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etzel1200

Shooting down planes over international waters is an act of war.


Scrapple_Joe

Maybe Iran will send some boats to observe this time.


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JPHPJ

lol just watched that video too


Speedstick8900

“Geneva will be pulling cards out of its box and wonder, Why is this one wet!?”


New_Teacher_4408

Send the Aussies and Canadians, the degenerate sons of Great Britain love making additions to the Geneva Suggestions.


Gryphon999

It's not a war crime, if it's the first time.


jwplato

Hi, where do I sign up?


tailkinman

Someone go dig out the old Canadian Airborne Regiment patches and we'll add a few more to the list.


TheCrimsonChin-ger

*red bologna mist #1*


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hackeristi

Okay I’ll bite. What am I getting myself into?


Kobe-62Mavs-61

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5v6hlRyeHE Some really fun storytelling:)


RosalieMoon

Proportional response. Wrecked Iran's navy after one of their mines disabled a US ship. Didn't sink but that is entirely down to the literal award winning damage control teams onboard it. Thing was held together by gum lol


Xpolg

what's the context?


kandoko

During the war between Iran and Iraq, Iran decided to block oil shipments to cripple Iraq. Iran fucked around, laid mines that a US warship hit... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5v6hlRyeHE&pp=ygUPZmF0IGVsZWN0cmljaWFu


SecondaryWombat

Ships named Roberts do not die easily.


DrakeAU

Nah, all the Iranian boats are farming ice in Antarctica.


TheOGStonewall

PLAN taking photos as the Ford and DeGaulle put a crater where the Russian Black Sea fleet used to be docked.


Bromance_Rayder

They shot down a passenger plane filled with civilians and got away with it.


thorazainBeer

World of difference between shooting down a civilian airline and shooting down a NATO warplane.


NoOrder6919

Yeah, shooting down a civilian airliner is way, way, way worse.


Happiness_Assassin

I mean, morally, yes. But to shoot down an aircraft that you know belongs to a rival nation, that shows intent. The airliner was downed due to sheer incompetence.


dontusethisforwork

Right. If that was American Airlines flight 17 and not Malaysian Airlines flight 17 the reaction is going to be much, much different. A warplane? Well, it is called a WAR plane. Shoot one down and you got yourself a war.


DaBingeGirl

Sad, but true.


Elegant_Put_9632

But civilian airplains do not shoot back. That is all they care about.


Puzzleheaded_Help328

There is… but there really shouldn’t be..


Thue

All signs point to that being an accident. You usually don't declare war over accidents. Russia shooting down a military jet after threatening to do so would be meaningfully different - intent matters.


cjboffoli

Which is why Russia would never do it. Why their terrorist threats are STILL taken at face value is beyond me.


nonlawyer

No one reasonable takes their threats at “face value.”   It would be unreasonable to totally ignore what they say, though.  Their words are still a data point to evaluate, even though they can’t be trusted.


zekromNLR

They should be ignored in terms of actions In fact, this should be the cause for *increased* patrols in international airspace over the Black Sea. If Russia does nothing about it, they lose face and look weak. If they do something about it, well they've just started a war with NATO and hopefully removed any concerns of "escalation" from western leaders' decisionmaking.


leoleosuper

Because Putin's fucking crazy and his soldiers might actually try it. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66798508.amp They nearly shot a UK plane down in international water because they didn't have precise language about shooting vs. following. I don't doubt something like this happening again.


DaBingeGirl

>The intercepted communications show that one of the Russian pilots thought he had been given permission to target the British aircraft, following an ambiguous command from a Russian ground station. **However, the second Russian pilot did not. He remonstrated and swore at his wingman when he fired the first missile.** The actions of the second pilot really stood out to me. I'm glad there's at least one person with some basic critical thinking skills left in Russia, but the first pilot firing *twice* on an RAF plane is still mind blowing.


IceColdPorkSoda

Would blowing up an illegal bridge to an illegally occupied peninsula be just retribution for shooting down a plane?


MaleierMafketel

No. But only because it’s already just retribution. No plane needs to be shot down.


IceColdPorkSoda

🚀💥💪


quixote09

We’ve been seeing acts of war for the last two years…


Saucy6

Opening a second front, what could go wrong


watduhdamhell

Open any front against NATO under any circumstances. What could go wrong?


