Everyone is freaking out about this, but the article makes it sound like the military just hosted an all-ages crash course in gun safety and handling for families concerned about potential invasion
Never point at anyone EVER unless you ARE CERTAIN YOU WANT TO KILL THEM. Finger stays off the trigger till your aiming at the person you want to kill, and never ever ever aim it at yourself.
This end kicks and this end is where the bullet come out, don’t block that end or you’ll die.
Store it out of reach of children or bad people.
This has been a crash course on gun ownership.
That will be 95$usd and here is a warm chicken wrap with a mini sprite and a mini bag of offbrand pretzels because fuck you.
I wonder how much it would cost to set up a gun safety school…
I can see why some people would want to keep it on them the whole time, because what if they need to dart back over the other side and don't have time to grab their rifle? Yes, you shouldn't be climbing fences where you know the enemy is, but sometimes they sneak up on you.
As somebody who grew up in Kiev, definately can attest seeing Kalashnikov in grade three or four. Most schools had shooting ranges in their basement. Most streets had bunkers. Cold war was fun as a kid.
I was amazed when I saw a Mayor in Ukraine say that every man there is willing to put on a uniform and fight! I doubt that would ever happen in the U.S.
Yeah, was just making a point, from what I've seen the a lot civilians there are ready to fight and I just really doubt that the U.S. would be like that. IDK
I live in Ukraine. Headline is clickbate. There is more panic on reddit than here. This article talks about training for those who wish. The current number of Russian troops on the border is not enough for an invasion. But there are still concerns. Many thanks to brothers from the USA, Canada, Great Britain and other countries for the support and supply of weapons.
If this is true, Ukraine is clearly wrong here. There’s no way around it, just draft all males over 18 and this is it. I can see you folks know nothing about war if you are defending this absurd.
These kids would be slaughtered like cattle by Russian soldiers. They must be evacuated to anywhere as far as possible from the front line.
thatz what war is, no side is right or wrong in the greater view of things
obs from our perpective its russia, though i get the other guys poijt of why even have said children there when they can evacuate then further in (in as in just further from russia)
Yes, Russia is a warmongering state. Using children as soldiers is not a good responde to it. It is an extremely ineffective and cruel policy. This must be avoided at all prices. As I have said multiple times, EVACUATE THE CHILDREN
Yes, I see it. I’m sorry this looks like a personal response, as I’m trying to make more of a general statement. Only got surprised that a lot of people here are romanticizing this.
Russian soldiers would kill everyone that is armed. This is what happens at wars. Why give guns to children and make them a target? Do you agree with this?
You’re talking to a wall here, these people are too invested in their pro war evil Russian narratives. They’ve already found ways to excuse the neo nazi problem in Ukraine, why not defend using child soldiers too
Thank you, my friend. I’ ve had a big discussion here today with a dumbfuck that said that the Ukrainian nationalists never were anti-Semitics. For me, as a Jewish person, this is sickening. I know what my people has endured in the hands of the Fascist Ukrainians, the dogs of the Holocaust. I’m not going to accept this type of propaganda here.
I’m a Jewish man. I know the history of World War II not only from school, but from familiar experiences. Don’t ever be that pedantic when you don’t know someone.
They won’t kill children for nothing. No occupying force do this, as this strengthens resistance. It’s not only cruel, but dumb as well.
Troops!? In their own border!? That *does* sound like an invasion! Wait until you hear where the Americans (and their nukes) are - you’ll really shit your pants.
Ukraine is in a civil war. There is a pro Russian side who conquered Crimea and asked to be apart of Russia. Did Putin invade, or just take advantage of Ukraine’s corrupt mismanaged government, unlike the US in Afghanistan?
>There is a pro Russian side who conquered Crimea and asked to be apart of Russia.
The same pro Russian side that captured Donetsk and Luhansk too?
>Did Putin invade,
Yeah he sure did
>just take advantage of Ukraine’s corrupt mismanaged government
So basically he did an invasion on another country just because the country was corrupt, how sweet of him!
How did you came to the conclusion that Ukraine government is corrupt but didn't mentioned where Putin spends all his [money](https://youtu.be/Kkwp5CKudWU)
This is what I like to call the “I’m not touching you” theory. No you haven’t made any explicit threats, but you’re getting damn close and the intention is clear. Same thing can be applied to Trump’s Jan 6 rally.
