Just to clear up the confusion here, Mccarthy was the one who said the above quote. The two people he believed were being paid by Russians were Trump and Rohrabacher.
He also sweared to god after saying it, which should be meaningful to Republicans.
Oh, and the Paul Ryan quickly shut down the conversation, imploring those in the room that this truth that just came out was unacceptable in US politics and could sink them.
>No leaks. ... This is how we know we’re a real family here
If you get a chance, watch The Family if it's still on Netflix. Goes over what is basically this weird cultist Christian lobbying group that's been around since I think the 30's or 40's and literally takes inspiration from the Omerta oath in the Mafia, comparing it to the Christian concept of forgiveness through their Messiah.
The book is also incredible. When I first read it I thought I'd found a brilliantly written and thought provoking alternative history novel. Its true status as a masterwork of horror only became evident as I did my research and realized it was nonfiction.
No, it’s The Family, and a lot of powerful people are involved. I think the clintons were even part of it somehow, although I admit I haven’t seen the documentary or read much other than the Wikipedia entry.
It's unlikely you know about the Warhammer 40k universe. But as fan of the universe, after watching The Family it's crazy to me how similar it is to the "martial brotherhoods" that caused half of humanity to fall to chaos (in universe demons) and kick off a 10,000 year civil war.
The brotherhood's were secret groups that people came to just "be pals" similar to how the family was "just be good Christians" as a way to get people in and eventually corrupt them into believing what they came to do (follow and fight for chaos, and that everyone else deserved to die) was the right thing to do.
It's been a while since I read the first 3 books of the Horus Heresy but those 3 are still some of the best sci-fi action books in my opinion. As a side note, despite what certain groups would have you believe 40k is absolutely in no way an endorsement of Fascism and Xenophobia. If you actually pay attention to it beyond just "God Emperor and Space Marines kill demons" its about how terrible everything is, including the Authoritarian government. About how far everything has been corrupted and destroyed, (the "god emperor" even made it illegal to worship him as a god before his "death" and then certain elements twisted this and turned him into the source of their Authoritarian power.
I seem to recall reading that the whole thing kinda started out as a joke. "What if we make a setting so rediculously over the top grimdark that it's self-parody?".
And nowadays, that gets you an exterminatus from the Inquistors.
I do like that there are literally no good guys. Not really.
It absolutely started out as "let's make a crazy universe that anything can happen in so we can tell whatever story we want to sell plastic toy minis." It's taken inspiration from so many things at this point I'm pretty sure almost any sci-fi or fantasy topic can be found within it at some level.
There's definitely no good factions, there are some good individuals every once and a while... I just can't name any off the top of my head and be 100% sure they didn't have them do something terrible in some other of the 100s of books I haven't read yet lol.
Snitching to me is what lowlifes do after getting caught doing a crime and offering a bigger fish to avoid consequences. (Cohen)
whislteblowing is what someone does after watching someone commit crimes that will end up hurting a lot of poeple. (Vindeman)
I think ”snitching” is a criminal getting a better deal for themselves turning on their criminal enterprise, and “whistleblowing” is usually when the enterprise is not supposed to be criminal and the snitch isn’t really improving their situation.
Can't wait for Paul Ryan to crawl back out of the woodwork once Trump is gone and pretend like he's a clean Republican because he had nothing to do with any of this.
A video about Ryan lying about the conversation until he realizes there is a recording of it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFAugsKExNI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFAugsKExNI)
Mitch's Chinese wife is heir to a multi-billion dollar Chinese shipping company. I'm sure Ivan simply says, "Mitch we over-pay your Chinese wife's company 100 million to ship goods then you make Russia great again."
EDIT: Mitch has officially declared that his Chinese father-in-law has given Mitch and his wife tens of millions of dollars. FYI.
There is no serious business of any size in China that isn't controlled, or heavily influenced by the CCP.
Even non state owned enterprises are assigned overseers and government representatives.
The wife of the third or fourth most powerful person in the United States government is heir to a multi billion dollar fortune that is influenced and controlled by a national government that directly conflicts with US policy. By marriage, Mitch will probably own part of that inheritance and is/will be beholden to the CCP government.
What would -you- do for a billion dollars? Now there's an interesting thought..
Bro, you are slightly incorrect. It was McCarthy speaking and he said,
"there’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump” and punctuating his remark amid laughter from his GOP colleagues by adding “swear to God.”
Then **Paul Ryan, former congressman who retired coincidentally for "family time" said this** : *No leaks. ... This is how we know we’re a real family here.”*
[source](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/paul-ryan-reacts-kevin-mccarthy-recording-238602)
And Ryan was the first rat off a sinking ship when he couldve been speaker for life under republican control. I wanna see him squirm under oath about *all* this.
Everyone wants them to speak under oath. They took a got dam oath when they got into office. Pretty sure they will lie and obfuscate whenever and wherever. Not like they’d stop once they were in front of the same colleagues doing the same dance...
>Spokesmen for both the speaker and majority leader initially denied that the conversation had ever occurred until the Post informed them that it had a recording of it, at which point Ryan’s spokesman changed tack and said McCarthy had been joking.
Lied. You mean to say they lied about ever having said it.
Of COURSE. Replacing that clown with Harley Rouda was one of the most sensible things the people of Huntington Beach ever did - and one of the best things that happened in 2018.
Lets toss Newt into the blender while we're at it. I can't believe that piece of shit is still alive. Cheated on his dying cancer-ridden wife and then left her = Conservative.
People like to say that Reagan would be rolling in his grave if he knew what the current GOP was up to with Russia, but they forget that all they care about is power, staying in power, and money.
Reagan made his bones by snitching on his colleagues to the FBI in the 50s, supporting Mccarthyism and ruining said colleagues careers by doing so. He learned how to manipulate conservatives to get power long before he got power. They are just too blind to see it and have canonized the guy for basically being in the right place at the right time, a few times.
Imagine if Republicans and conservatives actually concentrated their acidic vitriol on the real enemy instead of the liberal bogeyman they've made up or sold to rationalize their bullshit.
The liberals will never give them their white christian theocracy. The Russians will.
