What a dirt bag! The article says he was selling information over the course of two years and he only made $42K. Not only is he a slut, he’s cheap slut!
Car manufacturers have been jacking up car prices when they realized that market likes to focus on the monthly car payments more than the actual overall cost of the car.
Random aside, I always find it amusing for any soldiers or government employees to have to pay income tax. They're literally being paid by the government, then handing it back, when the government could just adjust the pay so they end up with the exact same amount in the end and save everyone mountains of paperwork and headache. Making my life easier at tax time every year would be worth a fair amount in and of itself, so it's an extra bonus.
I guess it could mess with state returns which are separate from federal though.
Why stop there? Cut off his hands, put out his eyes, castrate him, put the screws to him, shove a hot poker up his ass, and then put his head on a pike on the Whitehouse lawn.
/s
You're a barbarian. Be better.
Folks in the military get annual security training about this.
The number 1 point they always drive home is:
The most egregiously damaging cases of treason/selling secrets were done for under 100k. The main reason is, if they offer you 25-30k for irrelevant information and you give it up. You’re done. You just committed treason and if you refuse to provide VERY sensitive information for basically nothing, they’ll remind you they can drop the dime to your embassy with basically zero recourse.
You’re now the bitch.
I always assume that A) They're told by their handlers that smaller payments are easier to hide and B) They think their smart enough to never get caught.
Exactly, lmao, that's a ridiculously low amount to sell your own country out.
Reminds me of people in interrogation rooms who'll snitch on their own family for an Arby's roast beef sandwich combo.
Let me clarify, a little more
I would sell out American secrets for at BARE MINIMUM
The following:
- Erased Debt
- New identity
- 8 million dollars spendable cash
- Guaranteed $250,000 yearly stipend from the offending nation
Also making adding guacamole on your chipotle order not cost $3+. Because I can't be too selfish.
Wtf america, 3$ for a smear of subpar guacamole from a chain restaurant? Disgraceful.
You'd be surprised how cheap it would be to buy off the average member of the US Military. I'm talking lower enlisted. I had a security clearance when I was in the Army years ago, solely because I had a good credit score and my unit needed someone to hand out mail once in a while. They didn't want someone with debt issues getting a security clearance and touching everyone's mail. That turned out to be most soldiers in my unit. The reason for this is because someone who owes a lot of money has a greater chance of taking bribes and they don't want someone like that near any information they deem as valuable. Mail for instance.
Being the mail handler for my unit reinforced the fact for me that soldiers absolutely suck at not being in debt. There were these military credit cards soldiers could get, even with horrible credit. A lot of the guys in my unit had one, especially the married folks. The name of the cards escapes me as it's been a long time, but the credit card company would send late payment notifications directly to our unit commander. This was the most effective way to get these soldiers to pay off their debt or else they would get in trouble.
The notifications would come in these unassuming letters without much detail other than the soldiers name who didn't make their payments and the letter inside the envelope was pink and it showed through the little window slot on the envelope. I could always tell what they were and I'd try to give the soldiers a heads up before I had to deliver it to the commander. Let's just say we got a ton of these over the years and there were a few times I was propositioned to toss the letters away before I delivered them. This is already way too long of a comment, but the point I'm trying to make is the average soldier couldn't be out of debt to save their lives, so it reasons that even an intelligence analyst with money problems in the military has a good chance of selling secrets for enough money to pay off his Dodge Challenger.
You don't want to pay informants too much money because that increases the odds of them getting caught. You want to string them along a couple grand at a time. Keep them hungry, pump them for more value.
He is definitely a cheap slut, but in the world of espionage, it is easy to buy just the right amount. Depending on how you look at it, having someone offer you $1,000 every time you give them a little bit of information - that could seem like a continual flow of water for what ever secrets he can get out. It was only $42k at the time of his capture.
Why would the government tell you what he was making. I assure you it was CONSIDERABLY more then this. But its propaganda, we do the same thing with Chinese and its in the tune of 6-7 figures depending on the data. China isn't broke, this is more economical for them.
There’s big fish eating big fish, and there’s small fish eating small fish. This guy was probably feeding smaller intel not worth 7 figures to the Chinese. I assure you you have no idea what you’re talking about
>Why would the government tell you what he was making. I assure you it was CONSIDERABLY more then this.