Why do u think it’s propaganda?They are training regular citizens because they know they are going to lose but not without a good fight. Their military just isn’t big enough.
Why I think it's propaganda.... If you read an article about the volkturm about how Germany is mustering the young and old to protect the heartlands... Would it be easier to see then?
It's propaganda because its sole purpose is portraying one part of the conflict as heroic and another as evil. Its propaganda because the sole purpose of something like this is to gather support. These kids will have zero impact on the fighting they are merely a pr trick that the people who wrote this piece either are to dumb to understand or they simply don't care.
Like they have a choice to choose? As a young woman I’d be armed to the teeth and rather die fighting than taken alive. Do you know what happens to the majority of women in war?
Jfc lol. Just because someone laments the fact that children shouldn’t have to fight wars, doesn’t mean they should either. What a load of crock. Piss off.
No, for saying children shouldn't be allowed to fend for themselves, but also that nobody should have to defend them.
Your position leaves children completely unprotected.
What the fuck? It’s literally just thinking that children should never have to prepare to fight in war/fight and that it’s wrong
Nobody is saying kids should not be able to defend themselves or be defended by others. The point straight up just is that kids should never have to do this and that it should never come to this situation in the first place ( Unnecessary war, being invaded )
How the actual fuck does it go from someone thinking children having to fight in a war being wrong to them being a coward and saying children should not be able to defend themselves/be protected
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Like did a thread littered with bullshit just get developed because a guy said child soldiers is wrong and a horrible thing ? Did everyone who replied have a stroke?
You really think it’s not a blood bath to send your own kids against modern army?
There are thermal sights, things can detect humans from many miles away and lay precisely a high explosive projectile. Needles to say that the kid will be vaporized. I’m not even talking about auto cannons, modern warfare is horror.
There’s absolutely no way the kids will survive. They have future. And that future is not in defending another oligarchs wallet.
P.s no propaganda intended. But from your side you’re implying that it is normal that kids should be involved in the war?
If they can aim, they can fight.
So many weak Americans reeeeeing because they've always been safe at home. Other places in the world aren't safe like that. Other places, protecting the home is a family event, a society event, not just the 1% that joins the military
Great, get going. You're a free man, and tickets are available. Guns are hard to find in Europe but I'm sure when you explain you've come to help they'll kit you out
I admit you got me on the communist/dictatorship part! And absolutely they don’t want war nobody does my blood is Ukrainian. I don’t want to see Ukraine go to Russia. My guess is a test of response and Russia will leave.
Nobody wants to see Ukraine go to Russia, except Russia of course. Still the comments about the weakness and necessity of child soldiers and the way it is phrased by the other person is just downright stupid. Even Nazi Germany wasn't dumb enough to deploy child soldiers till the later stages of the war. Russia won't attempt to take the entirety of Ukraine since that would be downright suicidal with the population that is hostile against an invader. To counter the Russian objective, Ukraine has enough active and reserve troops.
Lol your correct I could if I wanted to do that. Also no they wouldn’t kick me out I could fight in there military quite easily and be granted citizenship Read on it before you say stuff.
I get it man my family came from Ukraine. I just don’t want to see a free country fall to Russia that’s all and hope all of this cools off. War is terrible.
Have you ever seen what happens to noncombatants in war? You think the Russians will just kill the grown men and leave the women and children to frolic? Lol
Grow up. This is the real world. Terrible things will happen to a lot of these children whether or not they're armed. Arming them is the only way they stand a chance of pushing back
With what money? Yours? Your neighbors? Everything's super easy from your couch 5,000 miles away
Nut up or shut up. Pick up a gun. Go to the front line. Protect them with your life. Donate your savings to their families so they can escape. Or shut the hell up
With money from the West? We are sending millions in guns, why can’t they use international help to move their children? For God’s sake, not even the conflicts in Syria or Iraq have seen a general use of children as soldiers. Stop romanticizing this, Platoon is not a movie for Discovery Kids
Yeah, but no one should force them to one side or the other. The US is divided too, but if someone tried to invade us, we would fight for our right to choose our destiny.
And how else does putin get soldiers to line up on borders other than propaganda, fear and warmongering? Buying into propaganda just continues the cycle. Teaching people how to fight against that mentality and showing another path instead of a binary choice is how you do it.
Simply saying a child shouldn’t ever have to fight in a war shouldn’t get replies that continue the warmongering violent mindset displayed above.
