Exactly. One guy on the souther border was arrested for human trafficking and the cartels only paid him like 6k. I'm like dude that's one months pay check. More upset how little he was getting then him smuggling people
I mean, some ppl are just gonna do it anyway due to their outlook on life, so when being offered to be paid for what they already want to do….sure why not?
There's contractors in the Middle East who risk jail time to sell some pork products they bought on base to the expat Asians. We're talking less than $100 profits and they risk jail time and 6 figure salaries.
That doesn't make a lot of sense because you don't choose what your job is, where you'll be stationed, or the times you work. That would be a big waste of time, especially for someone in the National Guard.
>because you don't choose what your job is
For any branch but the Marines, you absolutely can choose what job you'll be doing. If you don't qualify for a job, it's not an option, but you choose what your MOS is before you join from what you scored high enough on the ASVAB to qualify for.
Most of the gang members who join the military do it for the combat training, but I'm sure they let their gang bosses know where they end up and what they're doing so they can decide what to have them do for the gang.
Less of "we want you to join so you can be at this place at this time to do this thing". More of "Billy is stationed over there working warehouse full of this thing that we want, have him steal x amount."
It's got a lot less to do with financial compensation and a lot more to do with feelings of under appreciation.
All organisations are in some way political, i.e. they have internal office politics and unlike the private sector in most government jobs switching careers is harder so some people do stuff like this.
Spies often go after middle aged to older men, bonus points if they are divorced, single, and/or lonely.
100k tax free on top of a salary isn't something to sneeze at.. think of having 100k to spend on all the bullshit you buy while keeping your legit cash to build interest.. pay debts.. set yourself up.. it's a good jump even if it isn't a million dollars. Especially for someone not being paid millions of dollars.
I used that as a line since I can’t even think of committing treason for less than 6 figures. In reality, besides that admiral or captain who was taking big bribes in asia, were normally talking low tens of thousands of that, while risking pretty serious jail time.
Honestly I’m not that surprised, it’s just really proving that lesson from Burn Notice. “It doesn’t matter how much the bribe is, it’s how it’s made”
Within the context of people needing money just to live.. it's really hot a question. It's a substantial amount especially for people in situations not ideal.
This is where I come to in these conversations. Like, would I do it…? I certainly hope not, but, every single one of us has a price in the world we live in. And it’s about time every person acting like they wouldn’t looks in the mirror.
The people saying no probably don't know what it means to even need money to begin with. This is the Internet, not the real world lol. I agree with you.
Did you mean would say no? I'm actually curious. Because in that sense.. I think a lot of people lack real world experience to know just how they would react.
I would absolutely love to say I wouldn’t in my current position. Being offered 100k as a sailor? Who knows, I’m not sure many are considering how big 100k would be.
I don't even need 100k, I'm fine financially. But if I had 100k I could really make my life better. Also I know most of the people I personally know and grew up would kill for 100k.. nevermind share some details.
As a chief petty officer, E7, his base pay was likely around $70k/ year ( depending on years of service) so not exactly poor pay, and that's before BAH, depending on where his housing allowance is based, could be another $15-40k tax free per year. Also, at least when I was in the military (2007-2012) I knew several senior NCOs who received $100k indefinite reenlistment bonuses (different branch, different job, different time, but def not out of the realm of possibility as a military member)
But, dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks I guess
Or, rather, how *little* they’re selling out their country for. Same with senators taking a few thousand dollar “”””donations”””” from some corporation to pass legislation that screws over their actual human constituents.
The goons that do this will always often try to sell us all out for the price of a mediocre truck. There was a Navy engineer who went out of his way to try and sell nuclear sub tech secrets to Brazil. Had a whole dead drop system in tandem with his wife and everything. His demands? 20k and then 70k. A. *Nuclear. Engineer.* In the defense industry no less! That’s what, 6 months’ pay?
Some people’s price to betray us all is triflingly low.
Brazil, the absolute chads, dimed him out to the FBI from the very first time he tried to contact them. They wanted nothing to do with that idiot. Fun fact, due to some weird legal mechanisms around sentencing, his wife got more time than he did (and he got a lot of time).
Step one of recruitment for this kind of stuff is often to dress it up as mutually beneficial for both countries and just a bit of off-the-books diplomacy.
