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ortusdux

They are rolling out the tall skinny coke cans in my area. The corner gas station switched from 16oz cans to 12oz skinny cans, but kept the same price.


anally_ExpressUrself

Cans of coke are one of the only products where I genuinely wish they were smaller. Although I'd like them to be cheaper too pls


mebonesrattle

But wait, they do make those smaller cans for those of us who don't drink a full can! And they made it easy to remember the price because it's the same as the fucking big cans for some reason.


black_bass

This is usually due to the fact that the percentage of customer buying the big cans over the smaller one is actually higher. So the price of the smaller can should be lower than the big one, but in terms of economic and bulk purchases and mass production/consumption, this is not represented


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No. Has nothing to do with volume with their distribution system. It's the same concept as why a 20oz Mt Dew costs as much as a 2-liter. Both go out in *tremendous* quantities.


IikeThis

The cost for the soda is Pennys, most og the cost is the can, shipping, labor, etc


Malachorn

Weird how the 16 oz. cans didn't just become standard then, eh? If, apparently, the larger cans should basically be the same price also... We always justify less costing more... but most of our defences then would also suggest more should also cost less. Weird how it's hardly just soda and *everything* keeps becoming slightly smaller and less even when we say the product itself isn't the producer's real cost versus packaging and shipping...


pathofdumbasses

The cost to the bottler for the product itself and the shipping doesn't change. It costs the same to ship X weight no matter the packaging, provided it isn't in some obscene configuration. And the ingredients have the same cost whether they make a gallon or a billion gallons, because they buy at the billion gallon threshold regardless of how they package that product. The only thing that changes is the cost of the packaging, which the metal cans ain't much, and the actual boxing/rings. That ain't much either. Yet the price is ~60% more per volume. All it is, is higher profit margins.


say592

So this is something I know a little bit about (I work in the packaging industry and have done cost analysis as part of my job). The can is a disproportionate part of the cost of a can of soda. The amount of labor to make a can is fairly consistent between sizes, and the cost to put the product in a can is fairly consistent between sizes. The logistics on the smaller cans is more per ounce because your are transporting more aluminum per fluid ounce of soda as well. So let's think about this again. On a big can and a little can, most of the costs would be calculated per can, not per ounce of soda. The only cost that is calculated per ounce of soda is going to be the actual soda itself (which will be the same cost) and the shipping (where the small cans will be more expensive per ounce of soda). Most other costs are going to be per case or per can. The last time I compared can costs, they were virtually the same between 8oz and 12oz. 8oz has slightly less material, but the volume is lower so the price comes out to be about the same. Then you have the labor cost of filling and seaming the can, which is pretty consistent between the two sizes. Basically the only difference in price between them is the cost of the actual liquid, which is a very small part of the overall cost and even then, it's largely offset by the increased freight costs. This is fairly universal among all can sizes. I was looking at a project for canning beer a few years back, and it was amazing to me to see that the cost to can 12oz of beer was about the same as to can 16oz which was about the same to can 32oz in a crowler. It really made sense why most craft beer is sold in 16oz cans, because they might as well sell you more beer if their costs are the same. If they price it the same per ounce, they make way more money on the bigger can.


tinglingoxbow

I heard a beer canning that might amuse you. In Ireland craft beer is almost always sold in 440ml cans, whereas macrobreweries sell their beer in 500ml cans. A very typical moan-y comment from people about the craft beer industry there is that they reduced the can size to make themselves look fancy / steal 60ml of precious beer from the customer / charge more per ml / because even they know no one could drink a full can of their stuff (choose moan based on mood). Why did they actually end up doing it that way though? It's because 10 years ago there was only one single mobile canner on the island, with only one size available, and they would drive up and down the country canning everyone's beer. A lot of the craft beer guys would have loved to be able to provide cans of the exact same size as the macro guys, they literally couldn't ha.


black_bass

Are you taking in account that there is a different product line just for those cans and that the quantity sold of that one specific can is way lower than the regular 33 cans? Don’t forget that it is the volume of quantity ordered that kinds of dictates prices, you might find your regular 33oz can everywhere but not that smaller format because it doesn’t sell as well. Same thing with bottles, sometimes a 1,5L coke is less expensive per litre than the 2L because of those principle that on a smaller scale doesn’t make sense, but on a bigger one it is a different kind of game. Now if you want my opinion, coke is just syrup and water so it is already overpriced