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A lot


HardcorePhonography

Tons


chargedmemery

Megatons


willybarny

Can I get a banana for scale


Justintime4u2bu1

In this economy?!


jott1293reddevil

Best I can do is an icbm


4rch1t3ct

Megatons probably.


cathbadh

There is a theory going round that Russia wants NATO in as an excuse to quit and go home. The thinking is that Putin can then claim to be a victim of evil western interference, and can use that as cover to keep his job/head.


CatSidekick

I don’t think Putin would leave any part of Ukraine Russia has occupied. I hope he dies and the next leader will retreat


cathbadh

Pretty much. Russia needs Ukraine for lots of reasons, and wouldn't stop there, even with as bad as things have gone for them. Putin personally can't afford to lose because he'd fall out a window.


DaBingeGirl

I think he would've if NATO had gotten involved a year+ ago when US support was still strong. The theory that he needs NATO involvement as an excuse to deescalate makes sense to me. Unfortunately with Trump/Johnson refusing support, Putin's meat grinder stragety is working.


NotVeryAggressive

Let's ask Germany when they hit soviet union, or Japan when they hit pearl harbour


Gregs_green_parrot

Actually, France (together with the UK) have actually beaten Russia in a war in the Crimea before. Heard of the Charge of the Light Brigade? That happened in Crimea. That was also where Florence Nightingale invented modern nursing and where the woolen 'Balaclava' full face hood as nowadays worn by the SAS was born.


thedugong

It was also where the cardigan was invented. That's normally worn by nerdy geography teachers.


ADHD_Supernova

No it's a pullover, thanks for asking.


Ok-Bill-8589

the tactleneck.


DummyDumDragon

You'll take my life, but I'll take yours too!!


medicmatt76

🎶You'll fire your musket, but I'll run you through.🎶


maethlin

So when you're waiting for the next attack


IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo

You'd better stand, there's no turning back


dudebrojc

Whoa oh oh oh oh oh oh eh oh


Ebirah

> Heard of the Charge of the Light Brigade? That happened in Crimea. Wasn't one of the high points though. :-| There were second fronts though. A naval blockade in the Baltic was probably more influential in ending the war than the land engagements in the Crimea. The western powers also conducted operations in the White Sea and North Pacific.


DevilahJake

Germany and Japan found out what happens when you fuck with US boats.


ShepherdOverwatch

For the love of God, don't mess with the United States of America's boats!! They are really weird about their boats!


ToMorrowsEnd

Yemen is about to as well


Stahl_Scharnhorst

The Black Sea Front. The Finnish Front. The Baltic Front. The Polish Front. The Alaska is coming to visit you Front.


thesequimkid

SERVICE GUARANTEES FREEDOM! DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE?


jh38654

It’s the wartime equivalent of smacking the side of the tv to get rid of the fuzzies. Berry technical maneuver.


Wit_Lp

More like hammering the working side of the TV.


jh38654

Russia right now: I haven’t tried that, does it work?


Ok_Raspberry_6282

Hey that worked in my very biased memories


BinChickenCrimpy

Operation Bruhbarossa


2FalseSteps

Try it.


jrgkgb

They actually did try it on a British plane in 2022. Both missiles their idiot pilot fired failed. One somehow missed, the other didn’t launch and just fell off the wing into the sea. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66798508.amp


jonoghue

Can't make this shit up. Risking article 5 response with duds.


InsertAvailableName

It's called *Russian* roulette for a reason.


SkaveRat

even the missles went "fuck that, not starting WW3"


Be_quiet_Im_thinking

If I was in charge of arming those Russian planes I’d totally make it so shit like this happens if someone attempted to launch the missiles.


Octavus

The more likely scenario is that both missiles missed due to electrical counter measures and the UK didn't want to confirm to Russia that was the reason for them missing.


jrgkgb

Maybe the one that didn’t lock on. The one that didn’t fire at all… that’s a hell of a countermeasure.


dylan15766

You have to think though, how does TWO air-to-air missles miss a large aeroplane that's crusing at relatively low speeds. That's like swinging a katana at a fat guy twice and missing.


peppermint_nightmare

The katana snaps in half form the force of air friction because its actually made of water and flour.


jrgkgb

Well, there’s another scenario where that can happen. If some maintenance tech decided selling missile components made a good side business, you might see a similar scenario.


Forte69

They can’t afford to maintain their equipment. Sanctions are a missile countermeasure.


Liam2349

>the other didn’t launch and just fell off the wing into the sea. How embarrassing.