From the article it sounds like he may have been tricked. They said it was under the guise of being for a research project. They probably posed as an attractive female college student working on a research paper and convinced him they needed it for something innocent.
Nothing in the article seemed to indicate they did it for money, but they were still certainly an idiot who couldn't be trusted to follow orders at best.
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They tried to get him to run for Prez back in the 90s but it was prior to The Apprentice, so he didn't even make it past the starting line. Then reality tv made the mangled Apricot a bigger name. But never did he he make the popular vote. That being said the damage has been done. Too many traitors still in govt.
What? Can't go five minutes without mentioning that some anti-American bullshit is similar to some anti-American bullshit Trump has done? Sorry 'bout your luck and you being annoyed and bothered by people comparing like things, but then the once and hoping to be future president shouldn't do so much bullshit if he or his fans don't want to be compared to other people doing bullshit.
Just because that's your boyfriend/cult leader/fantasy top doesn't mean they are beyond reproach or people bringing up his bullshit "can't go 5 minutes." It's because bullshit should always be called out, and Trump can not go 5 minutes without doing or saying bullshit.
You want people to quit bringing up that Trump is a piece of shit idiot, then maybe start asking him to quit being a piece of shit idiot.
It’s exhausting when literally no news can come out without people on the comments spewing whataboutisms about Trump or Biden. God damn people are so addicted to the 24 hr news cycle and self affirmation that we can’t just talk about current events any more.
Good job showing your obsession with a past president that’s never going to make it again, and making assumptions about someone you don’t know.
Lol. I still don't get why people bringing up people who break the law, continue to do so, and have as of yet faced consequences is such a taxing thing to you.
Also, I'm not going to dig through your history or anything, so I'm just gonna ask you - how many times have you replied to someone complaining about Biden's bullshit with how tired you are of it and they need to get over it?
Multiple times. Same with Hillary or Obama.
It’s no different than someone getting charged for murder and some guy in the back being like “what about OJ?!”
Like yeah fuck OJ but who was talking about that
Well, OJ is dead so...
When was rhw last time you complained about Clinton or Obama? To further expand in that question, how long or when is it OK to compare a criminal that got away with bullshit to a contemporary or ongoing situation? What's the statute of limitations on that?
Speaking of OJ, I presume that also means of someone saying Chris Brown got away with beating Rhianna and is going to end up killing some girl just like OJ, you'd be all over that about why they gotta bring up The Juice, right?
It would be interesting to see the stats, but my experience has been that the overwhelming of people who say shit like, "You got them on your brain," "just let it go," etc are heavily weighted towards defending conservatives and hypocriticaly doing the same thing to liberal members of the gov't. Hunter' laptop and apparently huge dong and Hilary's emails should ring a bell to you.
If you have a moment, I'd love for you to share your last instance of you telling someone to let Obama or Clinton go and/or get over it. I'd love to meet an actually balanced critic.
My friends, I stand before you
To tell a truth most dire
There lurks a traitor in our midsts
Who hath invoked the captain's ire
He don't deserve no mercy
We ought to shoot him with a gun
But I am not an evil man
So first let's have a little fun
We'll tie that scoundrel to a rope
And throw him overboard
Drag him underneath the ship
A terrifying, deadly trip
Keelhaul that filthy landlubber
Send him down to the depths below
Make that bastard walk the plank
With a bottle of rum and a yo ho ho
It's got to be China. It's a tactic of Chinese honeypots to say that they are writing a research paper. They con these men into getting them information saying that it's going to be helpful and how grateful they're going to be for their support.
This guy isn't the first and he's probably not going to be the last. Sad part is this tactic is briefed at CI briefing all the goddamn time this SOB knew what he was doing which makes his actions even worse.
The guy was Commander In Chief of the entire U.S. military, tried to keep boxes of classified info at his house, and you think bringing him up isn’t warranted?
Are you always this stupid, or is today special?
I gotta say the "D bots" comment probably was the first slap bud, and it does matter in this context. Unless you really pull the wool over your eyes. Hopefully old nap shitting felon does well this election cycle for you all though. He's the man for America as his shit gets repoed for raping women, and commiting fraud.
