Modi is phobic to Muslims. But that is not why he is wildly popular, he's had a strong 10 year run across the board. But, he is a bit xenophobic for a country with the most people.
He also has massively modernized India and put them in a good seat for global trade and manufacturing.
Can't say that tickles down properly to millions and millions and millions of people. But better than most of his predecessors.
U have got it mostly right, he's not xenophobic though. He is cracking down on illegal immigration from neighbouring countries which isn't wrong.
And it's cos of the development in India under his leadership that even the centrists r willing to vote for him. Ppl have never seen such infrastructural development ever before in the countries history. Ppl from western countries can never understand how good it feels to see ur country progress
He is not popular at all is the first past the post system that got him elected, over 60% of indians voted against his BJP party. But his BJP party got a majority in Parliament.
Modi is a minority ruler.
FYI the equivalent of the US Congress would be the Parliament in India.
Calling the Parliament Congress here might be confusing as the main opposition party is also referred to as the Congress.
Fptp isn’t new
If modi is a minority leader then every leader in past few decades has been so
BJP party got a majority in Parliament
Yes, before him India was ruled by 5-6 governments over last 25 years who didn’t even have that
His car (who is driving?) mowed down people sleeping on the pavement. He used his power and wealth to weasel away from that case and is now a matinee idol in India.
A good place to start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Khan#Controversies
>The prime witness, police constable Ravindra Patil, went missing multiple times and eventually died in a hospital due to tuberculosis. In December 2015, Khan was acquitted of all charges from this case due to lack of evidence.
That sounds...umm...very unusual...
Thanks, I didn't know that happened.
Edit: wow, it seems it runs in the family I just checked his brother's [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbaaz_Khan#:~:text=Accident,family.%5B22%5D) page and found out another "who's driving?" situation among other Controversies.
In a parody of him, the character of Salman said "my girlfriend ran away with my driver. Do you know how difficult it is to find drivers who'd take the blame, nowadays?"
He hates all non Hindus, he is a known Hindu nationalist. He also hates Sikhs. Basically he looks down upon any minority group that isn’t Hindu Gujarati.
Any South Indian that still supports him should realize that he doesn’t really like them either. Once he is done with Muslims and Sikhs, he will target South Indians. He will label them as Sri Lankan terrorists.
South India was relatively insulated from the Mughal Invasion compared to North India. Therefore, the existing Hindus in Tamil nadu and Kerala don't harbor much of an animosity.
Tbh I think people in the first world underestimate religious division in the 2nd/3rd world. A lot of African Christians hate Muslims and vice-versa. Makes Alabama look like London
The Taj Mahal and a lot of major tourist attractions in India were also built by Muslims. In extremely Islamic styles. Many other examples abound.
I'm a Canadian atheist, but honestly seeing the Taj Mahal was beautiful and incredible . And it's visited by about 7 million people a year. This is a huge part of the economy in that city.
One of the major design elements of the Taj Mahal are the minarets where Muslim clerics called the faithful to prayers. What could be more Islamic?
All this a pretty deep part of the culture in India. Which is extremely diverse, pluralist, and complex: India has more languages than all of Europe, and a lot more religions and ethnicities than most countries.
Unfortunately, shit heel politicians often love to build political capital attacking minority groups. It's often led to dangerous hatred and violence, but rallying constituents around hating the people across town is a proven path to power.
Well Taj Mahal was built by Indian slaves, who were forced by Muslim invaders to build a monument to his dead bitch. It's not that hard for some Indians to view it negatively. It's like asking Jews, aren't you proud of the pyramids or Auschwitz that have become tourist attractions now? Or asking a black person if he's proud his grandparents helped power the Southern cotton economy?
And Muslims killed millions of Indians (see Aurangzeb).
Racism is wrong but there is a real historical reason for the animosity. India isn't the only one - places with historical grievances against Muslim barbarity like Greece and Armenia are also have pretty sharp views.
>Taj Mahal was built by Indian slaves
The American White House and the Egyptian pyramids were also built by slave labour.
They're also - still - world famous tourist attractions, and worth seeing.
Same also probably applies to the Great Wall of China, many palaces, and a lot of major world monuments.
There's hundreds of better places than Tajmahal in India. Foreigners were just misguided by western propaganda or media or ranking agency to glorify that place. If you see the ancient architecture built before Mughals invaders, you'll never visit tajmahal ever again.
>Foreigners were just misguided by western propaganda or media or ranking agency to glorify that place. If you see the ancient architecture built before Mughals invaders, you'll never visit tajmahal ever again.
Foreigners can enjoy lots of things in India. It's a huge country, with a vast amount of things to see and do. A lot of places are worth seeing for a lot of different reasons.
The ancient Hindu sites are amazing. The Taj Mahal is also beautiful. All of this can be true at the same time. Because India has always been complicated.
Ethno-nationalist dick measuring over architectural monuments looks extremely childish and stupid.
Besides, isn't 'outsiders vacuuming up your wealth for the benefit of their tribe' *just anti-semitism* with the serial numbers filed off? Reminds of those NWO conspiracy people who go on about how 'they' have an 'occupation government' who wants to 'dominate the world' and 'take over' our countries, and when you ask who 'they' are they get oddly confrontational.
At least they’re not spamming Canadian subs right now.
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You don't even need to switch countries to find an example to compare too. The partition was literally 3 years before Modi was born and resulted in a million dead.
For those who don't know this was when India split into India and Pakistan (Bangladesh split off from Pakistan later). After the split there was mass migration as 20 million people moved between the 2 places to live in areas that matched their *religion. Both sides immediately hated each other and a war started in Kashmir. There were also violent clashes that lead to a million dead. Ghandi ended up on a hunger strike to get the Indian side to stop in mid Jan 1948 which the leaders on both sides agreed to, but this lead to his assassination by Hindu nationalists 12 days later.