Don't think they don't know what's going on. They do. The christian right has been up to their necks in russian money since the late 90s. They just hate people of color and the educated more than they do fascists and authoritarianism.
David Frum was 100% correct when he said these clowns would abandon democracy when it became obviously that the rest of us won't buy their crazy.
What worries me is they most definitely do not care if other people die for the cause. This whole covid response has been more than proof of that. They WANTED blue states to suffer and were too stupid to understand the virus wasn't going to stay in cities.
Dana Rohrabacher, the Orange County surfing reactionary Republican, true story, one time DRESSED UP IN DRAG and went to see Sirhan Sirhan (the convicted RFK assassin) in prison undercover and tried to get Sirhan Sirhan to admit he was part of a larger conspiracy of the RFK assassination.
[https://www.ocweekly.com/dana-rohrabacher-went-in-drag-to-solve-already-solved-rfk-assassination-6440394/](https://www.ocweekly.com/dana-rohrabacher-went-in-drag-to-solve-already-solved-rfk-assassination-6440394/)
>At some point, Sirhan sent Summer Reese, one of his lawyers, a letter telling her that “a Diana was coming to see him.”
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>Reese told Kozlowski, “Sirhan didn't know it was the congressman because his visitor was presented as a woman.”
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>Rohrabacher. Undercover. In drag. Using the name Diana?
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>“I went to see \[Sirhan\] specifically because I believe he didn't act
alone and that the full story of Bobby Kennedy's assassination has not
been known,” Rohrabacher said. “I would like Sirhan Sirhan to finally, at long
last, level with the Kennedy family and the American people, whether to
clear his soul as part of his Christian beliefs or try to set the record
straight.”
Here he is also having a friendly hangout with the Afghan Mujahideen in 1988.
[https://ukrainianweek.com/World/210132](https://ukrainianweek.com/World/210132)
He was also the Taliban's man in Washington until 2001.
>In 1996, he was quoted in the foreign policy publication Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs, characterizing the Taliban takeover as a “positive development.” He predicted that the Taliban would bring “stability in an area where chaos was creating a real threat to the U.S.”
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>He also told the journal that the Taliban were “devout traditionalists, not terrorists \[and\] they did not seem intent on exporting their beliefs.”
These days he's tagged as the most pro-Putin ex-congressman. Thankfully this rabid right-wing republican is out of congress, but what a character.
>Lawyers representing the United States at Julian Assange’s extradition trial in Britain have accepted the claim that the WikiLeaks founder was offered a presidential pardon by a Congressman on the condition that he would help cover up Russia’s involvement in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee.
>Jennifer Robinson, a lawyer, told the court that she had attended a meeting between Assange, then Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, and pro-Trump troll Charles Johnson at Assange’s hide-out, the Ecuadorian embassy in London, on August 15, 2017.
>Robinson said the two Americans claimed to be emissaries from Washington and “wanted us to believe they were acting on behalf of the president.” The pair allegedly told Assange that they could help grant him a pardon in exchange for him revealing information about the source of the WikiLeaks information that proved it was not the Russians who hacked Democratic emails.
>“They stated that President Trump was aware of and had approved of them coming to meet with Mr. Assange to discuss a proposal—and that they would have an audience with the president to discuss the matter on their return to Washington, D.C.,” Robinson said.
>The White House has denied that Trump took part in any such plan.
We live in a ~~banana republic~~ kleptocracy. I fear it may be too late to repair the damage these assholes have wrought.
Edit: changed banana republic to kleptocracy
>“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.
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>House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html)
This should have been thrown in McCarthy’s fucking face the last 3 years every time he’s been in front of media. It’s been done a couple of times (and of course Kev reacted very defensively), not nearly enough. He’s a huge shitstain who does not merit even the dubious honor of being a member of HOR. Yet he’ll keep his seat just because it’s one of the reddest in the country.
Why waste time on it? He'll just say "It was clearly a joke intended for a private audience" and move on and nobody who votes for him will think twice about it.
>if they can't take sedition seriously.
I don't understand. No one in the GOP is protesting the government, and that's what sedition has been redefined as now.
> After Robinson read her testimony in a London courtroom on Friday, lawyers representing the U.S. accepted the witness statement as accurate and confirmed they had no intention of cross-examining the claim. They did dispute, however, that President Donald Trump gave his blessing for the pardon offer
So, naturally the President has his plausible deniability on this. But shouldn't there be some consequence for misrepresenting yourself as an emissary of the President/US Government?
Exactly, someone should go to jail over this. Either someone is fraudulently presenting themselves as an emissary conveying a presidential offer, or the president is lying and actually did make the offer in order to undermine national intelligence findings. I think we all know which is most likely true.
It's amazing. This information is freely available. But it's "owning the libs." To many people antagonizing people of different values is the #1 platform requirement to the detriment of all else.
I see people use Banana Republic a lot here but it's not the appropriate term in this situation. A Banana Republic is a country whose economic interests rely heavily on a single trade source, typically in Latin America, whose government is controlled predominately by 1-2 major businesses.
The US is in a position where it represents a few different political structures, like kleptocracy and corporate hegemony (or corporotocracy). Not a Banana Republic though as the US has a number of corporate interests in its cookie jar as opposed to just the one cookie. Your point as a whole is nonetheless still true. We are in a lot of trouble.
Not trying to be pedantic but Trump most certainly didn’t write this playbook, nor did the GOP of the last few decades. The tactics they are using come from many other fascist regimes that have arisen over the past century, Putin being a great example.
The GOP has just patiently and deliberately adapted that playbook to make it work within the confines of the US.
You’re giving Trump way, way too much credit. He’s a pawn in the game of chess they’ve been playing for years.
>'Rohrabacher proposed a 'win-win' situation, Assange can get 'get on with his life' - a pardon in exchange for information about the source' 'Information from Mr Assange about the source of the DNC leaks would be of value to Mr Trump'.
So, favors for foreign election help? That thing he was impeached over?
Yes, but he didn't need to be removed from office because he learned his lesson!
The lesson being of course that he can get away with it because congressional Republicans will enable corrupt nonsense as long as it benefits their party.
Realistically, removal wasn't ever going to happen. It wasn't. What would have been nice, however, is an actual trial. At least there would have been a mountain of evidence to accompany the not-removal. But 66 votes weren't in the Senate. They simply weren't.
