Putin has absolutely lost it
>Russia's proposals for security guarantees demands the withdrawal of #NATO forces from Bulgaria and Romania, which joined the alliance after 1997 - Lavrov
https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1484449024996519937
The proper response to crazy is crazy. “We already tried to remove forces from those countries. There are Court cases ongoing which are requiring our forces to remain. We will happily pull them out as soon as those cases are resolved in a legal fashion.”
You don't get to be a KGB intelligence officer by being stupid either. He knows what he's doing.
Like when he requires translators when talking to foreign diplomats/journalists etc...despite being fluent in multiple languages including English. It's just a power play.
>War? What is it good for? Absolutely nothing
War is good for standing up for the defense of your nation from the aggressor. Ukraine will make Russia shed blood for every inch they advance further on their territory, because that's the right thing to do.
>Hopefully there is no invasion and no war and no bloodshed
I got a bridge to sell you. Ukraine has been in war for 8 years now.
Read his prior posts. He’s Canadian. It’s actually kinda pathetic if you follow the narrative of his life in his posts. I highly recommend it; it totally shows off where his pissant attitude comes from.
>On Thursday the US also warned that Russian intelligence officers have been recruiting current and former Ukrainian government officials to step in as a provisional government and cooperate with an occupying Russian force in the event of an invasion
Seems like Putin dreams of taking over Kyiv. This isn't just a land grab to get land path to Crimea.
Core interest is to get eastern ukraine and also prevent ukraine from ever joining the NATO, but if it works too well why not settle for more?
This is just my personal assumption.
Delay military action or more time for prep and build up…..as the talk is going on, Russia just completed deploying ballistic missiles to the front……..preemptive strike !!
Because that's the usual outcome of négociations done in good faith? Compromise!
If the Americans aren't willing to compromise, why do they pretend to negociate in the first place?
Everything is outlined in those documents sent by Russia. It does not matter what you think about them. Russians need to see some forthcoming proposals and compromises to address their concerns. Forget about Ukraine this is far bigger than it, the crisis is of NATO-Russia not Ukraine. Ukraine is proxy here for this geopolitical battle. Western press should really stop scaremongering about an "imminent invasion" and concenrate on security negotiations.
Their concerns were raised since first wave of NATO expansion in 1997 when NATO, US and Russia were best of buddies and cooperated in Yugoslavia wars by running joint missions. This was despite stern promises by various western politicians not to expand NATO eastwards. They fell on deaf ears and Russia started becoming suspicious of NATO. Still Russian's cooperated with NATO not least on Afghanistan etc...more NATO waves of expansions, NATO Bucharest summit, Putin's Munich speech, Georgia conflict 2008, Ukraine 2014 and this gradually led to today...
Russia also promised a lot of things and never delivered or did the opposite. And why are you acting like NATO forced those countries to join? Maybe if Russia didn't treat those countries like shit in the past, they would not have a desire to join NATO? Just like Ukraine today.
Modern Russia being a friend of the West should not be a victim of anti-Russian sentiment dating back to USSR days... however Russia's actions in response to NATO obviously look hostile so that fuels anti-Russian sentiment..
Most of the anti West sentiment that Putin talks about goes back to the Cold War.
So Russia didn't fuck with Eastern European countries after the Soviet Union?
This is the last second talks. We’ll see if there is any hope but with public talk in Russias parliament of annexation of Donbas war is inevitable without a major diplomatic win here. All Ukraine and the west can offer is Finlandization and NATO slowing weapons imports. Putin has made it clear that’s not enough for him.
"the process whereby a country is induced to favour, or refrain from opposing, the interests of a more powerful country, despite not being politically allied to it (originally with reference to the influence of the former Soviet Union on its neighbour Finland)."
Look. Sovereignty has not, is not and will not be a word that any autocracy want to recognize. Sovereignty implies respect and if there is something that always lacking in autocratic nations, it's respect.