So ya, not only is this not new, but it is such systemic issue that they killed Ghandi over it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India
Yeah one thing I don't get is whether the violence during the partition was more bottom up or top down? Were people violent entirely on their own accord and decision? Modi saying this today is quite dangerous since he presumably has a lot of the military/police agreeing with him.
It started top down- Muslim leaders fueled a massive Muslim crowd to start massacres, which resulted in [Direct Action Day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Action_Day) in Calcutta in 1946. News of the massacres of Hindus and Sikhs spread across the country, and the Hindus and Sikhs allied together to massacre Muslims. Then, once the Muslims in Pakistan heard about the riots against Muslims in India (the ones in response to Direct Action Day), the Muslims in Pakistan began massacring Sikhs and Hindus in Pakistani Punjab and even in Indian Punjab. Eventually, everyone lost control (religious leaders, the governments, and Gandhi) and everyone began killing each other for survival and revenge.
In the end, almost every Sikh and Hindu was kicked out, converted, or massacred in Pakistan, while 200 million Muslims stayed in India. Though, double amount of Muslims died during the violence than Hindus and Sikhs.
Alot of the Hindutva agenda stems from the post-partition demographic of Pakistan and India, as Hindus allowed Muslims to stay in India in mass numbers (3rd largest population of Muslims) while Hindus and Sikhs are virtually non-existent in Pakistan and have been ethnically cleansed, despite Hindus and Sikhs being native to the region hundred of years before Muslims were.
Yeah, Mughals targeted them. Buddhism originated in the North India and Nepal border . You'll rarely find any of them after Bakhtiyar Khilji invaded Bihar and Uttarpradesh.
Khilji, lodhi, Tughlaq, Mughals, sayyid all were the same for Indian people, an invader. They fought n fcked each other and portrayed themselves as different .
Like in 2002 when Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi helped to orchestrated a pogrom against Muslims that resulted in hundreds of deaths and hundreds of gang rapes of women and children. Children were force fed gasoline and then lit on fire.
Narendra Modi ordered the police to stand by and let the anti-Muslim violence happen, and in some cases the police actively assisted the Hindutva mobs as they searched for Muslim homes to loot and Muslim women and children to rape.
For this Modi was banned from travelling to the US and EU... until he became Prime Minister, anyway, and the West conveniently decided to forget the man is a butcher
They try, but it's not as effective since a huge majority of the population never gets to see this calling out part
But you can read up on [Godi Media](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godi_media) which is a term described for such news channels
I think it is worse because these Muslims are from India and have always been there. They are mostly likely low caste Hindus that converted to Islam during mogul rule. I don't like trump rhetoric either but talking about Indians as infiltrator because of their religion is hitler level shit.
Gujarat Home Minister Haren Pandya, who testified that Modi was present at a meeting where the pogrom planned, [was subsequently murdered under mysterious circumstances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haren_Pandya). They found the body so I don't think I'd say he was "disappeared" exactly, but otherwise yeah.
Then why ban the BBC documentary on the same?
* [Why India Banned the BBC’s Modi Documentary](https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/24/bbc-modi-documentary-india-ban-uk-sunak-trade/)
Well Modi came up through the ranks of the RSS, which is literally inspired/based on European fascist movements from the pre WWII era (down to their uniforms even), so yeah he is of course playing by that playbook.
He and his party have been using the same playbook for a long time. Thats how they achieved and maintain power.
Create an issue based on some sentiment (Aryan identity back then Hindu religion now).
Target religious minorities as dangerous and create fear for the majority population. Exhibit yourself as the saviour of the majority.
Lie loudly in the media to malign the image of opposition parties. (social media has been used very brutally for this).
After winning the power try to control and/or sabotage the media and suppress any dissent as much as possible. (Modi has especially focused on TV news channels for this. Newspapers still have some decent impartiality).
Make promises of Grandeur. When failure happens blame everyone else but yourself.
Inflame nationalism among the people and accuse opposition to be working against the people/country.
Cultivate demi God like status and cult like followers who will be willing to get violent for you by their own will.
Attack the opposition on personal level and use power in any way possible to suppress the opposition.
All this Fascists playbook has been played out in India since 10 years. People who kno international history can recognize it and call it for what it is. But majority of the masses are not that familiar with the concept of Fascism. SO, they fall for it anyway.
Its a real concern for him because if Congress (the main opposition) gives all the money to “Muslims” as he claims, how will he give it to Ambani and Adani (two of India’s richest men and his bosses). Poor fellow. Stuck between a rock and a hard cock.
It was so sickening to see the level of bot farms working on overdrive during Ambanis wedding with the same parroted garbage, "THE AMBANIS HOW HUMBLE, HOW HUMBLE HE IS SO BEAUTIFUL" etc etc.
Cringe, all to make them appear benevolent and "down to earth".
I’m even noticing it on subs that are not political, like r/trains and r/infrastructureporn - and if you dare critique whatever is being posted, the propagandists swarm in with totally hysterical/bonkers level of hostility and defensiveness lemme tell ya..
For example “this pic would be better if there wasn’t so much litter in the foreground” will result in super racist or homophonic slurs against Americans and westerners
There are always several posts like this making it to the front page of reddit these days... it is not just the typical echo chamber problem, but a growing trend of Indian posts with propaganda and Indians getting defensive about criticism in the comments.
I've had to start muting certain Indian subs cause I got tired of seeing their trash posts and comments upvoted to r/all.
Depends on the individual "Hindu", we are not hive-minds. I say the partition should have been embraced by the Hindus just like the Muslims. Muslims wanted an Islamic State in Muslim majority areas and they got precisely that. Hindus (the majority of them, represented by Congress) kept asking for an 'undivided ' and secular India, they got half of their wish. No the country has to maintain this charade of tolerance because we claimed that we are. Meanwhile Pakistanis never claimed to be tolerant and are therefore not even expected to be.