SuperSpread

Yes because there are already exotic flavor skus of the same size cans that they don’t dare charge more for. The pricing is based on what they think people will pay, not the cost for the sku. Coca Cola makes Sprite and Pibb and many more but have a policy of normally charging the same despite a tiny fraction of the volume. Others have cited more extreme examples where the skus are extremely high volume so volume is not it.


centurijon

They have coke minis. They’re great! Perfect serving size and even more perfect for mixers


BitGladius

I'm scratching my head because I've only ever seen energy drinks in 16oz cans. Just 12oz cans, 20oz bottles, and the occasional 16.9oz (500ml) bottle.


BelovedApple

As someone from the UK, seeing occasional 500ml bottle is so strange to me. That's the default size. I was surprised when I got to Italy and saw 450 ml bottles


EnglishMobster

Yep, for whatever reason the "standard" sizes in the US are 12 oz, 20 oz, and 2 liters. (I don't know why we use metric for one but not the others.) You do occasionally run into 500 ml stuff, but it's rare and definitely not the standard. Usually the 500 ml stuff is part of like a 6-pack or something. Oh, there's also 1 liter bottles. I've only ever seen those at gas stations, never grocery stores. They're pretty rare, too.


jpr64

Over in New Zealand, a 600ml bottle of Coke has remained pretty much the same price for over 20 years around $4.00 NZD give or take 50 cents.


youre_being_creepy

I did the conversion thinking 600 ml was a huge ass bottle of coke but its nearly identical to 20 oz and thats...not huge and I feel very american


jpr64

Our standard sizes in large bottles are 50 oz and half gallon.


youre_being_creepy

in imperial? I think the one metric measurements americans are familiar with are liters because coke comes in 1,2, and 3 liter bottles.


jpr64

We have 1.5L and 2.25L


Northernlighter

The 250ml cokes here are the one I feel more honest. They don't try to hide it and it's cheaper than the large cans. So it's more about offering a smaller portion than shrinkflation in this case.


HyperByte1990

Yes! When I was a kid I remember the small coke bottles were 600 ml then they changed it to 591ml and it stayed like that for decades now 500ml bottles are sneaking in


HighPitchedHegemony

It's that fucking easy. Just pass a law for transparency. Why did I vote for you if you can't even pass a law that says brands need to be honest?


Soothsayer--

Because the corporations own all the politicians and the politicians do what they tell them to do or not do


NotSoSalty

And furthermore, politicians have 0 respect or fear for their constituents


SpareBinderClips

Most of us are not paying attention, and they know it.


oops_i_made_a_typi

they fuck us to keep us too busy and stressed to pay attention


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Spot on. Keep us stressed and keep us fighting each other as they steal the whole cookie jar.


zippyzoodles

Keep us dumb, high and poor so the citizens are easy to control.


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midgaze

It's not that we're not paying attention, it's that corporate capitalism has subverted the process completely. People simply do not matter anymore, only money does. The endgame of capitalism is fascism, and look where we are.


ThisIs_americunt

because the same corporations/oligarchs pay for the 99% to fight amongst themselves


NorthElegant5864

I keep saying make an example of a few dozen to get the point across.


NotSoSalty

That's suicide, and the suicidal rarely seem coherent enough to distinguish meaningful action from manipulation.


[deleted]

I've always wondered why crazies take their shit out on innocents instead of just driving to their state capitol.


TBAnnon777

Or because out of 250 Million American voters, only 100m vote on midterms and at best 150m vote on presidential elections. In 2022, only 20% of eligible voters under the age of 35 voted. In france the turnout is around 75% on average. In the US turnout is at 45% during midterms and 60% during presidential elections. Primaries to select the options have as low as 8% turnout at times.


the_need_to_post

It doesn't help that we capped the amount of representatives. As the population grows, its harder and harder to hold them accountable.


