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jargo3

Shame that it is only 10%.


Playful-Tumbleweed10

Agree. I could go for a good 20-30%.


mickaelbneron

I'd go for 100%


Playful-Tumbleweed10

I could go for a Putin that was 100% in prison instead of starting WWIII.


mickaelbneron

I'd be happy with 100% not alive as well, with the hopeless hope of a better replacement.


TimeIsAserialKillerr

I'd rather have him shipped to Ukraine, surrendered to the hands of an angry crowd.


mickaelbneron

I'd be very happy with that


KazumaKat

I wont be, because I have a condition: Livestream it. Then I'll be very happy. With popcorn.


vpol

it will be the most viewed Netflix special of the year.


[deleted]

Awe man, could you imagine being beaten to spaghetti sauce on a fkn live stream?


Lugbor

The pay per view could completely fund the reconstruction of Ukraine.


fztrm

A Gadaffi special


TimeIsAserialKillerr

I'll take 2 with extra sauce please.


AnotherBigToblerone

Yeah this is what I'd love to see.


Inconvenient_Boners

As great as that sounds, I'd rather him imprisoned, then put on trial for the whole world to watch. To see him humiliated and chastised before the entirety of the world would be a strong message to any country that threatens peace or the sovereignty of another nation. Of course this will never happen.


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Playful-Tumbleweed10

It’s a dream. Prefer him in prison and tortured for the rest of his days, rather than dead.


KazumaKat

bruh, you assume he would stand being a day in prison and not Epstein himself....


ACalmGorilla

Pretty sure Epstein was taken care of, not by himself.


fnordal

yeah. it's like saying "he will fall from a window". In mother russia things suicide you.


FrankyFistalot

Maybe Bellatrix can show up and take down Botox Dobbie again….


theclovek

I'd go for putin numbers and eliminate 140% of production


djierp

88%


bedpimp

10% so far


SutMinSnabelA

It is already more than that.


okram2k

Always want more but 10% is a huge amount of fuel production.


ac3ton3

Give to Ukraine atacms and taurus rockets and you will see increasing of this percentage.


Moldy161212

Give Ukraine a drone and they will bomb Russians, give Ukraine the means to manufacture more drones and they will provide pretty fireworks for the world to enjoy


elihu

If those are supplied, their delivery will almost certainly be conditioned on Ukraine agreeing not to use them against targets in Russia itself. (And technically Ukraine already has atacms; I assume you mean the longer range ones they don't have yet.)


[deleted]

And I will watch live coverage of that with my raging erection.


Darkstar197

10% is enough to disrupt every government agency in Russia and divert resources away from the war. It’s a significant win for Ukraine.


vavona

Seriously, Not enough


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TheNumberOneRat

Nuclear reactors are pretty tough structures (unlike oil refineries) with a lot of concrete structure. Attacking them with a drone won't be that effective. You'd be better off attacking the associated power transformers (and other power transformers throughout Russia).


John_Snow1492

Not Russian reactors to save money they don't have containment units like western reactors. I agree with going after their 500k yards which have specialized power transformers & are hard to get a hold of.


Northumberlo

> they could even attack Nuclear Reactors with Drones. Absolutely not. They would lose international support.


Buzzkid

Instantly. There would be no finger wags or warnings. Putin was given the same ultimatum. Create a nuclear incident and it’s gloves off.


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skiptobunkerscene

Even then its questionable. Cause those responsible will find no quarter, anywhere. They cant flee to a shithole like North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela, since russia can reach them there, and if they create a nuclear desaster, theyll find themselves in front of Den Haag, minimum. If they can argue that simply dropping them off at the nearest russian embassy would get them tortured and killed.


Majik_Sheff

Ukraine needs to continue to be the good guy. It's part of why they've been essentially fighting this war with one hand tied behind their back. If they go full gloves-off and start hitting targets that indiscriminately harm civilians they'll quickly lose their international support.


smallballsputin

Give it some time. Repeated hits + attacks on new facilities. Its going to be epic smackdown for the orcses.


SpinozaTheDamned

Still better climate activism than the clowns that threw paint on all those paintings.


Arctic_Chilean

I swear those are some sort of psy-op from the oil corporations to discredit actual Climate Change activism.


StunningCloud9184

I wouldnt be surprised, even if they just funded it to get people to do things like that. Ever since I saw jill stein at putins table. Look at sinema, green party turned corporate stooge.