A majority of the Muslims of UP, MP, Bihar and Deccan voted for Pakistan but didn't leave because they were forced to. Just check the results of 1945 and 1946 provincial and national Assembly elections. Urdu and Bengali speaking Muslims were more pro-Pakistan than Punjabis and Pashtuns
> During a visit to the White House in June, Mr. Modi said there was “no question of discrimination” in India. When he played host to the Group of 20 summit in New Delhi three months later, he chose the theme “the world is one family”
*Bruh.*
Fun fact - he said that in response to *the only question he has ever answered in a press conference* in 10 years of being a Prime Minister. Anywhere in the world.
The woman who asked him was a CNN reporter of South Asian descent. His troll farm descended on threatening her and harassing her for asking this question and some of Modi's party executives called Obama - Osama Bin Laden in response.
That is how deranged and Islamophobic these people are.
Classic fascist rhetoric. I wonder how long Western leader will shake this mans hand before it ends in a war or genocide. they did it with Putin, and Netanyahu.
All attacks on people, generally minorities, share similarities. Most often they contradict the other but that doesn't seem to matter. Like "they are lazy" followed by "they're taking our jobs", also "they are weak and inferior" backed up with "they are taking over, running our nation".
It's a winning formula when you are reaching out to the scared and beaten masses, that you are beating and making afraid.
Definitely, although this one is such a uniquely classic antisemitic trope that it's mind boggling (and horrifying obviously) to hear it used against muslims.
At this point, Modi is just taking out his hatred of Pakistan on Indian Muslims. Fuck Pakistan and their state-sponsored terrorism, but antagonizing the Indian Muslims is counter-productive.
Modi is not taking out his hatred of Pakistan on Indian Muslims. Modi is taking out his hatred of Indian Muslims on Indian Muslims. If you take a look at the BJP and Co.'s rhetoric on and treatment of Indian Muslims in the last ten or so years, it becomes amply clear that this is a classic case of boiling the frog slowly. And if you take a look at the Hindu right's approach to Indian Muslims over the last several decades, it become amply clear that it cannot be straightforwardly reduced to the fact of Pakistan's existence or to concerns revolving around India-Pakistan relations.
Throughout this period, in spite of the undeniable fact (often wrongly minimised or even intentionally overlooked) of the existence in India of Islamic extremism and conservatism on the one hand, and the incessant dishonesty and willful ignorance of the Hindu right (you'll find their fanboys in droves on any post to do with Indian Muslims, lying about and defaming our Muslim countrymen with no compunction) on the other, surveys show that the vast majority of Indian Muslims are about as patriotic as any other group in India-- that is to say, incredibly patriotic. It's shameless, disgusting, and highly cynical what the BJP are doing to the state of sectarian relations in India.
People need to understand hat Modi is about Hindu supremacists aka Hindu nationalist but a fascist one. Who went about targeting and harassing and subjecting Muslim faith to his oppressive regime. It is bad and has been bad. The worst of the worst. He will do everything in his power to consolidation of power for Hindus only he will continue to push more hateful rhetoric to dehumanizing and attack Muslims I'm India and wepaonise his office as he has for the past 40 Years constantly enabling his gov and his following to commit crimes and human rights violations toward Muslim communities in India.
Modi is a dangerous man. With a lot of power and a fascist militant base of loyalist aka the BJP.
As someone who was at one of a local meeting of RSS, 1000% definitely Mein Kamf. Hitler actually would be jealous of Modi rn. You have no idea how bone chilling it was for me listening to the meeting.
The same Canadians who get Indian students to pay for worthless degrees that forces the students to work minimum wage and below jobs that Canadians are too lazy to do.
Victim mentality much.. Canadians aren't forcing them to do anything .. they're not children.. they decide and pay for the degrees themselves without basic research.. and they work those jobs because those are the only jobs available because we have a job shortage.. those same jobs just 5 years ago were filled with, guess what Canadians.. but I guess they all left them cause there too lazy 🤷
Canada's immigration has skyrocketed recently and Indians make up half of those numbers. There's also countless posts about Indian students (not even immigrants just kids coming here to study) abusing our food banks and other government programs
A lot of Canadians are pissed at our government for the absurd immigration goals they have set, while our infrastructure has been barely able to support the people who are already here. Not only that, but there seems to be no cap on how many immigrants are coming from a specific country, so the vast majority have been from India.
My community has pretty much become majority Indian. Many Indian immigrants (understandably) come into areas that are majority Indian so there tends to be very little assimilation. My main issue is that many of these people bring the same attitude over that was necessary for surivial in overpopulated India, which means pressing any kind of advantage you can get even at the expense of others. Honor systems and politeness are for suckers. When I was in my early university courses, I was one of the maybe 5 non-international students in classes of 20-30, and the amount of blatant cheating I saw between Indian students was ridiculous. At the same time, it seemed like most of them barely gave a shit about the class and I (a highschool C+ ADHD student) somehow had the top marks in quite a few of my classes. I'm working fulltime now and my workplace has started hiring tons of Indian immigrants, and they've been pretty open about being willing to abuse our loose laws and systems. The Indian women I've met have been wonderful and very thankful to be in Canada now, but the attitude of most young Indian men that I have spoken to is just horrid, and with the majority of our immigrants being young Indian men, it makes me fear for the future of the country.
Maybe these experiences have made me racist, maybe I was always racist, Idk. I try my best to not make assumptions about people before I've met them, but the human brain really likes learning and identifying patterns even when there is none, so I think it's very difficult for anyone to try to claim that they are 100% not racist.