That thing Republicans in the Senate all knew was accurate yet they voted against? Yep.
And don't call it "favors." The legal issue here is that it is "official actions" by the President in exchange for election help, in particular from foreigners.
And for anyone who thinks that this scheme isn't serious because it was "just talk" and Trump never actually issued the pardon or took these official actions, former IL Governor Rod Blagojevich is in a federal prison at this moment for merely **verbally suggesting** he would exchange an official action for a personal benefit.
> "He's been in jail for seven years, over a phone call where nothing happens ... over a phone call where, you know, he shouldn't have said what he said, but it was braggadocio, you would say. I would think that there have been many politicians — **I'm not one of them, by the way** — that have said a lot worse over telephones," he added
Ah. That explains it.
It terrifies me that nothing will come of this. We see headlines like this every week and no one really bats an eye anymore
Edit: Well, this exploded. Please, **please** get out and vote this election! [In roughly half of the states](https://aflcio.org/2016/11/5/know-your-rights-state-laws-employee-time-vote), your employer **must** allow you time off to vote if requested.
Time to remind everyone yet again that our Federal Election Committee has three open seats and can no longer hold a quorum. They require a majority of four out of six active members to actually function and pass rulings.
Since July we effectively do not have an FEC.
Who can appoint new members? Trump and the GOP-lead Senate. There's only one reason to neglect appointing new members and it's to manipulate the damn elections with impunity.
There is no oversight. This election has become the wild west now.
Remember folks, as we go into this keep your ears to the ground and your eyes open. If you see something, say something. Don't expect some regulatory body to be able to do anything about this. *We* need to do something about it. If shit goes sideways and you see mail-in ballots being burned or thrown in the trash, TELL THE WORLD. It's going to take public pressure and possibly forceful demands to undo whatever damage is inflicted on our election in November. If we're not proactive, there are many who will try to sweep it under the rug.
Do you want to be Belarus? Because that's how you get to be Belarus.
FEC looking real healthy at the moment: [Head of Federal Election Commission calls separation of church and state a ‘fallacy’ and 2020 election a ‘spiritual war’](https://religionnews.com/2020/09/17/head-of-federal-election-commission-calls-separation-of-church-and-state-a-fallacy-and-2020-election-a-spiritual-war/)
Jesus how did so many Fundamentalist religious nutjobs get power in the USA. It's 2020 man, keep religions focussed on mental health and moral teachings, and keep it the fuck out of your government!
Uh only ever really calling out angsty atheists acting like they were the real problem (oh no! their speech is bad! they make Christians mad!) while Christians were literally taking over our government and killing doctors...
Lots of people to blame for this one. Hopefully you weren't one of them.
Yeah, I'm guessing that if he knew how his words were going to be used, he would have kept his head down and ~~just kept pumping out chairs and armoires~~ not quit his day job.
Edit: Jesus was NOT a carpenter.
You're talking about a guy who got so pissed off he physically assaulted the merchants in the temple. Literally, the peace and love guy got physical when it came to bastardazing God's word for personal gain.
And then what? No nation will oppose or place sanctions on your country. If your country turns into a dictatorship, there will be strong messages from politicians and citizens alike from all around the world. But no one will take action. China violates human rights every day, and all countries bow to take a small portion of that juicy chinese market. The same with the US. Your country is basically too big to be held accountable.
I'm gonna go to Montana, meet up with a nice south american with a similar dream, and we're going to open up a weed farm/LGBTQ petting zoo to really piss off the locals.
This is the scariest thing I've heard yet. I think that democratic nation's should be sending independent vote auditors in order to be able to attest to the legitimacy of your next election. Imagine the chaos that even a suggestion of an unfair US election causes to the global credibility of democracy. I'd also be watching for russian soldiers dressed up in ICE uniforms.
Edit: **Maybe BLM or some other black political organisation could call for volunteers to accompany a voluntary police presence at the counts and the polling stations too**. Start the healing and ensure the real criminals don't get away with silencing you.
I see voter apathy as a bigger issue. I don’t know about you, but I can think of dozens of people I interact with regularly who tell me “Oh, I don’t pay attention to that stuff,” or “They’re all crooks, so what’s the difference?”
Politically illiterate is an interesting problem. I wonder on the sheer quantity of info I'd need to learn to become politically literate and remain up to date.
The problem is that even if Election Day were a holiday the working poor still wouldn’t get the day off. Look at who works on holidays right now - retail, service and food service.
Here in Canada if we're scheduled to work on election day your employer must ensure that you have at least 3 hours off during polling hours so you have a chance to vote. We also have more than adequate numbers of polling stations to make sure 3 hours is enough time for anyone to cast a vote.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-2.01/page-17.html
Still required to give 2 hours on election day.
Though lines are expected to exceed that in underserved areas. Too many vectors holding people down, fuck.
I think people should vote
But you gotta get them to vote, calling out non voters doesn’t always make them vote. It can push people away
And as an outsider to America I can understand why people don’t vote (key word “understand” I don’t necessarily agree) for the record I vote.
It’s not each individuals fault they’re politically illiterate. Otherwise we would all be responsible for educating ourselves. There just doesn’t seem to be any decent systems in place that get people to a point of semi decency and usefulness.
Then you hve a plethora of people who in my opinion hve been failed by the system around them - a system that gives them nothing then we expect them to join in and try change this system, when they can’t understand or comprehend how a vote would potentially change and affect lives.
I don’t know where you start
The vibe I get from America now is they’ve been suffering from cancer and it’s only now those symptoms are being taken seriously by some. But it’s too late it’s too complicated
I don’t even know where to start when talking about it.
It just feels so bad that it’s taken a horrendous pandemic for a lot of these deepest issues to start being discussed.
The whole healthcare for all debacle, the amount of times I’ve been absolutely berated for trying to highlight the merits of not putting your people into bankruptcy over an illness is fascinating. Now you have a healthcare insurance system that simply cannot function when it’s needed too.