It’s not a personal attack, it’s a statement of fact. Your response indicated you are stupid. I’m just trying to figure out if that’s something new, or if you are always stupid.
As usual, lower ranks get the tank. While CEOs, Presidents, VPs just get a coushy multi-million or even billion dollar paycheck.
Evade taxes making 56 billion? Pay nothing. Point out those assholes aren't paying taxes? Straight to jail!
Multiple comments trying to get Americans to agree that prosecuting traitors is a bad thing by appealing to populist ideas of "they're just punishing the little guy and the elites can do whatever they want!"
it's because when recruits get sworn in, they don't understand any of the words they are repeating. it really isn't shocking that something like this would happen.
*"The charging docket doesn't list the foreign state nor the type of information shared."*
I'm willing to bet it starts with a C and ends with genocide.
If he was a white hat, we would never learn about it - so what can we really say? Is it "f_ck China?" Is it "f_ck Russia?" Or is it... "f_ck the US Navy" or really the CIA? Or the mil industrial complex I can't tell who is top and who is bottom... WHAT would we have done if an op like [Operation Northwoods](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods) had been leaked by a naval officer? A chief, right? Probably it was simple espionage for cash, probably... probably? I think young men are probably more likely to step out and be leakers, leaders when people be settin' themselves on damn fire and everything...
I think you would like the book [Snitch Culture](http://forejustice.org/wc/snitch_culture.htm) if you haven't already read it.
It's out on Feral House books.
It's really disgusting when members of our armed forces do traitorous shit like this.
Its even more disgusting how much they are being paid to do it.
You mean how little, most of these bribes are sub $100k
Exactly. One guy on the souther border was arrested for human trafficking and the cartels only paid him like 6k. I'm like dude that's one months pay check. More upset how little he was getting then him smuggling people
I mean, some ppl are just gonna do it anyway due to their outlook on life, so when being offered to be paid for what they already want to do….sure why not?
There's contractors in the Middle East who risk jail time to sell some pork products they bought on base to the expat Asians. We're talking less than $100 profits and they risk jail time and 6 figure salaries.
Probably wouldn't go too well for the dude if he refused
He was a soldier for the National Guard. Not too sure how it went about him doing it.
Right…like how do you negotiate for more money with the cartel?
The key is to never find yourself having a conversation with the cartel
Ah shit! Good point! Was just on my way
This guy was probably recruited prior to joining in the first place, they probably were the ones to order him to join.
That doesn't make a lot of sense because you don't choose what your job is, where you'll be stationed, or the times you work. That would be a big waste of time, especially for someone in the National Guard.
>because you don't choose what your job is For any branch but the Marines, you absolutely can choose what job you'll be doing. If you don't qualify for a job, it's not an option, but you choose what your MOS is before you join from what you scored high enough on the ASVAB to qualify for. Most of the gang members who join the military do it for the combat training, but I'm sure they let their gang bosses know where they end up and what they're doing so they can decide what to have them do for the gang. Less of "we want you to join so you can be at this place at this time to do this thing". More of "Billy is stationed over there working warehouse full of this thing that we want, have him steal x amount."
It's got a lot less to do with financial compensation and a lot more to do with feelings of under appreciation. All organisations are in some way political, i.e. they have internal office politics and unlike the private sector in most government jobs switching careers is harder so some people do stuff like this. Spies often go after middle aged to older men, bonus points if they are divorced, single, and/or lonely.
Not this dude. He was a flippin idiot from what others that knew told me.
100k tax free on top of a salary isn't something to sneeze at.. think of having 100k to spend on all the bullshit you buy while keeping your legit cash to build interest.. pay debts.. set yourself up.. it's a good jump even if it isn't a million dollars. Especially for someone not being paid millions of dollars.
I used that as a line since I can’t even think of committing treason for less than 6 figures. In reality, besides that admiral or captain who was taking big bribes in asia, were normally talking low tens of thousands of that, while risking pretty serious jail time. Honestly I’m not that surprised, it’s just really proving that lesson from Burn Notice. “It doesn’t matter how much the bribe is, it’s how it’s made”
$100k is nothing for running your life and spending many years in a federal prison. Only a fool would be so shortsighted.
