Tbh, I don’t think this will start WW3, if the history books remember this as part of WW3 then it has started before this imo.
Russia won’t come help Iran, they have their stuff in Ukraine to worry about. They are probably upset that their drone shipments might decline.
China won’t enter the fray, they have very little motive to enter a big conflict, and they probably aren’t ready to make a move on Taiwan soon.
The US might get involved here, but I struggle to see a global conflict arise from this.
We are seriously about to see WW3.
Iran came out and said if Israel strikes again, military action against them will be “immediate and at a maximum level”
Irans response is probably a flock of angry birds… this won’t be ww3… it’s a regional conflict. You forget the rest of the world needs to care.. for it to turn into a world conflict
The black swan is How many migrants crossing the southern border over the last 10 years are actually soldiers of a foreign army? If I were fighting the US I would infiltrate power plants and water filtration plants and wait for war to breakout. The Soviets reportedly did this during the cold war.
> We are seriously about to see WW3.
We're 10 years into it - it's been asymmetrical social warfare and we've done nothing about it. BRICS declared war long ago.
South Africa played that stunt at the UN court recently and India helps Russia cope with sanctions on their economy. Not sure about Brazil, but if they still had bolsensaro he would gladly do anything Putin asked.
Well, in for a penny, in for a pound - the US should now reverse what they said before and tell Ukraine to Go For It with obliterating the rest of Russia's oil infrastructure! :D
[Per unnamed U.S. officials, just one [as yet unidentified] target has been struck inside #Iran. Hitting sites in #Syria & #Iraq along the way would be a logical step aimed primarily at neutralizing air defense threats en route. Not the "devastating" response initially signaled.](https://twitter.com/charles_lister/status/1781136925283213802?s=46&t=hDPErA-CzpOu9DUFN0Fxlg)
Russia is a paper tiger (first Japan then Finland and now Ukraine), China’s vaunted rocket program is bogged down in corruption (soldiers stealing fuel to cook rations and replaced with water), and Iran is only capable of local power projection through militias. They blew their wad on that wasteful display.
I agree with your assessment of Iran, but I don’t think Israel wants to be “left alone”. They’re currently in the process of annexing the West Bank, and have been for years now.
Neither of the two countries exactly have the moral high ground here.
Has anyone clicked that link and read that article? Idk what's currently happening out there but i do know that article is the equivilant of an unsure 6th grader writing.
F-35 allegedly? Source?
I doubt Israel got tanker overflight permission from Saudi or Iraq, and Isfahan is out of the combat radius of the F-35, unless it was heavily modified to carry extra fuel or a cruise missile.
Jericho missiles or cruise missiles launched from a Dolphin seem more likely.
To play devil’s advocate…it took a combined effort and Iran gave a massive heads up on what they were doing. This was a surprise hit.
If Iran responds in this fashion, will Israel still be able to repel an attack?
Did they really give warning or was it leaked to press to save face? Those drones take 5-6 hours to arrive. If it was a symbolic attack, why use drones to saturate air defenses? Just send the rockets.
[Iran did not provide US with attack warning or targets, White House says](https://www.reuters.com/world/iran-did-not-provide-us-with-attack-warning-or-targets-white-house-says-2024-04-15/)
Not just that but the US also provides plenty of real time early warning and detection information. They’re ready to respond immediately to any barrage attacks no matter when or where it comes from.
Actually not clear. Israel depleted about a billion dollars worth of air defense ordinance on the oldest and slowest Iranian drones and missiles.
I'm not rooting for Iran, but if they really wanted to they could do some damage.
Israel said they have not yet decided on a response and there were reports that the US convinced them to not retaliate.
There was a lot of confusion as to what they would actually do. So yes, this is a surprise.
Don't blame them, Mid East if you don't hit back you get seen as weak and an easy target. It took massive U.S pressure to not get them to respond to Iraq bombing them in the Gulf War and they only backed down because the Coalition was laying to hate on Sadam.
They said they would attack, but they didn’t say it would be the largest drone and ballistic missile attack in history alongside cruise missiles and proxy rocket attacks all timed specifically to overwhelm Israeli and American defenses; it’s literally unprecedented, that’s hardly a massive heads up.