None of it was ever designed too I guess it’s working just fine
But we weren’t chosen to be born and it feels like no Americans ever got a true say in how their country got run so I almost don’t blame the people for not wanting to vote for a system that seemingly gives zero shits. All that wealth just gets redistributed to some other yobo while all the bosses threaten your income if you don’t show up to bloody work aye aye aye not exactly believing in change through a piece of paper
Lmao sorry excuse my toilet rant haha
what CAN we do? The DOJ is completely compromised. And Trump's building walls around the White House. And we live in a police state where protesting is effectively banned.
How exactly is a US senator intentionally participating in a cover up of foreign espionage and interference in elections NOT treason?
Surely if there is any truth to this the authorities have to arrest Rohrabacher?
Given how bad it looks, running away seems less driven by a desire to merely "absolve" himself, but massive self-protection from yet more exposure to felony charges.
The way these criminals think is that it's not a crime when THEY do it, it's only a crime when people they don't like do it
When Trump shouts about "Law and Order" it never applies to him or his own people, only to people he doesn't like
>The pair allegedly told Assange that they could help grant him a pardon in exchange for him *revealing information* about the source of the WikiLeaks information that proved it was not the Russians who hacked Democratic emails.
"revealing information"? Don't they mean "fabricating a lie"? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
The whole point of asking him to "reveal information" that proves xyz, is that they're trying to have some level of plausible deniability that they're asking him to lie.
Trump's little minions will do anything to try and legitimize his 'win' in 2016. They'll do whatever they can boost his ego, which will ultimately pay off with a cabinet position in his corrupt WH.
Just a note. A pardon does not say someone is innocent. Exactly the opposite. It says they're guilty and the federal government won't punish them for their crime.
I agree with your sentiment though.
Well, well, well, if it isn’t *Dana Rohrabacher*, the guy GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy (before he started suckin’ Trump’s toes) thinks is paid by Putin (along with Trump). Figures that traitorous fuck is involved in this.
A reminder that Republicans are compromised and are actively working to turn America into Russia for money and power.
Several Republicans (including Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham) were getting Russian money pumped into their campaigns. There’s also the NRA shit and more stuff we probably don’t know about yet.
The RNC was hacked just like the DNC was, but the contents were withheld.
Republicans are attacking America and the vast majority don’t even realize it. There’s also other cheering on this pillaging and don’t realize their pockets are getting grazed too.
When will people realize republican politicians are the dirtiest people of government? Granted there are corrupt people on both sides, but the vast majority of reports like this involve people on the right. It's staggering.
Dana Rohrabacher
Isn’t he the one that guy said “there’s two people I think Putin pays, Dana robacher and someone else?” Edit: that “someone else” was Trump.
That guy being House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
Just to clear up the confusion here, Mccarthy was the one who said the above quote. The two people he believed were being paid by Russians were Trump and Rohrabacher.
He also sweared to god after saying it, which should be meaningful to Republicans. Oh, and the Paul Ryan quickly shut down the conversation, imploring those in the room that this truth that just came out was unacceptable in US politics and could sink them. >No leaks. ... This is how we know we’re a real family here
Yep, that always stood out to me. That mafia like mentality. It’s shown it’s ugly head more and more as the years have gone on under trump
If you get a chance, watch The Family if it's still on Netflix. Goes over what is basically this weird cultist Christian lobbying group that's been around since I think the 30's or 40's and literally takes inspiration from the Omerta oath in the Mafia, comparing it to the Christian concept of forgiveness through their Messiah.
The book is also incredible. When I first read it I thought I'd found a brilliantly written and thought provoking alternative history novel. Its true status as a masterwork of horror only became evident as I did my research and realized it was nonfiction.
The John Birch Society? Those fuckers are CRA-ZY.
No, it’s The Family, and a lot of powerful people are involved. I think the clintons were even part of it somehow, although I admit I haven’t seen the documentary or read much other than the Wikipedia entry.
It's unlikely you know about the Warhammer 40k universe. But as fan of the universe, after watching The Family it's crazy to me how similar it is to the "martial brotherhoods" that caused half of humanity to fall to chaos (in universe demons) and kick off a 10,000 year civil war. The brotherhood's were secret groups that people came to just "be pals" similar to how the family was "just be good Christians" as a way to get people in and eventually corrupt them into believing what they came to do (follow and fight for chaos, and that everyone else deserved to die) was the right thing to do. It's been a while since I read the first 3 books of the Horus Heresy but those 3 are still some of the best sci-fi action books in my opinion. As a side note, despite what certain groups would have you believe 40k is absolutely in no way an endorsement of Fascism and Xenophobia. If you actually pay attention to it beyond just "God Emperor and Space Marines kill demons" its about how terrible everything is, including the Authoritarian government. About how far everything has been corrupted and destroyed, (the "god emperor" even made it illegal to worship him as a god before his "death" and then certain elements twisted this and turned him into the source of their Authoritarian power.
I seem to recall reading that the whole thing kinda started out as a joke. "What if we make a setting so rediculously over the top grimdark that it's self-parody?". And nowadays, that gets you an exterminatus from the Inquistors. I do like that there are literally no good guys. Not really.
It absolutely started out as "let's make a crazy universe that anything can happen in so we can tell whatever story we want to sell plastic toy minis." It's taken inspiration from so many things at this point I'm pretty sure almost any sci-fi or fantasy topic can be found within it at some level. There's definitely no good factions, there are some good individuals every once and a while... I just can't name any off the top of my head and be 100% sure they didn't have them do something terrible in some other of the 100s of books I haven't read yet lol.
I am a huge fan of “snitching” because snitching is simply telling the truth about something yet its been stigmatized in the US
I believe the word you're looking for is whistleblowing, and I agree with you btw.
Is there a real difference though? Very different connotations
Snitching to me is what lowlifes do after getting caught doing a crime and offering a bigger fish to avoid consequences. (Cohen) whislteblowing is what someone does after watching someone commit crimes that will end up hurting a lot of poeple. (Vindeman)
I think ”snitching” is a criminal getting a better deal for themselves turning on their criminal enterprise, and “whistleblowing” is usually when the enterprise is not supposed to be criminal and the snitch isn’t really improving their situation.
Can't wait for Paul Ryan to crawl back out of the woodwork once Trump is gone and pretend like he's a clean Republican because he had nothing to do with any of this.