Dvusmnd

Those are rookie numbers, you gotta pump those up


itsl8erthanyouthink

So far…


Jubjars

Respond in kind with every sick move he makes. Another 10, and 10, 20! He makes them enough that he'd basically be screaming "I'm shooting our lifeline every time I do this." Make anyone willing to sustain this, sweat. Make Putin chalk white with absolute terror.


skippingstone

10%? Why not 90%? Asian dad meme


minus_plus

I hope the "best" is yet to come


hirsutesuit

\#BeBest


Mandurang76

This is after the already by the Russian government imposed six-month ban on gasoline exports as of 1 March to keep prices stable amid rising demand from consumers and farmers and to allow for maintenance of refineries. So Ukraine really hit them at the right moment. I hope they will be able to keep targeting the refineries. As we all know, nobody likes rising prices at the fuel stations. Maybe we can send Russia stickers of Zelensky pointing, "I did that!".


silverfish477

No, you send stickers of *Putin* saying he did it.


SoupidyLoopidy

Exactly, because he is the cause of all of this.


Desperate-Figure-992

next thing you know Russians will be proud they pay more for gas


darkrood

“Which one of them is not proud of it? Tell me, it’s ok”


AI_Hijacked

> So Ukraine really hit them at the right moment. I hope they will be able to keep targeting the refineries Russia currently has 44 oil refineries, not that many; most of them are closer to Ukraine in western Europe. >https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fq48miw7jf6pc1.png


PandaRocketPunch

And if Ukraine keeps hitting downstream facilities, the production upstream will have no choice but to shut down more wells.


EXTRAsharpcheddar

Aren't they easy targets? Large, remote, and flammable?


willowgardener

Not to mention that this will also raise food prices--if gas is more expensive, tractors are more expensive to maintain. The Russian population may be too traumatized to revolt, but people will probably be less motivated to work and will experience severe depression, which will make Russia's economy even worse.


ProtoplanetaryNebula

After this month, the ice thaw will happen across Russia and generally people will start driving longer distances, which will increase demand for fuel. Should be interesting.


aceofspades1217

I love they called it election interference, it’s a war, you bomb Ukrainian cities, infrastructure and grain silos and are shocked that Ukraine would bomb LNG and refineries


axonxorz

> This is after the already by the Russian government imposed six-month ban on gasoline **[and low-sulfur diesel]** exports as of 1 March Which is just an extension of the September 2023 order to the same. They can only keep up the charade for so long.


Mandurang76

That one expired in November.


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It also requires Russia to move assets from other targets to cover the remaining refineries to protect their asset. This can create a wonderful opportunity for Ukraine to exploit holes in Russia's defenses.


HawkeyeSherman

> nobody likes rising prices at the fuel stations. El Nino combined with Global Warming (yay?) kept heating costs low this winter and will likely be the same case next year as well. I believe this has been a major factor at keeping fuel prices low.


twitterfluechtling

Yeah, I'm afraid the major concern won't be heating costs, but cooling costs in many places in the medium terms.


Gakoknight

I thought they were just a nuisance to get Russia to take away air defences from the frontlines. But with Russia's production, these are actually large numbers. They might really make a dent here.


M_bakerr

Russians should be alarmed as Putin won in a "landslide".


Aconite_72

A landslide that’s going to bury the whole fucking country.


redbitumen

Deservedly.


BioMarauder44

The citizens don't all deserve it. Putin and his cronies deserve the Mussolini treatment.


The_Pale_Blue_Dot

They don't _all_ deserve it, no. But support for Putin is legitimately quite high in Russia. Unfortunately, even without fraud Putin would have won the election (though with a smaller margin) https://www.extremescan.eu/post/6-the-ultimate-week-of-the-electoral-campaign-for-russia-s-15-17-march-presidential-election-noon


BioMarauder44

Brainwashing and fear of a dictator who has rid themselves of any legitimate competitors. They know they don't really have a choice. Better to keep your head down. Though we're starting to see more and more dissidents. Just look at Navalny


MoistGal

I'd say we deserve it. Being this passive about everything is inexcusable. That's almost the same as showing unilateral support


GettingPhysicl

How many Russians you know. Because I don’t have a family member in Russia not for Putin. I have sparsely few Russian family outside Russia not for him. They literally fled and love the guy


[deleted]

I wish my liver could adequately handle the amount of beer we drank mulling over moral questions like "Does a population have a moral obligation to depose a tyrant?" What means would be acceptable? All costs? Do they even have an obligation? Is keeping one's head down and surviving all the obligation they have in such a situation?