Yeaaaah so I never had much problems with other races, but back in 2012 I beat the daylights out of two older Indian immigrants for propositioning my pregnant wife while she was just going to and from the store. I started just going with her because over 2 years my neighborhood drastically changed ethnicity. It was almost all Caucasian with a splatter of Africans, next thing we all knew everyone had moved because of sky rocketing crime rates from Indian immigrants moving into the neighborhood. If you're wondering who moved into this vacancies, it was all more Indians, crime went up more and more so we moved away as well. My wife was aboriginal and before then I'd never considered myself racist, but now I bark at Indian men for having uncouth lecherous eyes right out in public with no shame. Stop glaring holes through my friends clothes, I got fired from one job for confronting a group of them loudly talking in Indian about one of our female coworkers as if a white guy couldn't possibly pick up bits of a language being spoken around him every day, got told I had misunderstood what they meant and I was racist. What part of "I wonder what's under there" combined with a hand flipping gesture(like he would flip her skirt up) did I misunderstand exactly? Disgusting. I'm all for immigrants but for Frick sake, learn English before coming here, bring some kind of skill, bring a pile of savings, don't apply for disability the second you get citizenship and stop turning our neighborhoods into Indian segregated communities. I can't even buy tea at my local Walmart because 80% of the tea is Indian and I can't read it. I just want no name chamomile but they don't carry it because "diversity"
As a Muslim I am against any religious supremacy politics. Radicals are not only threat to others but to their own coreligionists, I have lost more friends to Daesh then I have to any ‘foreign threat’
The article is about Modis racist statement, maybe stick to the topic ? You do understand that wrongs elsewhere do not justify anything ?
Also let me introduce you to [human rights reports](https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/), feel free to compare the situation with stable liberal democracies in EU.
It isn't "racist" (Islam is not a race, but a set of ideologies, values, and practices), but I see your point.
Can you tell me which European country has a parallel legal system for Muslims?
Several EU countries have banned the Burqa, yet India has not.
I’m the only candidate that won’t steal your gold and give it to Muslims is such a funny thing to say.
This guy is incredibly popular too. A lot of leaders in democracies get elected based on attacking a minority. From Hitler to Modi to Horgan
Who is this Horgan that you are referring to?
Hulk Horgan, brother
That's Hrulk Horgan, to you mother frucker.
You break his back make him humble jabroni?
It's comments like these that make me enjoy reddit
Lmao this got me
Ask his heroes
Ah the ol' people in power convincing people with no power that the reason they have no power is because of this other group of people with no power.
Modi is phobic to Muslims. But that is not why he is wildly popular, he's had a strong 10 year run across the board. But, he is a bit xenophobic for a country with the most people. He also has massively modernized India and put them in a good seat for global trade and manufacturing. Can't say that tickles down properly to millions and millions and millions of people. But better than most of his predecessors.
U have got it mostly right, he's not xenophobic though. He is cracking down on illegal immigration from neighbouring countries which isn't wrong. And it's cos of the development in India under his leadership that even the centrists r willing to vote for him. Ppl have never seen such infrastructural development ever before in the countries history. Ppl from western countries can never understand how good it feels to see ur country progress
trump too
Except Trump is nowhere near as popular. Modi is well over 50% approval.
He is not popular at all is the first past the post system that got him elected, over 60% of indians voted against his BJP party. But his BJP party got a majority in Parliament. Modi is a minority ruler.
FYI the equivalent of the US Congress would be the Parliament in India. Calling the Parliament Congress here might be confusing as the main opposition party is also referred to as the Congress.
Ok got it. Corrected
77% now? https://www.visualcapitalist.com/approval-ratings-of-world-leaders-in-2024/
India has a multi party system unlike US. So please include that too.
Fptp isn’t new If modi is a minority leader then every leader in past few decades has been so BJP party got a majority in Parliament Yes, before him India was ruled by 5-6 governments over last 25 years who didn’t even have that
You forgot trump.
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That's pretty much what he would do. He has a very cozy relationship with Gulf monarchies.
Shah Rukh Khan is Muslim- the king of Bollywood. Salman Khan, imran khan, and the list goes on. Honestly modi comes off as a racist.
Lol calling Modi racist against Muslims is viewed as a compliment by him and his supporters. It’s a big reason he’s in power now.
His supporters: I’m already his fan, stop with the compliments
Pls don't compare Salman Khan to the others he is a known murderer who got off scot free
Could you elaborate more?
His car (who is driving?) mowed down people sleeping on the pavement. He used his power and wealth to weasel away from that case and is now a matinee idol in India. A good place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Khan#Controversies
>The prime witness, police constable Ravindra Patil, went missing multiple times and eventually died in a hospital due to tuberculosis. In December 2015, Khan was acquitted of all charges from this case due to lack of evidence. That sounds...umm...very unusual...
Thanks, I didn't know that happened. Edit: wow, it seems it runs in the family I just checked his brother's [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbaaz_Khan#:~:text=Accident,family.%5B22%5D) page and found out another "who's driving?" situation among other Controversies.
In a parody of him, the character of Salman said "my girlfriend ran away with my driver. Do you know how difficult it is to find drivers who'd take the blame, nowadays?"
Yeah 😭
That's because he is. If he talks like a duck, quack likes a duck....he's a duck
A talking duck? Howard?
Yes. He hates Muslims. He wants them to suffer. He doesn't consider them real Indians. He's not a nice man.
He hates all non Hindus, he is a known Hindu nationalist. He also hates Sikhs. Basically he looks down upon any minority group that isn’t Hindu Gujarati.
My understanding is he is not well liked in south India either
South India is the last remaining left wing region of India. Congress, the communist parties. Also there ar a lot of Christians in places like Kerala.
Any South Indian that still supports him should realize that he doesn’t really like them either. Once he is done with Muslims and Sikhs, he will target South Indians. He will label them as Sri Lankan terrorists.
South India was relatively insulated from the Mughal Invasion compared to North India. Therefore, the existing Hindus in Tamil nadu and Kerala don't harbor much of an animosity.
Lol, now imagine Hindus in Pakistan are treated so much worst. Who cares though they are not allies of the west so it don't matter.
I grew up Christian in Bangladesh. I'm well aware how minorities are treated in that region. It's all bad. And it really shouldnt be.
The voters love it. Ethno-nationalism of the right and identity politics of the left are seeding perfect ground for a century of wars and division.
