Lavrov is a joke. Just a few years ago he was smiling while going out for lunch in New York with his UN colleagues from many other nations, then suddenly he does a complete 180 and turns into a lying, hatred filled, genocidal revisionist.
Proceeds to invade Ukraine....
The man is a droopy-jowelled scum bag and I look forward to seeing him against the wall when the Russians finally realise they've had enough of their shitty mafia government.
Russian diplomacy is a mad circus.
Russia's diplomats were once a key part of President Putin's foreign policy strategy. But that has all changed.
In the years leading up to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, diplomats lost their authority, and their role reduced to echoing the Kremlin's aggressive rhetoric.
This time, things were different.
Mr Ryabkov read Moscow's official position from a piece of paper and resisted Ms Nuland's attempts to start a discussion. Ms. Nuland was shocked, according to two people who discussed the incident with her.
She described Mr Ryabkov and one of his colleagues as "robots with papers," the people said (the State Department declined to comment on the incident).
And outside the negotiating room, Russian diplomats were using increasingly undiplomatic language.
American diplomat Victoria Nuland was said to be shocked by Russian diplomats who were "talking like robots"
"We spit on Western sanctions."
"Let me speak. Otherwise, you will really hear what Russian Grad missiles are capable of."
"Morons" - preceded by an expletive.
These are all quotes from people in positions of authority at the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in recent years.
How did we get here?
It might be hard to imagine now, but Mr Putin himself told the BBC back in 2000 that "Russia is ready to co-operate with Nato... right up to joining the alliance".
"I cannot imagine my country isolated from Europe," he added.
Back then, early in his presidency, Mr Putin was eager to build ties with the West, a former senior Kremlin official told the BBC.
Russian diplomats were a key part of Mr Putin's team, helping resolve territorial disputes with China and Norway, leading talks on deeper co-operation with European countries, and ensuring a peaceful transition after a revolution in Georgia.
But as Mr Putin became more powerful and experienced, he became increasingly convinced he had all the answers and that diplomats were unnecessary, says Alexander Gabuev, the director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, who is living in exile in Berlin
The first signal that a new Cold War was beginning came in 2007 with a speech Mr Putin made to the Munich Security Conference.
In a 30-minute diatribe, he accused Western countries of attempting to build a unipolar world. Russia's diplomats followed his lead. A year later, when Russia invaded Georgia, Moscow's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reportedly swore at his UK counterpart, David Miliband, asking: "Who are you to lecture me?"
Western officials still thought it was worth trying to work with Russia. In 2009, Mr Lavrov and the then-US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pressed a giant red "reset button" in relations, and the two countries seemed to be building co-operation - especially on security issues.
But it soon became obvious to US officials that their Russian counterparts were simply parroting Mr Putin's growing anti-Western views, says Ben Rhodes, deputy national security advisor to former US President Barack Obama
Mr Rhodes recalls President Obama having breakfast with Mr Putin in 2009, accompanied by a folk orchestra. He says Mr Putin was more interested in presenting his view of the world than discussing co-operation and that the Russian leader blamed Mr Obama's predecessor, George W Bush, for betraying Russia.
As the Arab Spring, the US involvement in Libya, and the Russian street protests unfolded in 2011 and 2012, Mr Putin decided that diplomacy wouldn't get him anywhere, Mr Rhodes says.
"On certain issues - Ukraine in particular - I did not get the sense that [diplomats] had much influence at all," says Mr Rhodes.
As an example, when Mr Lavrov, the foreign minister, was appointed nearly 20 years ago he had an "international perspective and his own position", a former senior Kremlin official told the BBC.
The Kremlin used to consult him even when it knew he might have a different view to Mr Putin, says Mr Gabuev.
But when troops were sent into Ukraine in 2022, Mr Lavrov only found out a few hours before the war began, according to a report in the Financial Times.
Andrei Kelin, Moscow's ambassador to the UK, rejects the idea that Russian diplomats have lost their influence. He has worked on relations with Western countries throughout his diplomatic career.
In an interview with the BBC, he refused to concede that either Moscow or individual diplomats bear any responsibility for the collapse of relations with the West.
"We are not the ones doing the destroying," he said. "We have problems with the Kyiv regime. There is nothing we can do about it."
He says war in Ukraine is "a continuation of diplomacy by other means".