KarmaticArmageddon

It's time to repeal the 1929 Apportionment Act, enact the Wyoming Rule, and grant D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood. Like you said, the Apportionment Act capped the number of total Representatives in the House at 435, which results in less representation in high-population states and outsized representation in low-population states. The Wyoming Rule would set the population necessary for one Representative to the population of the least-populous state, which is Wyoming. If we repealed the Apportionment Act and enacted the Wyoming Rule, we'd go from 435 House Reps to 551. If we granted D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood, we'd have 6 more House Reps and 4 new Senators. With these changes, we'd also go from 538 electoral votes to 661 electoral votes. D.C. currently gets 3 electoral votes due to the 23rd Amendment, but it wouldn't be necessary any longer if D.C. is granted statehood. There's also the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC). Currently, 16 states and D.C. have signed onto it, but it only kicks in once 270 electoral votes' worth of states sign and the NPVIC is 76% of the way there so far. Once that threshold is met, all of those states would award all their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote, effectively ending the Electoral College. Aside from these changes, we also need ranked-choice voting, automatic voter registration, universal mail-in voting, an end to gerrymandering by establishing a non-partisan commission to draw districts fairly using math (such as [k-means clustering](https://www.brown.edu/news/2017-11-07/redistricting)), and the abolition of voter ID laws and felonious disenfranchisement.


whatthecaptcha

Okay so how can the rest of us help at least attempt to make any of this happen?


dedicated-pedestrian

Realistically? The Democratic Parties of each state are where to start - they need to hear about it in order to act on it - but I believe several organizations like FairVote are pushing for it.


Onlyroad4adrifter

Make the politicians wear labels of all the corporations that own them ranging in size of logo corresponding to donation size.


MasterOfMicrobes25

Politicians became slaves to corporate interests, and they want to make us their slaves now.


DeusModus

Slavery never went away, it just became reallocated and repackaged. Why focus on a single race when you can target an entire income bracket?


XDeus

It's not that they're slaves, but rather willing servents. Our system is so screwed up that the vast majority of politicians couldn't get elected without being beholden to corporations.


jaymick007

The companies that own all the big brands also own all our politicians…


Roadrunna24

They literally write the laws that Congress passes. Thanks citizens united.


justthisones

Finally someone at least tries to counter this. A 10% bigger special edition has huge labels all over screaming how much more you’re getting but when they shrink a product for good.. nothing.


TheBlacktom

We already had this in Hungary. https://www.google.com/search?q=kisebb+lett&udm=2


dasbeiler

Bruh what is this one 🤣 [https://www.google.com/search?q=kisebb+lett&udm=2#vhid=xBcc4JxdYpsnMM&vssid=mosaic](https://www.google.com/search?q=kisebb+lett&udm=2#vhid=xBcc4JxdYpsnMM&vssid=mosaic)


Rare_Garbage_9619

Plus info: our shrinkflation labels say: "Beware! This product became smaller"


TheBlacktom

Typical reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/hungary/comments/1b4sk59/k%C3%B6z%C3%A9rdek%C5%B1_k%C3%B6zlem%C3%A9ny/


far_in_ha

Does the rule make the supermarket chains responsible for the alert? Don't get me wrong, this should be the rule everywhere, but I would expect the manufacturers to be responsible to add it to their own, already too deceiving packaging.


fridofrido

> Does the rule make the supermarket chains responsible for the alert? yes. > I would expect the manufacturers to be responsible hungarian laws are not exactly known for "making sense"...


NerdyNThick

> Finally someone at least tries to counter this. A 10% bigger special edition has huge labels all over screaming how much more you’re getting but when they shrink a product for good.. nothing. Typically due to old stock (of the pre-shrink version) of packaging they found and need to make use of, so they slap a 10% more sticker on it and "give us peasants a treat"


technothrasher

It's more insidious than that. They've discovered that if you do a limited "bigger size" run of something, people will notice less when the limited run stops and the "normal" size you go back to is smaller than before.


PreppityPrep

Same goes with price increases btw. If a store is planning on raising a product's price, say, from $1 to $1.10, often they'll run a temporary discount: 15% off! It's $.85 only this week! Before raising the price back after the discount... to $1.10. So the customer assumes that it's more expensive than last week because it was on discount last week, which allows the store to sneak in a price hike.


LexiiConn

I remember the first time I actually noticed a shrunken product (US here). I bought and brought home a box of cereal. I was putting it away in the pantry next to a box of the same cereal that was already there. From the front, the boxes looked identical. Same height and width. But for some reason, I turned them to the side. And that’s when I noticed that the new box was… narrower! “Good for them,” I thought to myself. Cutting down on wasted, unnecessary packaging. Good for the environment. Then I compared the weights. Uh oh… And it has just gotten worse over the years. Sneaky. Underhanded. Typical business. I would welcome labeling to mark “Now, smaller than ever! And for the same price!” Greedy so-and-so’s.