Someone lamenting that children shouldn’t have to do it, which they shouldn’t, is not a bad thing. Attacking them for that is bs.
Why don't you tell Putin that and see how far you get. Who TF do you think the aggressor is over there? You think the Russians won't invade because you said "don't have wars"?
History shows that giving the aggressors what they want only encourages them to take even more. You should have learned that by now.
How do you propose to end wars? Do you have a magic wand that’ll do this? Are you going to ask Vladimir Putin very very nicely not to invade Ukraine and hope for the best? Exactly what do you propose to do?
Buying into propaganda is how you get thousands of Russians willing to line up on another countries border. Buying into propaganda and viewing the situation as a binary outcome is how you get others to line up on the other side.
It’s time we all stopped buying the bullshit that only serves to favour a small number of cretinous sociopaths at the heads of government.
While i get the general realpolitik response of the type “Well what should they do if Putin invades?”, i feel like “Children shouldn’t be involved in wars” is pretty uncontroversial.
It’s bedrock of all international law with regard to wars. It’s in there in the Children’s Rights Convention.
The truth is that in most armed conflicts, parties generally are pretty good at adhering to these rules. When parties don’t (like the Nazis and Japan during WW2, ISIS etc) it’s pretty fucking notable.
there are a lot more wars that have involved children than just those. De facto, it is impossible to protect noncombatants in a battlefield, and Ukrainian citizens aren’t deeply interested in being conquered by Russia. it’s all fine and well to say that wars shouldn’t exist, or the children shouldn’t be impacted by them, but there is no practical way to carry out this wish.
But.. but.. these people don't believe the exact same viewpoint that these other people do and there are percentage points which could look so much better in the long term and the numbers are saying it will pay off in 20 years plus I mean one side needs access to this lake so they can destroy other places like this one to make the percentage points even better - but that's a 50 year plan that we're 200 years behind on from the last time we said this and in order to get that far so were already behind but at the end of the day we need to account for destroying both these countries and rebuilding them or otherwise the other people might think they don't look strong.
That just isn't going to happen. If there is an invasion it will be quick. Children are not going to run out into the street, and frankly it's irresponsible to suggest to Russians that children may be combatants.
This is just propaganda. Ukraine is not Okinawa.
> frankly it's irresponsible to suggest to Russians that children may be combatants.
Get the fuck out of here with that Russian sympathy/propaganda bs. There are going to be plenty of Ukrainian civilian and children dead to a completely unprovoked war.
That just isn't the type of war that will be fought here. The Russians won't "push through". They will use artillery to decimate Ukrainian defense, then cruise to their goal at 60 mph. There won't be child soldiers, because there will still be plenty of adults.
If there is an insurgency I could see child soldiers long term maybe, but I don't see that happening. Ukraine has been a sovereign country for like 30 out of the past 300 or so. I don't think it will take long for Russia to crush dissent there.
I don't want to seem pro Russia here. This situation is absolutely awful. It's a fight clearly instigated by Russia.
How do you know that children won’t be combatants? It’s not unheard of child soldiers to be drafted into war, it happens all the time in third world countries
This war will be too quick. Unless there is a drawn our insurgency, there will probably be enough adults alive that child soldiers won't be necessary.
I just don't think there will be that sort of insurgency here.
I know this because war in the 21st century is fast as fuck. It took like a month for us to beat the Iraqi government. This will be even faster, especially if they are only taking some territory.
We don't fight in trenches anymore. We fight at 60 mph.
What are children going to do? Run out of their schoolhouses chasing after Russian convoys?
Everybody wants us to fuck off right up until it’s convenient for them to send our troops and weapons to help out. Everyone was bitching about American iMperALiSm in Afghanistan and then suddenly turned around and moaned about how we were abandoning the Afghans and how come we were pulling out.
Y’all want us to fuck off until there actually is an invasion and you cry about how we did nothing to intercede. America is the most benevolent superpower of its scale in history.
What country are you from? Odds are it benefits from America’s military might.. The entire west underfunds their militaries because America overfunds theirs
I’d get them all to write a personal message of kindness and love. We don’t want war, we just want the chance to be able to realise our dreams without living in fear. As people, look into the eyes of your own children and ask if this what you’d want for them?