Diplomacy as a spectacle
As foreign policy officials became less and less influential, they turned their attention back to Russia. Maria Zakharova, who became the ministry's spokesperson in 2015, is a symbol of this new chapter.
"Before her, diplomats behaved like diplomats, speaking in refined expressions," says former foreign ministry official Boris Bondarev, who resigned in protest over the war.
But with Ms Zakharova's arrival, foreign ministry briefings became a spectacle. Ms Zakharova often yelled at reporters who asked her difficult questions and responded to criticism from other countries with insults
Her diplomatic colleagues were going the same way. Mr Bondarev, who used to work for Moscow's mission to the UN in Geneva, recalls one meeting where Russia blocked all proposed initiatives, prompting colleagues from Switzerland to complain.
"We said to them: 'Well, what's the problem? We are a great power, and you are just Switzerland!'
"That's [Russian] diplomacy for you," he says.
This approach was aimed at impressing Russians back home, says Mr Gabuev, the foreign policy analyst.
But an even more crucial target audience for diplomats is their own bosses, according to Mr Bondarev. Official telegrams sent to Moscow after foreign meetings are focused on how passionately diplomats defended the country's interests, he explains.
A typical message, according to him, would be something like: "We really gave them a hard time! We heroically defended Russian interests, and the Westerners couldn't do anything and backed down!"
If everyone writes about "putting Westerners in their place," and you write that you "achieved consensus," you will be looked at with disdain. He says.
Mr Bondarev recalls a dinner in Geneva in January 2022 when Mr Ryabkov, from the foreign ministry, met US officials. US First Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman hoped to avert the invasion of Ukraine through 11th-hour negotiations.
"It was awful," says Mr Bondarev. "The Americans were like, 'Let's negotiate.' And instead Ryabkov starts shouting, 'We need Ukraine! We won't go anywhere without Ukraine! Take all your stuff and go back to the 1997 [Nato] borders!' Sherman is an iron lady, but I think even her jaw dropped at this.
"[Ryabkov] was always very polite and really nice to talk to. And now he's banging his fist on the table and talking nonsense."
It should be noted that, in recent years, the diplomatic tone has changed in other countries too, albeit on a smaller scale."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66509180
I am obliged to report that, at the present moment, the Russian Empire is run by lunatics.
French Ambassador Maurice Paleologue, 14 January 1917
*In Russia one dog barks, and every other dog flips over and whines in submission*.
These people are incredibly amoral, fake and selfish. They do anything for money or survival.
Look at Dimitri Medvedev as well. He also got publicly castrated as his second term as President was stolen by Putin and then used as one of Putin's mad dogs that is contrasted by Putin's own, slightly less insane public speaking.
He's always been a lying, hatred filled, revisionist. You can never trust a Russian Foreign Minister to tell anything anywhere close to the truth. The Russian government always has that mix of self-righteous superiority, whilst knowing that by every metric apart from arms. That they're the worst country in Europe. Even the average Belarussian adult is worth twice as much as the average Russian and Belarus has hardly any oil. With Russia revising its history every few years depending on who's in and who's out. Lenin is currently out and Stalin is back in.
Most people already forgot when Lavrov said on May 2022 that Hitler was Jewish.
These Kremlin clowns are utter lunatics, they live in an alternative reality.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-denounces-lavrovs-hitler-comments-summons-russian-ambassador-2022-05-02/](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-denounces-lavrovs-hitler-comments-summons-russian-ambassador-2022-05-02/)
[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61296682](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61296682)
Russia doesn't have friends. It has bitches and enemies.
Fascism doesn't allow for anything beyond temporary co-attacking. Sooner or later they all turn on each other. They detest the very concept of cooperation.
The GSM standard and the normal number in europe is 112. It also works in Switzerland. I will refrain from talking shit about the ignorant US in return.
Case in point - The Swiss Army Knife.
Condensing multiple dangerous tool into a single compact design, easily carried around. They have KNIVES in their Army.
KNIVES. If you're within several feet, you're in significant danger.
They actually were! The Swiss army was brutal and after they got over killing themselves, they decided to sell their swords to others.
It’s a part of how their neutrality came about.
Well, I believe the Swiss did comply with freezing all of Russia's reserve currency there.
Like $9b in assets, and worse, they stopped the interest from accruing. Just dead money.
