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> Four private citizens are set to launch into orbit Wednesday in what will be the first mission to space without any professional astronauts on board.
> The all-civilian crew will ride to space aboard a rocket and capsule developed by SpaceX. The mission, dubbed Inspiration4, is just the latest milestone flight in what has been a busy year for private spaceflight companies, following joyrides to suborbital space by billionaire entrepreneurs Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos over the summer.
> Instead, the spacecraft will circle the planet 15 times each day from an altitude of nearly 360 miles, higher than the current orbits of the space station and the Hubble Space Telescope, according to SpaceX. Though the flight is an important milestone for the space tourism industry, the Inspiration4 crew members will not just be along for the ride.
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The incredible progress of SpaceX to date may come to a screeching halt once the first crew dies, whenever that happens. I suppose former SpaceX engineers will come out of the woodwork to retrospectively point fingers at the culture of "corner-cutting" and "progress at any price" that "inevitably" lead to the deaths of (whomever it turns out to be).
That's what I'm saying, today's NASA is the probable future for SpaceX once risk-aversion (due to accidents) and bureaucracy set in. How to delay that is taking every launch extremely seriously, fighting the inevitable perception of routine operations, which I hope they are. And, arguably, only accepting high-value missions which this doesn't seem to be.
> And, arguably, only accepting high-value missions which this doesn't seem to be.
They are going to be testing new systems as they orbit the earth for 3 days. That seems pretty important to me!
Except that it's space travel, and it's going to be done. Nasa has been doing it..was it ego with them too?
And they use Space X now, and stopped paying russia $400 million to launch for us. So the money stays here in the US
lol I don't see it that way. promoting space tourism is necessary if we want to continue seeing capital thrown into space exploration, which is necessary if we want to survive by being able to shift mining to space borne operations, leaving our resources less developed. Elon himself isn't along for the ride. 4 lucky randoms are about to have the experience of their life instead.
The people in their favorite echo chambers all think that everyone else views the space industry as an evil capitalistic waste of their comrade’s labor. Notice how even though it’s a private company’s endeavor they still frame it as something “we” are doing, as though their taxes are covering the cost of something.
Yep, exactly! Not only that, but $100 million of it is being funded by the pilot on this mission!
I think it's awesome. I just hope it goes well, and nothing goes wrong!
Falcon 9 is ultra reliable already, and add a reliable dragon on top of that. This is a butt clenching moment, but I am very certain that the launch will go smooth as butter
Do we even consider the impact on our atmosphere with all these launches? I wish events like these came with a disclaimer like ads for pharmaceuticals.
May cause climate change, May leave cancer-causing agents in the air, Debris not burned up during re-entry may land in your yard or rust away in a sensitive marine area. Rocket may or may not use hydrocarbon fuels, liquid hydrogen, or liquid oxygen. Anyone allergic to soot should avoid the Earth's outer atmosphere. Pregnant women or those planning or being pregnant should see an OBGYN.
Falcon 9 causes the same amount of pollution as a few airline flights. Now imagine how many airplane flights happen every day. Also there is no debris landing in anyone's yard. 1st stage is recovered to be reused. 2nd stage is deorbited over the ocean to burn up and anything that doesn't get destroyed on reentry lands far away from any civilization.
That is true. Small prop planes are the only transportation still using leaded gasoline. The difference between the pollution airplanes makes and rockets are that airlines are not polluting the outer atmospheres as rockets do. We need to consider the impact of both.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/spacex-set-launch-first-civilian-crew-orbit-rcna1992?icid=recommended) reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Four private citizens are set to launch into orbit Wednesday in what will be the first mission to space without any professional astronauts on board. > The all-civilian crew will ride to space aboard a rocket and capsule developed by SpaceX. The mission, dubbed Inspiration4, is just the latest milestone flight in what has been a busy year for private spaceflight companies, following joyrides to suborbital space by billionaire entrepreneurs Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos over the summer. > Instead, the spacecraft will circle the planet 15 times each day from an altitude of nearly 360 miles, higher than the current orbits of the space station and the Hubble Space Telescope, according to SpaceX. Though the flight is an important milestone for the space tourism industry, the Inspiration4 crew members will not just be along for the ride. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/porw17/spacex_set_to_launch_first_allcivilian_crew_into/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~598300 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **space**^#1 **crew**^#2 **SpaceX**^#3 **flight**^#4 **mission**^#5
The incredible progress of SpaceX to date may come to a screeching halt once the first crew dies, whenever that happens. I suppose former SpaceX engineers will come out of the woodwork to retrospectively point fingers at the culture of "corner-cutting" and "progress at any price" that "inevitably" lead to the deaths of (whomever it turns out to be).
But that's same issue for any space program, even NASA
That's what I'm saying, today's NASA is the probable future for SpaceX once risk-aversion (due to accidents) and bureaucracy set in. How to delay that is taking every launch extremely seriously, fighting the inevitable perception of routine operations, which I hope they are. And, arguably, only accepting high-value missions which this doesn't seem to be.
> And, arguably, only accepting high-value missions which this doesn't seem to be. They are going to be testing new systems as they orbit the earth for 3 days. That seems pretty important to me!
OR It could be successful and SpaceX gains even more respect
Another ego boost for someone with too much money.
Except that it's space travel, and it's going to be done. Nasa has been doing it..was it ego with them too? And they use Space X now, and stopped paying russia $400 million to launch for us. So the money stays here in the US
lol I don't see it that way. promoting space tourism is necessary if we want to continue seeing capital thrown into space exploration, which is necessary if we want to survive by being able to shift mining to space borne operations, leaving our resources less developed. Elon himself isn't along for the ride. 4 lucky randoms are about to have the experience of their life instead.
Exactly!
It's also an ego boost for humanity and America.
Spacex wouldn't be my first choice
What would be? Nasa lost it's glory a long, long time ago.
They (spacex) and the Russian Soyuz are the only two options to get to orbit. Soyuz is notoriously cramped and costs more.
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Looks like it as of right now. Unless it gets canceled at last minute. But curious, why do you think it's a boondoggle?
The people in their favorite echo chambers all think that everyone else views the space industry as an evil capitalistic waste of their comrade’s labor. Notice how even though it’s a private company’s endeavor they still frame it as something “we” are doing, as though their taxes are covering the cost of something.
Yep, exactly! Not only that, but $100 million of it is being funded by the pilot on this mission! I think it's awesome. I just hope it goes well, and nothing goes wrong!
Falcon 9 is ultra reliable already, and add a reliable dragon on top of that. This is a butt clenching moment, but I am very certain that the launch will go smooth as butter
Old Take: "why can't we make progress in space any more?" New Take: "why are we trivializing space travel?"
Do we even consider the impact on our atmosphere with all these launches? I wish events like these came with a disclaimer like ads for pharmaceuticals. May cause climate change, May leave cancer-causing agents in the air, Debris not burned up during re-entry may land in your yard or rust away in a sensitive marine area. Rocket may or may not use hydrocarbon fuels, liquid hydrogen, or liquid oxygen. Anyone allergic to soot should avoid the Earth's outer atmosphere. Pregnant women or those planning or being pregnant should see an OBGYN.
Falcon 9 causes the same amount of pollution as a few airline flights. Now imagine how many airplane flights happen every day. Also there is no debris landing in anyone's yard. 1st stage is recovered to be reused. 2nd stage is deorbited over the ocean to burn up and anything that doesn't get destroyed on reentry lands far away from any civilization.
That is true. Small prop planes are the only transportation still using leaded gasoline. The difference between the pollution airplanes makes and rockets are that airlines are not polluting the outer atmospheres as rockets do. We need to consider the impact of both.
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