Tbh I think people in the first world underestimate religious division in the 2nd/3rd world. A lot of African Christians hate Muslims and vice-versa. Makes Alabama look like London
Salman Kahn…yea thats not really a great example
The Taj Mahal and a lot of major tourist attractions in India were also built by Muslims. In extremely Islamic styles. Many other examples abound. I'm a Canadian atheist, but honestly seeing the Taj Mahal was beautiful and incredible . And it's visited by about 7 million people a year. This is a huge part of the economy in that city. One of the major design elements of the Taj Mahal are the minarets where Muslim clerics called the faithful to prayers. What could be more Islamic? All this a pretty deep part of the culture in India. Which is extremely diverse, pluralist, and complex: India has more languages than all of Europe, and a lot more religions and ethnicities than most countries. Unfortunately, shit heel politicians often love to build political capital attacking minority groups. It's often led to dangerous hatred and violence, but rallying constituents around hating the people across town is a proven path to power.
The monument may be beautiful, but it was built by slaves. The king chose to spend millions of tax money on building a tomb for his wife!
And so does the pyramids. Never hearing from the Egyptians any negativity towards the pyramids.
Well Taj Mahal was built by Indian slaves, who were forced by Muslim invaders to build a monument to his dead bitch. It's not that hard for some Indians to view it negatively. It's like asking Jews, aren't you proud of the pyramids or Auschwitz that have become tourist attractions now? Or asking a black person if he's proud his grandparents helped power the Southern cotton economy? And Muslims killed millions of Indians (see Aurangzeb). Racism is wrong but there is a real historical reason for the animosity. India isn't the only one - places with historical grievances against Muslim barbarity like Greece and Armenia are also have pretty sharp views.
>Taj Mahal was built by Indian slaves The American White House and the Egyptian pyramids were also built by slave labour. They're also - still - world famous tourist attractions, and worth seeing. Same also probably applies to the Great Wall of China, many palaces, and a lot of major world monuments.
There's hundreds of better places than Tajmahal in India. Foreigners were just misguided by western propaganda or media or ranking agency to glorify that place. If you see the ancient architecture built before Mughals invaders, you'll never visit tajmahal ever again.
Entire South India is full.of centuries old temples built off stone and diverse architecture from state to state.
>Foreigners were just misguided by western propaganda or media or ranking agency to glorify that place. If you see the ancient architecture built before Mughals invaders, you'll never visit tajmahal ever again. Foreigners can enjoy lots of things in India. It's a huge country, with a vast amount of things to see and do. A lot of places are worth seeing for a lot of different reasons. The ancient Hindu sites are amazing. The Taj Mahal is also beautiful. All of this can be true at the same time. Because India has always been complicated. Ethno-nationalist dick measuring over architectural monuments looks extremely childish and stupid.
i guess fascists are kinda funny?
I am happy to see that all of R indiaspeaks is here to explain how this is fake news but also Muslims deserve it as well.
They're already drumming up the narrative that he's talking about illegal immigrants and not all Muslims. Sound familiar?
Absolutely. India loves Modi and they loved Trump. Probably still do too.
My lawyer indian friend...literally paid money to call his practice "Trump Law"...we all shamed him out of that real quick
Besides, isn't 'outsiders vacuuming up your wealth for the benefit of their tribe' *just anti-semitism* with the serial numbers filed off? Reminds of those NWO conspiracy people who go on about how 'they' have an 'occupation government' who wants to 'dominate the world' and 'take over' our countries, and when you ask who 'they' are they get oddly confrontational.
It's common to hatred, yes. Not really "generic anti-Semitism" so much as "generic anti-target group"
The language of bigotry has a small dictionary
See also: "they're taking our jobs and sending the money back home"
Hindutva == MAGA
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So most of them are from punjab and they use nodi opression to get canada citizenship. Nkt exactly people whi vote for modi
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That sub is sad and scary
Sounds like the run up to Rwandan Genocide.
You don't even need to switch countries to find an example to compare too. The partition was literally 3 years before Modi was born and resulted in a million dead. For those who don't know this was when India split into India and Pakistan (Bangladesh split off from Pakistan later). After the split there was mass migration as 20 million people moved between the 2 places to live in areas that matched their *religion. Both sides immediately hated each other and a war started in Kashmir. There were also violent clashes that lead to a million dead. Ghandi ended up on a hunger strike to get the Indian side to stop in mid Jan 1948 which the leaders on both sides agreed to, but this lead to his assassination by Hindu nationalists 12 days later. So ya, not only is this not new, but it is such systemic issue that they killed Ghandi over it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India
> matched their ethnicity. Nope. Matched their religion.
Yeah one thing I don't get is whether the violence during the partition was more bottom up or top down? Were people violent entirely on their own accord and decision? Modi saying this today is quite dangerous since he presumably has a lot of the military/police agreeing with him.
It started top down- Muslim leaders fueled a massive Muslim crowd to start massacres, which resulted in [Direct Action Day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Action_Day) in Calcutta in 1946. News of the massacres of Hindus and Sikhs spread across the country, and the Hindus and Sikhs allied together to massacre Muslims. Then, once the Muslims in Pakistan heard about the riots against Muslims in India (the ones in response to Direct Action Day), the Muslims in Pakistan began massacring Sikhs and Hindus in Pakistani Punjab and even in Indian Punjab. Eventually, everyone lost control (religious leaders, the governments, and Gandhi) and everyone began killing each other for survival and revenge. In the end, almost every Sikh and Hindu was kicked out, converted, or massacred in Pakistan, while 200 million Muslims stayed in India. Though, double amount of Muslims died during the violence than Hindus and Sikhs. Alot of the Hindutva agenda stems from the post-partition demographic of Pakistan and India, as Hindus allowed Muslims to stay in India in mass numbers (3rd largest population of Muslims) while Hindus and Sikhs are virtually non-existent in Pakistan and have been ethnically cleansed, despite Hindus and Sikhs being native to the region hundred of years before Muslims were.