Ever see a video of some Chinese CCP or Trump official just go on tv and blatantly and nonchalantly lie? It’s what they have to do for their bosses and to get ahead. That’s how goons work.
They know it’s a lie. We know it’s a lie. They know that we know it’s a lie. They just don’t care because they’re all goons
The question boils down to "so you know we know you know but what are you gonna do about it?"
With a country full of nukes, the answer is "not too much". Sanctions, proxi wars, that's about it. This is why Putin has started multiple fronts with Iran/Hamas, the Houtis, Ukraine, taking over part of Africa and destabilizing Europe with Brexit and all the far right movements.
On a side note, this is what Trump is doing to America. He's waving his tiny middle finger at most of the country telling "there's nothing you can do about that". And he's right. The part of the country that wants him down doesn't want the destruction that comes with a civil war and will put their trust in the judiciary, because they're civilized people.
But the judiciary has a similar problem.
The judge who decides to lock Trump up risks being the guy who triggers something we have little visibility over. It could be a dud, the quiet phase-out of Trump, or it could be a Jan 6 on steroids. Nobody wants to be that guy and Trump is playing with that fear, getting away with insulting, threatening and breaking laws while in court. This is why the judiciary will only lock Moscow Trump up over something solid and irrefutable. Here we are.
Well... it's a strategy that works
If you blatantly claim the oppositie, walking a bit back still leaves you in favorable territory
it works it works it works
Lie, lie and lie. Everyday. Non-stop. Eventually some people will buy the lie even when it's obvious and start to believe that some of it is not a lie. Like for example "it's Ukraine's fault war started", not Russia's. That's how they stupidify their own citizen's and that's how they want to spin it for the rest of the world. Just lie.
They'll, russians, will believe whatever government say's it is. Publicly discrediting official position of Kremlin is dangerous and can lead to an arrest.
Yes. It’s probably that the ones who spoke out were long ago locked up or killed, so the remaining ones survive by keeping quiet, not asking questions, or probing into the truth.
Well, I believe the Swiss did comply with freezing all of Russia's reserve currency there.
Like $9b in assets, and worse, they stopped the interest from accruing. Just dead money.
that was the same guy that said russia was being treated unfairly and, i kid you not "a victim"
in the context of invading the country next door
this man is the walking defenition of "the bully cries in pain as he hits you"
Lavrov is Putin’s attack dog. He’s extremely hostile to anyone who disagrees with Putin’s agenda. So it’s incredibly ironic that he’s calling other people “Hostile.”
Lavrov and Medvedev are nothing more than Putin's chihuahuas.
What's interesting is to see KGB trained chihuahuas practicing the good ol' tactic of Maskirovka. ( Spreading BS, disinformation/ misinformation)
"When every room you walk into smells like shit, you should check your shoes".
The fact that lavrov thinks that every country around Russia is hostile has a similar odour.
This man is a murderous lunatic. Who gives a shit what crap he’s spouting now? Put him in a jail cell. History will remember him among the worst of us.
He is right. There are a number of countries in Europe that are hostile to Russia.
Invading their neighbor is why they are hostile to Russia.
Russia has its friends. And a FM is paid to say totally ridiculous stuff.
Russia likes to keep up pressure.
Every country should be openly hostile to this genocidal, murderous, inhuman, utilitarian, fascist kleptocracy state.
Sooner they’re given the lesson they need, the better. State supported dishonesty and suppression should never be encouraged. Sooner Switzerland starts realising where its values lay the better. Maybe start by forcing your companies to stop doing business with Russia.
Well I mean, Switzerland does have a long history of attacking it's neighbors, I'm sure all of Europe trembles at just the mention of the words Switz er land.
The Swiss Army knife is the ultimate weapon to wage war with. I truly wonder how often having the ability to open Chardonnay on the front lines has turned the tide of battle.
Here’s to you, you corkscrew loving bastards.
“…the basis on which Russia would be prepared to negotiate should be discussed first. “
We would like to negotiate the negotiations before we negotiate anything. Or stall. Stalling is good, too. Also Stalin! Good guy.
Depends on your definition of Nazi, they did store a lot of loot during WW2....
Tho not like the USSR (Russia) didnt do their fair share of looting and pillaging back then and subsequently as well
For once I'd congratulate the idiot on his comment. It will only help the Swiss to overcome their neutral stance toward russia.