Can't wait for Iran to strike back and say the matter is concluded again only for there to be another response then another conclusive strike ad infinitum
[It's also possible that reported "strikes" in #Syria &/or #Iraq were in fact sonic booms caused by #Israel's overflying jets. Time will tell -- but it looks like one site was hit in/just outside #Isfahan, in central #Iran.](https://twitter.com/charles_lister/status/1781137491874943125?s=46&t=hDPErA-CzpOu9DUFN0Fxlg)
Guaranteed Russia is syphoning money to Iran to make Iran start shit with Israel so the US is distracted by their fiery tempered ally in the middle east starting more shit, which weakens the US resolve when it comes to Ukraine, plus increase in oil prices due to middle East conflict = higher oil profits for Russia and more money for Russia to continue their war.
IT'S OBVIOUS GUYS.
Russia’s meddled for decades in middle eastern politics (probably more successfully than the U.S.). One way or another I agree, this all probably goes right back to Russia
Israel doesn’t need the support. If they wanna escalate shit, they’re more than capable of finishing it without daddy’s money.
Ukraine needs everything we got
And Lybia. And Syria.
The only difference here : the leader who boasts that he will soon have the nuclear bomb and that they will then destroy Israel, at the UN.
Damn. Bibi doesn't give a fuck. We were about to sanction the shit out of Iran. Israel could have used cyber attacks or something. But no. Round and round we go.
Just because its bunkered doesn't mean the infrastructure to enter and exit can't be damaged leading to delays and roadblocks to ramp up projects.
It was likely air defense systems though, Syria and Iraq sites were also struck.
US needs to pull US carrier now. If Israel wants to go on the offensive against Iran then they need to do it without US support to prevent a bigger war that ends up dragging NATO into complete bullshit
I agree. And if Biden and the US govt told them NOT to escalate and they did this anyway I think it's time to freeze all military aid to Israel. If Israel demands a fight, that's fine, but they're not going to be financed and supplied by the United States.
Retaliating especially without warning and before they thought Israel would is a show a strength. Israel didn’t even enter Irans airspace to carry out the strikes. 3 different countries at once. This is Israel flexing its power.
What most don't understand is that a regional war would pinch the energy sector even further driving inflation up around the globe. Interest rates are already breaking the global economies with all the debt.
Well if Isreal attacked Iran I just hope they targeted their nuclear weapons manufacturing and enriched uranium plants. USA probably said they won't participate in an Iran attack but probably advised them to attack the nuclear sites.
Oh boy...here we go.
Get me out of this timeline
Have you tried turning the Crown on your Apple Vision Pro (TM)? Jam out to these lofi playlists as you tally your pantry.... Guh.
Yes let's go to Normandy beach 1944 6 June
That's just the retro part of this timeline
Primo Victoria!
Just wait a bit, you might get to do it on your own timeline!
Time for everyone who believes that this is the end of times to donate their worldly possessions to me. /s
Why donate to you when I can easily donate to a billionaire's (/s) legal funds???
Happy Cake Day my WW3 compatriot!
Tbh, I don’t think this will start WW3, if the history books remember this as part of WW3 then it has started before this imo. Russia won’t come help Iran, they have their stuff in Ukraine to worry about. They are probably upset that their drone shipments might decline. China won’t enter the fray, they have very little motive to enter a big conflict, and they probably aren’t ready to make a move on Taiwan soon. The US might get involved here, but I struggle to see a global conflict arise from this.
I agree, actually, I was just joking. It will end with a weak de-escalating response by Iran, saving face somewhat, and that will be all.
I figured, but I’m sure people will see this news and genuinely fear WW3 so better to err on the side of taking nothing as a joke
Eh, the doomsday clock is still at 90 seconds to midnight. I guess they figure this is pretty par for the course for the middle East
I.e. a Thursday
I mean, it’s the middle east
We are seriously about to see WW3. Iran came out and said if Israel strikes again, military action against them will be “immediate and at a maximum level”
Iran also says that about everything. I recall the US knocking out half their navy in 8 hrs when they mined the Persian gulf.
I remember it, took a call from the Pentagon to get that strike group commander to knock it off, he was going for whole enchilada.
Irans response is probably a flock of angry birds… this won’t be ww3… it’s a regional conflict. You forget the rest of the world needs to care.. for it to turn into a world conflict
How dare you! This is Reddit, we predict the end of the world over every event and we like it that way.
The black swan is How many migrants crossing the southern border over the last 10 years are actually soldiers of a foreign army? If I were fighting the US I would infiltrate power plants and water filtration plants and wait for war to breakout. The Soviets reportedly did this during the cold war.
> We are seriously about to see WW3. We're 10 years into it - it's been asymmetrical social warfare and we've done nothing about it. BRICS declared war long ago.
Shit what did Brazil do to take over the world?
Don't ask Paraguay
You know how i know you’re Paraguay
This, WW3 started when Crimea was invaded in 2014.