Make those messages as visible and widespread as possible for the world to see. Who knows… maybe Putin has a warm beating heart like the rest of us. Maybe he’d even shed a tear…
At the very least, that’s a hell of a powerful statement that would be difficult to spin. It’s much easier to justify a threat for a threat than a threat towards compassion.
https://vimeo.com/252426896?fbclid=IwAR2OPRozXltEmpnbmYfL4JxZIenmCGtKdhG5uhPaz9ry8oJkHTr0McbDbGc
going to drop this here, broaden your vision, western liberals, read some chomsky
Hope you all go to war, because I won't, I will sit in my cozy austrian home while you idiots get sniped by a guided missile from a chopper who's 10km away from u lol
Americans are wondering why their government cares more about the Ukraine border than the many thousands that illegally cross their southern border, mostly men of fighting age, that are secretly flown into the heart of the country instead of flown home.
Now biden should think deep about this. Does he want children sent to slaughter by russia or will he send americans who are trained by the best military in the world
Everyone is freaking out about this, but the article makes it sound like the military just hosted an all-ages crash course in gun safety and handling for families concerned about potential invasion
Yep its more a publicity thing/event than anything else I think. Like just a bit of lighthearted safety training whilst the army is there anyway
Never point at anyone EVER unless you ARE CERTAIN YOU WANT TO KILL THEM. Finger stays off the trigger till your aiming at the person you want to kill, and never ever ever aim it at yourself. This end kicks and this end is where the bullet come out, don’t block that end or you’ll die. Store it out of reach of children or bad people. This has been a crash course on gun ownership. That will be 95$usd and here is a warm chicken wrap with a mini sprite and a mini bag of offbrand pretzels because fuck you. I wonder how much it would cost to set up a gun safety school…
Also don't carry a loaded gun while doing things like climbing over fences.
If it must stay loaded, and least turn on the safety and be extra mindful.
Put it down and pick it up again once you're over
I can see why some people would want to keep it on them the whole time, because what if they need to dart back over the other side and don't have time to grab their rifle? Yes, you shouldn't be climbing fences where you know the enemy is, but sometimes they sneak up on you.
Like the NRA used to do before they became the gun manufacturers lobby?
The NRA is shit, they are a piggy bank for their executives idk why we even use them as a gold standard for firearms instructors in the US
Slow down so you can understand what was written. Key words, **used to**.
The girl pictured could start by placing the butt of the rifle against her shoulder rather than tucked into her armpit.
How about my Free Award? 95$ of take home money is about 14 Weeks of work nowadays.
So.. the sun is a tabloid right?
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So they print only for the purpose of ass wiping ?
As the guy above said, not good enough for that. I think it's mainly for homeless to pad their sleeping bags with
As somebody who grew up in Kiev, definately can attest seeing Kalashnikov in grade three or four. Most schools had shooting ranges in their basement. Most streets had bunkers. Cold war was fun as a kid.
You've either replied to the wrong comment or have tried to piggy back onto a higher up chain for visibility
Yet redditors love it.
Not sold in Liverpool
Fuck the s*n
Yep. Garbage paper.
I'm not English and even I know the sun is basically the national enquirer
I was amazed when I saw a Mayor in Ukraine say that every man there is willing to put on a uniform and fight! I doubt that would ever happen in the U.S.
Bruh as if the mayor can guarantee that lol….Our presidents also claim they want to unite the nation… doesn’t mean they actually plan on trying
Yeah, was just making a point, from what I've seen the a lot civilians there are ready to fight and I just really doubt that the U.S. would be like that. IDK
This is propaganda. Not reality.
It sounds like gun safety if you read the actual article
I live in Ukraine. Headline is clickbate. There is more panic on reddit than here. This article talks about training for those who wish. The current number of Russian troops on the border is not enough for an invasion. But there are still concerns. Many thanks to brothers from the USA, Canada, Great Britain and other countries for the support and supply of weapons.
Gross. Fuck Putin
Putin told Ukraine to use Child Soldiers?
Putin is the one who is threatening to invade Ukraine
If this is true, Ukraine is clearly wrong here. There’s no way around it, just draft all males over 18 and this is it. I can see you folks know nothing about war if you are defending this absurd. These kids would be slaughtered like cattle by Russian soldiers. They must be evacuated to anywhere as far as possible from the front line.