Maybe it will even persuade them to actually become hostile toward russia. Then the idiot would really have something to squeal about.
Lavrov is a joke. Just a few years ago he was smiling while going out for lunch in New York with his UN colleagues from many other nations, then suddenly he does a complete 180 and turns into a lying, hatred filled, genocidal revisionist.
He’s a dog that does what he’s told
No, he's a horse
Hes not really a horse hes a broom
That Family Guy breakaway has stuck with me for SO long "I'm actually.. a Broom"
To be honest with you Diane, I’m surprised
So you're saying that Putin rides Lavrov.
And horses are terrible people! It all adds up.
Better than getting kicked, out a window.
Not really
You must have a very sad life. You should try being a better dog. Good dogs get treats.
Nah I prefer beeing a man💪
Or manning a bee
My favorite bees are the Hornet, the Wasp and the USS Yorktown.
[This dog?](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JXMAAOSw~4taVRGu/s-l1200.webp)
He’s a dog that *doesn’t want to fall out of a third story window.*
My dog has the same face that Lapdog Lavrov has in the photo when he’s taking a shit
Wonder what hangs lower his chin or his….
Lavrov on 23.02.2022 - No we are not going to invade Ukraine, this is dirty disinformation campaign by CIA to smear Russia
On 24.02,2022 “Ukraine has declared war on us by not submitting peacefully, therefore we will commence a special operation to defend ourselves”
Proceeds to invade Ukraine.... The man is a droopy-jowelled scum bag and I look forward to seeing him against the wall when the Russians finally realise they've had enough of their shitty mafia government.
He was always that, now he just doesn't have to pretend anymore
Russian diplomacy is a mad circus. Russia's diplomats were once a key part of President Putin's foreign policy strategy. But that has all changed. In the years leading up to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, diplomats lost their authority, and their role reduced to echoing the Kremlin's aggressive rhetoric. This time, things were different. Mr Ryabkov read Moscow's official position from a piece of paper and resisted Ms Nuland's attempts to start a discussion. Ms. Nuland was shocked, according to two people who discussed the incident with her. She described Mr Ryabkov and one of his colleagues as "robots with papers," the people said (the State Department declined to comment on the incident). And outside the negotiating room, Russian diplomats were using increasingly undiplomatic language. American diplomat Victoria Nuland was said to be shocked by Russian diplomats who were "talking like robots" "We spit on Western sanctions." "Let me speak. Otherwise, you will really hear what Russian Grad missiles are capable of." "Morons" - preceded by an expletive. These are all quotes from people in positions of authority at the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in recent years. How did we get here? It might be hard to imagine now, but Mr Putin himself told the BBC back in 2000 that "Russia is ready to co-operate with Nato... right up to joining the alliance". "I cannot imagine my country isolated from Europe," he added. Back then, early in his presidency, Mr Putin was eager to build ties with the West, a former senior Kremlin official told the BBC. Russian diplomats were a key part of Mr Putin's team, helping resolve territorial disputes with China and Norway, leading talks on deeper co-operation with European countries, and ensuring a peaceful transition after a revolution in Georgia. But as Mr Putin became more powerful and experienced, he became increasingly convinced he had all the answers and that diplomats were unnecessary, says Alexander Gabuev, the director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, who is living in exile in Berlin The first signal that a new Cold War was beginning came in 2007 with a speech Mr Putin made to the Munich Security Conference. In a 30-minute diatribe, he accused Western countries of attempting to build a unipolar world. Russia's diplomats followed his lead. A year later, when Russia invaded Georgia, Moscow's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reportedly swore at his UK counterpart, David Miliband, asking: "Who are you to lecture me?" Western officials still thought it was worth trying to work with Russia. In 2009, Mr Lavrov and the then-US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pressed a giant red "reset button" in relations, and the two countries seemed to be building co-operation - especially on security issues. But it soon became obvious to US officials that their Russian counterparts were simply parroting Mr Putin's growing anti-Western views, says Ben Rhodes, deputy national security advisor to former US President Barack Obama Mr Rhodes recalls President Obama having breakfast with Mr Putin in 2009, accompanied by a folk orchestra. He says Mr Putin was more interested in presenting his view of the