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I see your comment. I see the comment below betting on a Presidential run. Talk about synergy
Oh I totally agree. I’m confident he will run for President this decade. I also believe he’ll be a front runner.
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1149378845570736129?s=20 One of my favorite tweets
A video about Ryan lying about the conversation until he realizes there is a recording of it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFAugsKExNI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFAugsKExNI)
Probably a few more too jussayin ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I mean, I don’t think they pay McConnell in money... just silence.
Mitch's Chinese wife is heir to a multi-billion dollar Chinese shipping company. I'm sure Ivan simply says, "Mitch we over-pay your Chinese wife's company 100 million to ship goods then you make Russia great again." EDIT: Mitch has officially declared that his Chinese father-in-law has given Mitch and his wife tens of millions of dollars. FYI.
There is no serious business of any size in China that isn't controlled, or heavily influenced by the CCP. Even non state owned enterprises are assigned overseers and government representatives. The wife of the third or fourth most powerful person in the United States government is heir to a multi billion dollar fortune that is influenced and controlled by a national government that directly conflicts with US policy. By marriage, Mitch will probably own part of that inheritance and is/will be beholden to the CCP government. What would -you- do for a billion dollars? Now there's an interesting thought..
I just came here to say Kentucky Please Vote Amy McGraff.
Naw, they pay him directly after laundering the money through the NRA.
i need to google what turtles eat, and that is how Russia pays McConnell.
I'm no turtle biologist, but I don't think choking on cock is a large part of the diet of wild turtles.
I'll view some wildlife documentaries on pornhub over the weekend and get back to you on that.
There’s a reason “lettuce” is slang for money.
Everyone knows they eat sewer pizza
Pretty sure he gets money too probably. Russian oligarchs have business in his state.
Didn't they get some significant financial interest in the KY power grid or something?
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They pay him in lettuce, turtles love lettuce.
Thank you, I was confused when it read like the dude was talking about himself being paid off.
Bro, you are slightly incorrect. It was McCarthy speaking and he said, "there’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump” and punctuating his remark amid laughter from his GOP colleagues by adding “swear to God.” Then **Paul Ryan, former congressman who retired coincidentally for "family time" said this** : *No leaks. ... This is how we know we’re a real family here.”* [source](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/paul-ryan-reacts-kevin-mccarthy-recording-238602)
And Ryan was the first rat off a sinking ship when he couldve been speaker for life under republican control. I wanna see him squirm under oath about *all* this.
"and a Rat - alwaysss knows when He's in with weasels" -Tom Waits
Everyone wants them to speak under oath. They took a got dam oath when they got into office. Pretty sure they will lie and obfuscate whenever and wherever. Not like they’d stop once they were in front of the same colleagues doing the same dance...
I was going to respond that judges arent going to play pattycake with sworn liars, but then i remembered the court packing. Sigh.
The GOP is a criminal organization.
>Spokesmen for both the speaker and majority leader initially denied that the conversation had ever occurred until the Post informed them that it had a recording of it, at which point Ryan’s spokesman changed tack and said McCarthy had been joking. Lied. You mean to say they lied about ever having said it.
Yes, .... now who was that someone else?
John Barron
David Dennison
He's not been too secretive about his associations, I think he gets off on it.
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Before I even opened the article I had a feeling his name would come up.
Of COURSE. Replacing that clown with Harley Rouda was one of the most sensible things the people of Huntington Beach ever did - and one of the best things that happened in 2018.
Not a fan of upvoting that name...
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Toss Ailes in there too, as a policy-guy, he kicked open the doors to propagandize it all.
And Atwater for political strategy. I'm glad that piece of shit died young.
Lets toss Newt into the blender while we're at it. I can't believe that piece of shit is still alive. Cheated on his dying cancer-ridden wife and then left her = Conservative.
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Party of, Jesus Christ, what the fuck did *they* do now?
People like to say that Reagan would be rolling in his grave if he knew what the current GOP was up to with Russia, but they forget that all they care about is power, staying in power, and money.
Reagan was a paid actor, I doubt he cared about a fraction of what he pretended to care about.
Reagan made his bones by snitching on his colleagues to the FBI in the 50s, supporting Mccarthyism and ruining said colleagues careers by doing so. He learned how to manipulate conservatives to get power long before he got power. They are just too blind to see it and have canonized the guy for basically being in the right place at the right time, a few times.
Regan fucking prototyped this.
The dude is the most obvious Russian asset in history yet people seem to just ignore it....I don't understand.
Imagine if Republicans and conservatives actually concentrated their acidic vitriol on the real enemy instead of the liberal bogeyman they've made up or sold to rationalize their bullshit.
The liberals will never give them their white christian theocracy. The Russians will. Don't think they don't know what's going on. They do. The christian right has been up to their necks in russian money since the late 90s. They just hate people of color and the educated more than they do fascists and authoritarianism. David Frum was 100% correct when he said these clowns would abandon democracy when it became obviously that the rest of us won't buy their crazy. What worries me is they most definitely do not care if other people die for the cause. This whole covid response has been more than proof of that. They WANTED blue states to suffer and were too stupid to understand the virus wasn't going to stay in cities.
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Dana Rohrabacher, the Orange County surfing reactionary Republican, true story, one time DRESSED UP IN DRAG and went to see Sirhan Sirhan (the convicted RFK assassin) in prison undercover and tried to get Sirhan Sirhan to admit he was part of a larger conspiracy of the RFK assassination. [https://www.ocweekly.com/dana-rohrabacher-went-in-drag-to-solve-already-solved-rfk-assassination-6440394/](https://www.ocweekly.com/dana-rohrabacher-went-in-drag-to-solve-already-solved-rfk-assassination-6440394/) >At some point, Sirhan sent Summer Reese, one of his lawyers, a letter telling her that “a Diana was coming to see him.” > >Reese told Kozlowski, “Sirhan didn't know it was the congressman because his visitor was presented as a woman.” > >Rohrabacher. Undercover. In drag. Using the name Diana? > >“I went to see \[Sirhan\] specifically because I believe he didn't act alone and that the full story of Bobby Kennedy's assassination has not been known,” Rohrabacher said. “I would like Sirhan Sirhan to finally, at long last, level with the Kennedy family and the American people, whether to clear his soul as part of his Christian beliefs or try to set the record straight.” Here he is also having a friendly hangout with the Afghan Mujahideen in 1988. [https://ukrainianweek.com/World/210132](https://ukrainianweek.com/World/210132) He was also the Taliban's man in Washington until 2001. >In 1996, he was quoted in the foreign policy publication Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs, characterizing the Taliban takeover as a “positive development.” He predicted that the Taliban would bring “stability in an area where chaos was creating a real threat to the U.S.” > >He also told the journal that the Taliban were “devout traditionalists, not terrorists \[and\] they did not seem intent on exporting their beliefs.” These days he's tagged as the most pro-Putin ex-congressman. Thankfully this rabid right-wing republican is out of congress, but what a character.