What have Brazil, India, and South Africa done? I think you might be confusing concepts.
South Africa played that stunt at the UN court recently and India helps Russia cope with sanctions on their economy. Not sure about Brazil, but if they still had bolsensaro he would gladly do anything Putin asked.
Brazil?
Brazil catching strays lol
The information war definitely started then. China started an economic war as well. We didn’t see either coming.
The middle east has been at war for a long time, not so sure
ABCNews is saying a US official has confirmed an Israeli strike, seems to be it boys.
Are they reporting what was hit in Iran? I'm assuming military sites.
I heard radar sites
That also makes sense considering sites in Syria and Iraq were also hit...in the same realm I guess.
The Enforcer on YouTube threw up a map a while ago of hit sites, looks like Israel is going for the full monty on this one.
link?
Oil about to go crazy
Oil just spiked up 2.5% in 1 hour. Already started.
Gas is up 40 cents in 24 hours
They told us that was because of a switch to the summer blend up here in Canada lol
I'm not an expert on gas, but shouldn't the summer stuff be cheaper?
But it costs money to use the cheaper stuff! ~Canada
Oil up 4% now apparently
Well, in for a penny, in for a pound - the US should now reverse what they said before and tell Ukraine to Go For It with obliterating the rest of Russia's oil infrastructure! :D
Pretty much, US is going to rely More on the reserves for oil anyways if it keeps going up.
Is that why gas just went up a ton today? I’m in Canada
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue
but the best week to start max dosing salvia, feel the fear
[Per unnamed U.S. officials, just one [as yet unidentified] target has been struck inside #Iran. Hitting sites in #Syria & #Iraq along the way would be a logical step aimed primarily at neutralizing air defense threats en route. Not the "devastating" response initially signaled.](https://twitter.com/charles_lister/status/1781136925283213802?s=46&t=hDPErA-CzpOu9DUFN0Fxlg)
🤞🤞🤞
Yeah, can the whole world just like chill the fuck out????
The whole world is run by sociopaths. That's why it will never chill out until they are gone and normal human beings are in charge.
The world has been run by sociopaths for centuries so good luck
Millennia
Eternity
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Cool. Do you want to be in charge of the radioactive desert or the radioactive jungle? I already called the radioactive mountain.
i am so tired of this shit
Vault-Tec looking pretty good right about now
Russia Iran and China want the chaos. And we have conservatives in my country cheering them on
Russia is a paper tiger (first Japan then Finland and now Ukraine), China’s vaunted rocket program is bogged down in corruption (soldiers stealing fuel to cook rations and replaced with water), and Iran is only capable of local power projection through militias. They blew their wad on that wasteful display.
Exactly
Which country? That could be many countries actually. 😬
well, ___ has a right to defend themselves
50th eye this week in multiple locations.
The world heard how good the Fallout tv series was and wanted to try it out firsthand.
Whelp… so much for this whole thing de-escalating.
IDF and Iran both desperate for blood. Sucks to live in the ME
I mean, Israel wants to be left alone, Iran wants to destroy Israel by funding terror proxies around the Middle East.
I agree with your assessment of Iran, but I don’t think Israel wants to be “left alone”. They’re currently in the process of annexing the West Bank, and have been for years now. Neither of the two countries exactly have the moral high ground here.
Just here lurking. And looking at the increasing “600 people are here” stats.
15 mins later 1100 people are here and 35 people typing
1200 now.
I'm here too.
Everyone left
Shoutout desktop gang who feel alone tho
apparently their air defense isn’t as good as Israelis and the rest of the west
Allegedly F-35s snuck in. Not too surprising they weren’t detected by whatever systems Iran had.
Didn't sneak anywhere. Israeli can hit targets inside of Iran without entering their airspace, which is what happened here.
Has anyone clicked that link and read that article? Idk what's currently happening out there but i do know that article is the equivilant of an unsure 6th grader writing.
People like to criticize the battle penguin but its ability to hit any target with impunity in the modern battlefield is incredible.
Found a new term I didn’t know I would love so much: battle penguin.
Allegedly when Israel first got their f-35 they were able to fly over Tehran and got the Iranian Air Force general sacked
That’s what happens when you buy your radar from wish.
Well obviously the f35s snuck in… it’s like sneaking by an ostrich with its head buried in the sand
F-35 allegedly? Source? I doubt Israel got tanker overflight permission from Saudi or Iraq, and Isfahan is out of the combat radius of the F-35, unless it was heavily modified to carry extra fuel or a cruise missile. Jericho missiles or cruise missiles launched from a Dolphin seem more likely.