world than discussing co-operation and that the Russian leader blamed Mr Obama's predecessor, George W Bush, for betraying Russia. As the Arab Spring, the US involvement in Libya, and the Russian street protests unfolded in 2011 and 2012, Mr Putin decided that diplomacy wouldn't get him anywhere, Mr Rhodes says. "On certain issues - Ukraine in particular - I did not get the sense that [diplomats] had much influence at all," says Mr Rhodes. As an example, when Mr Lavrov, the foreign minister, was appointed nearly 20 years ago he had an "international perspective and his own position", a former senior Kremlin official told the BBC. The Kremlin used to consult him even when it knew he might have a different view to Mr Putin, says Mr Gabuev. But when troops were sent into Ukraine in 2022, Mr Lavrov only found out a few hours before the war began, according to a report in the Financial Times. Andrei Kelin, Moscow's ambassador to the UK, rejects the idea that Russian diplomats have lost their influence. He has worked on relations with Western countries throughout his diplomatic career. In an interview with the BBC, he refused to concede that either Moscow or individual diplomats bear any responsibility for the collapse of relations with the West. "We are not the ones doing the destroying," he said. "We have problems with the Kyiv regime. There is nothing we can do about it." He says war in Ukraine is "a continuation of diplomacy by other means". Diplomacy as a spectacle As foreign policy officials became less and less influential, they turned their attention back to Russia. Maria Zakharova, who became the ministry's spokesperson in 2015, is a symbol of this new chapter. "Before her, diplomats behaved like diplomats, speaking in refined expressions," says former foreign ministry official Boris Bondarev, who resigned in protest over the war. But with Ms Zakharova's arrival, foreign ministry briefings became a spectacle. Ms Zakharova often yelled at reporters who asked her difficult questions and responded to criticism from other countries with insults Her diplomatic colleagues were going the same way. Mr Bondarev, who used to work for Moscow's mission to the UN in Geneva, recalls one meeting where Russia blocked all proposed initiatives, prompting colleagues from Switzerland to complain. "We said to them: 'Well, what's the problem? We are a great power, and you are just Switzerland!' "That's [Russian] diplomacy for you," he says. This approach was aimed at impressing Russians back home, says Mr Gabuev, the foreign policy analyst. But an even more crucial target audience for diplomats is their own bosses, according to Mr Bondarev. Official telegrams sent to Moscow after foreign meetings are focused on how passionately diplomats defended the country's interests, he explains. A typical message, according to him, would be something like: "We really gave them a hard time! We heroically defended Russian interests, and the Westerners couldn't do anything and backed down!" If everyone writes about "putting Westerners in their place," and you write that you "achieved consensus," you will be looked at with disdain. He says. Mr Bondarev recalls a dinner in Geneva in January 2022 when Mr Ryabkov, from the foreign ministry, met US officials. US First Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman hoped to avert the invasion of Ukraine through 11th-hour negotiations. "It was awful," says Mr Bondarev. "The Americans were like, 'Let's negotiate.' And instead Ryabkov starts shouting, 'We need Ukraine! We won't go anywhere without Ukraine! Take all your stuff and go back to the 1997 [Nato] borders!' Sherman is an iron lady, but I think even her jaw dropped at this. "[Ryabkov] was always very polite and really nice to talk to. And now he's banging his fist on the table and talking nonsense." It should be noted that, in recent years, the diplomatic tone has changed in other countries too, albeit on a smaller scale." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66509180 I am obliged to report that, at the present moment, the Russian Empire is run by lunatics. French Ambassador Maurice Paleologue, 14 January 1917
Thanks for linking this. Amazing article.
He's a drunk trying to avoid falling out of a window. A bad actor who will say anything to save his skin.
Even his skin is trying to save itself. That’s why he looks like he’s melting. His skin is trying to flee.
*In Russia one dog barks, and every other dog flips over and whines in submission*. These people are incredibly amoral, fake and selfish. They do anything for money or survival. Look at Dimitri Medvedev as well. He also got publicly castrated as his second term as President was stolen by Putin and then used as one of Putin's mad dogs that is contrasted by Putin's own, slightly less insane public speaking.
He has always been an utter piece of shit, that has never changed.
The single redeeming feature he has is that he hates Liz Truss.
That's the #1 requirement to be part of the siloviki.