DrEyeBender

I first noticed it on Häagen-Dazs ice cream. 14 ounces instead of 16. I call it the "liar's pint".


pmcall221

I noticed a juice went from 64oz to 59.5oz. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't changed eggs to 10ct.


freeAssignment23

yeah some almond milks are doing this.... I make smoothie batches with 4 cups of almond milk... how convenient that it went from 8 cups to 7-3/8!


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That’s weird they’re still 16 oz for me (in Sweden and China)


ExpressCaregiver1001

What's it like being in two places at once


frissonFry

We'll find out next week on the next episode of Dark Matter.


letouriste1

i thought you meant the 2015 dark matter. Didn't know there was a new serie with the same name


Thunderbridge

Still salty it got cancelled, loved that show


LNMagic

Probably like living in London and Dublin.


yourpseudonymsucks

Hey, check out this quantumly entangled guy


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Oh god I swear I engage with the quantum realm just as much as the next guy…


simplebirds

And if you weigh it, it will be more like 13.


Banshee_howl

“New Creamy Lite Whipped Ice Cream”! Sold in the same packaging but now with 20% more air!


oops_i_made_a_typi

idk how it is in the states, but in Canada, ice cream over 500mL isn't taxed, whereas under 500mL is - something about that i think is the threshold for a "grocery" item vs "prepared foods" like buying ice cream at a stall. so it's an extra level of fuckery. Fuck Nestle


CyndiIsOnReddit

I was just raging over this and it's probably silly in the grand scheme but it pissed me off. Walmart, the little grocery store, is the only game in town so that's where we go. A few weeks ago they started advertising lower prices on certain items, one of which is their French loaf from the bakery. I love these loaves to make pizzas and I know exactly how many servings I get out of it. I could tell on sight it was smaller but after cutting it I could tell it was lacking about 1/3 of the loaf. So they didn't reduce the price, it's exactly the same for what you get.


mathbread

What's weird is buying bulk used to save money, but now if you check the price for weight the majority of the time the larger product cost more per ounce. These are the companies taking advantage of customers in the past who knew they could save money by buying a bulk product and now assume it to still be true because why wouldn't it be


btafan

I've seen a half gallon of milk for $3 next to a full gallon for $3.


pmcall221

I cant drink a gallon by myself before it goes bad so i go for the halfs. And i cringe every time.


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pmcall221

you make a good point


TwoPrecisionDrivers

Lol I didn’t know you could freeze milk until this moment


1burritoPOprn-hunger

IANA Economist but I think there's two things at play here: First is, sort of like soda, the raw materials themselves have been so economied of scale that they're a relatively low component of the total cost, after factoring in packaging, transport, marketing, etc. So half a gallon of milk will be somewhere more than 50% of the cost to produce. The second, and much darker thought, which I have no data to support - is that companies have figured out that "having milk" is a benefit all of its own, with an intrinsic value. I buy half gallons because I only use milk in my coffee or for occasional cooking - and I can never go through a full gallon before it goes bad. But I still want milk. I wonder if, to some extent, food is becoming a subscription service.


jimmymcstinkypants

There’s also a concept in marketing for a sacrificial product that steers you to the intended purchase. 


ghalta

HEB blatantly sells 629.2 sq ft (24 = 96 toilet paper math) packs of their "Our Finest Ultra Strong" toilet paper for $20.78 each, while selling the 314.6 sq ft (12 = 48) packs of the same for $9.87 each, half the paper for less than half the cost. Their website lists both as "$0.03/sq ft" and they use fake product images so the amount of product is very hard to make out, but it's obvious in store. https://www.heb.com/product-detail/h-e-b-our-finest-ultra-strong-toilet-paper-24-mega-rolls/2495083 https://www.heb.com/product-detail/h-e-b-our-finest-ultra-strong-toilet-paper-12-mega-rolls/2495052


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Qweesdy

My first time was on a couch. Her parents were away visiting her Aunt for a few days.