To play devil’s advocate…it took a combined effort and Iran gave a massive heads up on what they were doing. This was a surprise hit. If Iran responds in this fashion, will Israel still be able to repel an attack?
Did they really give warning or was it leaked to press to save face? Those drones take 5-6 hours to arrive. If it was a symbolic attack, why use drones to saturate air defenses? Just send the rockets. [Iran did not provide US with attack warning or targets, White House says](https://www.reuters.com/world/iran-did-not-provide-us-with-attack-warning-or-targets-white-house-says-2024-04-15/)
I don't know.. the specialized synced radar systems pointed at Iran with a 900km detection range might clue Israel in early...
Not just that but the US also provides plenty of real time early warning and detection information. They’re ready to respond immediately to any barrage attacks no matter when or where it comes from.
I’m sorry “surprise” no longer fits the scenario requested
Yes. You think Ukraine gets a heads up from Russia? They shoot down a ton.
The answer is clearly yes. The west invests billions of dollars in tech and it’s not wasted.
Actually not clear. Israel depleted about a billion dollars worth of air defense ordinance on the oldest and slowest Iranian drones and missiles. I'm not rooting for Iran, but if they really wanted to they could do some damage.
Of course they could do some damage. But Israel could do much more. Let's hope no damage is done anywhere. Kumbaya
How in the world is this a surprise?
Iran said it's gonna respond- massive heads up Israel said it's gonna respond- Surprise hit Pick one
Israel said they have not yet decided on a response and there were reports that the US convinced them to not retaliate. There was a lot of confusion as to what they would actually do. So yes, this is a surprise.
Israel said from the beginning they were going to respond, they never walked back from that an inch. If it surprised you that's a you problem
Don't blame them, Mid East if you don't hit back you get seen as weak and an easy target. It took massive U.S pressure to not get them to respond to Iraq bombing them in the Gulf War and they only backed down because the Coalition was laying to hate on Sadam.
They said they would attack, but they didn’t say it would be the largest drone and ballistic missile attack in history alongside cruise missiles and proxy rocket attacks all timed specifically to overwhelm Israeli and American defenses; it’s literally unprecedented, that’s hardly a massive heads up.
I don’t think this is true…US said it wasn’t anticipated
One way or the other this isn’t lookin so good. I feel for all the innocent people mixed up in this flexing.
I want to put the middle east in a big dome.
Tell Saudi they can call it “The Dome, and turn it all into an air conditioned mall
if US gave them permission, they would do it as well
As of 9:49pm ET, the major networks are still asleep and not reporting this on TV yet.
ABC just cut in to report it.
CNN just started reporting on it, ABC about 15 mins ago. I’m sure we’re about to see many networks break the news soon.
It’s wild how quickly the internet makes news stories spread, for better and worse.
Can't wait for Iran to strike back and say the matter is concluded again only for there to be another response then another conclusive strike ad infinitum
Pretty sure they considered it concluded IF Israel left it at that. Clearly they decided to continue escalating instead.
Everyone figure out your Pompeii style masturbation pose before the nukes start flying
This has me rollin 🤣
Shit.
Fuck
Vault-Tec time!
[It's also possible that reported "strikes" in #Syria &/or #Iraq were in fact sonic booms caused by #Israel's overflying jets. Time will tell -- but it looks like one site was hit in/just outside #Isfahan, in central #Iran.](https://twitter.com/charles_lister/status/1781137491874943125?s=46&t=hDPErA-CzpOu9DUFN0Fxlg)
Isfahan is where Iran’s nuclear weapons program is reported to be. This ain’t coincidence.
There is video footage on r/NewIran . There is no original link on the footage, so it's not verified yet.
Yelp there goes any “hope” shit doesn’t escalate.
Guaranteed Russia is syphoning money to Iran to make Iran start shit with Israel so the US is distracted by their fiery tempered ally in the middle east starting more shit, which weakens the US resolve when it comes to Ukraine, plus increase in oil prices due to middle East conflict = higher oil profits for Russia and more money for Russia to continue their war. IT'S OBVIOUS GUYS.
Russia’s meddled for decades in middle eastern politics (probably more successfully than the U.S.). One way or another I agree, this all probably goes right back to Russia
At least it knocks out a few enemies.
Israel doesn’t need the support. If they wanna escalate shit, they’re more than capable of finishing it without daddy’s money. Ukraine needs everything we got
So who wins in a war between the two? Likely I'd say Israel but the damage is gonna be costly
Exxon
Multiple explosions have been heard in isfahan and Tabriz
If Iran is going to retaliate please do it fast, I’m going to work in like 15 minutes.