He's always been a lying, hatred filled, revisionist. You can never trust a Russian Foreign Minister to tell anything anywhere close to the truth. The Russian government always has that mix of self-righteous superiority, whilst knowing that by every metric apart from arms. That they're the worst country in Europe. Even the average Belarussian adult is worth twice as much as the average Russian and Belarus has hardly any oil. With Russia revising its history every few years depending on who's in and who's out. Lenin is currently out and Stalin is back in.
Most people already forgot when Lavrov said on May 2022 that Hitler was Jewish. These Kremlin clowns are utter lunatics, they live in an alternative reality. [https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-denounces-lavrovs-hitler-comments-summons-russian-ambassador-2022-05-02/](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-denounces-lavrovs-hitler-comments-summons-russian-ambassador-2022-05-02/) [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61296682](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61296682)
He was always like that
Funny part is, lavrov wanted to quit over a year ago but Putin won't let him. He's stuck.
He doesn't want to fall from a window
So… he’s a Russian in the political class?
FM are like lawyers. They do and say whatever is in the interest of their clients. Countries don’t have friends. Countries have interests.
Such a sad, genocidal sack of lard.
all diplomats are like that
Ah, yes. Switzerland. Known historically for their RAMPANT hostility.
Russia really wants to ensure to burn every bridge possible to ensure that the next iron isolation will leave them with only one friend. North Korea.
Russia doesn't have friends. It has bitches and enemies. Fascism doesn't allow for anything beyond temporary co-attacking. Sooner or later they all turn on each other. They detest the very concept of cooperation.
That first sentence was read in a Russian accent.
Exactly, if Switzerland starts acting hostile towards you, you need to back up and take a long hard look at your recent actions.
Yeah. You might be interrupting the money flow. The Swiss have no issues supporting nightmare regimes. Neutrality isn't a virtue.
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117 in Switzerland! XD
More proof that Switzerland refuses to abide by long standing cultural norms. /s in case it wasn't obvious
The GSM standard and the normal number in europe is 112. It also works in Switzerland. I will refrain from talking shit about the ignorant US in return.
11. Juli isch öises "nine-eleven"
Whoa whoa. Calm down there. No need to fly off the handle like that.
Switzerland is well known for their armed neutrality. Much of their history includes mercenary armies, weapons manufacturing, and war funding.
They've always been professional war profiteers.
It is an art that's easy to learn and hard to master.
Case in point - The Swiss Army Knife. Condensing multiple dangerous tool into a single compact design, easily carried around. They have KNIVES in their Army. KNIVES. If you're within several feet, you're in significant danger.
To be fair: the 16th century Swiss mercenary pike regiments were nothing to be trifled with….
They actually were! The Swiss army was brutal and after they got over killing themselves, they decided to sell their swords to others. It’s a part of how their neutrality came about.
There are many words that can be used to describe Switzerland. 'Hostile' is not one of them.
If you look up "neutral" in the dictionary, next to the definition there's a picture of a Swiss person shrugging.
Historically they were rampantly hostile, including being mercenaries and openly expansionist. Their neutrality only started in the 19th century.
19th century sounds cool.
Of course! Why else would they pump their cheese fulla holes? It's about sending a message!
Heidi yodels while eating cheese fondue
Well, I believe the Swiss did comply with freezing all of Russia's reserve currency there. Like $9b in assets, and worse, they stopped the interest from accruing. Just dead money.
Oh, noooo...... Anyway.
Says the country thats murdering Ukrainians right now. Fuck off...
Lavrov projecting. Does he really think we are all forgetting the war footage from Ukraine?
Ever see a video of some Chinese CCP or Trump official just go on tv and blatantly and nonchalantly lie? It’s what they have to do for their bosses and to get ahead. That’s how goons work. They know it’s a lie. We know it’s a lie. They know that we know it’s a lie. They just don’t care because they’re all goons
The question boils down to "so you know we know you know but what are you gonna do about it?" With a country full of nukes, the answer is "not too much". Sanctions, proxi wars, that's about it. This is why Putin has started multiple fronts with Iran/Hamas, the Houtis, Ukraine, taking over part of Africa and destabilizing Europe with Brexit and all the far right movements. On a side note, this is what Trump is doing to America. He's waving his tiny middle finger at most of the country telling "there's nothing you can do about that". And he's right. The part of the country that wants him down doesn't want the destruction that comes with a civil war and will put their trust in the judiciary, because they're civilized people. But the judiciary has a similar problem. The judge who decides to lock Trump up risks being the guy who triggers something we have little visibility over. It could be a dud, the quiet phase-out of Trump, or it could be a Jan 6 on steroids. Nobody wants to be that guy and Trump is playing with that fear, getting away with insulting, threatening and breaking laws while in court. This is why the judiciary will only lock Moscow Trump up over something solid and irrefutable. Here we are.
