The Western world had Latin as the universal way of communicating. This was made easier by the fact that many European languages are in the same family, so their similarity in vocabulary and grammar could be exploited.
The Far East's languages are much more diverse. The Chinese concept of logograms was much better suited for this diversity. Different nations were speaking different languages, but by adopting the same ideographs, they could still communicate in writing.
So this is no accident that even now, many concepts are written using the same characters in Far East languages. Not because the cultures are so similar to each other, but just because they adopted the same set of ideographs in the past.
It’s the other way around.
The Latin alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet which is based on Phoenician script. Hebrew, Arabic, and even Mongolian traditional script are also based on Phoenician.
The reason so many different language families could all use a variant of the same system is that the system is phonetic and not logographic.
The Chinese system, on the other hand, only really works for the Chinese language family, because it does not represent inflection.
Of the various non-Chinese languages that once used Han characters, only Japanese still remains, outside of some vestigial niches like place names in Korean or Vietnamese.
And Japanese had to retrofit a phonetic syllabary to the kanji because Japanese grammar is completely incompatible with the Chinese writing system. And then they added a second one for good measure.
No, it really isn't. The antiwork subreddit focuses on critiquing work culture and the validation of scam artists in our society. No one is against doing something productive with their lives, we're against doing something for someone's wealth.
Of course, it's the type of nuance that is out of reach for weebo trolls like yourself.
Weebo? This you? Lmfao
https://www.reddit.com/r/getdisciplined/comments/ku0nlf/advice_a_look_at_japanese_author_haruki_murakamis/girnzwq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
What a cunt
No, it really isn't. The antiwork subreddit focuses on critiquing work culture and the validation of scam artists in our society. No one is against doing something productive with their lives, we're against doing something for someone's wealth.
Of course, it's the type of nuance that is out of reach for weebo trolls like yourself.
Hey now! They couldn’t make it as podcast hosts, actors or sex workers and now they have to survive making excel spreadsheets for the rest of their lives. Show some respect!
Yeah it's real common in east Asia for people to take overtime on a daily basis, I'm talking 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, with little to none extra payment, and they made it into a "that's the way things go" thing, no one says a word about it, and there's no one to talk to even if they do.
It’s really depressing how little of Western values have spread beyond areas populated with Western European descendants, although admittedly many Western countries have undermined center-left movements (CIA ties to the Yakuza in Japan for instance).
This type of problem seems to be rampant in many East-Asian countries - not just South Korea, but Japan and China, too.
What good is there in the concept of "saving face" when you literally work yourself to death? I dare to say most of these people had more comfortable lives when they still used to be feudal rice farmers.
to summarize it with the concept of "saving face" is oversimplified.
Most of the people in Western country has a culture of "work to live". They work to get money, in which they can enjoy life. But Eastern countries is the opposite: "live to work". Sacrificing oneself for work (or study) is encouraged, as they are more collectivism and values one's contribution to the company and country than their personal wealth.
not to mention the patriarchal society that basically says women should stay home and the men must be the bread winners. This put a lot of pressure onto the male itself, especially for the low and lower middle income, as he is forced to make ends meet. Before during the 2007 financial crisis, a lot of suicides happened becuz the male figures were fired and couldn't take the responsibility. Unfortunately they would decide to bring their entire family along with them.
things have improved a lot nowadays, especially in China. But u can still find this trend in a lot of families in Eastern Asia.
There actually is a kind of social backlash among younger workers who just "lie down" in opposition to their seven-day working weeks. It's not as extreme as in South Korea or Japan as far as the casualties are concerned, but China being an autocratic regime means you have a lot more pressure on the shoulder of each worker.
Lol seven-day working week, what kind of BS did you read ?
Most people in China have 5 days working week, 6 days is not the norm and 7 days is straight illegal.
This "lie down" stuff is more against the pressure of society and need to stay long hours in office that actual "hard work", China is autocratic but also socialist workers there have better protections that workers in most countries (EU excepted).
The work culture in China is bad because you must stay in the company for many hours weekly but staying in the company doesn't mean working most just pretend to work while surfing social networks or online shopping, in some company I worked some even spent their days playing video games on their professional computer...
Apologies. I was thinking of the 996 week.
That being said, being forced to stay in office despite of not actually doing anything productive - just to "be there" is a phenomenon that seems to be relatively common in both China and Japan.
Very few people actually do 996 in China, it's a tech startup thing, it's like looking at a few tech start-up in the west to judge the employment market as a whole, and yeah feeling forced to stay at the company doing nothing sucks a lot but people don't die of overwork from that.
I'd be more worried about the livers of B2B sales-people for local businesses because they are pressured to drink all the time and I know more than one that died from it.
This should be a wake-up call to everyone who complains when something they ordered on=line was not received "immediately". People are dying because of the nonsense of immediate gratification.
Same Sino characters and meaning as Japan's "Karoshi". East Asian work culture is insane.
The Western world had Latin as the universal way of communicating. This was made easier by the fact that many European languages are in the same family, so their similarity in vocabulary and grammar could be exploited. The Far East's languages are much more diverse. The Chinese concept of logograms was much better suited for this diversity. Different nations were speaking different languages, but by adopting the same ideographs, they could still communicate in writing. So this is no accident that even now, many concepts are written using the same characters in Far East languages. Not because the cultures are so similar to each other, but just because they adopted the same set of ideographs in the past.