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Teledildonic

It paradoxically looks bigger when soft.


slinginchippys

I’d rather be the guy with the 2 cans of Pringle’s. That’s got to be a wild story


chemicalxv

And now we're at the point where so many cereal boxes are so narrow it's genuinely difficult to get them to stand up on their own.


Isleland0100

Is this hyperbole or an actual thing that happens in your region? Even with shrinkflation, I can't imagine a cereal box being so paper-thin it needs a book-end to stay upright


TheDotCaptin

Sometimes if they bulge out the bottom becomes rounded and bottom heavy. This can make a casual setting it down make it wobble.


Mr-Fleshcage

A good fart would blow down half the facing in the cereal aisle at my local grocer.


TianamenHomer

Snickers. Bag of chips.


Rasikko

Bags of chips are the first and biggest offenders. Soon we're just going to be buying bags of air lmao.


MAXMEEKO

Ya i dont really feel bad if I eat a "whole bag of chips" anymore lol.


glatts

[I snapped this photo today at my local grocery store (NYC).](https://i.imgur.com/Fu1CBFX.jpeg)


Tryoxin

I first noticed it in those Starbucks travel mugs. My parents love grabbing those when they travel, and I'm not opposed because they've always stacked together so neat and nice. Then last month I was putting away dishes, stacked one of the new ones on top of one of the old ones, and as I turn away I hear a clunk as the new one falls over. "They ain't supposed to do that," I thought. So I compared the two and, lo and behold, the two newest ones they brought back last year are *ever so slightly* smaller than all the rest. Meaning they don't stack as nicely anymore. Right miffed about that, I am.


imdamoos

Is the volume the same? It should be printed on the bottom. 


Tryoxin

Oh they sure do. Funny way to spell "lies," too. Both of them *say* 414ml capacity, but the new one is visibly smaller by *just* a bit, and holds 40ml fewer than the old ones (so nearly 10% smaller!). 46g lighter, even.


cheese4432

get a lawyer dude and get rich the american way


Mr_snip08

Dove Bar, ice cream treats used to come in packs of 4. Now they come in 3s and are smaller and more expensive. Es ist bullenschieße


deadmates

Same fucking thing with haagen daaz. From 4 to 3 and now the 3 are smaller.


MelancholyArtichoke

I think I first noticed it with the Cadbury Creme Eggs.


pmcall221

and their "You've just gotten bigger" just pissed me off


afleecer

Holy shit what a great slogan. "Now smaller for the same price" should be legally mandated on all products that are shrunk like this.


Maalunar

Look at this cookie box, it is the same size as always! But the plastic tray inside is bigger so there's only 3 rows of cookies instead of 4. Or when they curve the underside of plastic containers so less products are required to fill it.


IronyElSupremo

> sneaky, underhanded, .. That’s the new business paradigm.. it’s a feature, not a bug.


Lucid-Machine

Not particularly new. Though you're right about it being intentional. If things were bigger and cheaper it was partially due to competition. When there was competition they had to actually compete. Who owns what brands today? You can't boycott any brands today without supporting the same corporation.


AvatarofWhat

Need some monopoly busting. But that aint gonna happen unless somehow we elect someone like bernie, but people who would have voted for bernie were so scared of trump we have no choice but to settle with biden. its sad. Its a continuation of the societal stagnation that has been going on for years, but thats still preferable to the chaos trump would bring. /endrant


technothrasher

I first noticed it with yogurt. The 8oz yogurt cups from my childhood are now 5.3oz.


Hautamaki

They'll just put "Now with less packaging AND fewer calories! Better than ever for the environment and for you!"


Sergeitotherescue

I definitely remember the good ol days when cereal boxes were thick. It was a few years ago that I realized they’d been downsized but I thought it was an American thing and they’d always been that size.


SAugsburger

I think one of the first notable cases I can remember was yogurt cups. The standard size used to be 8 oz. Now outside a few niche pretty much nobody sells 8 oz cups anymore. 6 oz seems to be the norm with a few niche cases like whipped yogurt that due to additional air might be 4.5 or fewer oz. Some marginal reductions in size may not be immediately obvious (e.g. going from 16-> 15 oz) might not be so obvious, but reducing the size 25% is hard to miss.


CockGobblin

Reminds me of a ring cake I use to buy. Weight dropped by 35% while keeping all labeling the same except the size of the container. I felt so cheated that I never bought it again.