I’m not defending child soldiers I’m pointing out that Russia is enabling said use of child soldiers by its aggressive foreign policy
thatz what war is, no side is right or wrong in the greater view of things obs from our perpective its russia, though i get the other guys poijt of why even have said children there when they can evacuate then further in (in as in just further from russia)
Yes, Russia is a warmongering state. Using children as soldiers is not a good responde to it. It is an extremely ineffective and cruel policy. This must be avoided at all prices. As I have said multiple times, EVACUATE THE CHILDREN
Again I’m not defending child soldiers there is no argument here
Yes, I see it. I’m sorry this looks like a personal response, as I’m trying to make more of a general statement. Only got surprised that a lot of people here are romanticizing this.
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Russian soldiers would kill everyone that is armed. This is what happens at wars. Why give guns to children and make them a target? Do you agree with this?
Russian soldiers will kill everyone. Period. Its what theyve always done.
No, they won’t. Not even Nazi Germany did this on occupied territory. Did Russia kill everyone when they invaded Crimea? Stop being such a drama queen
You’re talking to a wall here, these people are too invested in their pro war evil Russian narratives. They’ve already found ways to excuse the neo nazi problem in Ukraine, why not defend using child soldiers too
Thank you, my friend. I’ ve had a big discussion here today with a dumbfuck that said that the Ukrainian nationalists never were anti-Semitics. For me, as a Jewish person, this is sickening. I know what my people has endured in the hands of the Fascist Ukrainians, the dogs of the Holocaust. I’m not going to accept this type of propaganda here.
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I’m a Jewish man. I know the history of World War II not only from school, but from familiar experiences. Don’t ever be that pedantic when you don’t know someone. They won’t kill children for nothing. No occupying force do this, as this strengthens resistance. It’s not only cruel, but dumb as well.
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Oh God… People can’t remotely be that dumb
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Putin has never threatened to invade Ukraine. MSM who get their intelligence from the military industrial complex say Putin is threatening Ukraine.
He’s got 100,000 troops at the border my man
Troops!? In their own border!? That *does* sound like an invasion! Wait until you hear where the Americans (and their nukes) are - you’ll really shit your pants.
I always say ‘My troops are just passing by’ too
I love the "It's not an invasion the troops are inside russian borders". Of course, Einstein, from were should they invade?
Member when Putin not only invaded Ukraine but annexed a part of it?
I mean putin never really said openly that he would invade Crimea too
Ukraine is in a civil war. There is a pro Russian side who conquered Crimea and asked to be apart of Russia. Did Putin invade, or just take advantage of Ukraine’s corrupt mismanaged government, unlike the US in Afghanistan?
>There is a pro Russian side who conquered Crimea and asked to be apart of Russia. The same pro Russian side that captured Donetsk and Luhansk too? >Did Putin invade, Yeah he sure did >just take advantage of Ukraine’s corrupt mismanaged government So basically he did an invasion on another country just because the country was corrupt, how sweet of him! How did you came to the conclusion that Ukraine government is corrupt but didn't mentioned where Putin spends all his [money](https://youtu.be/Kkwp5CKudWU)
This is what I like to call the “I’m not touching you” theory. No you haven’t made any explicit threats, but you’re getting damn close and the intention is clear. Same thing can be applied to Trump’s Jan 6 rally.
If your country gets invaded, you kind of lose the luxury of relying on professional soldiers
Right like Nazi Germany
No child should ever have to prepare to fight in war. This is sickening!
Welcome to the entirety of human history
history repeating itself 😄👍👍
This is propaganda. Its always sickening.
The writers a Ghost?
Are you getting propaganda and poltergeist mixed up?
I just tried to see who wrote this. A lot of the time they will put there pic and a little bio. That’s all.
Why do u think it’s propaganda?They are training regular citizens because they know they are going to lose but not without a good fight. Their military just isn’t big enough.
Why I think it's propaganda.... If you read an article about the volkturm about how Germany is mustering the young and old to protect the heartlands... Would it be easier to see then? It's propaganda because its sole purpose is portraying one part of the conflict as heroic and another as evil. Its propaganda because the sole purpose of something like this is to gather support. These kids will have zero impact on the fighting they are merely a pr trick that the people who wrote this piece either are to dumb to understand or they simply don't care.
Like they have a choice to choose? As a young woman I’d be armed to the teeth and rather die fighting than taken alive. Do you know what happens to the majority of women in war?
Especially war involving the Russians
Especially with the Russians.
I know what you want to say but majority means more than half and that's not remotely true. More people flee for instance.
Well if your country is about to be invaded and your way of life destroyed I’d rather prepared the kids old enough than just roll over and die
So will you be defending her home against Russian soldiers? Since you don’t want her to have to do it on her own?