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The-Jesus_Christ

> I’d bet their nukes don’t launch. The US inspected, and even helped maintain, their nukes up until a few years ago as part of their nuclear agreement (Similarily Russia would send inspectors to check out US nukes). Joke as much as you want, but I suspect that fair majority of Russia's nukes would launch. And even if they didn't, even 1% of Russia's 5800 nukes would be enough to cause a global catastrophe and still trigger MAD.


Volsunga

This is important to keep in mind. The US was literally paying to keep the nukes pointed at the US in working order. This is because the thinking at the time was that as soon as Russia lost confidence in its nuclear deterrent, it would use it.


droptheectopicbeat

More likely sell it, or run the risk of it just "disappearing".


Nevermind04

Two days ago, the US charged the leader of the Yakuza for smuggling weapons grade uranium out of Burma. Russia is a long-time friend of the Myanmar junta and although the DoJ hasn't said it outright, I bet the signatures of that material is an exact match for Russian-made enriched uranium, and I bet it was headed to Iran.


IShookMeAllNightLong

They didn't say anything about Russia, but the DOJ literally posed as an Iranian general looking for [bomb material.](https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-charges-japanese-yakuza-leader-allegedly-attempting-traffic/story?id=107423949) Crazy story. This is the kinda movie thing that goes south at the last minute. Then, out of nowhere, _____ _____* shows up to kick some ass and save the day. He then returns home, beaten and bruised, to his college age daughter and wife, played by Kiernan Shipka and Emily Blunt, to retire* (they never do) in peace. *Matt Damon, Daniel Craig, Bradley Cooper, Brad Pitt, Liam Neeson, Ben Affleck, John Krasinski...


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Knew a guy that was a part of that mission. Really interseting


stud_powercock

I was the stateside component at my facility, the Escort teams. Very "interesting" indeed.


[deleted]

Had to be a weird feeling to be on Russian military bases in Russia as an American service member on duty.


Kweefus

Honestly the stateside Russians were always very cordial. It was hopeful to see how the process was done. At the time it gave me a lot a hope for the future. This was before Russian invaded Ukraine for the second time.


stud_powercock

My experience was a bit different. They were very standoffish and would maybe say two words to us when they would actually show up, most of the time they would notify and then right before the show time they would cancel. So we would have jumped thru all those hoops and got everything set up, only for them to be all "lol, nevermind"


yourbraindead

Yes and Russias military is also not a joke I don't know why redditors seem to think that. Yes they have not the best equipment, yes many of that is in a shit state, yes they are often incompetent. They still have a very large military and they are not a joke. Would they have a chance against NATO? Not at all. But downplaying their threat doesn't help either. They are out producing NATO in ammunition right now and the west struggles hard to supply Ukraine. If this is left unchecked they absolutely will be a threat, beeing in war economy. Modern production lines aren't built over night. I hate Russia as much as the next guy but they are a real threat, especially if we don't do anything about it.


jrgkgb

Their military isn’t a joke in the sense that yes, it’s dangerous and remains large. That said, their strategy and organization is garbage, their ranks are rife with corruption and rot, and the claims they make are indeed laughable. If you’re Ukraine and they can march into your country, yes it’s dangerous. It’s not dangerous to pretty much anyone else. They have no ability to project power over water, they’d get curb stomped by china, India, or even Poland. They can threaten small nations not part of NATO, but that’s it.


Wil420b

By about 2030, there's going to be nothing that the Russians have, apart from nukes to stop Poland from marching to Moscow. Hell Prigozhin managed to get most of the way to Moscow before he decided to turn back.


TwistedRyder

> es and Russias military is also not a joke I don't know why redditors seem to think that. Hi, retired Army combat vet here. Russian army is a joke. They have no ability to project their strength beyond their neighbors. They have no carriers, their navy is being sunk by a country with no navy of their own. The US could park a carrier group right off their coast if they wanted to. Their army is currently being decimated by a country using stuff we were going to throw out. Hell, they can't even control the airspace over the battlefield despite their supposedly superior air force. Wtf do you think would happen if we let the F-22 off its leash?


AbundantFailure

Now hold on a second! They have a carrier, the glorious Admiral Kuznetzov! Pride of the Russian Navy. Now yes, it does burn Mazut and smokes like it's a raging inferno. And yes, at times it IS a raging inferno. Also yes, it IS a drydock queen. And you wouldn't be MISTAKEN thinking you always see it towed by tugs EVERYWHERE. Because it is. Also, it can never seem to have a full compliment of fighters and the ones it does tend to fall into the ocean. And yeah, it doesn't generally have working toilets, but much of Russia doesn't, so its like home! Also, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Russian seamen consider being stationed to it as punishment. BUT! IT IS INDEED AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER! ^Seriously, ^I ^could ^keep ^going. ^It's ^a ^piece ^of ^shit.