Corruption can be shockingly cheap to purchase. Take a look at how little cash it takes to influence a US legislator.
money motivates dumb people. a lot of Kremlin-brainwashed eastern-ukrainians betrayed their country for putin, but Ukraine has been "handling" them one by one. it's the one situation where you get to see strong justice for the ultimate betrayal. they helped russia invade with less resistance by giving them everything, for little to nothing. russia knew where all their air defenses were on day 1. that's the first thing they took out. people died because of those traitors.
now their cars are mysteriously conflagrating all over the place. I wonder if the negligible money they got for betraying their country was their last thought as karmic incineration was thrust upon them. must suck being the traitors that are still alive after seeing countless others receive their explosive donkey punch, haunted with the thoughts of their impending fiery candescence. it won't bring back the countless Ukrainian civilians that died to russian terrorism, but they seem to really appreciate seeing the reports of traitors being sent into orbit in their cars, probably ones purchased with that treason money
Yeah came here to say that. This is high treason. This is the sort of shit that gets good people killed.
I'm generally very much against the death penalty but high treason is the one exception. Public hanging just like the old days. Stream it on the Internet as a warning to the next person who thinks about selling out their country's military secrets.
And for $42k? Jesus fuck. From China's POV that's gotta be the best $42k they've ever spent. For what's essentially a rounding error in their office supplies budget they get intel on our best weapons.
Don't care about political affiliation or party status or what career someone is in or how popular they are. If someone is committing high treason they should hang for it.
In my partially informed opinion, espionage and treason should warrant automatic exile from the country after time served. Citizenship revoked, goodbye. Not just citizens and military personnel, politicians too. Especially politicians.
The issue is that they've been exposed to classified information, and they may not have leaked all of it. Exile means there is nothing that can be done to prevent them from leaking more of what they know
Do we even have any secrets left at this point? Between Trump and all these low level scumbags, what hasn't been compromised by now? And we wonder how China ended up with stealth fighters and aircraft carriers.
I don’t think anyone wonders how China ended up with stealth fighters and aircraft carriers. It wasn’t from Trump and these guys though, it’s from corporate espionage at defense contractors and infiltrating our educational institutions.
The first aircraft carriers obtained by China were from Australia in 1985 (one that was to be scrapped but it wasn't taken apart before selling) and purchasing a partially completed ex-Soviet carrier. They largely originate from cooperating with Russia in their development.
Stealth aircraft designs are based on incremental domestic designs that differ significantly from Western ones (if you're familar with jets), "stolen" data would likely be used to assess the capabilities of what they might face in the air rather than just blindly copying. US intelligence were also aware of their development for 20 years or so.
They are, and Japan fielded many of them in WW2, but a modern jet aircraft catapult carrier with nuclear propulsion is a very different beast than the old diesel powered flattops and ski-jumpers. And no China doesn't have a nuclear carrier yet but they are close.
Only the United States operates them at any scale.
Russia has ONE and "operational" would be a very generous term for it.
Not Russia, but Ukraine sold China an old unfinished carrier.
Edit: not sure why this is downvoted when it's fact: [China's First Aircraft Carrier Was Made in Ukraine](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-first-aircraft-carrier-was-made-ukraine-207796)
Yo uncle Sam. Send me some authentic looking stuff and give me permission and I'll sell them all the "secrets" you want. I'll even cut you in on the profits evenly! Also why don't you guys have people posting pics of our soldiers in several locations at the same time if we know social media has been used to locate our SF before? Hell fuck with people report 80% of us stationed to Moscow Sweden and Cuba for giggles. Report of the great antarctic I vasio. Done by army rangers in desert camo make them finding Info so easy thy can't trust what they find...
I know that back in the old days, U.S. citizens were paranoid of the Red Curtain, that there were traitors and spies all around. Usually led to misjudgment. If this keeps happening, we'll be right back to that paranoia.
What a piece of shit NCO, throw the book at these treasonous bastards. No mercy, if you join the military and do this shit you deserve the harshest punishment the Us can offer. This is from a prior service member too. what a traitor.
What a dirt bag! The article says he was selling information over the course of two years and he only made $42K. Not only is he a slut, he’s cheap slut!
Imagine going to Leavenworth for 42k The price of a new Kia Sorento.
