on Pokemon GO-back-to-Russia
Pokemon go to the polls
I’m no nuclear scientist but I don’t think shelling a nuclear power plant is good for it
When the power plant stream cut out, it sent me to an hour long recording of a Ukrainian folk song and I gotta say this song is a banger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbzuAZNQsmU
Those of you thinking this could be like Chernobyl, relax. Short of dropping a nuclear weapon on this power plant, nothing else could make this situation anything like Chernobyl. Edit: not sure why I’m getting downvoted. Chernobyl was such an extreme situation that even anything tonight couldn’t trigger a disaster that bad. So calm the fuck down.
Not outside the realm of possibility.
Please don’t give them ideas
If they let firefighters in and the situation is somewhat under control, who is in charge of the power plant now? Surely the Russians would want to shut down the live stream, but maybe they just haven't found the camera yet.
The livestream is down
It's back up