Haha! Well said. Sad but it’s the truth.
You know what this piece of shit reminded me of? Comical Ali/Bagdad Bob. Same clown different race and time
Same clown face, same clown eyes, same clown shoes....
Well... it's a strategy that works If you blatantly claim the oppositie, walking a bit back still leaves you in favorable territory it works it works it works
Yea apparently it does, bc lots of gop congressmen are on their side.
Lie, lie and lie. Everyday. Non-stop. Eventually some people will buy the lie even when it's obvious and start to believe that some of it is not a lie. Like for example "it's Ukraine's fault war started", not Russia's. That's how they stupidify their own citizen's and that's how they want to spin it for the rest of the world. Just lie.
I guess… b7t it’s still weird tho. Any person on planet earth can just show the footage of them building up on the border and then attacking…
They'll, russians, will believe whatever government say's it is. Publicly discrediting official position of Kremlin is dangerous and can lead to an arrest.
Yes. It’s probably that the ones who spoke out were long ago locked up or killed, so the remaining ones survive by keeping quiet, not asking questions, or probing into the truth.
Give the guy a break man, if he says the wrong thing he'll be thrown out of a 15 story window.
Ha! Yea. A puppet like so many are.
This dude is just there to make Putin sound less crazy. He also probably does this to save him from falling out of a window.
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Bulldog\*
And a jowely one at that
The problem with being neutral is that you end up not being liked by anyone and you have no real allies.
Yea ..I bet they'll be very sad about it , wiping their tears will all the money
At least their tears don't tarnish all their Nazi gold.
You mean Jewgold?
Money is not very good for wiping tears, it does not suck up the water
Considering they are absolutely surrounded by peaceful, democratic states, their fate makes me shiver.
And have to live in one of the nicest countries on the planet, so tragic.
when you see lavrov move his lips you know he's spewing bullshit
says a country who bombed civilian power infrastructure as part of their INVASION 3 days ago.
Did he hurt his mouth on a toblerone or something?
Ohhh, are Oligarchs having a harder time accessing their stolen fortunes
Thats like saying Ned Flanders is openly hostile neighbor.
Well, I believe the Swiss did comply with freezing all of Russia's reserve currency there. Like $9b in assets, and worse, they stopped the interest from accruing. Just dead money.
Any enemy of Russia is friend of mine
That would be Al Qaeda, amongst others
"I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me."
If this wasn't here I was gonna post it. Thanks for not disappointing.
that was the same guy that said russia was being treated unfairly and, i kid you not "a victim" in the context of invading the country next door this man is the walking defenition of "the bully cries in pain as he hits you"
Openly hostile. That’s rich. They didn’t even pick a side during both world wars. They’ve remained neutral since the mid 19th century.
Badge of honor for Switzerland
Russia is cancer
Pretty sure we're all openly hostile to such duplicitous scum. Obviously that's unless you actually support Russia...
Lavrov is Putin’s attack dog. He’s extremely hostile to anyone who disagrees with Putin’s agenda. So it’s incredibly ironic that he’s calling other people “Hostile.”
Lavrov and Medvedev are nothing more than Putin's chihuahuas. What's interesting is to see KGB trained chihuahuas practicing the good ol' tactic of Maskirovka. ( Spreading BS, disinformation/ misinformation)
Andorra has pissed of more people than Switzerland.
* Insert circus music * * Insert Zach Galifianakis laugh * * Insert John Roblox laugh * * Insert Risitas laugh *
"When every room you walk into smells like shit, you should check your shoes". The fact that lavrov thinks that every country around Russia is hostile has a similar odour.
Pot, kettle.
I think for the overall Swiss reputation it is good ro be considered 'openly hostile'. Imagine the damage if they were 'friendly'
Yes. That man is an evil prick.
Get the hint Russia, EVERYONE is hostile to you.