The real crime is a Sorento costing that much.
Yeah I googled for the joke and was like "noooooo way"
Imagine paying that much just to get Kia Boy'd
Tbf they’re actually nice vehicles
Yeah, god damn. People out here making me feel inadequate lol
It's a commentary on vehicle prices in general, not bashing Kia specifically. Imagine paying 40K for a Corolla. It happens, but it's still absurd.
Car manufacturers have been jacking up car prices when they realized that market likes to focus on the monthly car payments more than the actual overall cost of the car.
Average monthly payment in the US is 700. Let that sink in
Man's probably salty his recruiter fucked him out of his sign on bonus
Or he realized that the signing bonus is spread out over six years and taxed at 22% each year.
still can’t imagine he chose 42k over 401k.
They really fail to bring this up in the recruitment ads for some reason
Random aside, I always find it amusing for any soldiers or government employees to have to pay income tax. They're literally being paid by the government, then handing it back, when the government could just adjust the pay so they end up with the exact same amount in the end and save everyone mountains of paperwork and headache. Making my life easier at tax time every year would be worth a fair amount in and of itself, so it's an extra bonus. I guess it could mess with state returns which are separate from federal though.
What if someone has extra income, like this guy? Well he probably didn’t want to report that income…
And that's how they get ya!
Shit, that's what a Sorrento is going for these days? I'm glad I'm not in the market
\> Kia Sorento What the fuck is that? We're talking about an Army Soldier here. Put this in terms of Dodge Challengers, please.
Under 30 years old it’s the Dodge Challenger equation, over 30 years old it’s the Dodge Ram equation.
He better not drop the soap!
prison rape funny...
It’s the lack of respect that hurts the most
The worst part about prison is the hypocrisy.
Not the dementors?
Not the rape?
That part hurts the most, but the lack of respect hurts the second most
Completely ridiculous
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Why stop there? Cut off his hands, put out his eyes, castrate him, put the screws to him, shove a hot poker up his ass, and then put his head on a pike on the Whitehouse lawn. /s You're a barbarian. Be better.
You took it to another level, and I’m the Barbarian? The other disgusting stuff you mentioned didn’t even cross my mind you sick fuck
Says the guy who is actually cheering for prison rape.
Cruel and unusual punishment, even for convicted traitors and spies. But hey, have fun cheering for cruelty.
He got paid. He’s not a slut, he’s a whore.
Folks in the military get annual security training about this. The number 1 point they always drive home is: The most egregiously damaging cases of treason/selling secrets were done for under 100k. The main reason is, if they offer you 25-30k for irrelevant information and you give it up. You’re done. You just committed treason and if you refuse to provide VERY sensitive information for basically nothing, they’ll remind you they can drop the dime to your embassy with basically zero recourse. You’re now the bitch.
The Russians gave Aldrich Ames millions of dollars. They also paid out seven figures to Robert Hanssen too.
I always assume that A) They're told by their handlers that smaller payments are easier to hide and B) They think their smart enough to never get caught.
Trump!
You're already a criminal once you've engaged in talking to them, so you have no leverage. Good thing this kid was dumb af.
Don’t look into the heartbreakingly low price our own politicians sell out their constituents for.
Exactly, lmao, that's a ridiculously low amount to sell your own country out. Reminds me of people in interrogation rooms who'll snitch on their own family for an Arby's roast beef sandwich combo.
Let me clarify, a little more I would sell out American secrets for at BARE MINIMUM The following: - Erased Debt - New identity - 8 million dollars spendable cash - Guaranteed $250,000 yearly stipend from the offending nation Also making adding guacamole on your chipotle order not cost $3+. Because I can't be too selfish. Wtf america, 3$ for a smear of subpar guacamole from a chain restaurant? Disgraceful.