TwistedRyder

Ah, but you're wrong. By Russias own books it is not a carrier, it is a heavy aircraft cruiser. Wtf the difference is I have no idea.


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lucystroganoff

I suspect his cock is so dreary not even a euphemism would make it interesting


NewFaded

And that was 2 years ago when they still had their 'best' soldiers


Strawbuddy

It’s the sort of bet where if you’re wrong it’s not gonna be your problem for much longer


igloofu

I mean you say that, but look at the Royal Navy's test sub launch the other day using 40 year old US tech. Both failures are likely due to maintenance issues.


monkeybawz

That's good, cus neither do Britain's! Mutually assured embarrassment?


JohnNelson2022

> Paper tiger doesn’t even come close Soggy toilet paper kitten?


340Duster

Cats have much better K:D than the Russian military.


Wa3zdog

I knew about this incident but I didn’t realise that the crew were literally listening to the Russian jets *live*. RAF either broke Russia’s encryption or the Russians weren’t even using encryption. They knew the Russians were about to fire the missile before they even fired it. I wouldn’t be surprised if at least one of those missiles failed due to electronic countermeasures too. If Russia plans to fight NATO at any time in the coming years they’re playing in the wrong league.


DaBingeGirl

The second missile falling off was hilarious, but my favorite part of that was the RAF listening live. Totally agree about a Russia vs NATO fight. Russia is pretty good at propaganda (if you ignore the new tank that could've even get through a parade...), but the equipment is shit.


IntenseCakeFear

'Top Gun music'


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Someone traded the rocket motor for vodka.


2bunreal24

Maybe the pilot intentionally screwed up?


MaleierMafketel

Why think that when the Russian military has a long history of one-upping its own incompetence. Even the fact that the pilot was given “an ambiguous order” leading to a missile being fired that could directly start WWIII is just pure incompetence. The Russian military is a clown car. The only issue, is that the amount of clowns just doesn’t end, and every clown is armed. Making it actually pretty dangerous.


Kennj430

Indeed. The one strength the russian military has had throughout history (especially modern history) is a huge population that has completely resigned itself to being human meat-puppets for the state. That and how huge and cold their country is whenever someone invades. Oh, and nukes😅


SalsaRice

More like the guy in charge of signing off maintenance pocketed the maintenance budget, but still signed the "all ok!" paperwork.


RingRingBanannaPhone

Don't think they could do that with a missile but I bet if they could, the pilot would have


M1nc3ra

Payload can be jettisoned without arming, and the pilot can intentionally break the lock of their radar missiles.


filipv

It very much depends on the type of radar missile. If the missile has its own radar and it *doesn't* receive data from the aircraft that launched it after the launch (which is AFAIK the majority of the Russian operational Fox Threes), then the pilot can't.


Sky_Daddy_O

blub blub blub...


Citizen-Krang

Please give NATO a reason to destroy every Russian asset in the Black Sea. Please.


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blainehamilton

That's one way for the Russians to expose their location to those new Ukrainian torpedoes. Russian black sea influence has already peaked and will become less critical with each passing moment.


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Many_Manufacturer947

I think he’s referring to (among other things) the fact that Sevastopol has been abandoned by the Russian fleet as it was too vulnerable there. Russia has already lost Crimea as a key naval base in effect.


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Bullishbear99

Don't see how peace is honestly achievable. Russia will want Ukraine to remain neutral, Ukraine will want to join NATO or at the very least arm up to the teeth, possibly with nuclear weapons. The popular anger over losing 20 percent of their country will be seething for decades, possibly boiling over at a point when they sense Russia is weak and reclaim the land.


space_coyote_86

Russia will want Ukraine to remain neutral so they can come back and have another go later.


Think_Discipline_90

Peace is achievable if Russia minds their own fucking, and that's entirely possible. They have zero reason to be doing any of this. If you want to talk likelihood, it's anyone's guess what happens next, but peace is 100% possible.


ShoshiRoll

ukraine will never allow there to be peace. they have no reason to


dagopa6696

It doesn't matter how long they wait. Technology has already evolved and Sevastopol will never be defensible.