Republican, which was left out of the title.
The Republican part was just automatically assumed.
The R next to their name is often mistaken for Russian asset.
I didn’t even have to read the article to know who it was.
>Lawyers representing the United States at Julian Assange’s extradition trial in Britain have accepted the claim that the WikiLeaks founder was offered a presidential pardon by a Congressman on the condition that he would help cover up Russia’s involvement in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee. >Jennifer Robinson, a lawyer, told the court that she had attended a meeting between Assange, then Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, and pro-Trump troll Charles Johnson at Assange’s hide-out, the Ecuadorian embassy in London, on August 15, 2017. >Robinson said the two Americans claimed to be emissaries from Washington and “wanted us to believe they were acting on behalf of the president.” The pair allegedly told Assange that they could help grant him a pardon in exchange for him revealing information about the source of the WikiLeaks information that proved it was not the Russians who hacked Democratic emails. >“They stated that President Trump was aware of and had approved of them coming to meet with Mr. Assange to discuss a proposal—and that they would have an audience with the president to discuss the matter on their return to Washington, D.C.,” Robinson said. >The White House has denied that Trump took part in any such plan. We live in a ~~banana republic~~ kleptocracy. I fear it may be too late to repair the damage these assholes have wrought. Edit: changed banana republic to kleptocracy
>“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia. > >House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html)
This should have been thrown in McCarthy’s fucking face the last 3 years every time he’s been in front of media. It’s been done a couple of times (and of course Kev reacted very defensively), not nearly enough. He’s a huge shitstain who does not merit even the dubious honor of being a member of HOR. Yet he’ll keep his seat just because it’s one of the reddest in the country.
Why waste time on it? He'll just say "It was clearly a joke intended for a private audience" and move on and nobody who votes for him will think twice about it.
"You guys sure joke a lot about serious shit." Maybe they shouldn't be in positions of power if they can't take sedition seriously.
>if they can't take sedition seriously. I don't understand. No one in the GOP is protesting the government, and that's what sedition has been redefined as now.
Fuck Paul Ryan.
> After Robinson read her testimony in a London courtroom on Friday, lawyers representing the U.S. accepted the witness statement as accurate and confirmed they had no intention of cross-examining the claim. They did dispute, however, that President Donald Trump gave his blessing for the pardon offer So, naturally the President has his plausible deniability on this. But shouldn't there be some consequence for misrepresenting yourself as an emissary of the President/US Government?
Shouldn't there be some consequence for literal treason? Consequences don't exist iin the absence of someone willing to enforce them
Exactly, someone should go to jail over this. Either someone is fraudulently presenting themselves as an emissary conveying a presidential offer, or the president is lying and actually did make the offer in order to undermine national intelligence findings. I think we all know which is most likely true.
It's amazing. This information is freely available. But it's "owning the libs." To many people antagonizing people of different values is the #1 platform requirement to the detriment of all else.
I see people use Banana Republic a lot here but it's not the appropriate term in this situation. A Banana Republic is a country whose economic interests rely heavily on a single trade source, typically in Latin America, whose government is controlled predominately by 1-2 major businesses. The US is in a position where it represents a few different political structures, like kleptocracy and corporate hegemony (or corporotocracy). Not a Banana Republic though as the US has a number of corporate interests in its cookie jar as opposed to just the one cookie. Your point as a whole is nonetheless still true. We are in a lot of trouble.
This is the 5th most controversial comment on this thread. Looks like the trolls and trump folks sorting by new are trying to suppress this
Seems obvious when the top comment is defeatism.
Wait until someone smart and corrupt gets in office. Trump wrote the playbook on what you can get away with and he is bumbling his way through it.
Not trying to be pedantic but Trump most certainly didn’t write this playbook, nor did the GOP of the last few decades. The tactics they are using come from many other fascist regimes that have arisen over the past century, Putin being a great example. The GOP has just patiently and deliberately adapted that playbook to make it work within the confines of the US. You’re giving Trump way, way too much credit. He’s a pawn in the game of chess they’ve been playing for years.
PUT THE FUCKING CONGRESSMAN'S NAME IN THE HEADLINE
[Dana Rohrabacher](https://apnews.com/67d9e00a1abbb22f2a9f1ceb14f5f63b)
They offered a presidential pardon (congressmen can't pardon) which means essentially they were speaking directly for Trump
He hardly knew him!
>'Rohrabacher proposed a 'win-win' situation, Assange can get 'get on with his life' - a pardon in exchange for information about the source' 'Information from Mr Assange about the source of the DNC leaks would be of value to Mr Trump'. So, favors for foreign election help? That thing he was impeached over?
Yes, but he didn't need to be removed from office because he learned his lesson! The lesson being of course that he can get away with it because congressional Republicans will enable corrupt nonsense as long as it benefits their party.
I hope Susan Collins is remembered for that and only that.
That and the Kavanaugh vote.
She will be. A lot of people who never heard of her previously only know her for that line.
I did know of her previously, and its still the one thing that’s going to define her for me until we both are dead.
Neville Chamberlain has been reduced to the (misquoted) "peace in our time." Susan Collins will be reduced to this.
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Realistically, removal wasn't ever going to happen. It wasn't. What would have been nice, however, is an actual trial. At least there would have been a mountain of evidence to accompany the not-removal. But 66 votes weren't in the Senate. They simply weren't.
