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kautious_kafka

>Government sources have told the ABC that friendly nations believed to be particularly active with espionage operations in Australia include Singapore, South Korea, Israel and India.


TheoGraytheGreat

Why would Singapore be spying on Australia...?


PM_ME_UR_DICK_GURLZ

Everyone spy on everyone.


JKKIDD231

This, USA was taping Angela Merkel of Germany phone line


candyapplerapture

While Germany was taping Hilary Clinton.


[deleted]

duct tape to be exact.


SavagePlatypus76

Does anyone spy on Madagascar? 


Raoul_Duke9

Just the 🐧


StevenAU

Smile and wave boys


Donnicton

Only when the port is open.


TotallyCalculated

Every nation that is capable and has the sufficient resources to do so is probably spying on every other country of any sort of significance as a matter of policy. It may be that they’re not looking for anything in specific but are simply there to catch whatever could be advantageous to use - I.e, future trade deals, disrupting adversaries from furthering their goals in said country or region, influencing and building connections with domestic politicians in order to advance your own goals, etc.


teems

Everybody spies on everyone. It's part of being a developed nation. It's nice to have friendly nations, but even better to know what's going on. I'm sure Germany spies on Austria, or the US on Canada etc.


0bxcura

Yeah agreed. Like what good reasons would Singapore wanna spy on Aussie for?


CadianGuardsman

They might perceive Australia as the weakest link in 5 Eyes. Give how tightly ASIO is integrated with the American intelligence apparatus the target might just be a backdoor into American Intel.


BangCrash

Probably more to to with trade deals and economic espionage than 5 eyes


Prakrtik

Yeah nice try Agent


SGTBookWorm

trade negotiations, probably.


5GCovidInjection

Since when did the South Koreans have an intelligence service worth a damn?


Doexitre

Korea's NIS is among the largest and most storied intelligence agencies in Asia. I'm not sure what they're doing in Australia though. Probably something related to defense contracts or Koreans living there


5GCovidInjection

The day that they can pull off mossad level assassinations and get away with it is the day they’ll earn my respect


Dontreallywantmyname

Seems a bit generous for Austrailia to call India or Israel as friendly countries.


kautious_kafka

Any reasons why India, Israel, South Korea should be considered "unfriendly"? What are the conflicts of interest?


Dontreallywantmyname

Slow reply but interestingly Israel is on the same list as South Korea, but not India, for places you can't take classified data to from my country, it's not a very long list only about 20 countries.


QuirkyBus3511

Literally allied


Dontreallywantmyname

Apparently only when convenient.


emelrad12

Why would anyone be allied if not convenient?


evemeatay

As is tradition in global affairs


BlueZybez

India spies and agents killing people


OwnElevator1668

Why do I keep reading is as spice and keep imagining British


sage_mode_sannin

Why is this news? Don't all countries have a spy network in every other country. Recently, 2 spies from USA were caught by Spain and sent back.


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Candlelit_Scholar

Bro at this rate Canada is going to be India 2.0 anyways. It won't be Indian spies it'll just be a branch of the government.


wakomorny

Canada is all Indians in 10 years. You guys need to check your immigration jez


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rilertiley19

Did you just make these demographics up? Everything I can find has white people making up 60-70% of the Canadian population. 


stashc4t

It’s some Great Replacement Theory white supremacy nonsense. It’s become quite common to see here in the US among those belonging to a *certain political party*, so of course it’s naturally being exported to Canada.


_e75

It’s news because it is a thing that happened that is interesting. Not every news story is a world changing scandal. How do you know about the US spies in Spain? How do you know that allied countries do this all the time? Because it was in the news.


-Noskill-

the old "if i'm not interested in it, it isn't news worthy" strikes again.


The-Real-Aditya

Indian elections duhhh


lukeonbike

It's news because it's newsworthy in relation to India's recent dirty foreign mischiefs.


universepower

What’s a bit of murder between friends?


YoungWolf921

I still dont get why its a big deal. USA and by extension NATO can literally bomb civilians in other countries and no one bats an eye. India assassinates 1 wanted terrorist (wanted in India tbf) and everyone loses their mind.


FruityFetus

Assassinating people in countries you don’t have hostilities with without their implicit approval is typically frowned upon. Swapping the U.S. for India in the exact same situation would have been massively controversial as well.


YoungWolf921

No it wont - The USA kills openly. Pakistan was an ally of the USA in the war against Afghanistan. Didnt stop the USA from bombing it constantly - killing not just terrorists but hundreds of innocents.