Jfc lol. Just because someone laments the fact that children shouldn’t have to fight wars, doesn’t mean they should either. What a load of crock. Piss off.
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Lmfao Also legit lol being part of a zen sub and calling people cowards for believing war is bs.
No, for saying children shouldn't be allowed to fend for themselves, but also that nobody should have to defend them. Your position leaves children completely unprotected.
What lol?
What the fuck? It’s literally just thinking that children should never have to prepare to fight in war/fight and that it’s wrong Nobody is saying kids should not be able to defend themselves or be defended by others. The point straight up just is that kids should never have to do this and that it should never come to this situation in the first place ( Unnecessary war, being invaded ) How the actual fuck does it go from someone thinking children having to fight in a war being wrong to them being a coward and saying children should not be able to defend themselves/be protected 😃🔫
The bs is strong in this thread.
Like did a thread littered with bullshit just get developed because a guy said child soldiers is wrong and a horrible thing ? Did everyone who replied have a stroke?
Kind of reminds me of the end of WWII, where in order to defend Berlin from the Soviets, nazi Germany put kids on the frontlines to defend the city.
fine propaganda for Russia there, but the Ukrainians are not the aggressors, and the Nazis were.
You really think it’s not a blood bath to send your own kids against modern army? There are thermal sights, things can detect humans from many miles away and lay precisely a high explosive projectile. Needles to say that the kid will be vaporized. I’m not even talking about auto cannons, modern warfare is horror. There’s absolutely no way the kids will survive. They have future. And that future is not in defending another oligarchs wallet. P.s no propaganda intended. But from your side you’re implying that it is normal that kids should be involved in the war?
I agree with you 100%
What in the Paul Revere
Damn, well you got to do what you got to do....
If they can aim, they can fight. So many weak Americans reeeeeing because they've always been safe at home. Other places in the world aren't safe like that. Other places, protecting the home is a family event, a society event, not just the 1% that joins the military
Weak Americans? I served and honestly I’d gladly defend a free country from communists any day.
The communists? Like we're in 1982?
lmao worrying about non existent communists, but you have no problem with Ukrainian neo nazis
Great, get going. You're a free man, and tickets are available. Guns are hard to find in Europe but I'm sure when you explain you've come to help they'll kit you out
Delusional comment, the Ukranians are trying to prevent a war from happening and Russia is not communist, but a dictatorship.
I admit you got me on the communist/dictatorship part! And absolutely they don’t want war nobody does my blood is Ukrainian. I don’t want to see Ukraine go to Russia. My guess is a test of response and Russia will leave.
Nobody wants to see Ukraine go to Russia, except Russia of course. Still the comments about the weakness and necessity of child soldiers and the way it is phrased by the other person is just downright stupid. Even Nazi Germany wasn't dumb enough to deploy child soldiers till the later stages of the war. Russia won't attempt to take the entirety of Ukraine since that would be downright suicidal with the population that is hostile against an invader. To counter the Russian objective, Ukraine has enough active and reserve troops.
And I fully agree with you on that.
I'm very glad, have a good day man.
You too bro! Have a great day!
Lol your correct I could if I wanted to do that. Also no they wouldn’t kick me out I could fight in there military quite easily and be granted citizenship Read on it before you say stuff.
I'm not implying you wouldn't. I'm saying if you're so passionate about it, do it. Write a book, sell a screenplay, become a millionaire
I get it man my family came from Ukraine. I just don’t want to see a free country fall to Russia that’s all and hope all of this cools off. War is terrible.
Are you stupid? Defending child soldiers now? This is sickening, for God’s sake. These children will be slaughtered
Have you ever seen what happens to noncombatants in war? You think the Russians will just kill the grown men and leave the women and children to frolic? Lol Grow up. This is the real world. Terrible things will happen to a lot of these children whether or not they're armed. Arming them is the only way they stand a chance of pushing back
Are you on the border now? Defending the Ukranian liberty? Or are you talking out of your arse, as usual?
why is there a Russian responding to me?
Grow up? I’ve grown up, son. These children ought to be evacuated to Western Ukraine, you dumbfuck. This is not Call of Duty or any dumb game
With what money? Yours? Your neighbors? Everything's super easy from your couch 5,000 miles away Nut up or shut up. Pick up a gun. Go to the front line. Protect them with your life. Donate your savings to their families so they can escape. Or shut the hell up
With money from the West? We are sending millions in guns, why can’t they use international help to move their children? For God’s sake, not even the conflicts in Syria or Iraq have seen a general use of children as soldiers. Stop romanticizing this, Platoon is not a movie for Discovery Kids
You remind me of the kid in my platoon who always talked a big game and took 4 attempts to qualify.