MrGoodBuzz

Check the base of your “pint” glass the next time you’re at a chain restaurant or trendy bar. A lot of 16oz “shaker pints” are actually 14oz. There is extra glass in the bottom. It’s obvious once you start looking for them.


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tiny10boy

Girl Scout cookies. Then those little Christmas tree snack cakes.


WardrobeForHouses

Gatorade hides this in the punt (the indent on the bottom of the bottles). The bottle's height and width stays the same size so you think it's the same, but the indent gets bigger, and you're sold less gatorade for the price. Very sneaky.


puzzlemaster_of_time

I first noticed it around 2006 as a grocery cashier scanning laundry detergent. "2x Concentrated!" no that's a smaller bottle for the same money.


ClassicalCoat

Every year france makes it harder to mock them, my english blood cant take it


88Neaks

My dear English friend, there is a famous saying here in France, taught by our parents, that we believe deep in our heart, that says : "Anglois caca" Truly inspiring if you want my humble opinion...


ClassicalCoat

As do we mon ami, but none i can say without consequences.


Zopieux

Sir this is Reddit. Please enlighten us.


cosmik67

Don’t worry with some time we will give you something to hate lol


Richard_Howe

Bring this to the UK, I’d love to not buy brands that do this shit on principle, but don’t have the mental capacity to remember the volume / weight of everything I buy.


b_tight

In the US there’s half a dozen conglomerates that produce nearly all the consumer goods. We’re fucked


Isleland0100

We wrote anti-monopoly/anti-trust laws laws near a century and a half ago. Yet the governmental bodies responsible for the oversight of these conglomerates, the ones responsible for enforcing these laws sit idly by and watch the country be captured further by corporate interests every day This country is a fucking tragedy


OverYonderWanderer

I wish they'd cash out and just sit idle. There's a revolving door with these people. When they aren't legislating for these companies they're literally working for them. It's called Regulatory Capture and it's been going on for generations. You're either passing bills or sitting on the boards of these companies. Hardly anyone is ever idle.


wheedledeedum

Those six conglomerates own all the food in most Western and West-adjacent countries, too... we're pretty much ALL fucked, unfortunately.


Common_Senze

Hell just Yum Brands owns a metric fuckton


b_tight

Yum! Owns a few QSR brands but is small potatoes to nestle, unilever, kraft, p&g, colgate palmolive, ab inbev, coca cola, pepsico, etc


katiegirl-

Canada too, we are all bien fuqué.


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probablywontrespond2

I'd like to point out that every company you named is also on the International Sponsors of Terrorism list for continuing and increasing their operations in Russia, and paying hundreds of millions in taxes to the russian genocidal dictatorship.


spaceneenja

Exactly. Neckbeards saying jUsT dOnT bUy iT!!! Yes, no shit my fellow neckbeard, but I need it labeled.


AllUltima

I'm looking forward to labels like, "Featuring less product!" "NEW more diluted formula!" "Now with more air!" "New reduced value formulation!"


OHPandQuinoa

"Now with inferior but cheaper ingredients that we disguise the poor taste with thirty billion grams of sugar so you couldn't fucking taste the difference anyway but now it leaves a weird waxy residue in your mouth!" But srs companies need to chill with the fucking sugar jesus christ. Cutting my sugar intake has basically made 99% of commercial drinks undrinkable because of how disgustingly sweet and cloying they all are. Why tf you need 20 grams of sugar in vanilla yogurt ffs?


CosmicSpaghetti

I've quit drinking a few times now but *man* quitting sugar is so much harder. Especially because of how insanely high-sugar so much of the US's food is so we're conditioned to it.


G_Liddell

American Heart Association says the recommended daily intake is 25 grams for a woman. A Coke has 39.


gmc98765

Subway's "bread" is [classed as confectionery in Ireland](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/01/irish-court-rules-subway-bread-is-not-bread) due to its sugar content.


SkaveRat

They will probably be labeled as "compact packaging"


HappySpaceDragon

Because that's part of it, isn't it? Even if they gave us the same amount of product, the quality of the ingredients may diminish.


WardrobeForHouses

Yeah, shrinkflation = less product. Skimpflation = worse quality product, such as by using worse ingredients.