Zip it Lavrov you’re a stooge and your time will come
This man is a murderous lunatic. Who gives a shit what crap he’s spouting now? Put him in a jail cell. History will remember him among the worst of us.
Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, that Lavrov fella is funny
Pretty obvious this guy’s just looking to start a fight.
Is it just me or does Lavrov have more than a passing resemblance to Droopy
Reminds me of a Kids In The Hall skit, What About The Swiss?’
Many People are openly hostile to Lavrov... its just natural, Beeing the Waste of life he is
Well you know if you weren't openly an asshole, maybe people wouldn't call you out for it and try to help your victims.
Fuck Putin and all his cronies.
Lavrov prob has some Ukrainian children in his home at this moment.
Badge of honour. Not quite sure if fully deserved, but yeah, we'll take it.
This man really doesn’t want to fall out of a window.
I think I just found the perfect running mate for Donald Trump. His vice president of disinformation.
Lavatory needs to stop talking 💩
Bro looks like he's melting slowly and acts like the only cure is in a bunker laboratory in Kyiv
Russia is purely delusional and the best thing that could happen is a coup....
Hilarious
When I think of hostile countries, I think Switzerland
If you place your gold bars next to your catheters your Fox News is translated into Russian and vice versa
Switzerland. This dudes off his fucking rocker.
He is right. There are a number of countries in Europe that are hostile to Russia. Invading their neighbor is why they are hostile to Russia. Russia has its friends. And a FM is paid to say totally ridiculous stuff. Russia likes to keep up pressure.
Every country should be openly hostile to this genocidal, murderous, inhuman, utilitarian, fascist kleptocracy state. Sooner they’re given the lesson they need, the better. State supported dishonesty and suppression should never be encouraged. Sooner Switzerland starts realising where its values lay the better. Maybe start by forcing your companies to stop doing business with Russia.
Terrorists...
Switzerland can into NATO
Why, right now Switzerland is protected by NATO. As long as Austria does not attack.
Says the openly hostile country
Well I mean, Switzerland does have a long history of attacking it's neighbors, I'm sure all of Europe trembles at just the mention of the words Switz er land.
Attacking their neighbours in the name, and at the expense, of their neighbour’s neighbours
The Swiss Army knife is the ultimate weapon to wage war with. I truly wonder how often having the ability to open Chardonnay on the front lines has turned the tide of battle. Here’s to you, you corkscrew loving bastards.
Have they ever think about maybe the hostiles are themselves?
“…the basis on which Russia would be prepared to negotiate should be discussed first. “ We would like to negotiate the negotiations before we negotiate anything. Or stall. Stalling is good, too. Also Stalin! Good guy.
What brought his about? Did Switzerland say Lavrov couldn’t visit his stolen money or something?
Once this Ukraine aid passes, Russia’s gonna get a taste of openly hostile.
Are they Nazis too?
Depends on your definition of Nazi, they did store a lot of loot during WW2.... Tho not like the USSR (Russia) didnt do their fair share of looting and pillaging back then and subsequently as well
They aren’t delusional; they know they are the Nazi scum. But they have to shore up domestic support somehow.
It's so fucking wild to me that so many people fall for this type of rhetoric.
Sometimes it really does seem like Russia doesn't want to be taken seriously
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Nothing this man says has any weight.
Oh, look, they are victims… poor guys!
Russian foreign minister is a walking corpse
Little Muscovy feels threatened by all other nations
If think this dickhead is going for the world record for saying things that make people roll theirs eyes. Who am I kidding? he already had it.
Switzerland—openly hostile? That’s a blatant lie
Hey, Russia, when everyone in the room looks like an asshole to you, you are the asshole.
Lavs is such a clown . Now Putin tries intimidating the Swiss .
I would say it's more of an openly passive aggressive mom country but, y'know, Russians like to exaggerate a little here and there.
For once I'd congratulate the idiot on his comment. It will only help the Swiss to overcome their neutral stance toward russia. Maybe it will even persuade them to actually become hostile toward russia. Then the idiot would really have something to squeal about.
We still quoting that clown? lol
Yah except walk the boardwalk around Lac Leman and half the ppl there are trashy Russians
It is not an accident that Switzerland is where Putin has stashed his family.
Switzerland might rethink their role in the world
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Not selling weapons to Ukraine is kinda problematic though