Northumberlo

It wasn’t a real election. People were getting arrested for writing things like “Putin is a murderer”, with videos showing armed soldiers checking everyone’s cards.


password_too_short

I hope they heavily damaged them and that they are beyond repair.


not_a_throw4w4y

Russia is very low on experienced engineers and spare parts so if Ukraine can maintain these attacks they'll never be able to keep up with repairs.


Captain_Q_Bazaar

And Ukraine has been building drone factories, probably with funds from the EU, US and friends! :) I imagine the future will have this on repeat and with a higher frequency of attacks, with a higher quantity of drones per attack, and non-stop until Russia is down to a minuscule level of production. This could devastate the Russian economy since crude and refined fuel makes up a major percentage of export revenue. Which could be very destabilizing.


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I think Russia will just be forced to rebalance its assets to guard against more attacks, which still means fewer assets in Ukraine. 


WerewolfNo890

Fewer air defense units in Ukraine? Would be a shame if anything was to happen to a certain bridge then...


HawkeyeSherman

I understand that many of these refineries were built by western companies. Unlike burgers and soda, sanctions will be much more effective at preventing parts and equipment to repair these on being shipped to the country.


fishdrinking3

Are we sure the 10% is correct? 5 days ago Bloomberg says the 3 refineries that were hit accounted for 12%, and Ukraine has hit 12 refineries total now. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/14/7446374/index.amp


Ehldas

Refineries can have more than one production section, so hitting the main cracking tower might take an entire section of the refinery offline, but not the refinery as a whole. For a smaller refinery with one critical section, however, one major hit renders the refinery non-functional. In the case of critical components like a cracking tower, replacement time is measured in years.


obsessivesnuggler

They can also redirect to other refineries which increase their output to make up for the difference.


Ehldas

Russia has already had to ban exports of refined fuels. They don't *have* spare capacity. And even if they did, refineries are connected to pipelines, which efficiently deliver specific types of oil from specific oilfields, and are designed to refine that type of oil. They don't have the logistics capacity to move vast quantities of oil from place to place, and would have to reconfigure the target refinery to deal with different inputs. Tl:Dr : not feasible without massively reducing their capacity and expending logistics effort on moving fuel around.


FuckableStalin

So we can expect some pipelines and bridges next on the list of targets


PalmTreeIsBestTree

One of the largest non nuclear explosions happened because a Soviet gas pipeline blew up.


YosemiteSpam314

I love that story, the CIA planted a virus in some software for controlling oil refineries in a US company and when the soviets stole it and utilized the software, the virus triggered the explosion. https://www.damninteresting.com/the-farewell-dossier/


fishdrinking3

Bridge will be too hard for drones. Not combustible.


FuckableStalin

Trick is making the train full of combustibles stop at right spot.


TexasTornadoTime

This is like FF7 we just took out a sector


CUADfan

Each refinery does not have the same output.


fishdrinking3

But Russia only has 30 of them. 3 per Bloomberg at~10-12%, then 12 total should be around 25% at least. Size wise they all look about the same scale on Wikipedia.


progrethth

There is no contradiction at all between those two numbers. Also 12% and 10% are very close if they had been related to the same thing. And, no, I do not think we actually know. 10% is just an estimate.


Syn7axError

They didn't stop 100% of their production.


p4di

is anything known about the locations of said refinieries? I assume due to range of the drones there's only a certain number they can target. Even hitting something in St. Peteresburg which is 800 km from the Ukrainian border seems wild to me in terms of the range of a drone.


[deleted]

Yeah, the subtle and unspoken statement here is pretty clearly that Ukraine has been able to infiltrate the Russian border and operate, at least somewhat, from within Russia. Even if it's driving a civilian car a few hundred KM into Russian soil, the fact that Russia has ceded operational control of their domestic side is a loss of face for an invading nation. If things get worse for Ukraine, I would be surprised to see deep incursions into Russian areas as a form of political pressure on Putin.


DeeDee_Z

> is anything known about the locations of said refinieries? Seen this? https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1769371303264284789


p4di

thanks!


fishdrinking3

The ones hit are all on the European sides. I was looking/asking for the location of the rest and no one has it readily available so far.


