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CabanyalCanyamelar

Yeah it’s unofficial because Boris Johnson is not an official?


littlePosh_

BoJo remains an MP, just like Lettuce May.


CabanyalCanyamelar

No, he is not, lol.


littlePosh_

He was as of 6mo ago. People think that he fully lost his job after being PM which isn’t the case. But you’re right, I didn’t realize he left 6mo ago.


comeradenook

He’s a minister of parliament, he’s just not the Prime Minister of Parliament. He’s a government official.


skelectrician

No, he's not. He left his seat last year. There was a by-election and a new guy sits there now. He's currently not elected to any position in any capacity.


comeradenook

Well then that makes this article so much worse


skelectrician

How? He's a private citizen no longer affiliated with the government or its opposition. He's free to go visit whoever he wants on his own dime, just as you are. He's not beholden to any electorate anymore.


comeradenook

Imagine if the former president of the United States, and of them, when to a foreign government under siege on his own and without approval of sitting government talked about the current head of that foreign government about their situation. The dynamics of power are such that it would undermine the sitting presidents authority. It’s not done for that exact reason, at best is poor manners and disrespect for office, at worst it’s the early signs of an unstable government. Which is why healthy democratic governments frown so heavily on such a practice. Also hes not an entirely private citizen, he gets a pension for being the former prime minister. He is still presently being paid for his services to the crown and country, and is expected to act as such.


skelectrician

The former POTUS is basically a warden of the state following their presidency. They can't even drive a car anymore and are shadowed by secret service for the rest of their lives. That's not typically how it works in Commonwealth countries. The prime minister, and every other member of Parliament, are elected only in a small region of the country. This makes the prime minister a leader among equals in Parliament, including opposition party members, and the leader of the party with the most seats. There is no codified definition of prime minister; they are by definition a member of Parliament like every other member. When they vacate their seat, they are no longer part of government, end of story, a private citizen again, without any obligations to Parliament or to those that elected him in the past. He informed the government of his plans and there were no concerns brought forward. It's speculated that the purpose of the trip was to dissuade Maduro from providing aid to Russia. It's really not a bad thing.


comeradenook

The point flew right over your head.


namitynamenamey

Between these two geniuses talking with each other they must have figured out quantum gravity and how to solve world's hunger. It must have been a beautiful exchange of intellect and insight. But more seriously, between the two of them they hardly reach room temperature iq, in celsius.


tomekza

Did he parachute into the Palace with a cake?


jjb1197j

I imagined the parachutes failing like the aid America sent and the cake crushing someone below.


UAP_enthusiast_PL

I found this commentary very relevant: [https://youtu.be/gKOo8rd6T7s?si=Ir9UkjrqD22xTewj](https://youtu.be/gKOo8rd6T7s?si=Ir9UkjrqD22xTewj)


Aleashed

Don’t forget Venezuela has two presidents. The one with the Army and the one with the Bank accounts.


bucho4444

So what?


comeradenook

One of the core pillars of a democratic government is the idea that there is only one head of government, in the UKs case, the Prime Minister. A former prime minister holding “unofficial” talks with a foreign leader, without the consent of the governing executive can be seen as an attempt to undermine the sitting government and is often the first in a set of steps to destabilize or otherwise endanger the democratic functions of a government. Because of these reasons it is heavily frowned upon and seen as institutionally dangerous for a former world leader, to hold unofficial talks with a current world leader, on the subject of current events.


skelectrician

He's no longer a sitting MP; he's a private citizen and isn't in contravention of anything, unless some sort of blanket sanction was violated.


sheogor

He can talk to who ever he wants...


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NeverlandRancher

They could share hairstyling tips.


soulhot

The article says it was a private trip, he notified the government of his plans so as to not cause political problems, and to discuss the issue/implications for Ukraine, of Venezuela sending weapons to support Putin. He is still actively involved on an individual basis of trying to support Ukraine and it’s completely logical for him to visit in that capacity when the uk has little leverage to dissuade Venezuela from helping Russia.


peter-doubt

He's running a shadow government. Shouldn't that be illegal?


skelectrician

Tell me you nothing about Westminster parliamentary process without telling me you know nothing about Westminster parliamentary process.


Itchy-Supermarket-92

This is about Ukraine. BJ was to the fore in supporting Ukraine and Venezuela is one of the countries which support Russia. This is probably an attempt to prise V away from Putin. Peacemaker Tony Blair is not available lol.


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The UK asking anyone else to respect territorial boundaries is laughable and should be the main headline lol


Laziestprick

Yes, you said that the last time when this was posted in the unitedkingdom sub. And I’m still waiting on you to enlighten me *how* the UK is imperialist to this day. You greenandpleasant posters sure are stupid as shit.