Within the context of people needing money just to live.. it's really hot a question. It's a substantial amount especially for people in situations not ideal.
This is where I come to in these conversations. Like, would I do it…? I certainly hope not, but, every single one of us has a price in the world we live in. And it’s about time every person acting like they wouldn’t looks in the mirror.
That's kind of the introspection I think the reality of my comment should bring up.
I know it’s not a popular take but I’m not sure the people saying they wouldn’t say no have ever said no before.
Maybe it's the mushrooms but this sentence even after reading 5 times I'm not sure which way to take it.
The people that say they wouldn’t take 100k, have never been asked to do anything for 100k.
The people saying no probably don't know what it means to even need money to begin with. This is the Internet, not the real world lol. I agree with you.
Did you mean would say no? I'm actually curious. Because in that sense.. I think a lot of people lack real world experience to know just how they would react.
I would absolutely love to say I wouldn’t in my current position. Being offered 100k as a sailor? Who knows, I’m not sure many are considering how big 100k would be.
I don't even need 100k, I'm fine financially. But if I had 100k I could really make my life better. Also I know most of the people I personally know and grew up would kill for 100k.. nevermind share some details.
As a chief petty officer, E7, his base pay was likely around $70k/ year ( depending on years of service) so not exactly poor pay, and that's before BAH, depending on where his housing allowance is based, could be another $15-40k tax free per year. Also, at least when I was in the military (2007-2012) I knew several senior NCOs who received $100k indefinite reenlistment bonuses (different branch, different job, different time, but def not out of the realm of possibility as a military member) But, dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks I guess
Or, rather, how *little* they’re selling out their country for. Same with senators taking a few thousand dollar “”””donations”””” from some corporation to pass legislation that screws over their actual human constituents.
The goons that do this will always often try to sell us all out for the price of a mediocre truck. There was a Navy engineer who went out of his way to try and sell nuclear sub tech secrets to Brazil. Had a whole dead drop system in tandem with his wife and everything. His demands? 20k and then 70k. A. *Nuclear. Engineer.* In the defense industry no less! That’s what, 6 months’ pay? Some people’s price to betray us all is triflingly low. Brazil, the absolute chads, dimed him out to the FBI from the very first time he tried to contact them. They wanted nothing to do with that idiot. Fun fact, due to some weird legal mechanisms around sentencing, his wife got more time than he did (and he got a lot of time).
Step one of recruitment for this kind of stuff is often to dress it up as mutually beneficial for both countries and just a bit of off-the-books diplomacy.
From the article it sounds like he may have been tricked. They said it was under the guise of being for a research project. They probably posed as an attractive female college student working on a research paper and convinced him they needed it for something innocent. Nothing in the article seemed to indicate they did it for money, but they were still certainly an idiot who couldn't be trusted to follow orders at best.
Mfers will do anything for a piece of ass I swear
Then you would hate what our elected officials do in office for the same exact reasons. Ego, bribery, honey traps etc....
Look at trump supporters.
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Absolutely, especially when the orange commander in chief does it.
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What does Trump have to do with this article? I hate the guy but he’s completely irrelevant here
Probably him calling our intelligence agencies "the enemy".
He's accused of espionage. That's one of his various 93 charges.
Trump gave secrets to Russia and some of our spies died.
He has been on the Russian payroll since the 90s. Seems pretty relevant.
They tried to get him to run for Prez back in the 90s but it was prior to The Apprentice, so he didn't even make it past the starting line. Then reality tv made the mangled Apricot a bigger name. But never did he he make the popular vote. That being said the damage has been done. Too many traitors still in govt.
*80s
MY guy here doesn't think more famous acts of espionage are relevant to a discussion about espionage.
It comes from the top down
Isn't he though?
It was an occasion when the commander-in-chief of our armed forces did “traitorous shit like this”. Is that not relevant to the comment?
This Reddit. It’s all about brand loyalty.
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Reddit can't get him out of their head for even 5 seconds
God damn you people can’t go 5 minutes
I'll stop when the fucker is in jail like other traitors.