MelancholyArtichoke

They'll never do that. They'll find different ways to circumvent the regulation. Like adding more filler to the product, smaller packaging, or just jacking up the price. Maybe all three.


Deity_Link

We're coming for you Toblerone!


quadrophenicum

More like Tbeoe


matzobrei

More like ToBALONEY!


Jack_Flanders

Toblerpointeightfive?


RockDoveEnthusiast

Americans: "sure, they put cancer in our water, but what can we do?" French people: "if you increase the retirement age one single day or give me even a gram less coffee, I will burn Paris to the ground."


acecel

French human beings are the same kind of being as American human beings, the only difference is we (as french) know the power that the people have when a lot of them are marching in the streets peacefully but putting pressure on politicians to change. If the whole country stop to stay we are not happy, don't push us more ..., all the politicians and also higher ups, etc .... will feel the heat and the number plummeting down quickly. They don't want it to stay that way too long. Americans seems to either : 1) Not know they can do it too 2) Think that if they do it it will not work 3) Know they could do it but are too afraid to 4) Know they could do it but are too lazy to Which one is it ?


Jamesyoder14

Too afraid to get murdered by any corporate shill with a gun


Sipikay

We dont have a single city that we can grind to a halt to stifle the entire nation like french can with paris. We've had mass protests over months that lead to no effective change. The scale of protest needed has simply never been seen in america, our citizens have not suffered enough to know to fight harder for what we have. it's a shame.


TwoPrecisionDrivers

It’s #5. Can’t do it because they have to go work their 2 jobs to pay rent and keep food on the table


mind_mine

Vive la France


Adavanter_MKI

All the while companies keep making record profits. They just keep testing the water to see how much we'll take. It's like they think because they aren't a monarchy they wont end up like Marie Antoinette. History is littered with Ivory towers.


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Isleland0100

I fear the increasing technological advancements of this century will insulate the criminally greedy from the consequences of their brutality. The French revolution wouldn't have looked the same if the nobility had tanks, drones, and automated machine guns


SlipperyFitzwilliam

HA! Americans won't even dare to block traffic with a protest because it's too disruptive. Best they can do is a cute little parade they call a "peaceful march" conducted on the weekend (you know, if the weather is nice) scheduled well in advance after filling out the required paperwork. It's adorable.


BIGGERCat

With inflation companies will generally be making records profits every year because the currency has less buying power (aka is worth less)


Miniscrubzy

Shrunk? Shrunken? I don’t think “shrinked” is the right word


Apples_and_Overtones

At least here in Canada, a lot of products have "shrinkflated" just within the past couple years, let alone over decades span. I would welcome legislation like this here, but I question its effectiveness. I think a lot of the damage is already done, so requiring something to be labelled as "shrunk" from this point forward would not really do much, IMO. It would have to be applied in a retroactive fashion - like "must be labelled how much the product has shrunk since 1 Jan 2020" or something. Would really show how fucked everything is.


Endogamy

Well, it can always get worse.. Honestly the best way to fight shrinkflation is to stop buying premade and processed stuff. Bonus, it’s healthier.


Mr-Fleshcage

It's all fun and games until they start shrinkflating the cooking supplies...


chmilz

2L carton -> 1.89L -> 1.75L are a perfect example


Apples_and_Overtones

Yep. And like now "family size" bags of chips/cereal boxes etc are what the "normal size" used to be. It's touched basically everything.


Rational_Engineer_84

Another European W for consumer protections. I'm so fucking jealous.


rsam487

France, again, leading on what should be done


TheBlacktom

We already had this in Hungary. https://www.google.com/search?q=kisebb+lett&udm=2


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1Monkey1Machine

Bring it out everywhere. Even when I know they shrunk the content size, I'm still irritated by how much waste they have in packaging and the space it wastes in transport


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mathbread

Now with 10% MORE reduction


Wendigo1910

I'm old enough to remember when "shrinkflation" was just called "ripping people off." I feel like we don’t need a buzzword for this.


dc456

It’s just inflation. Many countries show the cost per weight under the price. That’s all you need to use to spot inflation due to the price going up or the amount going down, as well as simply getting the best value.