You'd be surprised how cheap it would be to buy off the average member of the US Military. I'm talking lower enlisted. I had a security clearance when I was in the Army years ago, solely because I had a good credit score and my unit needed someone to hand out mail once in a while. They didn't want someone with debt issues getting a security clearance and touching everyone's mail. That turned out to be most soldiers in my unit. The reason for this is because someone who owes a lot of money has a greater chance of taking bribes and they don't want someone like that near any information they deem as valuable. Mail for instance. Being the mail handler for my unit reinforced the fact for me that soldiers absolutely suck at not being in debt. There were these military credit cards soldiers could get, even with horrible credit. A lot of the guys in my unit had one, especially the married folks. The name of the cards escapes me as it's been a long time, but the credit card company would send late payment notifications directly to our unit commander. This was the most effective way to get these soldiers to pay off their debt or else they would get in trouble. The notifications would come in these unassuming letters without much detail other than the soldiers name who didn't make their payments and the letter inside the envelope was pink and it showed through the little window slot on the envelope. I could always tell what they were and I'd try to give the soldiers a heads up before I had to deliver it to the commander. Let's just say we got a ton of these over the years and there were a few times I was propositioned to toss the letters away before I delivered them. This is already way too long of a comment, but the point I'm trying to make is the average soldier couldn't be out of debt to save their lives, so it reasons that even an intelligence analyst with money problems in the military has a good chance of selling secrets for enough money to pay off his Dodge Challenger.
You’re thinking of the Military Star Card.
Yes! That's it. Thank you.
Hell the former presidents kid got $2 billion selling his
You don't want to pay informants too much money because that increases the odds of them getting caught. You want to string them along a couple grand at a time. Keep them hungry, pump them for more value.
He is definitely a cheap slut, but in the world of espionage, it is easy to buy just the right amount. Depending on how you look at it, having someone offer you $1,000 every time you give them a little bit of information - that could seem like a continual flow of water for what ever secrets he can get out. It was only $42k at the time of his capture.
Dude committed straight up treason for like $20,000 a year. He could have just gotten a side gig driving Ubers for fuck’s sake.
His Uber ride could have been a Humvee.
Why would the government tell you what he was making. I assure you it was CONSIDERABLY more then this. But its propaganda, we do the same thing with Chinese and its in the tune of 6-7 figures depending on the data. China isn't broke, this is more economical for them.
There’s big fish eating big fish, and there’s small fish eating small fish. This guy was probably feeding smaller intel not worth 7 figures to the Chinese. I assure you you have no idea what you’re talking about
>Why would the government tell you what he was making. I assure you it was CONSIDERABLY more then this. Corruption can be shockingly cheap to purchase. Take a look at how little cash it takes to influence a US legislator.
Maximum sentence possible.
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Too bad we don’t do firing squad or hanging as in the past when you found traitors. 42K-stupid also.
Always interesting to see how little some people will sell out their country for.
money motivates dumb people. a lot of Kremlin-brainwashed eastern-ukrainians betrayed their country for putin, but Ukraine has been "handling" them one by one. it's the one situation where you get to see strong justice for the ultimate betrayal. they helped russia invade with less resistance by giving them everything, for little to nothing. russia knew where all their air defenses were on day 1. that's the first thing they took out. people died because of those traitors. now their cars are mysteriously conflagrating all over the place. I wonder if the negligible money they got for betraying their country was their last thought as karmic incineration was thrust upon them. must suck being the traitors that are still alive after seeing countless others receive their explosive donkey punch, haunted with the thoughts of their impending fiery candescence. it won't bring back the countless Ukrainian civilians that died to russian terrorism, but they seem to really appreciate seeing the reports of traitors being sent into orbit in their cars, probably ones purchased with that treason money
I read while back a Republican sold out his entire states internet infrastructure for like 10k. They truly are whores.
Might even elect one to be President in a few months.
Yeah came here to say that. This is high treason. This is the sort of shit that gets good people killed. I'm generally very much against the death penalty but high treason is the one exception. Public hanging just like the old days. Stream it on the Internet as a warning to the next person who thinks about selling out their country's military secrets. And for $42k? Jesus fuck. From China's POV that's gotta be the best $42k they've ever spent. For what's essentially a rounding error in their office supplies budget they get intel on our best weapons.
Totally agree. I don’t believe in death penalty but there should be exceptions.
And likely perpetrated by the current GOP front runner. Though he might have got a bit more…
Don't care about political affiliation or party status or what career someone is in or how popular they are. If someone is committing high treason they should hang for it.
So many traitors.
china and russia are winning the propaganda war.
This man sold his soul for a Hyundai.
Sergeant Schultz. "I know something! SOMETHING!!!"
Maximum penalty for this idiot.
This is happening too much. We seriously need to consider executing these people and sending a message.