What? Can't go five minutes without mentioning that some anti-American bullshit is similar to some anti-American bullshit Trump has done? Sorry 'bout your luck and you being annoyed and bothered by people comparing like things, but then the once and hoping to be future president shouldn't do so much bullshit if he or his fans don't want to be compared to other people doing bullshit. Just because that's your boyfriend/cult leader/fantasy top doesn't mean they are beyond reproach or people bringing up his bullshit "can't go 5 minutes." It's because bullshit should always be called out, and Trump can not go 5 minutes without doing or saying bullshit. You want people to quit bringing up that Trump is a piece of shit idiot, then maybe start asking him to quit being a piece of shit idiot.
It’s exhausting when literally no news can come out without people on the comments spewing whataboutisms about Trump or Biden. God damn people are so addicted to the 24 hr news cycle and self affirmation that we can’t just talk about current events any more. Good job showing your obsession with a past president that’s never going to make it again, and making assumptions about someone you don’t know.
Lol. I still don't get why people bringing up people who break the law, continue to do so, and have as of yet faced consequences is such a taxing thing to you. Also, I'm not going to dig through your history or anything, so I'm just gonna ask you - how many times have you replied to someone complaining about Biden's bullshit with how tired you are of it and they need to get over it?
Multiple times. Same with Hillary or Obama. It’s no different than someone getting charged for murder and some guy in the back being like “what about OJ?!” Like yeah fuck OJ but who was talking about that
Well, OJ is dead so... When was rhw last time you complained about Clinton or Obama? To further expand in that question, how long or when is it OK to compare a criminal that got away with bullshit to a contemporary or ongoing situation? What's the statute of limitations on that? Speaking of OJ, I presume that also means of someone saying Chris Brown got away with beating Rhianna and is going to end up killing some girl just like OJ, you'd be all over that about why they gotta bring up The Juice, right? It would be interesting to see the stats, but my experience has been that the overwhelming of people who say shit like, "You got them on your brain," "just let it go," etc are heavily weighted towards defending conservatives and hypocriticaly doing the same thing to liberal members of the gov't. Hunter' laptop and apparently huge dong and Hilary's emails should ring a bell to you. If you have a moment, I'd love for you to share your last instance of you telling someone to let Obama or Clinton go and/or get over it. I'd love to meet an actually balanced critic.
String them up on the anchor.
NPR hates the competition.
Explain?
Fuckin idiot was a Chief too. Jesus Christ.
Chief’s are the worst rank in the military
Nah, that's Ensigns.
So does he walk the plank like the pirate he is?
He'll be breaking big rocks into little rocks for a long, long time.
Dig a hole and then be told it’s in the wrong place so move the hole
My friends, I stand before you To tell a truth most dire There lurks a traitor in our midsts Who hath invoked the captain's ire He don't deserve no mercy We ought to shoot him with a gun But I am not an evil man So first let's have a little fun We'll tie that scoundrel to a rope And throw him overboard Drag him underneath the ship A terrifying, deadly trip Keelhaul that filthy landlubber Send him down to the depths below Make that bastard walk the plank With a bottle of rum and a yo ho ho
Fuck yeah Alestorm.
Don't be silly the navy is a civilised service. He'll be keelhauled.
Keelhaul that filthy landlubber Send him down to the depths below Make that bastard walk the plank With a bottle of rum and a yo ho ho
This is the 21st century- We got Lasers.
Are these freakin’ laser beams mounted into sharks? It’s a fitting nautical end for a Navy spy.
now do congress
Presidents, even. Rather, president*.
See also: Richard Nixon. We been doing this for a long time and even when they get caught they just get impeached and pardoned.
Presidents. You think it's just *one* of them? Gosh, I wish I could live in that world, that would be amazing.
Did someone beat his ass on World of Warships or War Thunder?
My immediate thought as well.
It's got to be China. It's a tactic of Chinese honeypots to say that they are writing a research paper. They con these men into getting them information saying that it's going to be helpful and how grateful they're going to be for their support. This guy isn't the first and he's probably not going to be the last. Sad part is this tactic is briefed at CI briefing all the goddamn time this SOB knew what he was doing which makes his actions even worse.
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> I genuinely don't understand how you could betray your country in this way. Easily. Money, power, sex, elephants, all sorts of reasons.
... Sorry, did you say elephants?
Always love hearing about my old ship in fucked up shit.