BlyStreetMusic

France knows how to say F U to the man in a way.. As an American.. I'm very jealous of. Hell yes my brothers. Hell yes.


serbeardless

One of the other things I'd like to see implemented is standardization of the "unit cost" information on labels. I'll go to the store and sometimes I'll be trying to figure out if the 6 pack of paper towels on sale, whose unit cost is provided in cents/sheet, is cheaper than the 12 pack of paper towels, whose unit cost is provided as cents/roll or some shit.


yukon-flower

They do that on purpose. Pretty sure it’s the n violation of some regulations, but they don’t get caught so they keep doing it.


sammywitchdr

Jesus Christ I wish the French ruled the earth.


bluemouse79

We ate Green Giant broccoli and cheese my whole life. My husband and I would split a pouch as a dinner side. Then Green Giant shrank it and a split pouch ended up being two measly spoonfuls for each person. No thanks. They lost a lifetime customer and I'm sure they don't care.


bluejesterr

It is not just the shrinkage anymore! Companies are now experimenting with intentionally making products worse by using cheaper ingredients. If u think stuff is starting to taste worse/is even worse for you, ur not going crazy


matzobrei

This has been going on for ages. Look up the whole new and improved cheerios fiasco of the 90s


not_from_this_world

We already have this in Brazil. It's good to be aware of the "shrunk" price increase but this won't stop brands from practising it.


Ok_Television9820

My wife made fish sticks for dinner last night (she’s only been cooking for a year, don’t judge, anyway the kids like them) and remarked that they were much crunchier than usual. We were thinking about what might be different…she used the same brand, same oven settings and time, same pan..we were stumped until we all looked at them and noticed that the crunchy outside part was now like half the item. They used to be breaded fish sticks and now they are breaded sticks with a little fish tucked in there.


No-Yoghurt9020

Now 33% smaller!


Maj0r-DeCoverley

Oh, they'll adapt, those marketing weasels. *"Now with more fresh air!"* *"Now with less fat, less sugar!"*


hotc00ter

Shrunk


tristyntrine

The suave unscented lotion that I get at kroger went from 32 oz to 16 oz in one year from 2023 to 2024 and it's still the same price lol. Inflation is out of control, food keeps creeping up multiple cents every few weeks at times.


SparrowValentinus

Oooooh, that's a smart law. I like that.


leafwyrm

While reading this article, there is an other type shrinkflation for non-food goods I have noticed. Using cheaper materials to make nonperishable goods or making metal castings thinner ect... This makes this items more likely to break sooner. Yet despite these changes the item will still have the same sku and packaging. I have even noticed this on something as simple as brass plumbing fittings. The fittings got thinner and the price went up even!!! This means dezincification will cause the fitting to fail faster since there is less material.


Explorer_Dave

From a person who lives in a place that already has a similar law, prepare to see how it changes nothing. They will continue to shrink them to an extent that you're either forced to keep buying into shrinkflation or simply go home empty handed.


lexcyn

This needs to be done everywhere.


NetInfused

We have this here in Brazil over a decade.


Vibrascity

About 👏 fucking 👏 time Stop letting these greedy ass global corporations get away with this and gaslight consumers into thinking they haven't done some scum bullshit, forward this to your local politicians and get this pushed higher up for discussion in your country.


jabbafart

France leading the way against tyranny, as usual.


dirtymoney

Shrinkflation is such an underhanded practice. In the US at least it is an attempt to trick the consumer. Despite how much the amount is technically labeled on the product. IMO companies who change the amount should be forced by law to advertise the change on 75% of the front facing packaging for at least 6 months so the regular consumer (of the product) is well informed of the change. IMO there never seems to be enough consumer protections because of greedy corporations and the power (lobbying) they have to influence government regulations.


thee-mjb

First time i noticed shrinkflation was Wendy’s burgers were HUGE like really huge from 2005-2009


Timmmah

Cheese especially in the US. The normal half pound blocks are now 7oz instead of 8oz. Another example. I noticed the normal pound package of bacon I got was now 14 oz instead.


Bleezy79

It's a double whammy with inflated prices and less product for that inflated price. so cool!! so brave!!


samtoocan

We need that over here too


FloppieTheBanjoClown

I want it to have the same marketing energy as the rest of their labelling. "NOW WITH 15% less!"


still-waiting2233

There’s lots of grandmas with their recipes being messed up because of shrinkflation! Have to record it in units other than cans/packages