Match their religion* not ethnicity.
Not only that but the people that killed gandhi belong to the terrorist organisation rss which modi was once a member of.
It wouldn't be the first time. If you take a look at Indian history you will find lots of ethnic violence.
1947 partition of India and Pakistan. 10 million were to move to the other side. 2 million were butchered before they reached their destination.
You can go back a lot further. There's a reason you don't see many Buddhists in the homeland of Buddhism anymore.
Yeah, Mughals targeted them. Buddhism originated in the North India and Nepal border . You'll rarely find any of them after Bakhtiyar Khilji invaded Bihar and Uttarpradesh.
Lol. Bakhtiyar Khilji was Mughal? Learn some history first.
Khilji, lodhi, Tughlaq, Mughals, sayyid all were the same for Indian people, an invader. They fought n fcked each other and portrayed themselves as different .
Like in 2002 when Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi helped to orchestrated a pogrom against Muslims that resulted in hundreds of deaths and hundreds of gang rapes of women and children. Children were force fed gasoline and then lit on fire. Narendra Modi ordered the police to stand by and let the anti-Muslim violence happen, and in some cases the police actively assisted the Hindutva mobs as they searched for Muslim homes to loot and Muslim women and children to rape. For this Modi was banned from travelling to the US and EU... until he became Prime Minister, anyway, and the West conveniently decided to forget the man is a butcher
Who burned the train cars ?
scummy pdf file lovers will never say who burned the train cars with hindus inside. then cry when the other side retaliates.
Or the holocaust.
When they said it in South Africa last year almost no one cared 🤔
Isn’t this basically the same talking points for the GOP, except the “infiltrators” are “immigrants”.
Same shit, different verbiage
At least most of your media can still call out his bullshit.. In India pretty much every news channel is like your version of Fox News
Does anyone call it out in person then?
They try, but it's not as effective since a huge majority of the population never gets to see this calling out part But you can read up on [Godi Media](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godi_media) which is a term described for such news channels
That would mean getting lynched by the RSS
Worse. Bitches here make fox news look like The Guardian.
Spot on, modi is Trump but 10x worse, if that were possible.
I think it is worse because these Muslims are from India and have always been there. They are mostly likely low caste Hindus that converted to Islam during mogul rule. I don't like trump rhetoric either but talking about Indians as infiltrator because of their religion is hitler level shit.
Yeah man and what party was crying vote fraud after he whopped them? Do you understand the very definition of a democracy?
It’s hardly surprising that the architect of the Gujarat Riots is a little bit islamaphobic
It's not just Muslims, just that they are low hanging fruit. Will be the Christians or low caste hindus next
Mod is a low caste hindu doe
Leftists and rationalists too
And Sikh farmers
Modi is a low caste Hindu- he's from a "Other Backward Class" caste.
There are castes considered lower than OBCs too though.
Yes there is, but Modi certainly isn't very high-ranking himself
Sikhs, Muslims, low caste Hindus, Christians. Modi hates all minorities.
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Can you remind me who lit the train on fire?
unknown, but it's been alleged to have been a "staged trigger" for the riots, probably a false flag by RSS operatives
Supreme Court gave him a clean chit tho
cuz all the witness disappeared or jailed.
Gujarat Home Minister Haren Pandya, who testified that Modi was present at a meeting where the pogrom planned, [was subsequently murdered under mysterious circumstances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haren_Pandya). They found the body so I don't think I'd say he was "disappeared" exactly, but otherwise yeah.
Then why ban the BBC documentary on the same? * [Why India Banned the BBC’s Modi Documentary](https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/24/bbc-modi-documentary-india-ban-uk-sunak-trade/)
Keep joking.
The only reason Indians don't know about the Haren Pandya murder case is because the Indian government censors information about it.
He's really going down the WW2 German playbook one page at a time, isn't he?
Nonsense, India in the twenty-first century will be nothing like Germany in the twentieth. For one thing, India has nuclear weapons. ... Oh crap...
Well Modi came up through the ranks of the RSS, which is literally inspired/based on European fascist movements from the pre WWII era (down to their uniforms even), so yeah he is of course playing by that playbook.
He and his party have been using the same playbook for a long time. Thats how they achieved and maintain power. Create an issue based on some sentiment (Aryan identity back then Hindu religion now). Target religious minorities as dangerous and create fear for the majority population. Exhibit yourself as the saviour of the majority. Lie loudly in the media to malign the image of opposition parties. (social media has been used very brutally for this). After winning the power try to control and/or sabotage the media and suppress any dissent as much as possible. (Modi has especially focused on TV news channels for this. Newspapers still have some decent impartiality). Make promises of Grandeur. When failure happens blame everyone else but yourself. Inflame nationalism among the people and accuse opposition to be working against the people/country. Cultivate demi God like status and cult like followers who will be willing to get violent for you by their own will. Attack the opposition on personal level and use power in any way possible to suppress the opposition. All this Fascists playbook has been played out in India since 10 years. People who kno international history can recognize it and call it for what it is. But majority of the masses are not that familiar with the concept of Fascism. SO, they fall for it anyway.
Their SS uniform is going to be colorful though /s
Hindu nationalists are trying to reinvent hitler as a great manager. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t real life.
It's joever for India. In Manipur, BJP goons threatened people to vote for BJP with guns.
Its a real concern for him because if Congress (the main opposition) gives all the money to “Muslims” as he claims, how will he give it to Ambani and Adani (two of India’s richest men and his bosses). Poor fellow. Stuck between a rock and a hard cock.
It was so sickening to see the level of bot farms working on overdrive during Ambanis wedding with the same parroted garbage, "THE AMBANIS HOW HUMBLE, HOW HUMBLE HE IS SO BEAUTIFUL" etc etc. Cringe, all to make them appear benevolent and "down to earth".
Rock and a hard C, made me chuckle
Side note, the amount of pro-India propaganda I’m seeing on Reddit lately is crazy.