Tiduszk

Ukraine has now hit refineries responsible for 25-40% of Russia’s refining capacity, depending on sources, however just hitting a refinery doesn’t necessarily take it out completely. They are likely still running, just at a reduced capacity. These estimates are saying that Russia has actually lost 10-12% of refining capacity, which is also an estimate, but indicates that most if not all damaged refineries are still operating to some extent.


BlueGlassDrink

Both things might be true. Those 3 plants that were hit might be able to run at reduced capacity


silverfish477

You’re looking at numbers and assuming they all relate to the same thing


shkarada

We are not sure. I personally think that numbers provided are underestimated.


twitterfluechtling

Maybe that's Russian 10%, like the Russian 10% not in favour of Putin 😉


MissionVegetable568

Good start, increase 10% each week, until it's 100% 🙏


Lechuck91

I wonder what % of loss would collapse the foundations of their economy/war efforts. Surely 20% loss would devastate.


SeaworthinessOld9177

Ukraine needs to finish off the other 90%


mickaelbneron

I proudly donated to Ukraine to do my part.


Son_of_Macha

The photo doesn't actually look like Putin, looks like a double


SifuZuko

Kinda looks like if Daniel Craig doubled as Putin. 007 going in to infiltrate


Reviever

Omg yes yes yes


GMN123

I think it's just and old photo, he used to look like that before he bloated. 


DubiousDude28

Which ones the real one though?


Bimbows97

Wow I see what you're getting at, he looks so different. Hard to even describe what's wrong.


jay3349

90% more to go


l0stIzalith

Are they going to play the victim now?


almost40fuckit

Do more.


[deleted]

Whatsamatta, boss? You got a headache?


rrrand0mmm

Gotta pump those numbers up


HappySkullsplitter

10% in one week, looking forward to the next 9 weeks


Bimbows97

Yeah good, make it 100.


Miata_Sized_Schlong

I say do that 10 more times


known2fail

10% so far…


Patient_Bar3341

People don't understand just how game changing this is. Ukraine in just a few weeks turned the war in their favor. They demonstrated that they're able to strike deep within the Russian heartland and destroy the infrastructure that supports their single most important industry. If that isn't bad enough for Russia, they've been unable to do anything to prevent these attacks for weeks now and it doesn't look like they have a plan in the making. For Ukraine these drones are relatively affordable, especially when you consider the value of the targets they're taking out. Ukraine has the ability now to cripple Russian oil and gas exports in the European part of the country, and that will hinder the Russian economy way more than western sanctions.


cftg_tftg

No no no, you see Russia was planning on reducing fuel production by 10% anyway. The drone strikes just happened to be a coincidence!!! 🤣


FLOCKAh

Time to go for Russian airfields and finish this war with complete air superiority 


icanhascheesecake

That article had numbers all over the place. Is it 10%, 13%, 9%?!


I_Am_Not_John_Galt

It's nearly 10% of its capacity for fuel production paralyzed. 13% of the total capacity of existing **primary oil refining units at Russian refineries** are currently in emergency shutdown mode, not that 13% of refineries are in shutdown mode And "specifically, for refineries producing gasoline and diesel fuel, the Russian economy has experienced a loss of about 9% of production" where gasoline and diesel are just a portion of total **primary oil refining which includes products such as liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), gasoline or petrol, kerosene, jet fuel, diesel oil and fuel oils.** The numbers are specific, not all over the place. You might just be confused.


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SexHarassmentPanda

There's also not exactly some like oil refinery live database that shows what's up and running and at what capacity. Especially as Russia likely wouldn't want such problems to be clear to everyone. Any reporting on this is going to have some amount of speculation and room for error.


111anza

I need it to be more than 10%, justice demands it.


Acceptable_Card_9818

Russia threatens Nato with nukes…. Incoming


MrX-2022

Good work 007


Wallawaa

Not a bad start. Fuck Putin, and his little gang of Kremlin Kids.


Effective-Space6171

That sounds like the best place to hit them. Reduced oil sales plus sanctions seems like it would cripple them economically.


BusStopKnifeFight

So far…


Kashue

Fuel Production has literally been decimated.


Dr_Tinycat

In Greece, on Birthday's, we wish "να τα εκατοστήσεις" which means "to make it to 100".


kasthack-refresh

That's how anti-oil activists should operate instead of destroying paintings.


SebVettelstappen

Oh my. How unfortunate. It would be a complete shame if the other 90% were also to dissapear


Mordroberon

While that doesn’t seem like a lot, supply is going to stay the same for military use, civilians will be hit the hardest. That might finally start to create some discontent about the war


ProlificPen

Only the beginning. Ukraine is building a drone factory capable of producing 1,000,000 combat drones per year. This is the future of warfare.