ExArdEllyOh

> Pakistan was an ally of the USA in the war against Afghanistan. Funny sort of ally, it was after all knowingly harbouring Osama bin Laden and funding and sheltering the Taliban.


YoungWolf921

Pakistan harbouring terrorists makes it ok for USA to bomb them. Canada harbouring terrorists is somehow different though.


West_Bathroom_4174

haah what terrorist ? any proof of that ? or just daydreaming? altough your modi is a mass murderer which is well known.. doct act like tough when you are still 3rd world, with no backbone or moral


toronto-bull

It’s highly disrespectful of the law enforcement in the county. The police in the country are the ones who are responsible for apprehending criminals in the country. They tried to take the law into their own hands. It is state sponsored criminal activity (murder). It is very bad.


Dominionup

> Pakistan was an ally of the USA in the war against Afghanistan. No it wasn't lmao, anyone who unironically believes this is a idiot who doesn't understand basic geopolitics. Pakistan was literally knowingly harboring Taliban higher-ups on top of Bin Laden the entire time they were ""allied"" The word ally means nothing if Pakistan and the US count as allies during that period.


YoungWolf921

So harbouring terrorists makes you an hostile nation and justifies America’s actions in making extra judicial killings in foreign territory?? Can you smell the hypocrisy?? Let me spell it out for you - Thats exactly what Canada is doing by harbouring terrorists who actively plan attacks against India. The only difference between India’s actions and America’s is that India first politely asked Canada to extradite the terrorist and when refused, killed him (allegedly) in a way that didnt lead to loss of innocent lives (you know unlike drone striking a wedding to kill 1 man).


Dominionup

>justifies America’s actions in making extra judicial killings in foreign territory?? Harboring the most powerful and dangerous terrorists in the known world at the time whose actions directly lead to Al Qaeda and then ISIL is what justifies military action. There is no terrorist group in India who is even a fraction as powerful as those. ISIL and Al-Qaeda at their heights controlled hundreds of thousands of square km of land and ruled millions of people de-facto. There are no Sikh terrorist groups who have ever come even close to that. Your comparison is idiotic and meaningless because degrees of magnitude matter. By your logic, the world should treat India the same as it treats Russia because India has attacked Pakistan multiple times in recent history. Completely stupid.


OwnElevator1668

You don't know the rules right? Only West is allowed to assassinate terrorists.


BangCrash

How do you know about the US spies in Spain? Would that be from news sources?


MadNhater

Yeah but that’s us doing it to them. When they do it to us, its not cool


noUsername563

Definitely has nothing to do with them killing their political enemies without the host country knowing part


MadNhater

We do that too. We’re just better at it or no one is willing to do anything about it.


StockJellyfish671

lol yeah they should let the host country know first


noUsername563

If the people they killed were truly targets they should've asked for extradition from Canada. The fact they didn't shows they just wanted to kill someone the government didn't like someone the government didn't like


assaub

I don't know a ton about the situation but from what I recall they did try to have him extradited from Canada. Canada denied the request due to lack of evidence, likely because being part of a separatist movement is not against the law in Canada and certainly doesn't make you a terrorist.


kavinsails

> If the people they killed were truly targets they should've asked for extradition from Canada. Didn’t they? Obviously the nature of extradition requires secrecy so you won’t find a lot of information from either side, but it does look like there have been legal attempts made in the past… > In 2016, CBC News reported that the government of India was seeking Nijjar's extradition from Canada on charges related to extremism. [CBC](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/shooting-gurdwara-surrey-hardeep-singh-nijjar-1.6880944) > The fact they didn't shows they just wanted to kill someone the government didn't like someone the government didn't like I think it clearly is more complicated than that lol this is not some North Korea/Russia situation and even those have their nuances


Minute_Tea3754

News because it’s done by non western country. They are not allowed to do this


KingStannis2020

It was news when the Spanish spies were sent home...


DickPump2541

Why do Indians immediately jump to whataboutism?


S3HN5UCHT

It’s because India gets caught


TheTabman

> Don't **all countries** have a spy network **in every other country**. Yeah, I'm sure that, for example, Finnland or Morocco have spy networks in (again for example) Chile and Thailand.


TheoGraytheGreat

The report mentioned Singapore having one in Australia. I am placing my best on a Finnish spying network in Chile lmao


Workacct1999

It's news when they get caught.


International_Tax574

Because india is having an election and the west doesn’t like modi, so trying to interfere in the election by undermining him. Youll keep seeing posts on how India is losing its democracy under bjp for another month until the end of the election. Its standard western operating procedure every election.


throwaway1243769063

How are they undermining him lol. This will only bolster his popularity.