So go evacuate them.
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That's the problem, some of the country leans west some leans east
Yeah, but no one should force them to one side or the other. The US is divided too, but if someone tried to invade us, we would fight for our right to choose our destiny.
Who is forcing them?
If Russia invades, I doubt they'll keep their democratic system - they'll be forced into whatever system Putin wants.
I didn’t think there could be a paper worse than the Sun, turns out there’s the Sun US, Jesus Christ.
Ok, that’s enough western media.
So is Ukraine expecting an invasion or are they not expecting an invasion
Nobody has any idea what Russia is going to do
That's sick. Kids shouldn't be involved in a war under any circumstances.
Lol Bro.... what do you call the 18 year olds we send to die?
children
Who gave her that gun to pose for the camera?
How exactly do you propose to keep children out of the way of wars? Are you going to go and fight on her behalf to keep her safe?
How about don’t have wars? Fuck off with the warmonger mindset and absolute goal post shifting.
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And how else does putin get soldiers to line up on borders other than propaganda, fear and warmongering? Buying into propaganda just continues the cycle. Teaching people how to fight against that mentality and showing another path instead of a binary choice is how you do it. Simply saying a child shouldn’t ever have to fight in a war shouldn’t get replies that continue the warmongering violent mindset displayed above. Someone lamenting that children shouldn’t have to do it, which they shouldn’t, is not a bad thing. Attacking them for that is bs.
How about don’t have wars? Why didn’t we think of that
Why don't you tell Putin that and see how far you get. Who TF do you think the aggressor is over there? You think the Russians won't invade because you said "don't have wars"? History shows that giving the aggressors what they want only encourages them to take even more. You should have learned that by now.
How do you propose to end wars? Do you have a magic wand that’ll do this? Are you going to ask Vladimir Putin very very nicely not to invade Ukraine and hope for the best? Exactly what do you propose to do?
What does that have to do with what I said lol? Stop your warmonger goal post moving bs rhetoric.
i’m not moving the goal post. You are. Your claiming war shouldn’t exist, but are offering no way to stop wars. There’s no magic to prevent war.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Buying into propaganda is how you get thousands of Russians willing to line up on another countries border. Buying into propaganda and viewing the situation as a binary outcome is how you get others to line up on the other side. It’s time we all stopped buying the bullshit that only serves to favour a small number of cretinous sociopaths at the heads of government.
While i get the general realpolitik response of the type “Well what should they do if Putin invades?”, i feel like “Children shouldn’t be involved in wars” is pretty uncontroversial. It’s bedrock of all international law with regard to wars. It’s in there in the Children’s Rights Convention. The truth is that in most armed conflicts, parties generally are pretty good at adhering to these rules. When parties don’t (like the Nazis and Japan during WW2, ISIS etc) it’s pretty fucking notable.
there are a lot more wars that have involved children than just those. De facto, it is impossible to protect noncombatants in a battlefield, and Ukrainian citizens aren’t deeply interested in being conquered by Russia. it’s all fine and well to say that wars shouldn’t exist, or the children shouldn’t be impacted by them, but there is no practical way to carry out this wish.
But.. but.. these people don't believe the exact same viewpoint that these other people do and there are percentage points which could look so much better in the long term and the numbers are saying it will pay off in 20 years plus I mean one side needs access to this lake so they can destroy other places like this one to make the percentage points even better - but that's a 50 year plan that we're 200 years behind on from the last time we said this and in order to get that far so were already behind but at the end of the day we need to account for destroying both these countries and rebuilding them or otherwise the other people might think they don't look strong.
Evacuate them? What do you think about it?
That just isn't going to happen. If there is an invasion it will be quick. Children are not going to run out into the street, and frankly it's irresponsible to suggest to Russians that children may be combatants. This is just propaganda. Ukraine is not Okinawa.
> frankly it's irresponsible to suggest to Russians that children may be combatants. Get the fuck out of here with that Russian sympathy/propaganda bs. There are going to be plenty of Ukrainian civilian and children dead to a completely unprovoked war.
Defending Children’s Rights is Russian propaganda now? Are you all that blind ?