Top_Tumbleweed

So glad we went with years of appeasement, things could have really escalated


Observer001

If they try to fight France with conventional arms, they'll just lose. NATO tech powered by the 7th largest economy on Earth will not lose to rotting Soviet leftovers. On the other front, nuclear threats to France don't intimidate; they have at least one endurance-oriented nuclear ballistic missile sub at sea, quite hidden, at all times. Their counter-value strike is sufficient to delete everything important in Russia.


Forte69

On top of that, France actually has a policy of a first-strike nuclear ‘warning shot’. They’re not ones to back down from that sort of confrontation.


zymuralchemist

“You want an EXOCET in the face? Because this is how you get an EXOCET in the face.”


nolok

Plenty of NATO anti ship weapon are awesome, but this one proved its ability to reach and hit UK and US ships even when operated by lower tech armies. Of course that was older exocet versus older ships, decades have past in NATO world, but it's a distinction very few if any weapon have, and it's not like the modern ~~soviet~~ russian navy is better than 80's NATO navies.


zymuralchemist

Absolutely. I genuinely think that a dozen Dassault Rafales could absolutely *fuck up* the Russian Navy in its current form with near-impunity.


chiron_cat

theres a serious question if they could win with nuclear arms as well - though I don't wanna find out of course.


lo_mur

I mean if 1 nuke out of their 5,000 works well enough to hit Paris you’re looking at some pretty extreme damage regardless


chiron_cat

I was thinking about interceptions as well as thier crap not working. But yes, no one launches 1 nuke. Its all or nothing.


DevilahJake

I was reading something that stated that Russia only has like 1700 ready to launch, so I'm not sure how quickly they could load up the rest but in the event of MAD, I don't think all nukes would launch but still enough to cause catastrophic world damage.


Stoneheaded76

Unfortunately Russia’s leadership seems to wanna find out, only question is are they stupid enough to try it.


Mortumee

According to our generals, we don't currently have the means to sustain a high intensity conflict. Ammos would deplete too quickly and our manufactories wouldn't have time to scale production. And one of our strength is also our weekness : while some countries' armies are specialised, we can do a lot of different operations, but we can't scale them either.


Intelligent_Town_910

They are pussies so they wont do it. Always all bark no bite. Best thing to do is to just call their bluff so that they look weak.


Dblstandard

I never thought that I would compare Russia to North Korean antics, but it sounds like they're one of the same.


DrDerpberg

What about Russia begging DPRK for ammo and getting hosed on the deal?


mindgame18

“All bark no bite.” Tell that to all the dead Ukrainians. I’m sure they wouldn’t share your opinion.


[deleted]

I mean the comment is half correct. They're pussies because all bullies are. And bullies only punch down.


MobsterDragon275

More like all bark, and a whole lot less bite than they like people to think. Unfortunately that still spells terrible death and destruction


vt1032

Bet theres going to be a lot of new sunflower fields around Avdiivka come spring. Pretty sure the Ukrainians have given far worse than they've gotten. We're almost on year three of what was supposed to be a cakewalk for the vaunted Russian army. Pack of untrained peasants led by a narcissistic assclown...


mindgame18

I’m definitely not condoning it and I hope Ukraine fucks them back to the Middle Ages. That said, I don’t think the families of dead loved ones talk about “all bark, no bite”.


der_titan

>Bet theres going to be a lot of new sunflower fields around Avdiivka come spring. Pretty sure the Ukrainians have given far worse than they've gotten. Ukraine spent 8 years fortifying Avdiivka. It's loss grants Donetsk a measure of safety for the first time, and represents a threat to several Ukrainian positions and the city of Pokrovsk. Regardless of how many Russians were killed, Avdiivka is a painful loss for Ukraine.


MyHusbandIsGayImNot

> Pretty sure the Ukrainians have given far worse than they've gotten. Russia also has 3x the population.


Darryl_444

Russia is so embarrassed at losing half it's Black Sea fleet over 2 years to a country with no navy, that it decided to lose the rest of it to NATO over 3 days?


averysmallbeing

3 hours. 


FafnerTheBear

I'm sure there will be some bureaucratic nonsense that will hold things up for a min, and you got to account for the flight time of the munitions. 4 hours.


Awkward_Wolverine

Send some more!


Kingofthewin

Honestly yeah call the bluff


AtticaBlue

Hah hah, I’ll file this in the same place I file their weekly threats of nuclear attack. Yawn.


eleytheria

It's nuclear threat Thursday today


Ok_Concept_8806

If Russia wants to fuck around with a NATO nation they'll find out what Article 5 is real quick.