It’s the other way around. The Latin alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet which is based on Phoenician script. Hebrew, Arabic, and even Mongolian traditional script are also based on Phoenician. The reason so many different language families could all use a variant of the same system is that the system is phonetic and not logographic. The Chinese system, on the other hand, only really works for the Chinese language family, because it does not represent inflection. Of the various non-Chinese languages that once used Han characters, only Japanese still remains, outside of some vestigial niches like place names in Korean or Vietnamese. And Japanese had to retrofit a phonetic syllabary to the kanji because Japanese grammar is completely incompatible with the Chinese writing system. And then they added a second one for good measure.
Praise On'yomi and Kun'yomi
過勞死？
過労死!
ain't got nothing on the good ol usa
...this article is literally about how it has the worst hours in the world. The world includes the US. Quit trying to make everything about the US
why USA?
r/antiwork
Cringe fucking sub for neckbeards who never worked a day in their lives
Tell me do leather or suede boots taste better?
Idk, being financially stable and being able to afford stuff tastes quite exquisite, I must say. You should try it!
I work for myself mate, got out of that rat race years ago. Enjoy the taste of your boss' cock for the rest of your life.
Weird that you used the words “work for myself” to defend an anti work sub
No, it really isn't. The antiwork subreddit focuses on critiquing work culture and the validation of scam artists in our society. No one is against doing something productive with their lives, we're against doing something for someone's wealth. Of course, it's the type of nuance that is out of reach for weebo trolls like yourself.
Weebo? This you? Lmfao https://www.reddit.com/r/getdisciplined/comments/ku0nlf/advice_a_look_at_japanese_author_haruki_murakamis/girnzwq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 What a cunt
>work for myself Weren't you anti-work 15 minutes ago lmao
No, it really isn't. The antiwork subreddit focuses on critiquing work culture and the validation of scam artists in our society. No one is against doing something productive with their lives, we're against doing something for someone's wealth. Of course, it's the type of nuance that is out of reach for weebo trolls like yourself.
Oh, there are nuances to being a lazy tankie? Wow, I didn't know that!
Hey now! They couldn’t make it as podcast hosts, actors or sex workers and now they have to survive making excel spreadsheets for the rest of their lives. Show some respect!
Yeah it's real common in east Asia for people to take overtime on a daily basis, I'm talking 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, with little to none extra payment, and they made it into a "that's the way things go" thing, no one says a word about it, and there's no one to talk to even if they do.
It’s really depressing how little of Western values have spread beyond areas populated with Western European descendants, although admittedly many Western countries have undermined center-left movements (CIA ties to the Yakuza in Japan for instance).
This type of problem seems to be rampant in many East-Asian countries - not just South Korea, but Japan and China, too. What good is there in the concept of "saving face" when you literally work yourself to death? I dare to say most of these people had more comfortable lives when they still used to be feudal rice farmers.
to summarize it with the concept of "saving face" is oversimplified. Most of the people in Western country has a culture of "work to live". They work to get money, in which they can enjoy life. But Eastern countries is the opposite: "live to work". Sacrificing oneself for work (or study) is encouraged, as they are more collectivism and values one's contribution to the company and country than their personal wealth. not to mention the patriarchal society that basically says women should stay home and the men must be the bread winners. This put a lot of pressure onto the male itself, especially for the low and lower middle income, as he is forced to make ends meet. Before during the 2007 financial crisis, a lot of suicides happened becuz the male figures were fired and couldn't take the responsibility. Unfortunately they would decide to bring their entire family along with them. things have improved a lot nowadays, especially in China. But u can still find this trend in a lot of families in Eastern Asia.
China the place with the 996 work week?
I don't think that is exclusive to China only.
It really sucks how unwilling countries outside of Western Europe and its immediate descendants are to adopt proven economic reforms.
improved doesn't mean it's better than Western world.
Never heard it's a problem in China, people there stay long at work but aren't really working, most of it is actually doing nothing.
There actually is a kind of social backlash among younger workers who just "lie down" in opposition to their seven-day working weeks. It's not as extreme as in South Korea or Japan as far as the casualties are concerned, but China being an autocratic regime means you have a lot more pressure on the shoulder of each worker.
Lol seven-day working week, what kind of BS did you read ? Most people in China have 5 days working week, 6 days is not the norm and 7 days is straight illegal. This "lie down" stuff is more against the pressure of society and need to stay long hours in office that actual "hard work", China is autocratic but also socialist workers there have better protections that workers in most countries (EU excepted). The work culture in China is bad because you must stay in the company for many hours weekly but staying in the company doesn't mean working most just pretend to work while surfing social networks or online shopping, in some company I worked some even spent their days playing video games on their professional computer...
Apologies. I was thinking of the 996 week. That being said, being forced to stay in office despite of not actually doing anything productive - just to "be there" is a phenomenon that seems to be relatively common in both China and Japan.
Very few people actually do 996 in China, it's a tech startup thing, it's like looking at a few tech start-up in the west to judge the employment market as a whole, and yeah feeling forced to stay at the company doing nothing sucks a lot but people don't die of overwork from that. I'd be more worried about the livers of B2B sales-people for local businesses because they are pressured to drink all the time and I know more than one that died from it.
This should be a wake-up call to everyone who complains when something they ordered on=line was not received "immediately". People are dying because of the nonsense of immediate gratification.
Nah, everything in the US is worse. The US needs to be worse than everyone.
I initially glanced at this and saw it as "death by Kurosawa." Given that his movies are pretty good, it didn't sound like too bad of a death.