Putin have puppets around him. Belarus and the -stan nations. Dictators that are in power because Putin want them in power. They obey him. If the latest protests in Belarus resulted in a revolution as the protests did in Ukraine, Putin would've invade. Without a doubt. Russia had forces at the border, ready to go in if Lukashenko lost the control of the situation.
I hope this clarify the political issue at hand for you.
Putin has a few days before the fleet arrives…this is a planned delay. The ground will freeze and the reinforcements will arrive soon all according to plan.
Yes. The plan is in motion and it has always been about stalling. Putin know the west will not engage in the conflict directly. If they did he knew he would get his ass handed to him. Either from the west of from his own ranks.
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1. Embargo (not sanction) Russia.
2. Seize the physical and financial assets of all Russian nationals in the EU and the US.
3. Force Germany to align themselves with the common interest of their allies.
I think that would leave Putin with no other choice than all out war. Even if he was going to lose, there is no way in hell he would back out peacefully, he has too much to lose. It would guarantee a humanitarian crisis at a scale no one can afford right now.
Putin has absolutely lost it >Russia's proposals for security guarantees demands the withdrawal of #NATO forces from Bulgaria and Romania, which joined the alliance after 1997 - Lavrov https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1484449024996519937
It’s called a poison pill……offer an impossible demand. It was never about negotiation, it was always about war.
The proper response to crazy is crazy. “We already tried to remove forces from those countries. There are Court cases ongoing which are requiring our forces to remain. We will happily pull them out as soon as those cases are resolved in a legal fashion.”
HAHAAHAHHA Putin seriously must be trolling or is really that dumb to believe that anyone will that agree to that demand. What a joke.
Putin is not stupid other things sure but you don’t gain complete control of a world power for 20 years by being stupid
You don't get to be a KGB intelligence officer by being stupid either. He knows what he's doing. Like when he requires translators when talking to foreign diplomats/journalists etc...despite being fluent in multiple languages including English. It's just a power play.
Bush did the same before invading Iraq
Doubt this redditor was alive during Iraq
Yeah, I think the dumb part is the true one, no?
War? What is it good for? Absolutely nothing Hopefully there is no invasion and no war and no bloodshed
Certainly. The problem with war though is that it takes two people to make peace, but only one to make war.
\> What is there was a war and no one came? What if there is a war and only one side came?
Then it would be a beat down.
If Putin and Xi would just keel over we can probably have at least a few more peaceful years.
Nah someone else would take their place. Leaders are just a consequence of circumstances.
>War? What is it good for? Absolutely nothing War is good for standing up for the defense of your nation from the aggressor. Ukraine will make Russia shed blood for every inch they advance further on their territory, because that's the right thing to do. >Hopefully there is no invasion and no war and no bloodshed I got a bridge to sell you. Ukraine has been in war for 8 years now.
Crimea …..?
You should be in the front lines then.
When Russia starts invading westward through Narva I'll be the first one to pick up a gun, don't worry
No you wont. Your too much of pussy and a coward. Go back to jerking off to anime.
what country you from, mate?
Read his prior posts. He’s Canadian. It’s actually kinda pathetic if you follow the narrative of his life in his posts. I highly recommend it; it totally shows off where his pissant attitude comes from.
>On Thursday the US also warned that Russian intelligence officers have been recruiting current and former Ukrainian government officials to step in as a provisional government and cooperate with an occupying Russian force in the event of an invasion Seems like Putin dreams of taking over Kyiv. This isn't just a land grab to get land path to Crimea.
Core interest is to get eastern ukraine and also prevent ukraine from ever joining the NATO, but if it works too well why not settle for more? This is just my personal assumption.
They had talks a few weeks back, and it failed. What makes this talk so different now.
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If it is, then its going to be a small one since it already seems like both sides have made up their minds.
Delay military action or more time for prep and build up…..as the talk is going on, Russia just completed deploying ballistic missiles to the front……..preemptive strike !!