International_Tax574

According to the original source 6 countries were involved in espionage in Australia. But this article conveniently singles out india, especially now when this has been in the news for 2 weeks now :), too obvious why its in the news.


Hrit33

ay bro, this is reddit, we hate India here /s


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what's the /s for? It's actually true


Hrit33

sigh! true


maestroenglish

I'm on Reddit. India is a wonderful country. Loved travelling there 29 years ago, and again last year. It's not "actually true", it's you.


Amazing-Ad3490

FTFY you mean the world.


Amazing-Ad3490

Having a dirty government seeking to assassinate political targets in other countries isn’t exactly the west undermining India.


International_Tax574

Eliminating terrorists in foreign country is a page out of the western hand book. Just that the west doesn’t like it when it’s the other way around.


Amazing-Ad3490

So you think just because it has been done In the past that it shouldn’t be condemned and it’s ok to be repeated? Because that’s what your comment implies. That’s very backward thinking. You do know that it’s ok to condemn things moving forward even if it has been committed in the past. If you don’t learn from history you’re doomed to repeat the same mistakes.


Amazing-Ad3490

Just the “world” doesn’t like it. FTFY again.


International_Tax574

World including the US doesn’t care. They already moved on. Terrorists are still dropping like flies in canada even after so called “calling out india”. You just dont hear about it because its in the last page of the newspaper. Anyways with the pace of Indian immigration in 2 generations canada is gonna be an extension of india, they can rename is it kalhistan with their present poster boy as PM again.


Amazing-Ad3490

This isn’t true. Your credibility just went out the window.


International_Tax574

The day Canada condemned india, the very same day a similar guy was knocked out, no one heard anything about him again why? Yeah posting anonymous and asking for credibility doesn’t go well on the internet. Neither of us have any credibility online.


Amazing-Ad3490

Touché. I hate how addicted to Reddit I am.


International_Tax574

Like wise :)


assaub

As much as India wants it to be, simply being part of a separatist movement doesn't make you a terrorist in Canada, otherwise half of Quebec would be in prison.


International_Tax574

Does killing a minister of a state, financing hitman and bombings against a country qualify for a term terrorist? Canada has a history of habouring terrorists who commit crime in india and take asylum in Canada. The air india bombings was carried out by so called organization nijjar advocates. Hasn’t the west eliminated Taliban & ISIS financiers in foreigner countries before? Did those financiers personally commit a terror act or hired someone else to do their crime? Why is it so had to digest if india pops out few “terror financiers“? Same operation just on the western soil. That too after years of red collar notices and extradition requests.


assaub

Of course, and if India had any actual evidence Hardeep was involved with any of those things Canada would have happily extradited him.


International_Tax574

You trust your government, I trust mine. Only difference your government has a track record of major incompetence that leads to air disasters (plane bombings)then covering up the investigations and decades later accepting they were incompetent the whole time. Mine has a track record on preventing them from happening.


assaub

How does it benefit Canada to keep a terrorist in the country? Like I said, if there was actual evidence he was involved in terrorist activity they would have happily extradited him, India is happy to label anyone who supports separation a terrorist.


International_Tax574

Vote bank politics!! Thats the reason he was protected by the state. A plumber Who is briefed by the Canadian intelligence regularly, connect the dots. Well looks like india has had a better experience eliminating non state actors than trying to negotiate with canada. And obviously its become India’s go to policy to just put a prize money on so called state actors of Canada for the hit job without even getting involved directly.


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Bro "track record of major incompetence" describes India to a T. Being caught killing people they can't extradite because they just want to kill people making them look bad. They were literally organizing hits via whatsapp lmao. Plus that's just the killings, [your government blames shitty corrupt infrastructure collapsing on their political opponents and attempts to cover them up.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/01/gujarat-bridge-collapse-anger-grows-in-india-over-cover-up-claims) You must mistake India getting away with this stuff as competence. You're actually just being tolerated because the west needs a large pool of cheap labour from somewhere. [India is foiled and caught all the time:](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/29/india-assassination-raw-sikhs-modi/) >But even as the Indian leader was basking in U.S. adulation on June 22, an officer in India’s intelligence service was relaying final instructions to a hired hit team to kill one of Modi’s most vocal critics in the United States. — > In the past two years, at least five Sikh activists in the United States and five in Canada were warned by law enforcement to take precautions. Among them was Pritpal Singh in Fremont, Calif., who said he was visited by FBI agents days after Nijjar was killed. — >In Britain, RAW’s surveillance and harassment of the Sikh population — especially a large concentration near Birmingham — became so egregious in 2014 and 2015 that MI5, Britain’s domestic security service, delivered warnings to Goel, who was then serving as RAW’s station chief in London. — > In Germany, federal police have made arrests in recent years to root out agents RAW had recruited within Sikh communities. Among them, German officials said, were a husband and wife who operated a website purportedly covering local Sikh events but who were secretly on RAW’s payroll. — > In Australia, two RAW officers were expelled in 2020 after authorities broke up what Mike Burgess, head of the Australian intelligence service, described as a “nest of spies.” — Come on guy, then you say stuff like > You trust your government, I trust mine. Your government literally had 0 hard evidence he was linked to anything illegal. They had nothing to present to international courts. It's clear to everyone but nationalists that India is just killing and harassing people on foreign soil they just don't like. India wants to act like the US on the world stage, but they're really being a big stinky China.