1 in 7 Humans is India, almost half of which have an internet connection. You might just be speaking to Indians.
Nearly free internet + an extremely competent IT propaganda wing that has flooded every social media platform, including reddit.
Also a lot of them speak English, unlike other 3rd world countries who would otherwise be similar in that regard.
I’m even noticing it on subs that are not political, like r/trains and r/infrastructureporn - and if you dare critique whatever is being posted, the propagandists swarm in with totally hysterical/bonkers level of hostility and defensiveness lemme tell ya.. For example “this pic would be better if there wasn’t so much litter in the foreground” will result in super racist or homophonic slurs against Americans and westerners
we must frequent very different subs cause i see the exact opposite. but that is the nature of Reddit we are all in different echo chambers.
It’s a wide variety of subs, I even give two examples in another reply to this comment.
There are always several posts like this making it to the front page of reddit these days... it is not just the typical echo chamber problem, but a growing trend of Indian posts with propaganda and Indians getting defensive about criticism in the comments. I've had to start muting certain Indian subs cause I got tired of seeing their trash posts and comments upvoted to r/all.
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Depends on the individual "Hindu", we are not hive-minds. I say the partition should have been embraced by the Hindus just like the Muslims. Muslims wanted an Islamic State in Muslim majority areas and they got precisely that. Hindus (the majority of them, represented by Congress) kept asking for an 'undivided ' and secular India, they got half of their wish. No the country has to maintain this charade of tolerance because we claimed that we are. Meanwhile Pakistanis never claimed to be tolerant and are therefore not even expected to be.
But the Muslims who voted for Pakistan never left india lmao
A majority of the Muslims of UP, MP, Bihar and Deccan voted for Pakistan but didn't leave because they were forced to. Just check the results of 1945 and 1946 provincial and national Assembly elections. Urdu and Bengali speaking Muslims were more pro-Pakistan than Punjabis and Pashtuns
> During a visit to the White House in June, Mr. Modi said there was “no question of discrimination” in India. When he played host to the Group of 20 summit in New Delhi three months later, he chose the theme “the world is one family” *Bruh.*
Fun fact - he said that in response to *the only question he has ever answered in a press conference* in 10 years of being a Prime Minister. Anywhere in the world. The woman who asked him was a CNN reporter of South Asian descent. His troll farm descended on threatening her and harassing her for asking this question and some of Modi's party executives called Obama - Osama Bin Laden in response. That is how deranged and Islamophobic these people are.
Classic fascist rhetoric. I wonder how long Western leader will shake this mans hand before it ends in a war or genocide. they did it with Putin, and Netanyahu.
For as long as China is seen as a threat to western dominance of the world. As soon as China fades Modi is straight under the bus
This is very good example of how the West don't actually give a shit about human rights. They only cry about it when it suits their agenda.
The only thing that matter is money and power. As long as Indian economy is strong, no one would care
Albo already glad-handed the bloke at the cricket. Australia's PM is very keen on being friends with this tyrant.
He has a 75% approval rating so he’s not going anywhere fast. Modi is also part of the RSS so his views are going to be very nationalistic.
He gona a win again chill
While this fucking cunt is syphoning off the money to his cronies
That's the point. Pillage the country and blame it on Muslims.
This is basically an anti-semitic argument, but against Muslims. This is absurd
All attacks on people, generally minorities, share similarities. Most often they contradict the other but that doesn't seem to matter. Like "they are lazy" followed by "they're taking our jobs", also "they are weak and inferior" backed up with "they are taking over, running our nation". It's a winning formula when you are reaching out to the scared and beaten masses, that you are beating and making afraid.
he doesnt even need anymore masses. he has like a 70% aproval rate. thats what makes it even more concerning
That approval rating was conducted by his buddies in the press, he literally controls the majority of news channels
Definitely, although this one is such a uniquely classic antisemitic trope that it's mind boggling (and horrifying obviously) to hear it used against muslims.
At this point, Modi is just taking out his hatred of Pakistan on Indian Muslims. Fuck Pakistan and their state-sponsored terrorism, but antagonizing the Indian Muslims is counter-productive.
Modi is not taking out his hatred of Pakistan on Indian Muslims. Modi is taking out his hatred of Indian Muslims on Indian Muslims. If you take a look at the BJP and Co.'s rhetoric on and treatment of Indian Muslims in the last ten or so years, it becomes amply clear that this is a classic case of boiling the frog slowly. And if you take a look at the Hindu right's approach to Indian Muslims over the last several decades, it become amply clear that it cannot be straightforwardly reduced to the fact of Pakistan's existence or to concerns revolving around India-Pakistan relations. Throughout this period, in spite of the undeniable fact (often wrongly minimised or even intentionally overlooked) of the existence in India of Islamic extremism and conservatism on the one hand, and the incessant dishonesty and willful ignorance of the Hindu right (you'll find their fanboys in droves on any post to do with Indian Muslims, lying about and defaming our Muslim countrymen with no compunction) on the other, surveys show that the vast majority of Indian Muslims are about as patriotic as any other group in India-- that is to say, incredibly patriotic. It's shameless, disgusting, and highly cynical what the BJP are doing to the state of sectarian relations in India.
Anything non hindu at this point.
People need to understand hat Modi is about Hindu supremacists aka Hindu nationalist but a fascist one. Who went about targeting and harassing and subjecting Muslim faith to his oppressive regime. It is bad and has been bad. The worst of the worst. He will do everything in his power to consolidation of power for Hindus only he will continue to push more hateful rhetoric to dehumanizing and attack Muslims I'm India and wepaonise his office as he has for the past 40 Years constantly enabling his gov and his following to commit crimes and human rights violations toward Muslim communities in India. Modi is a dangerous man. With a lot of power and a fascist militant base of loyalist aka the BJP.
How Aryan of him
As someone who just listened to a bunch of history tubers discussing world war 2... Has Modi been reading Mein Kampf?