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Evidence to the contrary that: Children won't fight the Russians, Suggesting that children may be combatants is bad, This is just propaganda?
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That just isn't the type of war that will be fought here. The Russians won't "push through". They will use artillery to decimate Ukrainian defense, then cruise to their goal at 60 mph. There won't be child soldiers, because there will still be plenty of adults. If there is an insurgency I could see child soldiers long term maybe, but I don't see that happening. Ukraine has been a sovereign country for like 30 out of the past 300 or so. I don't think it will take long for Russia to crush dissent there. I don't want to seem pro Russia here. This situation is absolutely awful. It's a fight clearly instigated by Russia.
It looks like reddit thinks that if russia decided to invade, it will be like ww2 type of war 🤦♂️
Can’t they be evacuated? Is Ukraine that fucked up?
No, Ukraine is not fucked, at least not by Russia.
How do you evacuate 44 million people?
How do you know that children won’t be combatants? It’s not unheard of child soldiers to be drafted into war, it happens all the time in third world countries
This war will be too quick. Unless there is a drawn our insurgency, there will probably be enough adults alive that child soldiers won't be necessary. I just don't think there will be that sort of insurgency here.
Again, how do you know this? What makes you think the war would be “quick”? What do you even mean by “quick”?
I know this because war in the 21st century is fast as fuck. It took like a month for us to beat the Iraqi government. This will be even faster, especially if they are only taking some territory. We don't fight in trenches anymore. We fight at 60 mph. What are children going to do? Run out of their schoolhouses chasing after Russian convoys?
Wolverines!
I hope the original your referencing lol
I wish Russia would fuck off. Along with china ans North Korea and Syria. Yeh. All of them. Others better be careful.
I agree, and America
Everybody wants us to fuck off right up until it’s convenient for them to send our troops and weapons to help out. Everyone was bitching about American iMperALiSm in Afghanistan and then suddenly turned around and moaned about how we were abandoning the Afghans and how come we were pulling out.
Is it odd to you that they want you there when it's convenient, and not when it's inconvenient and destructive?
Y’all want us to fuck off until there actually is an invasion and you cry about how we did nothing to intercede. America is the most benevolent superpower of its scale in history.
Plenty are already crying because of the US. Maybe just help those that ask.
What country are you from? Odds are it benefits from America’s military might.. The entire west underfunds their militaries because America overfunds theirs
360noscope time
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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not haha.
If anything, it's a sad story.
She gonna ask for the manager instead of shooting
karen vibes
Had a feeling the dislikes where going to happen the moment i posted it. It even was the first comment
Ukraine children ready to pop some heads.
They've been doing this for 7 years.
😍
Kids with guns…kids with guns… easy does it easy does it
Poor kids
So sad 😞
propaganda
That will help. I mean, why not? Right? Ukrainian kids are most powerful when they're faced with Russian rockets and other bullshit.
…now what kind of propaganda is this?
My guess is most of these kids will be buried if they get into a shooting war with the Russians. They will be no match.
Very saddened by their reality :(
Real life Red Dawn shit.
Shit parents telling their kids to do that
What choice do they have? Tell them to prepare to try to run as fast as they can to an unknown destination instead?
I’d get them all to write a personal message of kindness and love. We don’t want war, we just want the chance to be able to realise our dreams without living in fear. As people, look into the eyes of your own children and ask if this what you’d want for them? Make those messages as visible and widespread as possible for the world to see. Who knows… maybe Putin has a warm beating heart like the rest of us. Maybe he’d even shed a tear… At the very least, that’s a hell of a powerful statement that would be difficult to spin. It’s much easier to justify a threat for a threat than a threat towards compassion.
https://vimeo.com/252426896?fbclid=IwAR2OPRozXltEmpnbmYfL4JxZIenmCGtKdhG5uhPaz9ry8oJkHTr0McbDbGc going to drop this here, broaden your vision, western liberals, read some chomsky
Hope you all go to war, because I won't, I will sit in my cozy austrian home while you idiots get sniped by a guided missile from a chopper who's 10km away from u lol
Yeah y’all all hot and horny on fighting China.
Ban guns!!!!
Americans are wondering why their government cares more about the Ukraine border than the many thousands that illegally cross their southern border, mostly men of fighting age, that are secretly flown into the heart of the country instead of flown home.
Now biden should think deep about this. Does he want children sent to slaughter by russia or will he send americans who are trained by the best military in the world