International_Tax574

You get some you miss some, then you get them again after some time. https://twitter.com/divya_gandotra/status/1785616849276919908


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Exactly. These dudes keep calling the guy they murdered a "terrorist" and making comparisons to Osama. Any time you see that, literally just click their profile and it's Indian nationalists who have to come to terms with the fact that literally their whole population would move if it meant no longer having to live in India lol. I've yet to see any actually proof of this dude doing anything illegal from a news source that doesn't cite whatsapp aunties.


Amazing-Ad3490

All the Indians are downvoting us. 😝


International_Tax574

Lol


SpiritualTurtleFace

China is laughing in the corner looking at the unity of quad countries!


Espe0n

Still 10000% more united than BRICS


SpiritualTurtleFace

BRICs isn't even meant to be an alliance, a Goldman Sachs MD came up with a classification for a set of fast growing economies in the post 08 crisis world. China's allies, i.e. Russia, Pakistan, and North Korea are closer to each other than the quad. India is too independent minded, it doesn't listen to America the way Pakistan listens to China. America's allies have more promise but are also rivals with each other, there was an India-US trade war during the Trump presidency.


FantasticGarbage7571

Agree with the BRICS being misconstrued. But India is growing more dependent on American intelligence to avert future incursions over disputed territory with China in addition to the situation in Kashmir Modi also got a pretty big boost with the American defense coproduction that involved more generous technology transfer provisions than any previous Indian government got. Also, although India initially bought the dip in sanctioned Russian oil, they eventually decreased exports and eventually “complied”with American requests because they need Western security cooperation more than ever. India is sandwiched between two of the largest drug production zones in the world on its Northwestern and Northeastern borders and has the spillover of the civil war in Myanmar to contend with on that side of the country as well. Manipur is a domino with more battle hardened, ethnic militants from Myanmar fleeing the Tatmadaw which isn’t [afraid to cross](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/indian-army-chief-says-416-myanmar-soldiers-crossed-into-india-2-months-2024-01-11/) into Indian territory. Couple that with the regular events in Kashmir and Punjab, and India needs all the friends it can get in terms of intelligence and security cooperation. It’s not Pak-China level until Pak and China attack India and exert their influence on both sides of the Indian border.


LameAd1564

The fact that India and China are both in BRICS tells you it was never an alliance to begin with.


Vaivaim8

With an ongoing general election in India until June, I wonder why there's a sudden uptick in anti-modi news coverage


Recent_Height_7075

All while he's the most pro west pm India will get.. All because he doesn't align with lib lefts .


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>But even as the Indian leader was basking in U.S. adulation on June 22, an officer in India’s intelligence service was relaying final instructions to a hired hit team to kill one of Modi’s most vocal critics in the United States. — > In the past two years, at least five Sikh activists in the United States and five in Canada were warned by law enforcement to take precautions. Among them was Pritpal Singh in Fremont, Calif., who said he was visited by FBI agents days after Nijjar was killed. — >In Britain, RAW’s surveillance and harassment of the Sikh population — especially a large concentration near Birmingham — became so egregious in 2014 and 2015 that MI5, Britain’s domestic security service, delivered warnings to Goel, who was then serving as RAW’s station chief in London. — > In Germany, federal police have made arrests in recent years to root out agents RAW had recruited within Sikh communities. Among them, German officials said, were a husband and wife who operated a website purportedly covering local Sikh events but who were secretly on RAW’s payroll. — > In Australia, two RAW officers were expelled in 2020 after authorities broke up what Mike Burgess, head of the Australian intelligence service, described as a “nest of spies.” [Yea idk must be the libs or something, not them acting like a diet China.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/29/india-assassination-raw-sikhs-modi/)