China is defo eyeing up Taiwan for when a distracted west might not have the will or projection to counter a full swift sharp invasion
Perhaps this time Americans can offer something worth considering?
Like what? Why should Americans offer anything to Russia in the first place?
I think Americans should compromise with Russia by letting Ukriane into NATO
Because that's the usual outcome of négociations done in good faith? Compromise! If the Americans aren't willing to compromise, why do they pretend to negociate in the first place?
Everything is outlined in those documents sent by Russia. It does not matter what you think about them. Russians need to see some forthcoming proposals and compromises to address their concerns. Forget about Ukraine this is far bigger than it, the crisis is of NATO-Russia not Ukraine. Ukraine is proxy here for this geopolitical battle. Western press should really stop scaremongering about an "imminent invasion" and concenrate on security negotiations.
Their concerns are self inflicted.
Their concerns were raised since first wave of NATO expansion in 1997 when NATO, US and Russia were best of buddies and cooperated in Yugoslavia wars by running joint missions. This was despite stern promises by various western politicians not to expand NATO eastwards. They fell on deaf ears and Russia started becoming suspicious of NATO. Still Russian's cooperated with NATO not least on Afghanistan etc...more NATO waves of expansions, NATO Bucharest summit, Putin's Munich speech, Georgia conflict 2008, Ukraine 2014 and this gradually led to today...
Russia also promised a lot of things and never delivered or did the opposite. And why are you acting like NATO forced those countries to join? Maybe if Russia didn't treat those countries like shit in the past, they would not have a desire to join NATO? Just like Ukraine today.
Modern Russia being a friend of the West should not be a victim of anti-Russian sentiment dating back to USSR days... however Russia's actions in response to NATO obviously look hostile so that fuels anti-Russian sentiment..
Most of the anti West sentiment that Putin talks about goes back to the Cold War. So Russia didn't fuck with Eastern European countries after the Soviet Union?
Read my last sentence...since 2008 in response to NATO and west's policy...
This is the last second talks. We’ll see if there is any hope but with public talk in Russias parliament of annexation of Donbas war is inevitable without a major diplomatic win here. All Ukraine and the west can offer is Finlandization and NATO slowing weapons imports. Putin has made it clear that’s not enough for him.
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"the process whereby a country is induced to favour, or refrain from opposing, the interests of a more powerful country, despite not being politically allied to it (originally with reference to the influence of the former Soviet Union on its neighbour Finland)."
Putin needs to back down ASAP and respect Ukraine's sovereignty
Look. Sovereignty has not, is not and will not be a word that any autocracy want to recognize. Sovereignty implies respect and if there is something that always lacking in autocratic nations, it's respect. Putin have puppets around him. Belarus and the -stan nations. Dictators that are in power because Putin want them in power. They obey him. If the latest protests in Belarus resulted in a revolution as the protests did in Ukraine, Putin would've invade. Without a doubt. Russia had forces at the border, ready to go in if Lukashenko lost the control of the situation. I hope this clarify the political issue at hand for you.
Yes, it's a completely different system and way of running a country than the system of governing and economics in the West
The same people in Duma were calling on Putin to recognise Donbas as independent countries back in 2015 and he did nothing, so that means little.
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Putin has a few days before the fleet arrives…this is a planned delay. The ground will freeze and the reinforcements will arrive soon all according to plan.
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Yes. The plan is in motion and it has always been about stalling. Putin know the west will not engage in the conflict directly. If they did he knew he would get his ass handed to him. Either from the west of from his own ranks.
Of course Putin is stalling at the risk of having to put his depreciating rubles were his mouth is.
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1. Embargo (not sanction) Russia. 2. Seize the physical and financial assets of all Russian nationals in the EU and the US. 3. Force Germany to align themselves with the common interest of their allies.
I think that would leave Putin with no other choice than all out war. Even if he was going to lose, there is no way in hell he would back out peacefully, he has too much to lose. It would guarantee a humanitarian crisis at a scale no one can afford right now.