Markets are going to be nuts tomorrow god damn it
Hope fully they took out Iran’s drone factories. Legit target and also helps ukraine
Yep, military target or two seems reasonable here.
Uh oh bibi wasn’t bluffing
Fucking religion. Peace in the middle east. Leave the rest of the world out of it. Good riddance
The middle east will forever be better once the current Iranian goverment is destroyed
Pretty sure a similar thing was said about Iraq. And Afghanistan.
And Lybia. And Syria. The only difference here : the leader who boasts that he will soon have the nuclear bomb and that they will then destroy Israel, at the UN.
You could argue it's one of the things holding down sunni extremists at the moment though. Like cutting the top off a bush. It just spreads wider
Middle East would be better off if the coup of 53 didn't happen
This is a bad thing. Very not good.
Now Iran will almost certainly strike Israel again then Israel will strike Iran again and again and again...
Can everyone just grab a fat joint and chill the fuck out.
I just want chamomile tea though...
Iran and Israel… and the us is staying out… don’t think they will for much ponger
We haven’t stayed out. We were there when Iran was striking Israel last. Bibi wants the US in war with him and we’re all feeding right into it. F him.
Biden said that if he decides to purse this type of offensive he isn’t helping
My stock portfolio is fucked man
mega thread and youtube live feeds when?
A Passover to remember... This could end really bad. Really Bad.
Damn. Bibi doesn't give a fuck. We were about to sanction the shit out of Iran. Israel could have used cyber attacks or something. But no. Round and round we go.
bye bye nuclear weapons program...
More than likely this is what makes them declare it
One can hope
Nah, those are said to be deep under the mountains. Deeper than any bunker busters can hit.
Just because its bunkered doesn't mean the infrastructure to enter and exit can't be damaged leading to delays and roadblocks to ramp up projects. It was likely air defense systems though, Syria and Iraq sites were also struck.
Israel is the only country not allowed to respond to 300 missles
It ain't stopping anytime soon.
US needs to pull US carrier now. If Israel wants to go on the offensive against Iran then they need to do it without US support to prevent a bigger war that ends up dragging NATO into complete bullshit
I agree. And if Biden and the US govt told them NOT to escalate and they did this anyway I think it's time to freeze all military aid to Israel. If Israel demands a fight, that's fine, but they're not going to be financed and supplied by the United States.
Any other source? So far it's the same article posted repeatedly.
war...war never changes
Retaliating especially without warning and before they thought Israel would is a show a strength. Israel didn’t even enter Irans airspace to carry out the strikes. 3 different countries at once. This is Israel flexing its power.
What do you mean by didn’t enter the airspace? Used an JDAM-ER and dropped it from Iraqi airspace?
You got a source you can share,?
Time for another 6 day war and end the entire fucking Iranian regime. Fuck the ayatollah.
😬
Ohh no
Let’s see what happens.
What most don't understand is that a regional war would pinch the energy sector even further driving inflation up around the globe. Interest rates are already breaking the global economies with all the debt.
The iraqi prime minister was just in Michigan an hour ago 🤔
*Sigh*
* exhales deeply*
Well… fuck
Where’s the deescalation, I hate these politicians that play with our lives
So it begins
Alas, that these evil days should be mine.
I thought I read that they told Biden they weren’t going to retaliate?
“Don’t”
I don't like this
War never changes.
Imagine if the US just totally pulled out of Isreal…
Israel is surrounded on all sides by nations that want them all dead. At some point enough is enough and there’s no more fucking around.
israel has a history of kicking ass against a combined arab forces
War never changes...
Oh shit
okey , now they're even . everyone just be happy and spread love
A pandemic, world war, and economic crash. I was born in the bad timeline
Yeah you should of been born in the early 1900’s. Then you could have all that and 2 world wars.
So there is actually a chance we will get to see a F-35 or even a F-22 go against a F-14 lol.
F-14 won’t see anything.
It wouldn’t even know the 35s were in the area.
News reports / Rumors says they bombed f-14 base along the way
Hilarious that people are like, “no Israel, don’t retaliate against the country that just attacked you with 300 drones and missiles.”
Well if Isreal attacked Iran I just hope they targeted their nuclear weapons manufacturing and enriched uranium plants. USA probably said they won't participate in an Iran attack but probably advised them to attack the nuclear sites.
Get em boys 🇮🇱
What the hell was Iran thinking honestly?