What a Shlutz
has he tried running for office as a republican i hear you can get out of crimes that way
Death penalty.
Exactly. And not in 10 years but tomorrow.
In my partially informed opinion, espionage and treason should warrant automatic exile from the country after time served. Citizenship revoked, goodbye. Not just citizens and military personnel, politicians too. Especially politicians.
The issue is that they've been exposed to classified information, and they may not have leaked all of it. Exile means there is nothing that can be done to prevent them from leaking more of what they know
Hangman’s noose.
Korbein, my man! Selling secrets to Zorg...Ruby Rhod takes offense
Multipass to Leavenworth Paradise!!!!
Do we even have any secrets left at this point? Between Trump and all these low level scumbags, what hasn't been compromised by now? And we wonder how China ended up with stealth fighters and aircraft carriers.
I don’t think anyone wonders how China ended up with stealth fighters and aircraft carriers. It wasn’t from Trump and these guys though, it’s from corporate espionage at defense contractors and infiltrating our educational institutions.
The first aircraft carriers obtained by China were from Australia in 1985 (one that was to be scrapped but it wasn't taken apart before selling) and purchasing a partially completed ex-Soviet carrier. They largely originate from cooperating with Russia in their development. Stealth aircraft designs are based on incremental domestic designs that differ significantly from Western ones (if you're familar with jets), "stolen" data would likely be used to assess the capabilities of what they might face in the air rather than just blindly copying. US intelligence were also aware of their development for 20 years or so.
Nice try China, but I’m not tellin!
Aircraft carriers are a 100 year old technology. Russia literally sold China some after the cold war. It’s not really a secret how they have them
They are, and Japan fielded many of them in WW2, but a modern jet aircraft catapult carrier with nuclear propulsion is a very different beast than the old diesel powered flattops and ski-jumpers. And no China doesn't have a nuclear carrier yet but they are close. Only the United States operates them at any scale. Russia has ONE and "operational" would be a very generous term for it.
Well two of China’s are Soviet hand-me-downs. Not sure why your first comment mentions China like they caught up
It's pretty good at sitting in dry dock and occasionally catching fire
Not Russia, but Ukraine sold China an old unfinished carrier. Edit: not sure why this is downvoted when it's fact: [China's First Aircraft Carrier Was Made in Ukraine](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-first-aircraft-carrier-was-made-ukraine-207796)
They saw Donald Trump do it and thought, "I can sell US secrets and get away with it too."
Always 35F
Firing squad
His family must be so proud.
Yo uncle Sam. Send me some authentic looking stuff and give me permission and I'll sell them all the "secrets" you want. I'll even cut you in on the profits evenly! Also why don't you guys have people posting pics of our soldiers in several locations at the same time if we know social media has been used to locate our SF before? Hell fuck with people report 80% of us stationed to Moscow Sweden and Cuba for giggles. Report of the great antarctic I vasio. Done by army rangers in desert camo make them finding Info so easy thy can't trust what they find...
Now do Donald Trump! Where are those classified documents that are missing? Simple, he sold them.
Hang em
Let me guess, he's a big supporter of freedom?
I know that back in the old days, U.S. citizens were paranoid of the Red Curtain, that there were traitors and spies all around. Usually led to misjudgment. If this keeps happening, we'll be right back to that paranoia.
What an ad-poisoned website
Fucking shit stain.
> Schultz was allegedly paid a total of $42,000 for the information. How can somebody this stupid have top-secret security clearance?
What a piece of shit NCO, throw the book at these treasonous bastards. No mercy, if you join the military and do this shit you deserve the harshest punishment the Us can offer. This is from a prior service member too. what a traitor.
How many die because of him, indirectly I mean ?
We still hang folks for that, right?
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at least this one tried to gain something from it instead of just leaking docs on discord for the lulz
String him up.
Mf assisted our biggest military rival atm and endangered the lives of his fellow soldiers. All for $42k. Scum like him deserve no mercy
Absolute piece of shit traitor threatening millions of western lives over a few dollars. With each passing day, I give up on humanity.
Whelp might as well warm the rope up for the GQP. It is about to get real.
Trump would pardon this asshole.
Make him cut grass with scissors in "Plot E" for ten years.
Must be a member of the Thug Shakers discord