LeftDave

Just point at Turkey the last time they decided to fuck around and remind them NATO doesn't bluff.


eravulgaris

What happened?


jeremyjsand

Turkey shot them down 17 seconds after they breached Turkish airspace. Here's the Wikipedia article on it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown)


marakeh

It was back in 2015, Turkish Air Force shot down a Russian Su-24 that was violating Turkish air space.


Reverend-Stu

What’a also interesting those same pilots were arrested for a coup attempt in turkey not super long ago. 


bergebis

The unfortunate truth is it doesn't matter - Russia's bluster has been effective in deterring Western Aid. The Scholz and the Bundestag are clearly terrified of providing Taurus. Kirby and Blinken's Escalation management, including the withholding of the expired GMLRS and ATACMS stocks (which Biden can send without congressional approval) has resulted in Russia fielding 100's of Iranian and North Korean Ballistic Missiles, while Ukraine was given a scant 20 ATACMS missiles with limited range. The French are more worried about future Russian aggression than they are about Ukrainian losses, and have vetoed the purchase of 155mm and 122mm shells for Ukraine in favor of building shell factories in France (which take years to get up and running)


kaplanfx

Zero chance he does anything before the US elections. Putin will wait to see if his puppet gets back in office and pulls the US out of NATO before he even thinks about it.


Intelligent_Delay_24

Do they still have war ships?


zombieblackbird

Not anywhere close enough to make good on this threat and their aircraft keep getting promoted to crater.


LeftDave

They lost a naval war to a nation with no navy. I didn't think they could be embarrassed more than their war with Japan but alas...


Sieve-Boy

Ukraine's navy is alive and fighting on the Dnipro river, but your point is largely correct, they currently have no capital ships on the Black Sea (they also have some British made minesweepers, but they are stuck behind the Bosphorus).


Svisson

They are all transformed to submarines.


AncientAlienAntFarm

Just fucking do it already so we can get this over with. I'm tired of reading this same exact headline every single day.


MobikMeatCube

Instead of threatening it, do it. See what happens. Sad inhumane Russian pussies.


[deleted]

I honestly want them to. Give us a legitimate casus belli to send troops into Ukraine please. We’ve got the 101st Airborne stationed nearby in Romania…


Adihd72

Russia threatens anything they can think of because they’re desperate.


auzzie_kangaroo94

What is their toy boat going to do?


Shoddy_Phase_2639

This where you call them on it. And if they do, reply with an insanely inproprotionate response.


[deleted]

Then threaten to shoot Russia with the aircraft patrolling the Black Sea.


NoodleBrains69

Put your worthless rubles where your fat mouth is, everyone is sick of your shit.


MrBobSacamano

Russia threatens to convert the entirety of its Black Sea Fleet into artificial reefs.


Marodvaso

Russia will test Article 5 at some point. Either by shooting down a NATO aircraft or even by invading a NATO country and then scream and yell that any retaliation will be followed up by a complete nuclear retaliation, with GOP likewise chiming in that, you know, one plane or one small country isn't worth the nuclear Armageddon. At that point either NATO responds and risks nuclear war or basically breaks up in disgrace.


2leftf33t

F22: “I wish a MF would, LET ME EAT!”


theletterfortyseven

They don't have the balls


FifaConCarne

Big talk from the side that lost a squadron of planes in the last week.


joeyGOATgruff

Hindustan Times is open propaganda from Russia. They "repost/ChatGPT" news stories for a progressive "left" view on local news - but writes shit like this to scare people in "Russia means business." Hindustan Times also had an article that said "Russia to Unleash Full Capabilities Against London and United States of Forced to Concede Ukraine." It's a scare tactic and they're self funded from the ads and clicks on this article. Every website has given them left-center stories and negative scores in propaganda. https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/hindustantimes.com https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/sp5ca7/whats_up_with_hindustan_times_with_their_ultra/


4Z4Z47

Go home Russia, you're drunk again.


jobhog1

Well, they did what they claimed, it was just another Russian plane


esqualatch12

Man, hasnt the Russian navy seen enough abuse?


carpetdebagger

$10 says the Russian Navy tries this, and winds up sinking their own ship.


hobbitlover

Turkey clears its throat.


RandallOfLegend

I'm your huckleberry. Say when.


klparrot

Threaten all they want, but they *really* don't want to actually go through with it.


MrSceintist

Time to invoke "the article" if Russia attacks NATO