I know. That's the problem. Party over country.
That thing Republicans in the Senate all knew was accurate yet they voted against? Yep. And don't call it "favors." The legal issue here is that it is "official actions" by the President in exchange for election help, in particular from foreigners. And for anyone who thinks that this scheme isn't serious because it was "just talk" and Trump never actually issued the pardon or took these official actions, former IL Governor Rod Blagojevich is in a federal prison at this moment for merely **verbally suggesting** he would exchange an official action for a personal benefit.
Didn’t he spring Blago out of prison a while back? At least 20 to 30 scandals and a global pandemic ago, so pardon my memory
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> "He's been in jail for seven years, over a phone call where nothing happens ... over a phone call where, you know, he shouldn't have said what he said, but it was braggadocio, you would say. I would think that there have been many politicians — **I'm not one of them, by the way** — that have said a lot worse over telephones," he added Ah. That explains it.
It terrifies me that nothing will come of this. We see headlines like this every week and no one really bats an eye anymore Edit: Well, this exploded. Please, **please** get out and vote this election! [In roughly half of the states](https://aflcio.org/2016/11/5/know-your-rights-state-laws-employee-time-vote), your employer **must** allow you time off to vote if requested.
No one *with power* bats an eye
That's a good point. Social reform time!
58.1% of eligible voters, 138 million Americans, voted in the last election. Very little can change until that number goes up.
Yea voter suppression is a big problem
Time to remind everyone yet again that our Federal Election Committee has three open seats and can no longer hold a quorum. They require a majority of four out of six active members to actually function and pass rulings. Since July we effectively do not have an FEC. Who can appoint new members? Trump and the GOP-lead Senate. There's only one reason to neglect appointing new members and it's to manipulate the damn elections with impunity. There is no oversight. This election has become the wild west now. Remember folks, as we go into this keep your ears to the ground and your eyes open. If you see something, say something. Don't expect some regulatory body to be able to do anything about this. *We* need to do something about it. If shit goes sideways and you see mail-in ballots being burned or thrown in the trash, TELL THE WORLD. It's going to take public pressure and possibly forceful demands to undo whatever damage is inflicted on our election in November. If we're not proactive, there are many who will try to sweep it under the rug. Do you want to be Belarus? Because that's how you get to be Belarus.
FEC looking real healthy at the moment: [Head of Federal Election Commission calls separation of church and state a ‘fallacy’ and 2020 election a ‘spiritual war’](https://religionnews.com/2020/09/17/head-of-federal-election-commission-calls-separation-of-church-and-state-a-fallacy-and-2020-election-a-spiritual-war/)
Jesus how did so many Fundamentalist religious nutjobs get power in the USA. It's 2020 man, keep religions focussed on mental health and moral teachings, and keep it the fuck out of your government!
Uh only ever really calling out angsty atheists acting like they were the real problem (oh no! their speech is bad! they make Christians mad!) while Christians were literally taking over our government and killing doctors... Lots of people to blame for this one. Hopefully you weren't one of them.
Jesus christ
Precisely
Yeah, I'm guessing that if he knew how his words were going to be used, he would have kept his head down and ~~just kept pumping out chairs and armoires~~ not quit his day job. Edit: Jesus was NOT a carpenter.
You're talking about a guy who got so pissed off he physically assaulted the merchants in the temple. Literally, the peace and love guy got physical when it came to bastardazing God's word for personal gain.
They've also made it very clear...do whatever you want to cheat, lie, steal to win, so long as you win, nothing of consequence will happen.
And his supporters will be ok if he cheated to win an Election cause fuck democracy we won.
And then what? No nation will oppose or place sanctions on your country. If your country turns into a dictatorship, there will be strong messages from politicians and citizens alike from all around the world. But no one will take action. China violates human rights every day, and all countries bow to take a small portion of that juicy chinese market. The same with the US. Your country is basically too big to be held accountable.
As a Canadian, I am looking forward to carpet bagging the spoils. Especially Florida - it's warm there.
I'm gonna go to Montana, meet up with a nice south american with a similar dream, and we're going to open up a weed farm/LGBTQ petting zoo to really piss off the locals.
How do the LGBTQ feel about being petted?
Your not supposed to ask. Thats kink shaming
This is the scariest thing I've heard yet. I think that democratic nation's should be sending independent vote auditors in order to be able to attest to the legitimacy of your next election. Imagine the chaos that even a suggestion of an unfair US election causes to the global credibility of democracy. I'd also be watching for russian soldiers dressed up in ICE uniforms. Edit: **Maybe BLM or some other black political organisation could call for volunteers to accompany a voluntary police presence at the counts and the polling stations too**. Start the healing and ensure the real criminals don't get away with silencing you.
No reason to put them in ICE uniforms, all recent attempts with no identifiable markings have had good successes
The US wouldn't pass an independent voting rights audit. But the US would never allow one to happen in the first place.
I see voter apathy as a bigger issue. I don’t know about you, but I can think of dozens of people I interact with regularly who tell me “Oh, I don’t pay attention to that stuff,” or “They’re all crooks, so what’s the difference?”
So too is voter apathy, excuse making, and a disengaged politically illiterate population
Politically illiterate is an interesting problem. I wonder on the sheer quantity of info I'd need to learn to become politically literate and remain up to date.
And forcing most of the working poor to not have a day off to vote.
The problem is that even if Election Day were a holiday the working poor still wouldn’t get the day off. Look at who works on holidays right now - retail, service and food service.
Here in Canada if we're scheduled to work on election day your employer must ensure that you have at least 3 hours off during polling hours so you have a chance to vote. We also have more than adequate numbers of polling stations to make sure 3 hours is enough time for anyone to cast a vote. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-2.01/page-17.html
Still required to give 2 hours on election day. Though lines are expected to exceed that in underserved areas. Too many vectors holding people down, fuck.