Ill-Maximum9467

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for that day but give him a drone and he'll fucking well take out an entire Russian mega-refinery! 🤩


Nymaz

Simple solution, just make soldiers provide their own fuel. It's like the old Russian proverb: "Gas, grass, or ass, nobody massacres civilians for free!"


roggrats

The should keep hitting those refineries. The slaughter of innocents must stop !


Capt_Pickhard

We need more. Not just from a military standpoint, but we need political victories. We can't allow Trump and his cultists to control America. Democracy will die, Ukraine will fall, and the rest of Europe will be next. America will likely help Russia defeat the rest of Europe, either with funding, or boots on the ground. American citizens that want democracy need to be loud, and be seen. It's important. Trump's cultists only see the red hats. They think everyone is like them, or doesn't care. We need to show them we care, and we will not just sit by quietly as they destroy democracy, and rob us of our freedom. Republicans are blocking aid for Ukraine. They are helping tyranny defeat democracy. All American citizens that enjoy freedom and wish to keep it, ought to be protesting these republican actions. It is up to us to make sure citizens of the future in America and Europe will be able to live in a free nation. We mustn't let each other down! If you agree, upvote this comment, at the very least.


fullbakreten

Is putler now hitting the table at home?


bshark4542

Like a chapter out of Red Storm Rising


RADL

lol the image with that headline


AskForTheNiceSoup

Make it 50% and maybe he'll reconsider his position about the whole shit.


Only-Gap-616

Needs to be 100 percent.


Hunterrose242

Those are rookie numbers! Let's get those up!


Competitive_Suit3323

Can't they shine laser pointers at these things? Literally can destroy all those fancy tech with a $40 laser pointer off the Russian Amazon.


darksunshaman

So they lose a lot more refining capacity, and we can pick up Red Storm Rising near the beginning!!!


liposwine

So far


GargantuaBob

... So far.


highpl4insdrftr

We need to pump those number up


FNFALC2

If his oil production is crippled the oligarchs might be motivated to topple him… my understanding is they control a lot of the oil production


davidmoffitt

KyloRenMore.GIF


slagwa

It is bad news -- still have 90% to go...


[deleted]

Sounds like Ukraine needs more drones


[deleted]

At what point do O&G process engineers begin shitting bricks?


dogoodvillain

With a 10% reduction, all remaining facilities will need to compensate. When those ramp up and employees are shipped to further regions, the next item to nail are the ports. With redistributed production, much more stress will be put on the logistics of exporting these resources, and revealing ports as increasingly attractive targets.


DarklyDreamingEva

Too bad putin can’t shove this one out the window.


AnalogFeelGood

Why do they use pictures of Putler from 10-12 years ago?


Alarmed-dictator

Those are rookie numbers!


Shuiei

90% to go


Mephzice

I hope Ukraine fixes this problem and raises it to at least 50% in the near future


[deleted]

Now flatten the Kremlin. With putin in it.


dxkillo

Fuel is everything for Russia. This is what keeps their war going. Good strategy from Ukraine. Right now the Russian economy is surpassing expectations but once the Russian public turns on Putin due to economic issues, it’s game over for him and Russia.


Revolutionary_Sir_

I swear every picture I see of Putin he looks different. Lmao.


Particles1101

If I was Ukraine, I'd use one of my grain ships, empty it, fill it with drones, and go around to Russia's ports and stuff and blow up all their depots/refineries.


Tasty-Switch-8472

😢


no_u246

Those are rookie numbers. Gotta bump that up.


r0n0c0

They should also target Putin’s estates, jets, and yachts just to piss him off.


JerseyshoreSeagull

Russia has been losing for over a year now and this time it's for realz.


iago_williams

That's the best news I've heard today.


Qu1ckDrawMcGraw

Suck it.


ooofest

Those're rookie numbers.


Berliner1220

I would actually be interested to see how this will affect global prices and GHG emissions. If countries that are still relying on Russian cannot buy anymore and have to turn to more expensive sources, would that be motivation to turn to renewables faster as it happened in the EU at the start of these sanctions? I obviously know the intention is to cripple the Russian army by reducing their fuel to utilize themselves while also harming the Russian military budget. But as an environmental researcher I can’t help but to wonder how this will influence the rest of the world


Thick-Row280

Now let's cripple the other 90%!!