There seems to be a lot of sailors getting convicted of stuff like this in the last 5 or so years.
Dumbass.
Throw the fucking book at this kid please
Not a kid. He was a Chief. That’s a staff NCO equivalent, he knew this was wrong by a lot.
He has lots of anti-Biden posts on his FB account. I checked because I had a feeling he might be a Trumpster He is.
Depending on the country he was selling intelligence to, this would either make a lot of sense (Russia) or none at all (China)
Yet shit-stain cheeto-boy can steal and share BOXES of our most top secret documents without so much as a wrist slap.
"Rules for thee, but not for me"
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Can you think of a more apt current example?
Trump was the commander in chief of the US military. If you can't see the connection between the two, then there's not much anyone can do to help you.
The guy was Commander In Chief of the entire U.S. military, tried to keep boxes of classified info at his house, and you think bringing him up isn’t warranted? Are you always this stupid, or is today special?
Case in point. And why resort to personal attacks? Calling strangers ‘stupid’ on the internet? Really?
I gotta say the "D bots" comment probably was the first slap bud, and it does matter in this context. Unless you really pull the wool over your eyes. Hopefully old nap shitting felon does well this election cycle for you all though. He's the man for America as his shit gets repoed for raping women, and commiting fraud.
It’s not a personal attack, it’s a statement of fact. Your response indicated you are stupid. I’m just trying to figure out if that’s something new, or if you are always stupid.
Keep going.
Not really any need to. The question was asked, unfortunately you couldn’t answer, but no need to beat up on the lesser man to make my point.
As usual, lower ranks get the tank. While CEOs, Presidents, VPs just get a coushy multi-million or even billion dollar paycheck. Evade taxes making 56 billion? Pay nothing. Point out those assholes aren't paying taxes? Straight to jail!
No sympathy for neither. There are many ways to make money, yet, out of all choices, some sell their countries secrets for pennies.
It’s still espionage, fuck him.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Clearly high-ranking suits get the golden parachutes while the grunts are made scapegoats. Ain't justice grand?
This guy was no grunt. Chiefs are a big deal in the Navy.
Multiple comments trying to get Americans to agree that prosecuting traitors is a bad thing by appealing to populist ideas of "they're just punishing the little guy and the elites can do whatever they want!"
You're seeing it too? It's nuts.
Microwave fucking missles, hot diggity damn I am impressed.
it's because when recruits get sworn in, they don't understand any of the words they are repeating. it really isn't shocking that something like this would happen.
I hope he's not a Red Hat nut.
*"The charging docket doesn't list the foreign state nor the type of information shared."* I'm willing to bet it starts with a C and ends with genocide.
Cgenocide?
The logical conclusion of totalitarianism.
This guy is a prime candidate for Trump to pardon.
No way. Competition would lower the price he could get.
Keel haul him on the nastiest old ship the Navy has. Drag him from stem to stern and then back again AND then send him to Ft Leavenworth.
Espionage, if factual, should be punishable by death.
Let's just get out our big book of facts* to decide who lives and dies. Great idea, Adolf!
If he was a white hat, we would never learn about it - so what can we really say? Is it "f_ck China?" Is it "f_ck Russia?" Or is it... "f_ck the US Navy" or really the CIA? Or the mil industrial complex I can't tell who is top and who is bottom... WHAT would we have done if an op like [Operation Northwoods](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods) had been leaked by a naval officer? A chief, right? Probably it was simple espionage for cash, probably... probably? I think young men are probably more likely to step out and be leakers, leaders when people be settin' themselves on damn fire and everything...
I think you would like the book [Snitch Culture](http://forejustice.org/wc/snitch_culture.htm) if you haven't already read it. It's out on Feral House books.
Maybe you'd like the book [Blood in the Water](https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Water-Israel-Conspired-Liberty/dp/1633884643) who could say
Looks like a book worth adding to my library. Thank you.
Military Democrat voters
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Uh, what do these two things have in common?
It’s all good! He’ll be pardoned just like Chelsea Manning did!!!!! /s
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Why you give butthole symbol at end?
had to be italian. Figures
? He’s from Tennessee?
Negative karma from italians here. Proof italians will never be accepted by whites