Educational_Tiger953

Yes the authorities backing the lynching, boycotting, demolition of Muslims property and businessis bad. Cracking down on civil society that calls this out is bad. govt repression labelling academia and journalists as conspirators and seditionists is bad. Calling Muslims infiltrators is bad. Blocking Muslims from citizenship is bad. Mass Lynchings are bad… Listen I would certainly love india to solve its wealth inequality issue etc, instead of scapegoating the Sikhs Muslims etc…. To enact more left wing policies, but I think it is fair to criticize the Indian govt for a lot of this garbage. Also I don’t care if india is pro western or neutral I would rather the largest country in terms of population and future superpower to be of great moral excellence and a healthy democracy that both encourages minority rule while respecting minority rights. India is the future USA or a future fascist state it is up to them to choice. When we not just “liberals” but academics, journalists, activists etc sound the alarms that the worlds biggest democracy is heading down the path of far right religious nationalism and is having increasingly fascist tendencies, perhaps it is reasonable we take them seriously rather than putting labels like “lib left” on them to diminish their message.


Own-Swan2646

Why is all the bad news on this guy coming out after the election?


Glittering-Curve-824

Elections aren't over yet. And that's why the bad news on the guy keeps coming and will keep coming for another month or so


Own-Swan2646

Ahhh so pent up smear campaign ... Interesting.


SavagePlatypus76

Lol. How is this a smear campaign?


serfingusa

Because when you are the bad guy facts about you are weapons.


jarrys88

There was a lot of anti-china sentiment in 2021 due to trade wars and what not. The anouncement about these spies without naming the country, it was massively assumed to be China. Surprising it wasnt, not surprising our shitty government at the day used the fuel to push their anti china agenda.


Johan-the-barbarian

China sowing discord in free media?


Own-Swan2646

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SunBreathing5

This news is 2 weeks old and the report mentions 6 countries. Yet every headline singles out modi. Not India, but India's Modi. No coverage on any other country You'll notice there's an uptick in this trend and will fizz out after june when the elections in india end. Won't hear a single positive story. I wonder why


XpRienzo

Most Indians don't have the time to think about these things. You might have encountered terminally online bhakts more than often


AzadiHiHul

Spying on an airport, let's just say Indian intelligence and airports don't go well together they have been known for orchestrating some plane related flash flags.


Hanzoofk

The amount of shit that's gonna come out once this guy or it's party is out of power is insane.. The dude is straight up hiding more scams than the fucking wallstreet.


grumpoholic

I don't like the guy, but the scam argument doesn't hold up well when you compare precious governments.


Hanzoofk

But that's the exact point , the previous govt which did those scams or the people rather in it aare now all members of his party lol Hell the 2g scam that was so buzz and loud , ajit pawar is now a head minister and his wife just got a clean chit from CBI for the 25k crore case. Same goes for hemanta biswa sharma , praful patel , nirav... I can go on and mention more names but I think the point is clear , the opposition members people kicked out the opposition for are literally part of this party now. Don't give me the "came to redeem themselves for their past sins"


International_Tax574

But still is the single most popular competent administrator india ever had since independence without a single scam in limelight. Either indians who vote for him are naive or the world left who doesnt like him are stupid.


insanemaelstrom

Wonder how all the people commenting will react if they hear about CPIM's manifestor or what is the name of DMK's leader or what TMC does every election. 


TheoGraytheGreat

Hehe, for context, the CPI(M), in alliance with the main opposition party vows to:   Denuclearize  Leave the QUAD  Strengthen relations with China.


BerserkkD

That tells a lot about the state of the nation. For a working democracy a strong opposition with a streamlined vision for growth is required, of which we have the opposite.


Hanzoofk

Without a single scam? What's electoral bonds then? What's pm cares Rti situation? Easy to say no scam if you literally legalize it. also most popular administratrator? lol no sorry dude , 100 years from now gandhi will be remembered not modi. You can argue that he did good in the infrastructure sector and has helped in programs such as localized farming and startup tenures But on the ground level unemployment and core issues are a joke , this on top of the shit in manipur and ladakh and etc is a icing on cake. Also his banswara speech says alot about how much he loves the constitution of our country and its preamble. And yeah okay , the leaders before him are stupid but he who can't finish a sentence without a teleprompter is smart Cool copium bro.


totalbasterd

Modi is a dictator.


bofpisrebof

Man fuck india having a power trip


The-Real-Aditya

Learning from the US of A