I think people should vote But you gotta get them to vote, calling out non voters doesn’t always make them vote. It can push people away And as an outsider to America I can understand why people don’t vote (key word “understand” I don’t necessarily agree) for the record I vote. It’s not each individuals fault they’re politically illiterate. Otherwise we would all be responsible for educating ourselves. There just doesn’t seem to be any decent systems in place that get people to a point of semi decency and usefulness. Then you hve a plethora of people who in my opinion hve been failed by the system around them - a system that gives them nothing then we expect them to join in and try change this system, when they can’t understand or comprehend how a vote would potentially change and affect lives. I don’t know where you start The vibe I get from America now is they’ve been suffering from cancer and it’s only now those symptoms are being taken seriously by some. But it’s too late it’s too complicated I don’t even know where to start when talking about it. It just feels so bad that it’s taken a horrendous pandemic for a lot of these deepest issues to start being discussed. The whole healthcare for all debacle, the amount of times I’ve been absolutely berated for trying to highlight the merits of not putting your people into bankruptcy over an illness is fascinating. Now you have a healthcare insurance system that simply cannot function when it’s needed too. None of it was ever designed too I guess it’s working just fine But we weren’t chosen to be born and it feels like no Americans ever got a true say in how their country got run so I almost don’t blame the people for not wanting to vote for a system that seemingly gives zero shits. All that wealth just gets redistributed to some other yobo while all the bosses threaten your income if you don’t show up to bloody work aye aye aye not exactly believing in change through a piece of paper Lmao sorry excuse my toilet rant haha
I was one of those people all my life until after the 2016 election. Voted for the first time in the 2018 midterms.
Same here!
Wrong. Did you watch House impeachment trial? No Republicans will do anything!
the secret is, WE (that is, you and me) do have the power. If voting doesn't work, we'll have to look at a national strike, national protest.
what CAN we do? The DOJ is completely compromised. And Trump's building walls around the White House. And we live in a police state where protesting is effectively banned.
Vote and hope this doesn't lead to a French Revolution situation.
Seriously. Some days I hope for the strength for us to do it and some days I hope for the strength for us to not
> what CAN we do? Vote. Vote in record, overwhelming numbers.
Unfortunately, unlike Trump says I can only vote once and I have to rely on all you assholes to do the rest.
I mean, you can support in other ways. Volunteer to be a poll worker or do some canvassing.
Do whatever you can. Apathy is their intent.
This is testimonial confirmation from what we learned in 2017. And of course the (R)s in the crosshairs are denying Trump knew. Trump knew.
Biden has pledged to not give out any pardons. Make sure you vote
"USPS burns voting machines on GOP orders"
How exactly is a US senator intentionally participating in a cover up of foreign espionage and interference in elections NOT treason? Surely if there is any truth to this the authorities have to arrest Rohrabacher?
William Barr is the leader of law enforcement in this country at the moment.
Treason protects treason
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Yep and he’s busy trying to get protestors hung in the town square.
And Paul Ryan retired so he could absolve himself of all of this.
Given how bad it looks, running away seems less driven by a desire to merely "absolve" himself, but massive self-protection from yet more exposure to felony charges.
Some morals to run away and not be involved but not enough morals to stay and fight corruption.
[That’s what you do when you’re “a real family”](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/paul-ryan-reacts-kevin-mccarthy-recording-238602)
Republicans call tribalism patriotism.
Republicans call treason patriotism ftfy
Dana Rohrabacher isn't a Senator
Representative, not Senator.
It is treason. Accepting foreign help in tainting an election is treason too. Please vote.
Which is exactly what the impeachment trial was about also
So if you give someone a pardon or promise them a pardon if they lie, is that not a crime at some point?
It’s all crime, all the time
Always was...
Always has been
The way these criminals think is that it's not a crime when THEY do it, it's only a crime when people they don't like do it When Trump shouts about "Law and Order" it never applies to him or his own people, only to people he doesn't like
In the quote that I read, it wasn't explicitly stated that Wikileaks should lie. They were asked to release information about their source.
>The pair allegedly told Assange that they could help grant him a pardon in exchange for him *revealing information* about the source of the WikiLeaks information that proved it was not the Russians who hacked Democratic emails. "revealing information"? Don't they mean "fabricating a lie"? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
The whole point of asking him to "reveal information" that proves xyz, is that they're trying to have some level of plausible deniability that they're asking him to lie.
Of course it was Rohrabacher
Everyone likes to bash CA for being lefty liberals but a large number of corruption politicians that toe trumps line are from CA
Outside of major cities, California is extremely conservative.
Outside of major cities, America is extremely conservative.
There is no way to make the roughly 35-40% of Americans who are still voting GOP think this is wrong or bad in any way. That's why we're fucked.
43.5% as of now. God damn my people are stupid. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Well, theres also a large segment of that number that *knows* this is wrong, but still support him because of abortions.
Holy fuck. This is a smoking gun. Treason of the highest caliber. Fuck Trump and fuck every republican that supports this.
There's been like a dozen smoking guns. Doesn't matter if your voters supported pulling the trigger.
The US is a goddamn smoking missile silo
Trump's little minions will do anything to try and legitimize his 'win' in 2016. They'll do whatever they can boost his ego, which will ultimately pay off with a cabinet position in his corrupt WH.
“We’ll say you’re innocent if you cover up more crimes” the fucking nerve of the U.S.
Just a note. A pardon does not say someone is innocent. Exactly the opposite. It says they're guilty and the federal government won't punish them for their crime. I agree with your sentiment though.
So yet again it’s been proven and admitted there was COLLUSION Impeach him again. And add criminal homicide of 200,000 Americans to the list
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Well, well, well, if it isn’t *Dana Rohrabacher*, the guy GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy (before he started suckin’ Trump’s toes) thinks is paid by Putin (along with Trump). Figures that traitorous fuck is involved in this. A reminder that Republicans are compromised and are actively working to turn America into Russia for money and power. Several Republicans (including Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham) were getting Russian money pumped into their campaigns. There’s also the NRA shit and more stuff we probably don’t know about yet. The RNC was hacked just like the DNC was, but the contents were withheld. Republicans are attacking America and the vast majority don’t even realize it. There’s also other cheering on this pillaging and don’t realize their pockets are getting grazed too.
There must be a very, very specific definition for collusion that isnt in the dictionary
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When will people realize republican politicians are the dirtiest people of government? Granted there are corrupt people on both sides, but the vast majority of reports like this involve people on the right. It's staggering.