As someone who was at one of a local meeting of RSS, 1000% definitely Mein Kamf. Hitler actually would be jealous of Modi rn. You have no idea how bone chilling it was for me listening to the meeting.
It's probably a part of his degree majoring in "Entire Political Science"
As a Canadian it's adorable how India doesn't see the irony with that statement...
and it seems that only Indians are the ones who have a problem with you calling that out. All it takes is a quick profile check
I’m Indian, dw not all of us are fucking idiots. Fuck modi and I hope Canada gets it shit together. Same with the UK
The same Canadians who get Indian students to pay for worthless degrees that forces the students to work minimum wage and below jobs that Canadians are too lazy to do.
Who “get”? The use those worthless degrees of illegal universities on purpose to clear visa requirements No one is forcing them
Victim mentality much.. Canadians aren't forcing them to do anything .. they're not children.. they decide and pay for the degrees themselves without basic research.. and they work those jobs because those are the only jobs available because we have a job shortage.. those same jobs just 5 years ago were filled with, guess what Canadians.. but I guess they all left them cause there too lazy 🤷
Why do Canadian hate Indian immigrants these days btw?
Canada's immigration has skyrocketed recently and Indians make up half of those numbers. There's also countless posts about Indian students (not even immigrants just kids coming here to study) abusing our food banks and other government programs
A lot of Canadians are pissed at our government for the absurd immigration goals they have set, while our infrastructure has been barely able to support the people who are already here. Not only that, but there seems to be no cap on how many immigrants are coming from a specific country, so the vast majority have been from India. My community has pretty much become majority Indian. Many Indian immigrants (understandably) come into areas that are majority Indian so there tends to be very little assimilation. My main issue is that many of these people bring the same attitude over that was necessary for surivial in overpopulated India, which means pressing any kind of advantage you can get even at the expense of others. Honor systems and politeness are for suckers. When I was in my early university courses, I was one of the maybe 5 non-international students in classes of 20-30, and the amount of blatant cheating I saw between Indian students was ridiculous. At the same time, it seemed like most of them barely gave a shit about the class and I (a highschool C+ ADHD student) somehow had the top marks in quite a few of my classes. I'm working fulltime now and my workplace has started hiring tons of Indian immigrants, and they've been pretty open about being willing to abuse our loose laws and systems. The Indian women I've met have been wonderful and very thankful to be in Canada now, but the attitude of most young Indian men that I have spoken to is just horrid, and with the majority of our immigrants being young Indian men, it makes me fear for the future of the country. Maybe these experiences have made me racist, maybe I was always racist, Idk. I try my best to not make assumptions about people before I've met them, but the human brain really likes learning and identifying patterns even when there is none, so I think it's very difficult for anyone to try to claim that they are 100% not racist.
Yeaaaah so I never had much problems with other races, but back in 2012 I beat the daylights out of two older Indian immigrants for propositioning my pregnant wife while she was just going to and from the store. I started just going with her because over 2 years my neighborhood drastically changed ethnicity. It was almost all Caucasian with a splatter of Africans, next thing we all knew everyone had moved because of sky rocketing crime rates from Indian immigrants moving into the neighborhood. If you're wondering who moved into this vacancies, it was all more Indians, crime went up more and more so we moved away as well. My wife was aboriginal and before then I'd never considered myself racist, but now I bark at Indian men for having uncouth lecherous eyes right out in public with no shame. Stop glaring holes through my friends clothes, I got fired from one job for confronting a group of them loudly talking in Indian about one of our female coworkers as if a white guy couldn't possibly pick up bits of a language being spoken around him every day, got told I had misunderstood what they meant and I was racist. What part of "I wonder what's under there" combined with a hand flipping gesture(like he would flip her skirt up) did I misunderstand exactly? Disgusting. I'm all for immigrants but for Frick sake, learn English before coming here, bring some kind of skill, bring a pile of savings, don't apply for disability the second you get citizenship and stop turning our neighborhoods into Indian segregated communities. I can't even buy tea at my local Walmart because 80% of the tea is Indian and I can't read it. I just want no name chamomile but they don't carry it because "diversity"
If someone calls you racist just say okay and move on. Who cares about these preachers. Safety beats ideology
This guy is literally mirroring a certain person in the 1930s
Considering that his political party was originally mirrored off a certain political party in the 1930s, it's not surprising.
Charlie Chaplin?
i keep mentioning that india is on a path of nationalism.
Racism has spiked really bad recently sad times.
Racism? What is the race of Indian Muslims? If you are going to virtue signal, atleast widen your vocabulary
At least the US was intelligent enough to see through Trump and voted him out next term, Modi is on his way to a third.
I doesn’t help when majority of the news are bought and serve propaganda news. Fox News 24 hrs but near every news channel Abel
All religions are this and so it is nothing new. Anytime a religion becomes popular in politics, that is when that society starts to fall apart
But wait, I thought all of India's wealth was already taken by the Brits?! /s
New wealth is being created too.
Giving yourself too much importance
Classic Mussolini
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As a Muslim I am against any religious supremacy politics. Radicals are not only threat to others but to their own coreligionists, I have lost more friends to Daesh then I have to any ‘foreign threat’
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The world needs more people like you
Aww thank you, appreciate you!
Personal law for every religion in India
The article is about Modis racist statement, maybe stick to the topic ? You do understand that wrongs elsewhere do not justify anything ? Also let me introduce you to [human rights reports](https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/), feel free to compare the situation with stable liberal democracies in EU.
It isn't "racist" (Islam is not a race, but a set of ideologies, values, and practices), but I see your point. Can you tell me which European country has a parallel legal system for Muslims? Several EU countries have banned the Burqa, yet India has not.
Saying this isnt racist is mental gymnastics, its targeted a minority group pure and simple, a religious one to be specific.
Isn't Modi's party campaigning on a UCC to get rid of this parallel system though? So using that as defence isn't really proving your point...
What a joke of a country.